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Entrevista a Javier JordáN De UrríEs, Autor Del ArtíCulo "Un Goya ExóTico: La Osa Hormiguera De Su Majestad" Donde Da a Conocer

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Continuando con la información sobre el artículo Un Goya exótico: La osa hormiguera de Su Majestad que da a conocer un nuevo cuadro de Goya, os ofrecemos a continuación una entrevista a su autor Javier Jordán de Urríes que muy amablemente ha atendido


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Anteater Ants (122)
Thursday August 28, 2014, 4:19 am
I'm so glad to hear of one of my species having been painted by Goya!

Animae C (507)
Thursday August 28, 2014, 4:27 am

Interview with Javier Jordán de Urríes, author of "An exotic Goya: The ant-bear Her Majesty" which introduces a new painting by Goya
When known the existence of the painting?
It about two years ago, something like that, when I read in the magazine Asclepius an article about this curious portrait written by Ana Deck , scientific head of the National Museum of Natural Sciences, where is the picture. Later a detail of the painting illustrated the cover of a number of Goya , as you know.

The table presents an unusual item in the catalog of Goya. What prompted the creation of a painting like this?
Goya did not paint the picture on its own initiative. It is commissioned by Carlos III , when the arrival of the animal to Madrid, from Buenos Aires . It was the first live specimen of giant anteater was seen in Spain, and the king wanted his portrait. Mengs , as first court painter, moved the work to the Aragonese, who apparently was available at that time.

Could you tell us about the personal and professional status of the artist at the time he painted The hormiguera bear Her Majesty ?
Goya had come to Madrid el10 January 1775 to complete the series of cartoons for tapestries destined for the dining room of the Prince of Asturias in the Royal Palace of San Lorenzo de El Escorial , who had begun his brother Ramón Bayeu . When the series ends in late October of that year, his relationship with the Royal Tapestry Factory is interrupted and is likely to pass to collaborate with Mengs's fresco in the dome of the hall where the king ate in public, call Salette Gasparini , the Royal Palace of Madrid .

How does the suspicion that preserved in the National Museum of Natural Sciences box was the work of the Aragonese painter emerged?
At first the picture interested me because of their links to Mengs and I found striking, and even funny, see the "philosopher painter" mixed in such a case, the portrait of a giant ant-bear nothing less. In the payment order, he already knew from the personal file of Mengs in the Archivo General de Palacio , is said to have been painted under his direction, but the document does not specify the name of the author of the painting. When you return to it later, put in an inquiry into Mengs and his disciples, I stopped noticing the ant-bear and attended the landscape. At that time I recognized the style of Goya, though with a much more careful than in the lead technique. Seeing the painting in the museum it was clear. Anyway Article I review of other painters who might have been elected by Mengs, which barely exceed the half dozen known landscapes and have nothing to do with that of the hormiguera bear . Besides the quality of the paint was not available to artists like Ramón Bayeu, José del Castillo and Gregorio Ferro.

What aspects of the canvas led him to confirm the authorship of Goya?
As I say, especially the landscape, but also the representation of the animal; eg the brush strokes of the bristles are quite similar to those of the cardboard collar dog Hunting with claim . But most obvious was certainly the landscape, the general approach, its color, cloudscape, the succession of hills background, trees, soil with faceted stones, square architecture, identical to others included in their cards ... In Finally, the sum of all these things evidence that the painting is Goya , in my view.

Where does this new box in the production of the artist?
Comes to partially cover the gap of one year between the first two series of cartoons for tapestries, Eaters of the Princes of Asturias in San Lorenzo de El Escorial and El Pardo. It also helps you understand your relationship with Mengs , and in the article, as I said, the possibility that portrait before hormiguera osa attend teacher's assistant in the cool poses Apotheosis of Trajan , as we documented occurred with Ramon bayeu. Interestingly the report Mengs of June 18, 1776, after the filing of a petition requesting the appointment of Goya, painter of the king with salary, First Painter to Goya indicates that "has also worked for the Royal Tapestry Factory" , which suggests that this work had been omitted or perhaps merit and asserted another, perhaps their collaboration in the cool of Mengs. In the so-called Italian Notebook , Goya wrote a letter to Mengs in expressing his desire to be with Rome. In the end he did not return to Italy, perhaps for family reasons, his wife was in a state, or because the teacher did not want to support your application. If it was the latter, perhaps the real reason you have to look at the need painters for the Royal Tapestry Factory, lack that Mengs evidenced by a letter of 13 July of the same year, roughly coincident with the letter of Goya . Rome to be one of those cartoonists painters did not seem appropriate.

What impact expected to have this new power to Goya?
I dunno. Perhaps there are those who are skeptical show, and I will understand. But knowing the work of the disciples of Mengs attribution was clear, although research has been pending for a document that the rematase, but could not be. Anyway it's not that one day disposable paper appears to confirm the award, although the main document, the box is there .

The magazine Goya is available in the museum shop and via phone 91 561 60 84 Ext. 204 and email


Past Member (0)
Thursday August 28, 2014, 9:17 am
Brilliant work Javier! Thx Teresa

Aaron Bouchard (158)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 12:20 pm
noted thanks

Nelson Baker (0)
Saturday August 30, 2014, 3:28 pm
Noted. Thank you for the article.

Ruth C (87)
Sunday August 31, 2014, 6:27 am

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Wednesday September 3, 2014, 9:59 pm
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