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Open Thread - 7/17/2017

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread, video )

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown). If you would like me to send you cards with links to my articles, add me as a friend.


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Joanne Dixon (38)
Monday July 17, 2017, 1:43 pm
3:52 I have seen scarier dragons.

Hope everything goes perfectly.

Now here's a headline you don't see every day: Three Out of Four Democrats Would Give Up Drinking for Life in Return for Trump's Impeachment, Poll Finds

YT/TC - Well, great minds do that, don't they? This is a super-important issue.

DKos - Mark Sumner is very sound, always. This is no exception.

NYT - No kidding. I was reading this morning that now Mitch wants to wait for a vote until McCain is back, but McCain just got notified his recovery (no work) period will be longer than they originally thought, but more than enough to make trouble for McConnell. I guess we need to wait and see (and of course can also resist in the interim).

Cartoon - What God-awful flavors, for tea or anything else!


Freya H (358)
Monday July 17, 2017, 1:47 pm
What Mark Sumner wrote is terrifyingly true. If, before the Nazis took over Germany (and even afterwards), you asked average Germans if they would participate in rounding up and exterminating Jews and other "untermenschen," a lot of them would say "Nein!" And yet many of those people did aid and abet the Holocaust. Never, EVER think that something so horrible could not happen here.

Christeen A (342)
Monday July 17, 2017, 1:47 pm
Thinking of you and hoping the surgery goes well.

David C (108)
Monday July 17, 2017, 2:17 pm
thanks, hope all goes well, very slow puzzle time as normal

Pat B (356)
Monday July 17, 2017, 2:39 pm
YT: Yea, this is a good video, and makes his point very clearly.

DK: Excellent post. Will be passing this one on too.

NYT: Absolutely, it sure is! Those lies they are telling us, is going to literally nail US!

Cartoon: Bleck!!!

Positive and good thoughts to you for tomorrow, hope all goes well for you. Take care, get some rest, and Thanks, Tom.

Kathleen M (211)
Monday July 17, 2017, 3:13 pm
Excellent post! Thx for sharing TC.

Ted W (127)
Monday July 17, 2017, 3:34 pm
Noted, forwarded and shared ultra-liberally across four networks!!!! RESIST!!! Thanks for yet another fine post, TomCat!!

JL A (281)
Monday July 17, 2017, 3:45 pm
May all go well.
You can fool all of the al
Insurers are blasting Cruz's amendment as totally unworkable. McCain's surgery was more serious than it first seemed apparently making a return by him in a week or two less likely.

Animae C (507)
Monday July 17, 2017, 4:05 pm

Winn A (179)
Monday July 17, 2017, 5:43 pm

Pat B (356)
Monday July 17, 2017, 5:59 pm
This Just IN:
I hope this is true. McConnell doesn't have the support as two more senators defect.

Senate Republicans No longer have the votes needed to Pass the ObamaCare repeal bill !!

pam w (139)
Monday July 17, 2017, 7:36 pm
My CNN feed says this is true!

Glennis W (395)
Monday July 17, 2017, 9:36 pm
Great message All the best with operation Take care and rest well Thank you for caring and sharing

Glennis W (395)
Monday July 17, 2017, 9:36 pm

Dawnie W (250)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 12:22 am
💙💜Noted...Thanks for the interesting message. Hope all is well with you Tom, take good care and stay cool and calm. Thank you for the jigsaw puzzle.

💙💜Thank you...TomCat.💙💜

😉💜ღ 💙Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ😺💜L💙ve, Hugs and Peace go with you all💜😺Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ღ💙😉

Lynn S (235)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 1:48 am
Puzzle — 3:27 There’s nothing to eat there but at least you will have plenty of water to drink.

YouTube — There is no other acceptable status for the net — neutral as in net neutrality.  

Daily Kos — A long but excellent piece.  I had a giggle at this part:

“… Trump stated that the wall was still coming, that Mexico was still paying, and that there was a good chance the wall would be “solar.” Because no one has pointed out to Trump that you don’t mount solar panels on walls.”

Drumpf saying it might be solar powered?  That’s rich coming from him.  I would have thought that the Drumpfian climate change deniers would opt for natural gas or oil, you know those fossil fuels.

NY Times — Good article by Krugman.

“But the mere possibility that this much cruelty, wrapped in this much fraudulence, might pass is a horrifying indictment of his [McTurtle’s] party.”

With anything Republican’s don’t agree, Drumpf has taught them well . . . it is fake news.  The only things fake are the Republican talking points on their healthcare bill.  Let’s hope that more Republican senators feel the heat from their constituents and choose not to support the Republican Deathcare bill.

Cartoon — Those brews will melt a teapot!  Pure acid!

Resist and Persist!!!

Don’t give the bastards an inch!

I know you won’t see this before you go, but  know that I’m thinking about you as you have the eye operation.  I am very glad that Wendy is going with you.  Damn, she is one GOOD woman! . . . a real keeper!!!

Jim Ven (0)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 2:30 am
thank you.

Jim Ven (0)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 2:36 am
thanks for sharing.

Jerome S (0)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 3:18 am

Jerome S (0)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 3:18 am

Lona G (67)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 4:10 am
TCC: Well stated, Liberal Red Neck, and in a way that will make many realize 😇 what net neutrality means for them and what they’re about to loose as Republicans again go for the money and do their masters bid.

DK: Many here have something in common with Sumner and even I, not privy to those strong American values and emotions, thought for a little while that those who did have these feelings would never allow the country to sink so low. But having seen from a less emotional distance what Drumpf got away with during his campaign and the fervor of his followers, I was down to hope only by the time of the election, remembering my unbelief when Dubya was re-elected. And nothing that Drumpf and his henchmen now do really surprises me, but the continuing support from the Republicans does. It is the Republican agenda he helps to realize that keeps him in power and that agenda turns out so much more evil and depraved of any humanity than I realized then.

NYT: Republicans ar back to trying to feed people the same lies as when they first tried to repeal Obamacare and have added some new ones to give some credit to Trumpcare, a task they find immeasurably more difficult. They now realize that it’s so much easier to make up horrible bad stuff than it is to think up some positive lies (yes, they now why this is a contradiction in terms 🙄), so McConnell and his minions now see themselves forced to keep the C.B.O. as far away from their new plans as possible and badmouthing one of the few independent watchdogs left. I bet the C.B.O. is next in line to see mass cuts and redundancies and to being hollowed out to the point of irrelevancy.

Cartoon: Yes, InsaniTEA is still only available in almond flavor.

The best of luck today (it’s Tuesday here already), TomCat. I’m sure you’ll be absolutely fine, with some of your sight restored soon. And there’s little chance of additional mayhem around the appointments now Wendy is taking you. Tell that gem “thanks” from all of us, I’m sure.

Arielle S (313)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 6:06 am
And now we know that two Republicans have said they won't vote for the bill - bet more to follow now that at last someone stood up. Of course, trump said if the bill didn't pass, he would be "very, very angry"... awwww

Danuta W (1251)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 7:58 am

Ed Site Issues V (198)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 8:02 am
Noted, Thanks

Mitchell D (86)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 8:09 am
YT/TC: Resist!
DK: Sadly, we have learned, ironically thanks to Rumpy, just how sick our country’s vast underbelly is! Sadly, on some level, the political process has left out those folks, and, feeling helpless, it is easy for them to maintain that the “other” is at fault!!!
NYT: As of this morning the NYT is announcing “2 MORE DEFECTIONS LEAD TO COLLAPSE OF HEALTH EFFORT!”
The exclamation point is my offering!!!!!!!!! (Have some more)
GOPig lying, spinning, is what they do!

Barb SiteIssues V (202)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 10:35 am
Noted. Thank you

TomCat S (127)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 12:10 pm
Thanks. Hugs!

Sheila D (28)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 3:58 pm
3:19. We will continue to fight for net neutrality, no matter what.
The Dark Side hasn't taken over the entire country, so we will continue to REISIT!
Thanks for the post, TomCat. Hope all is going well.

Janet B (0)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 7:31 pm

Colleen L (3)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 7:55 pm
Thanks TomCat

Katie & Bill D (107)
Tuesday July 18, 2017, 8:07 pm
NOW WE SEE THERE WAS 8 PEOPLE in Little Donnie's meeting!
More are added all the time well how could it have been that Nothing was there??
The Health Bill was Killed Thanks to everyone who Helped KILL IT!!!
The Repubs and Trumpy STILL OWN IT LIKE IT OR NOT!
Trumpy had another 1 hr long meeting with Trumpy at the G-20
Sneaky Sneaky!
Thank you TomCat

TomCat S (127)
Wednesday July 19, 2017, 12:47 pm

Nita L (126)
Thursday July 20, 2017, 11:04 pm
Signed and shared net neutrality petition. Thank you TomCat.

Margie FOURIE (148)
Thursday August 3, 2017, 11:41 pm
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