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More Realities about the 'Oppression of Muslim Women' in the eyes of the western world. Important views and opinions of American Muslim Women ,which do represent majority of muslim women throughout the World. Amazing Facts and Truths discussed herein.


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patricia lasek (317)
Wednesday November 10, 2010, 12:58 pm
I have no problem with Muslim women's style of dress if they choose it. I do, however, have a problem with the veil if they do not properly identify themselves when getting on an airplane. does a passport photo show her wearing the hijab or does it show her face?

Elderberry T (201)
Wednesday November 10, 2010, 5:20 pm
Tx Mary

Matloob ul Hasan (81)
Wednesday November 10, 2010, 6:53 pm
Noted, thanks.

Matloob ul Hasan (81)
Wednesday November 10, 2010, 7:49 pm
The Non-Muslim Hijabi: Why wear Hijab?

Matloob ul Hasan (81)
Wednesday November 10, 2010, 7:51 pm

Abo r (107)
Wednesday November 10, 2010, 7:57 pm
wonderful Mary, well done thanks. Noted

Parsifal S (99)
Wednesday November 10, 2010, 8:26 pm
Thx Mary

Riyaz R (45)
Wednesday November 10, 2010, 9:58 pm
Noted...Nice Job...
They cannot kept Reality below Carpets for Long............

H Nick H (1826)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 12:22 am
Thanks for sharing. If someone wants to cover their face and it's their choice, I"m OK with it. But, when it makes it so they can't be identified, especially in this day of age, then it concerns me. Makes me suspecious as to their intentions. I suppose if I pulled a black ski mask over my face and came to their home, they might not like it. People need to look at things from another's point of view.

So, when someone covers their face (for what ever reason), it is not good. Scary would be a better word. I could just see the response of me walking in a bank, or court house, while wearing a ski mask. We have to have comprimises in some areas. Now, if they are going into their place of worship, then they can cover themselves as much as they want, cause it would be the normal thing there. Just wanted to share my point of view.

Rose B (141)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 12:33 am
A great story

Mary P (157)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 1:27 am
Patricia, thanks for your comments. Yes the passports do have their faces showing, without the veil, as far as i know.

Thanks to Parsifal, Matloob, Abu Ahmed, Riyaz and Nick for your comments.

THANKS to ALL to those who have NOTED this article.

Mary P (157)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 1:28 am
Rose and Elderberry, Thank you for your support. You are awesome.

Veronica G (108)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 3:15 am
In Nick's comment he makes a valid point; it is about perception and the wearing of a veil in secure places such as airports is not realistic and can be misinterpreted. Thank you for the article.

Fiona O (562)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 3:55 am
I like Patricia see no problem with Muslim women's choice of cllothes. Like Patricia something has to be done so individual Muslim can indentify themselves when needed. I have always been concerned about :"honor killings".

Kris B (136)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 7:24 am
I enjoy learning about other people and cultures. It shows that we are all related and share the same deep feelings. No two people are exactly alike so diversity is the norm.
Here in Costa Rica we can not enter a bank with a hat or sunglasses. That is just the way it is. The guard has to see your face or you can not come it. there are times when one needs to identify.
Thanks for posting.

Sharon Balloch (127)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 9:59 am
I personally see nothing at all wrong with the head scarf... many are quite beautiful.. I do not actually know anyone who sees anything wrong with them. Nor have I ever heard anyone speak against them personally.
But I am sure that someone has or there would not be all this talk about them. Got to be one in every bunch I guess... as far as I am concerned there is no difference between a Nuns habit and a Muslims head scarf, both hide the hair but not the face and both is done to please the Lord.... each to their own as far as I am concerned.


Past Member (0)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 10:16 am
Thank you Mary for sharing with us this Video. I'm with the right of everyone to choose their dress, and wear anything they want.

Paige G (10)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 10:58 am
Interesting video. Thank you for that perspective.

Jaclin S (230)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 11:54 am
No one has the right to demand that another - especially another whose mode of dress is steeped in their religious beliefs and way of life what to wear and what not to!!! - this business of the veil is nonsense and just a panic button pple are insisting on pushing . NONE OF ARE HERE ON THIS EARTH TO LIVE UP TO ANY OTHER'S EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT WE SHOULD OR SHOUYLD NOT BE OR DO!!! WE ARE ALL FREE TO CHOOSE AND WE ALL HAVE OUR RIGHTS !!! How would you who demand such things of the Muslim Women like to be told what to wear and what not to wear??? Goodness me what an uproar there would be then I am sure. Peace & Harmony and may thanx Mary P for this post.

Susan Ayres-Lynch (126)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 12:51 pm
Thank you. We all need to be more tolerant.

Judith C (159)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 12:57 pm
noted, good informative video

Mary P (157)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 1:21 pm
Jaclin - I share your sentiments that no one has a Right to impose
Restrictions and force Muslim women to do away with their veils. The
Western world boasts about their own rights to freedom of choice Yet
They try to enforce their own views on muslim women. People should
Learn to "Live and Let live" and FOCUS on more urgent matters
Of the world instead of a small piece of face covering (can hardly
Hide a AK47 ); makes me wonder how cum there was no OUTCRY
When people started wearing MASKS due to fear of spread of swine flu.
Such double standards are the norms in the western world. Pick
And choose what/ who they wish to harass and tolerate. Recently
Muslims and Islam has been unjustly targeted.

Ricardo C (66)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 2:09 pm
Voluntary use I accept. Involuntary NO! Involuntary means controlled!

Vladimir Tarlo (50)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 2:19 pm
Islamic religious fanatics do not want that Muslim women would be free from satanic Islamic religious fanatism and Devil's laws.

Past Member (0)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 2:35 pm
I personally don't care what these women choose to believe, choose to wear, or how they choose to live. If they are doing no harm to others they can live how they please. No one in this country is forcing them to do anything different except when it comes to a US workplace, the safety of other US citizens, or US law. Well I am sorry but that is a different matter. If they truly believe they should not be subject to the same rules and laws as any other US citizen, then they can choose to live in a majority Muslim country where they shouldn't have any of these problems.

greenplanet e (155)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 2:43 pm
There's still a lot of abuse to women in Western countries.

Misogyny needs to be addressed wherever it is found. Abusive men need to self-regulate to stop abusing, wherever they are.

It's good to counteract stereotypes of Muslim women and society, ty.

Kim O (396)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 3:16 pm
Thanks Mary and Qais!! I think they should get to wear whatever they want!!

Gloria H (88)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 4:43 pm
How do you do bank transactions wearing one? Do you need to show your face to only women tellers? just wondering.

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 4:53 pm
Thank you for this video. As with everything Education is the key. People fear what they do not understand. As one who has American Indian heritage, I can more than relate to the Imperialistic standards being applied. We were after all "savages" according to those who came to this Continent due to the fact we did not dress the same.

Little thought or concern was given to the American Indian that they had a vibrant and wonderful culture that highly respected the environment, was one of sharing, compassion, women were equal to the men and in some Nations they were the ones who made major decisions, at the same time the women who came across the land could not vote, nor own property, and had little say in matters.

Now there is a push to restore a better way of living on this land via clean fuels, recycle so on and so forth, after the newcomers have polluted, killed animals to extintion or near so, have brought disease, alcohol, and cultural conditions of greed that was unheard of. We were forbidden to practice our spiritual ways, told not to speak our language, had our way of life stolen all in the name of progress, and yet we were the "savages"?

It is very hard when one culture of people believe their way is the only way. So is good you place this video on here. Can get others to maybe at least "think" about things.

John Williams (36)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 6:39 pm
Read and noted.

Wendye K (58)
Thursday November 11, 2010, 8:02 pm
Noted. Thanks.

Ruadha S (6)
Friday November 12, 2010, 12:16 am
I have no problem with style of dress (or Muslim religion). But as Nick points out, you can't go around with a black ski mask over your face without suspicion.
Humans still rely on faces adding meaning to words.That's why so much communication still occurs face-to-face,either in person or via web cam. I might conduct later business over the phone, but not first contact.,
Mary--"a small piece of face covering can hardly hide a AK47"---no, but how do you describe this person to a sketch artist? Call me paranoid (yeah, go ahead, I AM paranoid!), but with only the eyes uncovered how do you know this person is a Muslim or even a woman? Crimes have been committed by people in nun habits--who really LOOKS at a nun?
And Kris in Costa Roca---no hats or sunglasses worn in banks should be an international law. Never thought of that but it sure makes sense!

Marianna Molnar (9)
Friday November 12, 2010, 3:08 am

barbara n (10)
Friday November 12, 2010, 3:35 am
Scarf on the head is ok, modest clthes ok., but veiled faces are not, and be sure that they wear their clthes because THEY CH OOse it. On the other hand al we see around, in magazines, posters, TV, whwew womwn are reduced to legs, breasts and nates is not less humiliating for a woman.

Mary P (157)
Friday November 12, 2010, 7:25 am
Dandelion - "As with everything Education is the key. People fear what they do not understand. "

Thank you. I totally agree with you ,and many peoples views often depict their ignorancy and fear.

Ruadh - "Crimes have been committed by people in nun habits--who really LOOKS at a nun? "
Yet nuns are not harassed and under suspicion, like muslim women are.

Barbara n - " Scarf on the head is ok, modest clthes ok., but veiled faces are no"
Thankfully its just 'Your ' opinion ,which is irrelevant to those that wish to don a veil out of their own choice.

Gloria - "How do you do bank transactions wearing one? Do you need to show your face to only women tellers? just wondering"

Fortunately many banks respect different cultures and allow the veiled muslim womens faces to be identified by female staff, before a transaction is made. A little tolerance and courtesy goes a long away in maintaining and securing good relationships with potential customers.


Past Member (0)
Friday November 12, 2010, 11:40 am

Marta B (45)
Friday November 12, 2010, 7:00 pm
Thanks Mary

Victoria B (36)
Saturday November 13, 2010, 8:45 am
One hopes that all women, from whatever culture they come from, can feel free.


José Ovidio Pérez Morel (50)
Saturday November 13, 2010, 6:41 pm
Thanks, watched and shared...............

Jelica R (144)
Sunday November 14, 2010, 1:19 pm

Thank you, Mary, for very informative videos today.

I was asked to take off my sunglasses in the bank, and to cover my shoulders in a church, in the same street.

As Mark Twain said: traveling is the best cure for prejudice.


Kathy Javens (104)
Monday November 15, 2010, 7:48 am
Very enlightening. But they are who they are and I for one do not think that the way they choose to dress makes them inferior in any way. Anybody who thinks they are inferior, I have somrthing for you: it is called "educate yourself". Women are women are women all over the world.

Mary P (157)
Monday November 15, 2010, 9:48 am
Kathy thank you. Women are women. The people of the world should start practicing "LIVE and
LET LIVE". Its 'double standards' to stand up against FORCED cover up of muslim
Women but impose restrictions of clothing items on muslim women, themselves..

Grace Adams (43)
Tuesday November 16, 2010, 4:08 am
I really don't mind Muslim women looking like Mary the mother of Jesus or a Roman Catholic nun. It is certainly an improvement over huge display of cleavage. Practically all the Muslim women I see around here leave their faces visible. There is a guy black and probably no particular religion who walks around with his face almost completely covered all the time--something about a birthmark. You can't help wondering how he can manage to see well enough to keep from running into things.

Past Member (0)
Friday June 17, 2011, 11:22 am
Oppression of women is well and alive right here in the U.S. You've got Playboy telling women that they are like rabbits. Oh wait, Hefner's exact words were, "A girl resembles a bunny." Then you've got half naked women on almost every magazine cover, but to no one's surprise, no half naked men! You've got the likes of Jenna Jameson teaching women "how to make love like a porn star", because "being in the industry" makes her a "role model for women."

Such a shocker that when a women voluntarily covers herself to emphasize not her looks but her intellect and her knowledge and her ideologies, she is suddenly labeled oppressed. Even though in her mind, she is saying no to the very oppression that plagues so many of her kind.

It is no longer only male chauvinist pigs holding women back, but so are female chauvinist pigs. Women who claim to understand feminism and are only liberating themselves. How? By trying to be like a man, thus creating equality. Notice the "like a man" part? Why should a woman strive for this to be equal? Why can't she be herself, a woman?

This is a long long problem that may seem complex, but really is not. I think many women have forgotten the battles of second wave feminist..or they simply don't understand them.

Anyway, thank you for the video, Mary!

*Quotations are from Ariel Levy's Female Chauvinist Pigs. A MUST read for both women and men.
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