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Open Thread - 12/5/2017

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Joanne D (38)
Tuesday December 5, 2017, 1:52 pm
5:01 Got the blues, got the blues, got those tropical fish blues so bad.

From the Daily Kos Elections Team: "In a normal universe, it would be shocking to see the leader of the Republican Party endorse someone with credible allegations of sexually assaulting minors against them just to obtain tax cuts, but nothing more perfectly encapsulates what the modern Republican Party has become in the age of Trump."

Ryan Grim at The Intercept has put up a petition to MSNBC regarding Sam Seder, because "MSNBC, under pressure from the so-called "alt-right," severed ties with contributor Sam Seder over a tweet from 2009 that was criticizing liberal defenders of Roman Polanski. MSNBC simply misread the tweet and over-reacted to the pressure from the far right. They should pause, think, and reverse this cowardly decision." Link HERE Background at Daily Kos HERE

Sam - Well done. Not that anyone needs economists to tell them it doesn't work. As long as anyone poor or middle class is still alive and has not died from malnutrition or a pre-existing condition, he or she knows that.

LA Times - Yup.


Cartoon - But where's the gun?


Freya H (358)
Tuesday December 5, 2017, 2:04 pm
As if we needed more proof of what an incompetent eff-up our so-called POTUS is.

Mark Twain wrote, "If Christ were here there is one thing he would not be - a Christian." How absolutely true.

David C (108)
Tuesday December 5, 2017, 2:10 pm
4:17, thanks, keep spreading the true story , TC.....

Ted W (127)
Tuesday December 5, 2017, 2:47 pm
Noted, forwarded, and sharedf ultra-liberally across four networks!! RESIST!! Many thanks for yet another fine post, TomCat!!

Pat B (356)
Tuesday December 5, 2017, 3:06 pm
Sam: Well done, and said. We're screwed.

LAT: Absolutely, the rethugs wouldn't have it any other way.

NYT: Unreal. Dowd's driving the clown car for his Führer.

Cartoon: Sad.

Glad that you found another venue for your food delivery. Hope that you get some rest, take care, and Thanks, Tom.

Kathleen Mireault (211)
Tuesday December 5, 2017, 3:45 pm
Noted with complete disgust! Thx TC. Hope your food service is satisfactory. Take good care! 💖 🎶

Glennis W (395)
Tuesday December 5, 2017, 4:45 pm
So glad you have found a good grocery service Cartoon very sad. Take care and rest well Thank you for caring and sharing TomCat

Mitchell D (86)
Tuesday December 5, 2017, 6:06 pm
Full Frontal: Bill Clinton, that scuzzy liberal/commie, did what for the economy?  
LAT: That's the ethical way to go!  An abomination on the right!
NewYorker: Dowd might as well go work fro Penn and Teller (no negative aspersions meant, guys)
'Toon: Can you imagine???

Colleen L (3)
Tuesday December 5, 2017, 6:14 pm
I too am sick from all the disgusting crap going on right now in the senate. Happy to hear that you got a grocery service. Hope it works out. Thanks TomCat

Nita L (125)
Wednesday December 6, 2017, 12:03 am
Thank you TomCat.

Animae C (507)
Wednesday December 6, 2017, 3:14 am
Thanx TC 🐱

Lynn Squance (235)
Wednesday December 6, 2017, 3:20 am
Puzzle — 3:59 Is this one safe to eat? If it is, it won’t be very satisfying.

Fantasy Football — Did I ever kick ass in week 13 or what? — 122.72 to 69.88 for Jack. This week it is endthegop in my sights which given they don’t really exist anymore, is an automatic win for me. That means 5-9-0 for me, the same as endthegop. So it is up to the Fantasy Football gods to see if I advance from 7th to 6th place.

LA Times — “He also called for a public airing of settlements paid by other members of Congress as a result of sexual harassment allegations. The settlement involving Conyers became public because he used money from his congressional account to pay the former aide. Other settlements have been paid from a centralized House account and remain secret.” — I wonder what the outcome would be . . . mostly Republican??? The fact that this list is kept secret is rather troubling. Let’s have some transparency since these settlements are paid from public funds.

Full Frontal — Bruce Bartlett: “… what they really want is a deficit caused by tax cuts because then they have an excuse to slash benefits for the lazy poor.” — I agree with Bartlett with one caveat — the poor are not lazy! A truthful admission from a Republican! Too bad that the Drumpf voters have yet to understand this, although I think some are going to very soon.

The New Yorker — ““Let’s be clear,” Dowd said. “Since Donald Trump was elected President, he has done nothing.”” — Oh the irony of that statement!

Cartoon — Very sad!

Resist, Persist and Remove!!!

Silence is Consent!!!


Lona G (67)
Wednesday December 6, 2017, 5:52 am
Full Frontal: Put some economists in front of the camera who do not work for the 1% and have integrity and you get the real story: The Laffer Curve (probably called The Laugher Curve among the 1%) is fiction and is only been proven wrong. And you get to hear the rest of the story too: the tax cuts are only the beginning for a win-win-win situation for the rich. They make millions of dollars because of the tax cuts, but the national deficit will explode. Which is a good thing for the rich too, because then they can slash benefits for those lazy poor, freeing even more money for them. Even the French aristocracy didn’t take it that far before they ended up under the guillotine.

LAT: Good thing Conyers stepped out, it is the ethical thing to do. But if it is only done by Democrats to show they have higher standards than Republicans, i.e. for political reasons only, then the accusations the women made were in vain, the real but underlying problem is not addressed but taken away from them and nothing will change.

TNY: Great piece of satire, Andy; except for the last line: ' “Let’s be clear,” Dowd said. “Since Donald Trump was elected President, he has done nothing.” ' Too true.

Winn Adams (179)
Wednesday December 6, 2017, 5:55 am
Thanks TC

Ben O (140)
Wednesday December 6, 2017, 6:05 am
Thanks Tom!

Sheila D (28)
Wednesday December 6, 2017, 12:00 pm
3:21. YT: It was obvious when Reagan was President and it should be obvious now; cutting taxes for the rich doesn't help anyone but the rich.
LAT: I do find a difference between sexual predators like our sociopath in charge and people just being stupid (or trying to be funny); however, the hunt is on so no one is safe anymore. Just hope this "cleansing" works and men AND women stop this sexual harassment.
TNY: This attorney can't be very bright. Maybe we should throw him in prison for covering up a crime.
Cartoon: Sadly, the rabid Right seems to believe this.
Thanks for the post, TomCat. Good to know you found a store better than Safeway.

TomCat S (127)
Wednesday December 6, 2017, 12:11 pm
Thanks and very pooped hugs to all.

Dianna M (16)
Wednesday December 6, 2017, 3:09 pm
The New Yorker: Gotta call BS on that one, I heard it was Hillary that was imitating 45's voice. I thought she did a darn good job, too, not only did she have the voice down, she mimicked his speech patterns and intonation too! And when she got off that bus, she looked EXACTLY like the T, that woman is INCREDIBLE.

Rachel Nichols (0)
Wednesday December 6, 2017, 4:00 pm

Janet B (0)
Wednesday December 6, 2017, 7:30 pm

Winn Adams (179)
Thursday December 7, 2017, 7:41 am

TomCat S (127)
Thursday December 7, 2017, 1:28 pm

Katie & Bill D (107)
Thursday December 7, 2017, 8:22 pm
They write on the WALLS??
I hate FOX news!!
Glad to hear you have a Back-up for Groceries. Now they don;t have a CHOKE-Hold on you
Thank you TomCat

Marija M (28)
Friday December 8, 2017, 6:26 am
Thank you very much Tom.
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