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Open Thread - 7/23/2014

US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Open Thread )

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Personal news, a Jig Zone puzzle, 3 short takes, and a homemade cartoon (shown). If you would like me to send you cards with links to my articles, add me as a friend.


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JL A (281)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 2:00 pm
I am glad all the former CBO folks rose to defend the current professionals. Also welcome the parliamentarian not succumbing to partisan pressure, real or perceived.
I understand there is also an earlier memo than Starr's saying much the same from an earlier administration (Reagan's I think related to Iran-Contra).
Ice cream does sound like a solution just now...

Kathleen M (211)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 2:08 pm
Noted. Thx for posting TC. Gotta love former CBO folks verbally boxing Ryan's ears! RESIST!

Joanne D (38)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 2:11 pm
4:18 Do be careful; this bird grabs back.

We had some rain last night, but the cooling didn't last long.


TP - And I don't think he can do a rules change on those rules. There are specific, and they are there for good reasons. And besides that, there's McCain.

NYT - Technically, Clinton would have been indicted for obstruction of justice and perjury. The same would probably be true of the Furor. Just as one doesn't go to war with the army one wishes one had, one doesn't go to court with the charges one wishes one could prove.

Cartoon - It took them a whole day?!!?!


Pat B (356)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 2:49 pm
DK: Bravo to every CBO director who signed the letter telling lyin' ryan that he's...well....lyin'.

TP: Good news!

NYT: Another good article, let's get this party started!

Cartoon: My favorite part of the ice cream cone is the bottom. That's where the good stuff is. lol.

Hope all went well and that you're comfortable now. Enjoy your evening, take care, and Thanks, Tom.

Ted W (127)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 2:49 pm
Noted, forwarded and shared ultra-liberally across four networks!!!!!! RESISTt Thanks for sharing, Tomcat!!

David C (108)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 3:10 pm
555, stand strong, stand together, resist

David C (108)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 3:11 pm
a very important day, the ice cream cone, one of humanity's greatest achievements....just kidding

Walter F (129)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 5:07 pm
T om thanks for the news .Sorry the heat is troubling you .Try to stay cool and well

Mitchell D (86)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 5:22 pm
NYT: Yes! and here is my link to my posting of this atC2:
DK: It is nice to seethe some people in official capacity can tell Ryan where to shove it!
TP: Nice, but don’t think they will just slink away with their tails between their legs, like the rats they are.
Cartoon: Has no one in the Trump family claimed that honor, yet?

Katie & Bill D (107)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 7:41 pm
The Healthcare Bill as just been way too Sneaky being behind closed doors and the threats the president and McConnell has made! Keep calling and Kill this Again.
No One can be without the insurance they need.
I agree with you about Lyan Ryan and if Trump goes he will be the Vice-President. DA~~
What a Mess! His grin Kills me! Too Sneaky!
Thank you TomCat

Jess B (1)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 9:10 pm
Noted, thanks

Lynn S (235)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 9:33 pm
Puzzle --- 3:14  This raptor might be on the small side as raptor's go, but he is strong with sharp talons and he does not take crap from Puddy Tats!

Daily Kos --- Lyin' Ryan would deny others access to the same benefits and opportunities that he himself had.  He is an arrogant asshole who thinks he knows better than an army of statisticians and analysts who analyse economic and social data for a living on a non partisan basis.  Ryan and the rest of the Republican rabble need to be kicked into the unemployment line asap.

Think Progress --- "Is it dead yet?" is just like saying "Are we there yet?"  And the same answer applies "No!".  Republicans will keep trying to repeal and replace Obamacare, although they'd prefer to just repeal it (they tried that 53 times so far!) as long as they have breath, or they are all dumped out of office.  The latter is preferable!  Republicans are persistent little cusses!

NY Times --- "Well, if Slick Willie could be indicted for a BJ, Fuhrer Drumpfenfarten can certainly be indicted for conspiring with a hostile foreign power. " --- Amen!  Drumpf won't like this at all, especially if Muëller and his team really get on a roll.  No doubt that Drumpf will compare himself to Bill Clinton with the idea that if Clinton was not indicted then he should not be indicted either.  What a putz!

Cartoon --- Ah, the noble cone!  It is also good for wearing a cone in the form of a dunce cap on one's head.  Every Republican should be wearing a dunce cap!

If my dad were alive today, he'd be 91 years.  As it is, he died 3 June 2007, just short of his 81st birthday.  RIP dad!

Resist and Persist!!!

It was sunny and 27 C (81 F) here today with 47% humidity, so just a tich too warm.  But we have had winds at 20 km/hr which was very pleasant.  When I came home this afternoon after church, the house was reasonable but it is nice and cool now that the windows are open.  I'm sorry you have such a hot and stuffy abode.

Glennis W (395)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 9:48 pm
Loved your cartoon So sorry to hear it has been so hot and humid same down under but no humidity thank goodness, we will cop it soon too. Weird weather everywhere. Take care and rest as well as you can Thank you for caring and sharing TomCat

Dawnie W (250)
Sunday July 23, 2017, 11:42 pm
💙💚💜Noted...I'm feeling sorry for you battling the heat. It was a lovely 3% c here this morning. And the sun came out for a few moments but disappeared just as quickly. I remember the last time I went to Queensland it was just awful and when one got out of the shower. I was wanting to get back in. So I feel for you. Thanks for the jigsaw and interesting thread.

💚💙💜Thank you...Tomcat💙💜💚

💚😉💜ღ 💙Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ😺💜L💙ve, Hugs and Peace go with you all💜😺Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ ღ💙😉💚

Nita L (125)
Monday July 24, 2017, 2:18 am
Kudos to former CBO director. Try and stay cool. Thank you TC.

Janis K (126)
Monday July 24, 2017, 4:43 am
Thanks for sharing.

Lona G (67)
Monday July 24, 2017, 5:07 am
DK: Kudos to the former Directors of the CBO indeed! Note their “To meet the standard of nonpartisan objectivity…” after they pointed out that “[The] CBO works for the Congress, and only the Congress…” Splendid, that’s saying so much as “The CBO doesn’t work for the corporate 1% and their lobbyist, or individual Congressmen for that matter!” The people that work for the CBO agency are independent econometrists and statisticians, the most ‘hardcore’ economic sciences can get and all they do is compute and report on the basis of the “data”, i.e. bills, Congress hands them; they do not advise. Perhaps Ryan and McConnell should hand the CBO less bogus bills: what goes in, must come out, right? 😈

TP: I was a little confused as all elected representatives are called parliamentarians here and in the EU, so I looked it up. For the benefit of any other confused outsider 😕:

The Parliamentarian of the United States Senate is the official advisor to the United States Senate on the interpretation of Standing Rules of the United States Senate and parliamentary procedure. (Wikipedia)

This made it very clear to me that this isn’t wishful thinking on the part of a Democratic Congressman, but an official ruling, that will make it impossible for McConnell to drag substantial number of parts of the Obamacare repeal and replace bill through the Senate. Republicans would do well to put Trumpcare out of its misery fast. It’s prolonged and painful death is showing too many people what they can expect when they get sick if it accepted.

NYT: Ouch! I bet Republicans wish now that that memo had been destroyed instead of hidden in the archives. Kudos to The New York Times for remembering it and officially digging it up again. Of course the White House, and the GOP, are going to try, but will have little success with that Bill Clinton’s “offenses” were “more criminal” as “criminal acts that are not part of, and are contrary to, the president’s official duties” than, as you say TomCat: conspiring with a hostile foreign power. Or any of the other criminal (financial) acts Rachel Maddow has already alluded to and Mueller certainly will dig up if they happened.

Winn A (179)
Monday July 24, 2017, 6:31 am

Ed Site Issues V (198)
Monday July 24, 2017, 8:20 am
Noted, Thanks

Ian C (31)
Monday July 24, 2017, 12:24 pm
Signed :)

TomCat S (127)
Monday July 24, 2017, 1:38 pm
Thanks and hugs to all.

Sheila D (28)
Monday July 24, 2017, 4:00 pm
3:27. Perfect description of Lyin' Ryan.
Good to know Wendy is taking such good care of you.
Thanks for the post, TomCat.

Barb SiteIssues V (202)
Monday July 24, 2017, 5:36 pm
Noted, Thank you

Janet B (0)
Monday July 24, 2017, 7:24 pm

Colleen L (3)
Monday July 24, 2017, 9:00 pm
Cute cartoon. Humidity is what's killing us here. Take care. Thanks TomCat

TomCat S (127)
Tuesday July 25, 2017, 1:45 pm

Danuta W (1251)
Wednesday July 26, 2017, 3:58 am
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