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World Bank & IMF Deals Open Ukraine Up for Monsanto, Land Grabs & GMOs - US Corporations Jubilant at 'Goldmine' In Store

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Little-known aspect of Ukraine crisis, World Bank & IMF loan conditions forcing the deeply indebted country to open up to GMO crops (until now barred) & lift the ban on private sector land ownership. Change to pro-EU govt's ushered in drastic reforms..


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Thursday September 18, 2014, 7:39 am
> Little-known
... but EXTREMELY-easy-to-guess..
> aspect of Ukraine crisis

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 8:01 am

11th September 2014, The Ecologist - "Ukraine opens up for Monsanto, land grabs and GMOs":

"Hidden from mainstream media exposure, the World Bank and IMF loan has opened up Ukraine to major corporate inroads, writes Joyce Nelson. Loan conditions are forcing the deeply indebted country to open up to GMO crops, and lift the ban on private sector land ownership. US corporations are jubilant at the 'goldmine' that awaits them.

Finally, a little-known aspect of the crisis in Ukraine is receiving some international attention.

The California-based Oakland Institute recently released a report [see next comment below] revealing that the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), under terms of their $17 billion loan to Ukraine, would open that country to genetically-modified (GM) crops and genetically-modified organisms (GMOs) in agriculture.

The report is entitled 'Walking on the West Side: the World Bank and the IMF in the Ukraine Conflict'.

In late 2013, the then president of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, rejected a European Union association agreement tied to the $17 billion IMF loan, whose terms are only now being revealed.

Instead, Yanukovych chose a Russian aid package worth $15 billion plus a discount on Russian natural gas. His decision was a major factor in the ensuing deadly protests that led to his ouster from office in February 2014 and the ongoing crisis.

According to the Oakland Institute, "Whereas Ukraine does not allow the use of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) in agriculture, Article 404 of the EU agreement, which relates to agriculture, includes a clause that has generally gone unnoticed: it indicates, among other things, that both parties will cooperate to extend the use of biotechnologies.

"There is no doubt that this provision meets the expectations of the agribusiness industry. As observed by Michael Cox, research director at the investment bank Piper Jaffray, 'Ukraine and, to a wider extent, Eastern Europe, are among the most promising growth markets for farm-equipment giant Deere, as well as seed producers Monsanto and DuPont'."

Ukrainian law bars farmers from growing GM crops. Long considered 'the bread basket of Europe', Ukraine's rich black soil is ideal for growing grains, and in 2012 Ukrainian farmers harvested more than 20 million tonnes of corn.

Monsanto's 'non-GMO' $140m investment

In May 2013, Monsanto announced plans to invest $140 million in a non-GMO corn seed plant in Ukraine, with Monsanto Ukraine spokesman Vitally Fechuk confirming that "We will be working with conventional seeds only" because "in Ukraine only conventional seeds are allowed for production and importation."

But by November 2013, six large Ukrainian agriculture associations had prepared draft amendments to the law, pushing for "creating, testing, transportation and use of GMOs regarding the legalization of GM seeds."

The president of the Ukrainian Grain Association, Volodymyr Klymenko, told a Nov. 5 press conference in Kiev:

"We could mull over this issue for a long time, but we, jointly with the [agricultural] associations, have signed two letters to change the law on biosecurity, in which we proposed the legalization of the use of GM seeds, which had been tested in the United States for a long time, for our producers."

(Note: actually, GM seeds and GMOs have never undergone independent, long-term testing in the US.)

Creating a 'favorable environment' - for Monsanto

The agricultural associations' draft amendments coincided with the terms of the EU association agreement and IMF/World Bank loan.

The website - which tracks GMO news worldwide - immediately slammed the agricultural associations' proposal, with director Henry Rowlands stating:

"Ukraine agriculture will be seriously damaged if the Ukrainian government legally allows GM seeds in the country. Their farmers will find their export markets reduced due to consumers' anti-GMO sentiments both in Russia and the EU."

Rowlands said that Monsanto's investment in Ukraine "could rise to $300 million within several years. Does Ukrainian agriculture want to totally rely on the success or failure of one US-based company?"

On December 13, 2013, Monsanto's Jesus Madrazo, Vice President of Corporate Engagement, told the US-Ukraine Conference in Washington, DC that the company sees "the importance of creating a favorable environment [in Ukraine] that encourages innovation and fosters the continued development of agriculture.

"Ukraine has the opportunity to further develop the potential of conventional crops, which is where we are currently concentrating our efforts. We also hope that at some point biotechnology is a tool that will be available to Ukrainian farmers in the future."

Just a few days before Madrazo's remarks in Washington, Monsanto Ukraine had launched its "social development" program for the country, called 'Grain Basket of the Future'. It provides grants to rural villagers so they can (in Monsanto's words) "start feeling that they can improve their situation themselves as opposed to waiting for a handout."

Actually, the real "handout" is the one going to Big US Agribusiness through the terms of the IMF / World Bank loan, which besides opening the country to GM crops, will also further lift the ban on the sale of Ukraine's rich agricultural lands to the private sector.

As Morgan Williams, president and CEO of the US-Ukraine Business Council, told International Business Times in March, "Ukraine's agriculture could be a real gold mine."

But he added that there are "many aspects of the [Ukraine] business climate that need to be changed. The major item would center around getting the government out of business ... "

The WikiLeaks Cables - lobbying for GMO

In August 2011, WikiLeaks released US diplomatic cables showing that the US State Department has been lobbying worldwide for Monsanto and other biotechnology corporations like DuPont, Syngenta, Bayer and Dow.

The US non-profit Food & Water Watch, after combing through five years of these cables (2005-2009), released its report 'Biotech Ambassadors: How the US State Department Promotes the Seed Industry's Global Agenda' on May 14, 2013.

The report showed the US State Department has "lobbied foreign governments to adopt pro-agricultural biotechnology policies and laws, operated a rigorous public relations campaign to improve the image of biotechnology, and challenged commonsense biotechnology safeguards and rules - even including opposing laws requiring the labeling of genetically-engineered (GE) foods."

According to (March 16, 2014), Morgan Williams is at "the nexus of Big Ag's alliance with US foreign policy."

Besides being president and CEO of the US-Ukraine Business Council, Williams is Director of Government Affairs at private equity firm SigmaBleyzer, which touts Williams' work with "various agencies of the US government, members of Congress, congressional committees, the Embassy of Ukraine to the US, international financial institutions, think tanks and other organizations on US-Ukraine business, trade, investment and economic development issues."

The US-Ukraine Business Council's 16-member Executive Committee is packed with US agribusiness companies, including representatives from Monsanto, John Deere, DuPont Pioneer, Eli Lilly, and Cargill.

The Council's 20 'senior Advisors' include James Greene (Former Head of NATO Liason Office Ukraine); Ariel Cohen (Senior Research Fellow for The Heritage Foundation); Leonid Kozachenko (President of the Ukrainian Agrarian Confederation); six former US Ambassadors to Ukraine, and the former ambassador of Ukraine to the US, Oleh Shamshur.

Shamshur is now a senior advisor to PBN Hill + Knowlton Strategies - a unit of PR giant Hill + Knowlton Strategies (H+K). H + K is a subsidiary of the gargantuan London-based WPP Group, which owns some dozen big PR firms, including Burson-Marsteller (a long-time Monsanto advisor).

Hill + Knowlton Strategies

On April 15, 2014 Toronto's Globe & Mail newspaper published an op-ed piece by H+K assistant consultant Olga Radchenko. The piece railed against Russian President Vladimir Putin and "Mr. Putin's PR machine" and stated that

"Last month [March 2014 - a month after the coup], a group of Kiev-based PR professionals formed the Ukraine Crisis Media Centre, a voluntary operation aimed at helping to communicate Ukraine's image and manage its messaging on the global stage."

The PBN Hill + Knowlton Strategies website states that the company's CEO Myron Wasylyk is "a Board member of the US-Ukraine Business Council", and the company's Managing Director/Ukraine, Oksana Monastyrska, "leads the firm's work for Monsanto." Monastyrska also formerly worked for the World Bank's International Finance Corporation.

According to the Oakland Institute, the terms of the World Bank/IMF loan to Ukraine have already led to "an increase in foreign investment, which is likely to result in further expansion of large-scale acquisitions of agricultural land by foreign companies and further corporatization of agriculture in the country."

Meanwhile, Russia's Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev stated in April: "We don't have a goal of developing GM products here or to import them. We can feed ourselves with normal, common, not genetically modified products. If the Americans like to eat such products, let them eat them. We don't need to do that; we have enough space and opportunities to produce organic food."

Hill + Knowlton, with its Kuwait 'incubator babies atrocities' falsehood, was instrumental in getting the American public to back the first Gulf War on Iraq in the early 1990s.

Now the company is involved in fomenting a Cold War 2 or worse, and on behalf of Monsanto - recently voted the "most evil" corporation on the planet.

That's something to recall in the midst of the extensive mainstream media demonizing of Putin. "

{To take advantage of the (many) links in this well-documented piece, please refer to the online version on the 'The Ecologist' site, linked to at the start of the article.}

From the 'Oakland Institute' campaign site: Sign the petition: Tell the World Bank to Stop Supporting Land Grabs


LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 8:07 am

Oakland Institute, July 28, 2014 - 'Oakland Institute' Press Release on Their Report, "Walking on the West Side: the World Bank and the IMF in the Ukraine Conflict": "The World Bank and the IMF Open up Ukraine to Western Interests":

Oakland, California-- "A new report from the Oakland Institute, "Walking on the West Side: the World Bank and the IMF in the Ukraine Conflict," exposes how the international financial institutions swooped in on the heels of the political upheaval and are vying to deregulate and throw open Ukraine’s vast agricultural sector to foreign investors. Former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych’s rejection of an EU Association agreement in favor of a Russian deal was a major factor in the crisis that led to his ouster in February 2014. Immediately following the change to a pro-EU government, the country’s pivot to the West was solidified with a $17 billion loan from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and an additional $3.5 billion aid package from the World Bank, both of which require significant economic reforms and austerity measures that are set to have disastrous effects within the nation.

The report details how the aid packages, contingent on austerity reforms, will have a devastating impact on Ukrainians’ standard of living and increase poverty in the country. Reforms mandated by the EU-backed loan include agricultural deregulation that will benefit agribusiness corporations and natural resource and land policy shifts that facilitate foreign corporate takeover of enormous tracts of land. The EU Association Agreement also includes a clause requiring both parties to cooperate to extend the use of biotechnology.

"While the World Bank and IMF often disguise their activities in other countries under the objectives of development, the case of Ukraine makes it clear that this is just Orwellian double-speak. Their intent is blatant: to open up foreign markets to Western corporations. It’s telling that one of the key reforms enforced by the Bank is that the government must limit its own power by removing restrictions to competition as well as the role of state ‘control’ in economic activities," said Frederic Mousseau, Policy Director of the Oakland Institute and co-author of the report.

“The high stakes around control of Ukraine’s vast agricultural sector, the world’s third largest exporter of corn and fifth largest exporter of wheat, constitute an oft-overlooked critical factor. In recent years, foreign corporations have acquired more than 1.6 million hectares of Ukrainian land,” he continued. An additional deal signed with China for 3 million hectares of farmland in September 2013 is in limbo, since it is unclear whether the freshly minted government and its new Western allies will allow it to go forward.

"Walking on the West Side" exposes how the international financial institutions serve the interests of agribusiness corporations through deregulation of the food and agriculture sectors and policies favoring foreign land acquisitions. Ukraine is also one of the 10 pilot countries in the World Bank’s new Benchmarking the Business of Agriculture (BBA) project, a widely criticized ranking system that promotes agricultural policy reforms including the deregulation of seed and fertilizer markets.

“The Bank’s activities and its loan and reform programs in Ukraine seem to be working toward the expansion of large industrial holdings in Ukrainian agriculture owned by foreign entities,” said Mousseau.

Beyond agriculture, it is expected that reforms pitched as a means to improve the business climate and increase private investment in the country will have a devastating social impact, resulting in a collapse of the standard of living and dramatic increases in poverty.

The acceleration of structural adjustment led by the international institutions following the installation of a pro-West government is likely to further expand foreign acquisitions of agricultural land and extend the corporatization of agriculture in the country. The structural adjustment program will also likely increase foreign control of the economy while increasing poverty and inequality in the country. The World Bank and the IMF, however, have failed to demonstrate how such programs will improve the lives of Ukrainian citizens and build a sustainable economic future.

An international campaign, "Our Land Our Business" (scroll down beyond the YouTube cartoon), is working to end the World Bank’s Doing Business Rankings and BBA project, tools that are used widely today to pry open natural resources to further corporate interests. To learn more, please visit #WorldVsBank "

Sign the petition: Tell the World Bank to Stop Supporting Land Grabs

Download the report

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 8:30 am

--------------------Ongoing Campaign from 'The Oakland Institute'---------------------

Please watch the short, simple & informative cartoon that the Oakland Institute has put out to spearhead their campaign against World Bank's "Doing Business rankings". The cartoon explains how the World Bank's business rating system works & how it is the driving force behind land grabs around the world; it also gives devastating figures of the numbers of small farmers -from Cambodia to Ethiopia - who have been dispossessed by multinationals & the ruling elites in their countries, because of the World Bank's Doing Business ratings.

"Right now, millions of people are being thrown off their land because large corporations are being given special rights.The World Bank is driving this destructive trend with its Doing Business rankings, which force countries to compete with each other to do away with things like environmental protections, workers rights and corporation taxes."

"Sign on to demand the abolition of the rankings."

180 Organizations from around the World Demand that the World Bank Shut Down Its Business Rankings & Benchmarking :

"(When) the spring meetings of the World Bank (got) underway in Washington, DC (this past April), 180 organizations, including NGOs, unions, and farmer & consumer groups from over 80 countries, demand(ed) that the World Bank end its Doing Business rankings and its support of the rampant theft of land and resources from some of the world’s poorest people -- farmers, pastoralists, and indigenous communities, many of whom are essential food producers for the entire planet. ..." --> Read on!!

Apolonia Pl (392)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 9:05 am
Horrible!... Signed!... But only global revolution can stop these thieves...

Jim Steve (43)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 9:39 am
Notes: The Ukraine supplies a lot of the food used in Russia and EU countries. Without this Ukrainian grain, there would be shortages or, at least, large price increases in food. This is Monsanto's end around the bans on GMO's and Monsanto's herbicides that are sprayed directly on Monsanto's herbicide proof grains. This becomes a one way street as once Monsanto's seed is used, it is very difficult to return to any other seed.

Note: Those that think the answers are government protecting the people are naive. Government is the way Monsanto other multinational corporations and the international banking cartel get their way. Without ceding the power people have given the states, Monsanto and such would not have the advantage they do. Those that think that "democracy", and "voting" will change the picture are deceived. Public opinion is molded by corporate controlled media and "democracy" becomes a political tool with special interest coalitions getting what they want by selling out the majority for their own advancement. In fact, they only give lip service to the sectors of the public they claim to represent.

Washington DC, and other centers of political and financial power are cesspools of corruption. As the the corrupt gain more and more for themselves, the world economies are declining on a per capita basis. As individuals, we should not begrudge those that are productive getting more wealthy. But these people are now the exception, not the rule. Most gain wealthy through the political means and financial manipulation. If this does not stop, then the next generations will become a version of the serfs of the middle ages as a new aristocracy is arising.

Bryan S (105)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 3:48 pm
Thanks for this Jill and petition signed. No we're certainly not going to here about this in the MSM.

The IMF and World Bank loans have a long history of being used to enable the corporate pillaging of countries that need financial help. The local economy is destroyed and the people are forced to forever pay back these high-interest loans at the sacrifice of their own infrastructure and well being. And of course this is especially horrible considering the GMO agenda.

Yeah, ask the farmers in India about Monsanto's "social development". A lot of sunlight needs to be shed on these damned blood-suckers and loan sharks.

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 8:08 pm
Thank you for telling the World Bank to stop ranking countries in a way that undermines local farmers and Indigenous Peoples.

That Monsanto would be like a vulture swooping in doesn't surprise me. I'm afraid Apolonia is correct here.


LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Friday September 19, 2014, 1:40 am
What really disgusts & worries me so end is that joining the EU, which should have been a positive step for Ukraine, ends up being super-negative! Our EU has been hijacked by right-wing forces & the powerful lobbies they are influenced by.

We are just not 'on the case' here in Europe! We seem to lack effective activism & mobilization to counter these terrible moves & trends; to counter the influence of powerful lobbies. This probably has a lot to do with the rather opaque organization of Europe & the fact that it's been set up in such as way as NOT to provide responsiveness to citizens' concerns.

I thought the anti-GMO movement was strong in Europe: there is a lot of organic farming in Italy, I know from my regular visits, & I'm delighted with the Italian organic tomatoes, Sicilian oranges & lemons, etc. that I find at my local organic stores both down the block & across the street, as well as at the organic street markets in diff Parisian neighborhoods.

Poland, too, has organic farming to defend against EU policy. link text
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"Since 1996, the agricultural branch of the French social security system has gathered about 200 alerts per year regarding sickness related to pesticides. However only 47 cases were even recognized in the past 10 years."
and "Nations are continually taking a stand against Monsanto, with nations like Hungary destroying 1000 acres of GM maize"

And whereas C2 can be a useful activist tool for US issues & occasional international human rights abuse, it just doesn't work for Europe. It seems that too few members are really interested in what goes on over here.

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LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Friday September 19, 2014, 2:51 am
My last comment somehow got posted before it was finished, while I was still composing it, so let me clear up what I wanted to say:

I thought the ANTI-GMO movement was strong in Europe, so I was heartsick to read in the article I posted that "Whereas Ukraine DOES NOT ALLOW the use of GMOs in agriculture, ... the EU agreement...includes a clause [on agriculture] that has generally GONE UNNOTICED: it indicates, among other things, that BOTH parties will cooperate to EXTEND THE USE of biotechnologies."

Given what I know about the feeling on GMOs prevalent in several European countries, I'm amazed & revolted that the EU would put such a clause in the agreement with Ukraine. Just to give you an idea of the strength & importance of the anti-GMO movement & pro-ORGANIC developments:

"On May 21 (2013), the Italian Senate UNANIMOUSLY VOTED AGAINST permitting GM crops in the country. On May 31, GM crop developer Monsanto RETREATED from production in Europe due to lack of demand," according to this June 30, 2013 article, which, despite the good news, sounds a different alarm: GMOs in Italian Artisan Foods: Traditions Impacted by Biotech?: "Parmesan cheese and other beloved Italian food exports give the issue of genetically modified organisms (GMO) in Italy international breadth. Though GM CROPS ARE BANNED FROM ITALIAN FIELDS, much of the country’s LIVESTOCK is FED with GM SOY imported from Brazil and Argentina.

.../... Products in Italy must be labeled GMO if they are more than 0.9 percent GM—this does not apply, however, to products derived from animals fed GMOs .../..."

As Apolonia surely knows, Poland, too, has a vital & vigorous organic agriculture sector to defend (against what seems to have become a sneaky EU policy, slipped into agreements for newly entering members). In Oct. 2013, the Polish Treasury Ministry announced Organic food – the fastest growing food market in Poland The number of organic farms, organic fields & organic food-processing facilities has never stopped increasing since 2003, according to the diagrams the ministry proudly publishes! In Feb 2014, Poland Announce(d) Complete Ban on Monsanto’s GMO Corn, because, "In addition to being linked to a plethora health ailments, |Agriculture Minister Marek]Sawicki says that the pollen originating from this GM strain may actually be devastating the already dwindling bee population."

The same article (the last linked to) goes on: "Similar opposition to Monsanto occurred on March 9th, when 7 European countries blocked a proposal by the Danish EU presidency which would permit the cultivation of genetically modified plants on the entire continent. It was France, who in February, lead the charge against GMOs by asking the European Commission to suspend authorization to Monsanto’s genetically modified corn. What’s more, the country settled a landmark case in favor of the people over Monsanto, finding the biotech giant guilty of chemical poisoning.*" and "Nations are continually taking a stand against Monsanto, with nations like Hungary destroying 1000 acres of GM maize"

(*However, "Since 1996, the agricultural branch of the French social security system has gathered about 200 ALERTS PER YEAR regarding SICKNESS related to PESTICIDES. However only 47 cases were even recognized in the past 10 years." & we've even heard about genital malformations on baby boys on the rise among farming families & populations close to agricultural fields)

I'm frankly distressed that C2 is not proving to be an effective tool for mobilizing on important European issues: it just doesn't work for Europe! It seems that too few members are really interested in what goes on over here. Or else, I have too many American friends & too few European ones! (Where is Jelica??? What a shame that Zen & Jytte are no longer among us!)

If any of you are friends with Angelika, perhaps you could send her word of this post (please?) to see if she'd agree to help.

Brazil is a catastrophe in terms of GMO crops, notorious for fields & fields of GM soy exported all around the globe! Brazil is the 2nd largest producer of genetically modified organisms (GMOs) in the world, behind only the United States. Brazil has about 37 million hectares (92 million acres) of land planted with GM crops, according to agribusiness consultancy agency Céleres (pdf). That is more than half of the 67.7 million hectares (167.3 million acres) used for agriculture in Brazil overall, according to the 2013 estimates.../...

Despite this July 2014 news that Brazilian farmers demand Monsanto refund their money for GMO crops that don't work, I haven't been able to find out how many farmers are dissatisfied & complaining. I doubt this concerns a majority, or those with the largest farms, although I do wish it did!

Bruce C D (89)
Friday September 19, 2014, 3:58 am
Petition signed, noted. Thank-you, Lucy.

I agree, Lucy; this is the "shock doctrine" all over again. I have supported whatever choice the majority of Ukrainians decide, and I don't fault them for no longer wishing to be under Russia's boot. It's a travesty, though, that they should be unduly exploited whichever direction they turn. I don't think the West is doing itself any favors, because I fear long-term benefits are being sacrificed for short-term gains. I'm surprised that European nations would go along with the GMO part, however.

Sheryl G (359)
Friday September 19, 2014, 6:16 am
"Our EU has been hijacked by right-wing forces & the powerful lobbies they are influenced by.

We are just not 'on the case' here in Europe! We seem to lack effective activism & mobilization to counter these terrible moves & trends; to counter the influence of powerful lobbies. This probably has a lot to do with the rather opaque organization of Europe & the fact that it's been set up in such as way as NOT to provide responsiveness to citizens' concerns."

This is exactly what is going on in has spread to you and is why Ros said, "I have to admit I do focus on US politics&policies.....only because it is far reaching and effects us all......"

Bruce I agree above, it is a shame Ukraine appears between a rock and a hard place. This is what is in fact going on all over the world, short term gain at the lack of long term sight, of if they have it, the ones that are gaining simply do not care. To me we have a bunch of psychopaths in key areas and others willing to go with them for lack of sight, their indoctrinated training, getting caught up in the money, or feeling trapped in their own personal survival so if it is something they are even aware of see no way to take care of their immediate needs without going along or may have surrounded themselves with sociopaths to help them with this.

I feel though that many of the key people in power positions are psychopaths and sociopaths. Psychopaths and sociopaths; per definition are generally incapable of sympathizing with the feelings of others, and lack the set of ethics that tend to keep society from dissolving into a chaotic mess where everyone only looks out for themselves. They also have a non-existent or impaired sense of disgust, meaning they are able to look at things that would make another person turn away. The psychopath is usually used in regards to someone who has crossed the line into the criminal element; which we know many have done so.

What is happening in the world very much describes these aspects, and they have mind the mines of many around the world to go along with the unacceptable. In order to do what they do with mining, drilling, wars, a ripping off from a system that many in the past toiled their entire lives to bring forth, a filling of our world with toxins and questionable foods they had to indoctrinate a whole generation or two to go with the plan, for it one is not a sociopath or psychopath, one would accept this unacceptable vision. There is an awakening and it will grow. Will it grow fast enough, I don't know.

Dominant Culture refers to these things as externalities and these are not at all factored into doing the business of almost anyone today, large and small. I placed a wonderful 4 minute film on this awhile back that if the reader didn't get to view it might be worth the time to take a view.
These Are Services That Are Vital To The Health of The Earth The Economist Call These Externalities

American Indians use to do things, until their culture was destroyed, that had far reaching sight built firmly into their culture, how did whatever they were doing impact upon 7 generations? Would their ancestors approve, did it fall within the teachings, and how would it impact upon their children's children?

With Mitakuye Oyasin, this also meant that you took into account all of your relations, so it wasn't just the two legged that was factored in, how did this impact the world around that included the rivers, the trees, the animals so on and so forth. Boy, did Dominant Culture have to get rid of that thinking, so remove that type of thinking, kill them, devalue them as persons, call them savages, move them far away, anything, but don't let that thinking rub off on those who were already indoctrinated from Europe.

The American Indians would of advanced, but in a slower pace, as they didn't require so much material items and it would of been done with using renewable fuel sources to gain more comforts against the elements. I do know hemp would of been a big product to make many products. Those attached to my messages I send out, on the last one I placed on a photo of Henry Ford's Hemp Car. It ran on hemp ethanol, the body was made of 100% hemp plastics that was 10 x's stronger than steel. (no mining for hemp) But hemp was made illegal in 1937 due to the potential damaging effects of many powerful industries at the time; oil, plastic, and the paper giants of the day. Is why they made hemp a "felony" and how many got life or large amount of time in prison simply because they had some marijuana (hemp) on them. This war of drugs has been a war on people to in fact keep the industry of fossil fuels in money. Again, mining our minds to keep this system in place.

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Friday September 19, 2014, 8:52 am

Spot on, Bruce -Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine" proved right once again!

Being under 'Russia's boot' may not be a desirable place to be, but look at what the West offers!!

What do you do if you like neither Putin nor Monsanto?????

Yes, Dandelion, I recall very well coming across "the Great Law of the Iroquois Confederacy," which says, "In our every deliberation, we must consider the impact of our decisions on the next seven generations." I was stunned by the wisdom of taking into account future impacts of every decision on 7 generations to come & the fact that a view so wise has been so totally dropped in today's world of aggressive immediacy.

"The first mandate to the Haudenosunee Iroquois chiefs is to ensure that their decisions are guided by consideration of the welfare and well-being of the seventh generation to come. Wow, to the seventh generation to come! If we consider 25 years per generation, the Iroquois mandate is to look 175 years down the road, which is well beyond any humans lifetime, far beyond any direct contact for the impact of what we do today." ["The Iroquois have a constitution not unlike our own with which they governed the Iroquois nation for hundreds of years before the American Constitution was written. And the settlers considered them savages."] ("What Is The Seventh Generation?")

I'll come back later to respond to other points here, from Dandelion & Ros.

Sheryl G (359)
Friday September 19, 2014, 10:58 am
Some of the Founding Fathers met with the people of the Iroquois Nation. Benjamin Franklin was one who was in fact extremely impressed by their governance, as was John Hancock. Later on so did James Madison, James Monroe, and Thomas Jefferson.

I placed a story onto C2 for our July 4th that was titled The Story Behind The Story. Wherein it explains this, but not only did Ben Franklin and the others go to the Iroquois Nation but the Chiefs of the day were invited to stay in Independence Hall and help these Founding Fathers with setting up the Government we have today.

All except one thing was taken into consideration..........the women!

If you look at the little film of 5 minutes I placed on, you will see that our Supreme Court, that rules over us all and in fact today with mostly men in it, are making terrible decision we all must live with. But the equivalent in the Iroquois Nations to the Supreme Court was the Woman's Counsel. Whereby, after the young men had a discussion, it would go to the Elder men to modify or leave it as is, or kick it back to the young men to think of better ways to do whatever it was. Then it was sent back to the Elder Men at which time they would finalize it and send it to the Women........who had final say. Yes, this was a good plan, no it wasn't. If no it wasn't then it would not happen.
The Great Law The Story Behind The Story Just 5 Minutes Long But a Wealth of Information

So, by our Founding Fathers forgetting the Founding see what a mess we have for nothing is in balance and the women in this Country didn't even have the right to vote until 1921 and still even to this day, their numbers are fewer in positions of power be it in Government or in Private Industry.

This is why as a lot of men do business they never consider their impact upon "Mother" or the Externalities as it's referred to, a nice word to disassociate from. Sort of like the terms "neutralized" or "collateral damage" for killing other human beings, or "food insecurity" to replace the word "hunger". Another thing they have done is re-termed the Food Stamp program to call it SNAP short for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. You see it's only a Supplement, they obviously have food to begin with, it supplemental nutrition, giving them a bit extra; when it actuality it IS all they have to eat......and notice the word "food" was taken right out of it.

You see, Native Americans always realize that words do have power so if you use the word hungry or that a family is near starvation, that is powerful, people see an image in their mind. But when you say, food insecure or SNAP what image does that bring to mind?

Or when a family with small children were killed with a drone strike there is a different image in a persons mind when they hear or read collateral damage. What, perhaps some buildings nearby fell? It is antiseptic word that allows these ruthless policies to continue on, allowing people to continue to go hungry or to be in fact murdered.

Words have Power......and the Heartless Greedy Ones.......they KNOW this. Is why they change the words. Is why they keep women, as much as they can, oppressed around the world. Is why the right wing is chipping at our rights here in the USA, making it harder to obtain voter ID's, because most women change their name at marriage and if your name used today isn't what your birth name was you don't get a Voter ID.

Many women are having to jump through hoops, finding lost or destroyed records of divorce and/or marriage documents and such. Taking control over our own bodies, and it isn't just abortion, they are trying to make it illegal to get birth control. Keep having those babies women, you'll have no time to go to college, study, work, hold public office, or anything else a woman might want to do. Don't trouble the mind over world events is too many children at home to cook, clean and keep up with. Just let us, all powerful men do all this "other" stuff, just keep quiet, stay at home and mind the children; and if you question it, we have this book to tell you where your place is. You don't want to go "against" God do you? You might go to Hell, you wouldn't want that. They play the fiddle and unfortunate too many dance the tune. Women's words have power so take the power from them. That is all that it is.....the Greedy Heartless Ones and their Power Trips.....costing us all.

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Friday September 19, 2014, 3:10 pm
Thanks for your thoughts & links, Sheryl.

First I watched the video on US Founding Fathers -Monroe, Jefferson, Madison- being influenced & inspired by Native American Iroquois' forms of good governance, going to meet with Iroquois leaders to discuss good governance.

Now I have just heard a WONDERFUL statement by geneticist/activist David Suzuki on the other video you linked to: "Conventional economics is a form of brain damage." I am now going to go to bed happy in my head with the perfection of that statement & with the knowledge that David Suzuki is out there & he's probably said lots of other great things that I'll discover in the coming days -- there are a few videos of him speaking on YouTube & I'm glad to see he's anti-GMOs! He also has a foundation, apparently based in Toronto, where I believe he lives & works.

Sheryl G (359)
Saturday September 20, 2014, 6:09 pm
Yes, David Suzuki is one of Canada's bright and compassionate minds. He has been standing up against this insanity for a long time. I'm glad you were able to get something from both videos. Thank you for all your links you've presented as well. I'll be looking them all over.....had a fundraiser I was helping on in the local area for the Prison Industrial Complex.

Past Member (0)
Saturday September 20, 2014, 10:04 pm
I am reminded of a video I saw recently entitled, "Suzuki's clueless" Apparently, he didn't do so well during the Q & A portion of his performance when confronted by scientists.
(SEE:'s-clueless/2695393091001 )

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Sunday September 21, 2014, 6:19 am
Let me warn everyone that Brian is PRO-GMO. His comments seems non-partisan & 'objective' and he doesn't come out & say that he's pro-GMO, it's rather more ambiguous, insidious, really but I've already got him to shed his calculated veil & admit which side he's on here.

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Sunday September 21, 2014, 6:21 am
This was on another thread, a different post. And my instinct led me in the right direction -- not to be mislead by a 'seemingly' non-partisan stance from someone who, in fact, is advocating FOR GMOs.

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday September 21, 2014, 12:06 pm
Brian hasn't been hiding that fact, he is posting news as Pro-GMO. He and I agree in many areas but not on that.

Sheryl G (359)
Monday September 22, 2014, 6:28 am
Over here there is in fact ways for them to slip through the rules. They look for every loophole. I recall when the people started to make a shift from white bread to wheat bread as they learned it was better for them. So here becomes more wheat bread on the grocery shelves, but then, it was found out that it only had "some" wheat in it, that actually it was still pretty much made as white bread. So labels were pushed to say 100% wheat bread then that was fully wheat otherwise if it just said wheat.....well that only meant "some" wheat was in it.

This trickery goes on over and over again to the masses here and there are all sorts of loopholes even the so called "organic" stores are doing. So unless you buy from a small independent farmer that you can stand and talk to or watch his fields and see how he feeds and treats his cattle, chickens, and hogs you don't truly still in fact know if it's fully organic or not.

Brian also does agree in Climate Disruption (change) so that part he and I agree upon, however he is also a believer in Nuclear Energy to help us get away from fossil fuels. I can't do Nuclear Energy either and have spent most my life standing up against that, everything from laying in the road to prevent the cooling towers from being installed in my twenties, to fundraising events, making speeches and even ended up on the front cover of a magazine as well as the Boston Globe from my activist actions of many years. You don't replace one problem with another problem and after Three Mile Island, Chernobyl and Fukushima how many more examples do people in fact need?

Angelika R (143)
Sunday October 5, 2014, 4:25 pm
Signed all there was, thx Jill. No surprise at all here.. Jim Steve said it all pretty well !
I wish someone would have shot the lobbyists from overseas the first day they entered Brussels and bought "our representatives"- now all we can do is shoot the whole bunch, including the Brussels criminal cartell.
Get out the pitchforks people!

Angelika R (143)
Sunday October 5, 2014, 4:31 pm
I read and posted early on about this whole background and corporate interests in Ukraine-but propaganda from Wash and complicit MSM was too strong, few would believe me. By now, the death toll this war has taken exceeded that of the most recent Gaza war, over 3000! But most are still not getting the picture and believe the lies.

Angelika R (143)
Sunday October 5, 2014, 4:39 pm
"Where injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty"- Thomas Jefferson
That is the reason for the war in East Ukraine where the so called "Separatists" reject the junta govt in Kiev and rightly so. These along with huge parts of the population smelled the rat early on.

Angelika R (143)
Sunday October 5, 2014, 5:15 pm
The Ecologist also had a number of articles out back then, so did Consortiumnews, often picking up from them.
This is what I posted back in March: Corporate Interests Behind Ukraine Putsch
Big Ag and the energy sector are the two main exploiters of course... poor Ukrainians! The Project for the New American Century is forced upon them.

Angelika R (143)
Monday October 6, 2014, 4:29 am
Here's two Qs/points for Sheryl:
1. -please explain to me the difference of "white" and wheat bread-? white IS wheat, did you perhaps meant to say rye instead? (I've NEVER eaten white/all wheat bread, was raised on and still consume only dark bread, whole grain rye.
2. about Brian and nuke energy: you should also note that what he is advocating is NOT conventional nuclear technlogy as it has been used previously.

Angelika R (143)
Monday October 6, 2014, 6:43 am
Here's yet another ACTION TO TAKE that I urge you all to sign if you've not already:
SAY NO TO CETA ! (click button to get to the action)
That's to make sure this won't go unnoticed.
From the petition:

At present, the EU Fuel Quality Directive bans the import of tar sand oil. That will change with the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) being negotiated with Canada. CETA would give multinational corporations unprecedented power to sue governments and undermine effective environmental and climate policy. CETA will not only open Europe’s door for tar sand oil, BUT ALSO FOR GENETICALLY MODIFIED CROPS AND FRACKING!

LucyKaleido ScopeEyes (82)
Tuesday October 7, 2014, 5:40 am
Me, too!
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