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Top 4 Victories Handed to Corporate America By the Supreme Court -- So Far


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: abuse, constitution, corruption, dishonesty, elections, ethics, freedoms, government, politics, SupremeCourt )

Bonnie
- 3047 days ago - alternet.org
"Judicial activism" is way too tame a phrase for what Chief Justice Roberts & Co did here. This was a coup -- a plotted overthrow to enthrone corporate political interests.



   

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Jae A (316)
Saturday February 19, 2011, 5:06 pm
I couldn't understand at the time why people weren't out in the streets screaming foul when the SC Justices gave Corporates the green light to buy up all the politicans. I gave up on yelling about this alone for months now. At least more people woke up to what all they've done along with the coup. They gave us Dubya Bush and then they gave us a corporate government...time we gave them the boot. This life time stuff is not going to work obviously nor are their get richer buddy deals at the tax payers expense. Start at the top...with the SPJustices...and kick butts all the way back down the profit chain of judges and their side kick politicians and corporate bosses. Might be too late but something has to at least be tried to stop their greed/madness/antiAmerican/anti Democracy actions.

I will stop here as this just makes my pressure go out of sight thinking about these scum bags and how they've sold our nation out to the highest bidder...foreign corporations can buy up politicans just as easily as American ones now. Smell the dust as they taken all the roses for their own people.
 

Marco C (31)
Saturday February 19, 2011, 5:20 pm
I'm with you on that Jae.....all the way down the profit chain. We don't have to look oversea's to find folks undermining our countrymen and our values.
 

Kit B (276)
Saturday February 19, 2011, 6:07 pm

I knew things were bad, hell we all know that but this article brings it all home. It ties some of the worst possible affronts to a democratic process sharply into focus. From their interference in lawsuits like Ledbetter-v-Goodyear, to the most despicable act of naming corporations to person hood, this Supreme Court is out of control. That there is and has been a clear plan is not really open to question or discussion. The debate needs to focus on what we will decide to do about the horrendous abuse of power. We need to get the media to shine a bright light on this egregious abuse of office and be sure we elect leaders willing to take on task of bringing them down.

The author does pose a brilliant question with the paragraph about the tea party. Where are they? Why are they not addressing the smashing and bashing of the constitution?
 

Toni C (508)
Saturday February 19, 2011, 6:31 pm
Why doesn't this freaking surprise me??? I still say it should be changed to where they can no longer be appointed... they need to be elected by the PEOPLe and have term limits... the way it's set up now, it's too easy for them to abuse their power.
 

Toni C (508)
Saturday February 19, 2011, 6:35 pm
Jae and Kit, I tried to give you both green stars, because you certainly deserve them, but I've already given you one this week.
We don't have to worry about foreign terrorists... we have greedy, corporating loving enemies right here at home and they're going to bring our downfall if something isn't done to change the tide.
 

Kathy B (106)
Saturday February 19, 2011, 7:31 pm
Where is the Tea Party on this? Judging from the fact that the house has chosen to leave the subsidies to coal, oil and agriculture intact in their budget cuts, my guess would be they're just fine with this.
 

Dotti L (85)
Saturday February 19, 2011, 9:03 pm
Why do they call this the Supreme Court?? Nothing supreme about this.
 

Ralph R Sutton (56)
Saturday February 19, 2011, 9:26 pm
I think they should be subject to the same public approval that many states have in their constitutions. Here in Kansas state supreme court judges are subject to an approval vote in elections. If a judge fails to get approval by the public in the election that judge can be removed from the court. It has happen here and I think we need a constitutional amendment to put Supreme Court judges to the same reaffirmation.

That is a great idea, Kit, but how do you propose we get the corporate owned media to even consider discussing this issue?
 

Mac R (289)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 12:42 am
Jae said pretty much everything I have to say about this.
 

patricia lasek (317)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 7:23 am
It sickens me.
 

Esther Z (94)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 8:11 am
I wonder if Wisconsin's union busting, if a suit is filed, will end up in the Supreme Court. No doubt what position this court would take, which would make it victory #5 for Corporate America.
 

Arielle S (313)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 8:36 am
Nothing supreme about it indeed - unless it's supremely disgusting.
 

Allan Reid (0)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 11:21 am
At one time in our history the Supreme Court said racial discrimination was legal. A few courts later it was illegal and so it goes. The real problem is that Congress creates too many laws, and leaves them open to interpretation. Congress is the problem, not the Supreme Court who can only interpret the law-makers laws within the frameword of the Constitution. Let's keep our eye on the real problem. State and Federal law-makers. We need to create several new political parties. Spread the power, increase the gene pool.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 1:05 pm
wow it seems some folks think the courts should only deside in there favor. I do not always agree with the courts, however they are the law of the land in a country I personly like to live in. the Supreme Court is why you all have the right to make the comment you do. allan reid you put it very well
 

Phillip I (67)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 1:21 pm
"Judicial activism" seems such an inoffensive term.... Let's put away the euphemisms and call it treason. If their acts aren't a betrayal of what this country was established for, then I cannot imagine what would be. They should be disbarred, scourged (just for fun) and tried. ...and hanged, if found guilty.
 

Christa Heck (0)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 1:33 pm
50years ago when I was apllying for citizenship the judge asked me if Congress ever makes illegal laws. My respone was" frequently, but that is why we have Supreme Court. The judge said I would make a good citizen and I passed the exa. Mr. Judge, "what happens when the Supreme Court acts "illegally"?
 

Paul Elder (3)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 3:05 pm
Our country is doomed. Anyone know how to emigrate to Sweden?
 

Doug C (51)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 3:07 pm
What happens when the supreme court acts "illegally"? Why the people's friend and ally the "free" press will save the day. Not. Well they would if they were not all in the pocket of the same people who own Congress. The checks and balances so cleverly designed by the founders have been derailed by pure greed and thirst for power. Corporate rule must end, take a leaf from the book written in Egypt and being written in Wisconsin. Strike, protest, boycott, if Fox News is on the tube at your favourite establishment, turn around and leave and tell them why. Write letters to the editor, write to your elected representatives (not all are illiterate).
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 5:09 pm
I'm hoping that both political parties (as institutions) are the biggest losers, educed by outside groups funded by corporations and unions. Perhaps this is a good thing.
 

William Y (54)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 5:16 pm
These 5 justices have proven they are insane, put them in an asylum. They are also unethical when it comes to decisions that impact the rights of the common man. They are not impartial whenever they can give the max to the corporations at the expense of J Q Public.
 

Nelson B (0)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 5:30 pm
Thanks to the Supreme Court of the United States and the Republicans we now have a government "of the big corporations, by the big corporations and for the big corporations".
 

Jason T (8)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 5:47 pm
Disgusting, our judicial branch is a monstrous wreck, our legislative branch is presently screwing us all over, and our executive branch is not doing enough, and is arguably a corporate sell-out.
 

Past Member (0)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 7:58 pm
Isn't it ironic how people recruit voters (e.g. The Tea Party) under the guise of resisting the very things they end up supporting.
Seems the people would catch on...
Big government, that pushes around all us little people in the name of Freedom and Justice; championed by the Tea Party.
Big government, that raises taxes and grows the Police State & War Machine, championed by Ronald Reagan.
The crime of "Say / Do" must be recognized by the people.
Politicians are criminally lying when they "Say" one thing and "Do" another, no matter which party they belong to.
 

Barbara V (51)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 9:00 pm
I can remember as a child being so proud that Fred M. Vinson was on the dollar bill. He was Chief Justice in the 40's. Good Lord, would he turn over in his grave now if he could see what the Supreme Court has turned into: a gang of crooks anti their own countrymen, anti-democracy, anti-the United States. Either we wake up or we've had it, folks. The monsters are loose and are on a rampage.
 

Jae A (316)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 10:39 pm
When I see someone state that the Supreme Court is why we have the freedom of speech that we do I really worry and realize more than ever before that is why there are so many people voting with the GOP....they are clueless as to how our system of government works. I am amazed that some are so out of the loop education wise, that they have no idea that our freedom of speech comes from our Constitution, not the Surpreme Court.

Now...One of most precious of our rights, 5 Neocon S.C. Judges, decided to take away in 2000 ...our right to vote. They gave themselves the only votes in the land, of which five Neocon Judges votes gave our highest office in our country to Dubya bumb bunny ...who then took us into a economic spiral leaving us in the mess we are now in, big time . I felt the same dismay when people didn't riot over that...Our votes for the first time since estatblished were taken right out of our hands and few seemed to realize the importance of that at the time and probably still don't . Now they've sold our entire political system to the highest bidder...be they foreign or domestic. Next target...unions. Next, our right to protest and on down the line until they have shredded our Constitution.

What can we do ? Taking into account those who know nothing about our system nor have the desire to learn anything about it so long as they have FoxNewForTheBrainDead to tell them what to do daily...it's going to be very difficult to save their asssses as well as our own. It is clear that whatever it is.. it will not only be difficult but almost impossible if it isn't done now. Within the next few months I believe,unless it is already too late. Their take over has to snow ball quickly before more people wake up and turn off FoxfantasyNews. If big steps aren't taken now the odds of a peaceful solution may be well out of reach.
 

William Y (54)
Sunday February 20, 2011, 11:52 pm
Jae, I wonder how many of these people could vote if they had to take a quiz on US history to register? Try using the same question used by immigration for people becoming naturalized citizens. I wonder how those in congress would do. From what I've seen , not much.
 

Martha T (6)
Monday February 21, 2011, 12:33 am
NelsonB, you said it very well. When is the common person going to count for anything...?
 

Tracy G (3)
Monday February 21, 2011, 1:58 am
William, great idea! Many voters would support that without hesitation. BIG politics doesn't want voters to be informed - the game would be up if people really understood history and what is actually happening.

The trick is to keep talking, keep blogging, keep spreading the truth. Keep working to keep free press. Yes its bleak right now, but the new generation of voters is more informed simply b'c they are raised on blogging and most of the kids I talk with are pretty informed of US politics as well as world events. I feel there is hope, if we keep informing each other and doing our best to act and share what we learn, to uncover lies and promote good. The alternative to spreading truth and information is giving up and giving in, and I can't do that.
 

Alexandra Rodda (180)
Monday February 21, 2011, 4:21 am
Thank you for posting this, Jae. It is a real eyeopener.
 

Jae A (316)
Monday February 21, 2011, 4:29 am
First, to clarify something I said above, in a round about way :-). Those who do not know the answers or have wrong ones such as where our freedom of speech comes are not all necessarily Neocons/Repubs but their chances of being so are more than very favorable odds, as that is who the Repubs/Neocons target due to their easily being led and feed misinformation. If I 'd not learned the 'answers' or have the understand of how our government works,basically what the Constitution ..Bill of Rights etc. say then as an adult I feel I have learned something when I hear it on a radio or Tv station , shall I say, such as FoxFakeNews...the master of misinformation. That makes leaves that person only one choice from then on as a member of that feeding of misinformation but still a part of something larger than myself. That one choice...either with or against...wrapped securly in 'division'. Hard mindset to bring 'understanding' to them in order to see what the real facts and choices j,much less change their views by that time. Theirs no need to. They are not alone and they feel protected in their mindset as part of a larger mass identity group to ease their over all fears..... so ....they stay divided as one 'governmental/political uneducated/misinformed group. Being highly educated or even at genus level without the education/understanding of those two fields govt./politcal...one can still qualify for that group of misinformed easy to minulate political group/movement....which today is a Corporate one on the right side of things and by vurture of new corporate paychecks that were first offered to only the Repubs. in large amounts.. the left has just about been purchased as well. . Highest bidder, thanks to the Supreme Court, takes all. All ,of course, is just my opinion and or maybe food for thought for some others.

I love your idea William. Even if it were so basic of a test but one that would no longer excuse anyone from not at least knowing the basics, well that would be a giant leap over all for our voting system. A seperate night course or whatever for those turning 18 for starters..being right away. Then as those already in the voting system have a little time to prepare for their 'test date' everyone can be tested , validated, certifiable to vote :-) . The time from one Fed. election to the next would be adequate time for that for the rest to be tested. Having accomplish a worthy goal in just four years time.
This however is something that none of the politcal power on either side would want...well maybe the old democrats,those who held office prior to the current offices being held who have been corporate bought at this time , would have gone for it were they still in office. With that in mnd ...how to get this past into law would have to be started, I am guessing, at the local levels... by the of up and coming, none corporate purchased politicans to be who are trying to enter the politcal arena. Then on to state and by then the Fed. level might not be so out of reach. Problem is...is there time ...for that chain of action and or goal, to be reached if started today ?
 

Bon L (0)
Monday February 21, 2011, 5:00 am
Thanks for the info.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday February 21, 2011, 5:13 am
well jae first of all the count backs up our rights also do you have a ba or masters or a phd ? I am just wondering what makes you right in you mind. I see you love fox news so do tell us and show us the proof of all this misinformation. Its easy to sit back and say anything you like, thank god we have a Constitution that protects your right to do so. I wonder why live in the us if you think everything is so bad
 

Nancy C (806)
Monday February 21, 2011, 6:35 am
thanx for pros and cons all...there IS much work to be done...power and greed should not rule our days
 

Patricia H (0)
Monday February 21, 2011, 6:51 am
The worst part is that Americans are mostly unconscious about what is going on. What will it take to wake them up? What will get us ALL into the streets?
 

Jae A (316)
Monday February 21, 2011, 5:06 pm
Scott r, I'm sorry to not have replied to your questions and request for proof, so far today... At this moment I don't have the needed time to do so properly but I want to let say that I will a.s.a.p. Limited time for myself at my computer today but the time I have I am trying to 'play catch-up' but this one will take more time than some of the comments/reply's that I am doing and hope to do this evening on as many threads as I have time for in that 'catch up ' effort. In short , I wanted to let you know that I've read your last comment and that I am not ignoring it...just limited in time currently and that I will return to post my reply later.

Patricia I think what is happening in Wisconsin may be the start of the answer you ask..I guess we will just have to wait and see if that is the case or not. I know that Mac and myself plan to do that very thing tomorrow night at the capital here in Salk Lake City to join in and show our support for the protesters in WIsconsin...regardless of our fridgid tempatures here currently. The history taking place in Wisconsin at this time is prompting more and more people to take to the streets and perhaps soon they will be doing so for many other reasons in more and more cities across the nation. As the saying goes.."only time will tell"..and I don't think we'll have to wait too long to know if this is to be the case or not.
 

Jae A (316)
Monday February 21, 2011, 6:46 pm
...ooopps....make that....''Wissonsin maybe be the start of an answer to the question you ask". I must stop being in such rush when typing.

[Note to 'self' : Take a tote..take a nap...run around the block,or in my case walk around it...do someing to help U chill out and slow it all down ..! ]
 

Jae A (316)
Monday February 21, 2011, 6:48 pm
[Well the corrections attempt above only seem to have brought forth new ones...yep , time to slow it down. Sorry for the interruption everyone.
 

Charlene Rush (2)
Monday February 21, 2011, 8:06 pm
I agree with you Jae A. I don't understand, either, why we weren't out in the streets protesting the decisions of the Supreme Court.
What will become evident, is that our Supreme Court, will be perceived as a partisan court and not a court for all the people.
They perform, as if they are bought, as are our politicians.

I matured, believing that they were truly, FAIR and HONEST. JJ
How, silly I am.
 

Jae A (316)
Tuesday February 22, 2011, 5:17 am
I am not sure what a master or phd in anything has any bearing on this topic or anything I've given my opinion on Scott. If any answer yes will you then ask to see proof of such degree ? If I say no, how can that change what my opinion is on any topic or how I view your opinion. Not that it matters I have no master degree or phd . I dropped out of college my Jr. year . Regardless of any of that I don't think either are required in order to comment on thread topics here on care2. I am not sure if there are sites that require one does in order to post comments or not. The thought has never crossed my mind to there being any who do. I also don't think a certified university degree gives one an edge over that of self taught/home schooled and or learning by experiencing..only the plaque that one can hang on a wall showing that a person completed their studies in whatever field they choose to do so in is often the only difference as to how someone acquired their education. To me learning should continue long after a earned diploma/degree etc. as well as without those. I have read about and heard from one media or the other that here are persons in prisons [as well as on the outside probably] that have min. formal educations who could pass 'the bar exam' tomorrow without ever attended a university/college etc. I will not ask if you have a masters degree or a phd ...as I fell it is still nothing to do with the topic or your opinion no differently than my own. I however do hope your answer would be a no also, for if it is yes...well then you will have proved some of my points from above. So again I say...what is the point of that question and how does it relate to the topic or anything I've said. An opinion,which can sometimes be based on observation as much as it can from any other source. Whatever the source it is just that ...an opinion. I often try to use the words..'I think' or 'in my opinion' when posting on threads but not always. Many find that a given when posting comments but I do try and do so now and then as a reminder to some who might think that comments should perhaps all be direct quotes from one media source or the other. Often times sources are given when a special topic has provided the opportunity for someone to post their 'news source' from where they have formed their opinion from. I have already listed some of those that confirm for myself the misinformation that FoxFixedFantacyNews bestows upon it views. That list of particulars is very long but if you insist on having some of them,over those you can find yourself from the media sources I have list above.... I will try and oblige you with when my times allows,at a later.

I find it weird that you came to the conclusion that I love FoxFakeFantacyNews as I don't recall or see above where I said anything about loving it or not . Not that you did ask but I get my news from more reliable sources...one of which is here on care2 ...but I also get much of my news from reading/watching/listening many other news media sites/sources..Reuters/The Raw Story [investigative news]......Media Matters...Fact Check...Wall Street Journal, Pew Research Center ..along with more liberal ones like the Huffing ton Post, New York Times,Democratic Underground. We watch the Rachael Maddow Show on MSNBC...and when time a couple of the others also on MSNBC...to name a few of those sources. We use to watch network channels..abc..cbs..nbc..and other cable news stations such as CNN more than we do now. We stopped our Tv cable service in favor of the Internet . Our time limitations helped us to make that choice along with the outrageous price we we were paying for years for the few hours of viewing we did each week. We now watch many of those same programs via the Internet. Mac reads 'more' on other sites such as Alternet/Truth Out/Change.org and a few others beyond what I do but he keeps me posted as to much of what addition information/discussions he finds on them as I do on those I've read that he may not have. There are other news as well as political focused sites where discussions are allowed that I will not go into...many of which are 'opinion' threads much the same as the ones on care2 are,along with the news and info they offer from around the world . Together we read/watch some of the same news media but also different ones as we can cover twice the number of media by doing so. We then can discuss those as well as the ones we read/watch that are the same. Bottom line we get our news, be it political or about anything else from a wide variety of news related media. I hope I have named enough to satisfy any curiosity about the news sources we do read/watch/listen to for our news, beside the one I mention in my comment somewhere above...the one most famous for it's misinformation.

I feel that I've taken way more than enough space away from the topic of this thread for now. I will continue with more reply as to your questions/comments in my direction later Scott r,when my time allows for that and after others have had a chance to comment on the topic so as not to distract from it more than I we both have already..'in my opinion'. If you are in a hurry for that proof you ask for you might watch/read etc. some of the media sources I listed above for some of those until I return and continue our discussion. When someone directs their comments to another on a thread..the common practice,but nothing that I know about that is 'set in stone' so ta say, is to discuss them with that person on that same thread,which unfortunately is on someone else thread other than one of yours or mine in this case. It does kind of derail the topic discussion which opens the bantering.. to refute,agree etc. something someone did say while posting an opinion on a threa. It is not uncommon on care2 for that to happen. Many of us know and or have seen this happen many times with our own two eyes :-)...for which I apologize to Bonnie for it happening on this one. Once I have answered and replied to all that Scott r has ask/comment on in my direction I will comment more on the topic of the thread itself.

I do wish to also comment back on your 'assumptioin' that you somehow pulled out of mid air as to my thinking this country is so bad. That to me sounds like a very familar tactic for distraction used by the right much of the time on threads...which is just an observation of mine as well as an opinion of mine . I will try and post that disclaimer whenever I am replying to you about something in the future if I can remember to do so if that will help you in knowing that my comments are often just that..my opinion however based.
 

Jae A (316)
Tuesday February 22, 2011, 6:11 am
...You acutally said ..: I wonder why live in the us if you think everything is so bad " which I do wish to address later on this thread. The word 'everything' leaves/gives me a lot of room for my forthcoming reply.
 

Arielle S (313)
Tuesday February 22, 2011, 6:28 am
Going to jump in here, Jae, if you don't mind - why do I live here if I think it's so bad? Well, to be honest, the thought of leaving has occurred. But then, this is my country and it used to be something I was proud of.
But somewhere along the line, it became a war machine and a place where citizens cared more about Dancing with the Stars than about what was going on. Slowly but surely our rights are being eroded, our people being brainwashed, and our lifestyle deteriorating. Instead of moving forward, we are sliding backward. All under the guise of patriotism and concern for the citizens, of course. The Supreme Court is supremely biased. The politicians do what they (and the lobbyists) want, not what the people want. The news is a joke - we are told what the powers that be want us to be told. Now it's been determined that we can no longer take care of our teachers, policemen, firefighters. Is this the same country we used to know and love? I'm with Mark Twain who when asked about civilization said: "I think it would be a good idea."
 

Sharon Karson (82)
Tuesday February 22, 2011, 1:38 pm
I hope the Goddess of Justice visits justice on these justices. I hope their terms of "service" are VERY limited.
 

Jae A (316)
Tuesday February 22, 2011, 6:52 pm
It's not the country that is bad it's those who ran it for too many years that are also in control of the House currently. What many of are doing is questioning their powers and thier decisions that got us to this crisis point as well as all that they are doing today to strip the society bare, for their greed, and to set our nation back decades;undoing all that has been accomplished society as a whole..and not just the super rich and big Corporations....to date. To question why they have put our government system in the hands of Corporates is not only a right but a must to do at this time if we love our country but will not tolerate those trying to destroy it from within.. We MUST do something to impeach or find other ways of riding our nation of these judges if we are to it save it from continuing under Corporate control.

"To question authority is a patriotic act"
http://wakeupdemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/02/to-question-authority-is-patriotic-act.html
 

Jae A (316)
Tuesday February 22, 2011, 6:55 pm
..yes few errors above like that of 'riding' instead of what it was suppose to be 'ridding'. That ..in a rush.. thing again...:-)
 

Bonnie B (103)
Tuesday February 22, 2011, 9:35 pm
You go, Jae! No apologies needed. I always hope not only to get some information out, but for lively discussions and debates to rise out of the things I post, to get people thinking about the issues the article presents.

It seems Scott thinks the Supreme Court has given us the right to speak and question what our government does...hm. Aren't schools teaching Social Studies anymore?
 

Jae A (316)
Thursday February 24, 2011, 1:34 am

I've thought about the generic question..as it was not about a specific issue to compare to show where the misinformation is given via Fox. In doing so I realized that such proof could only be done on a very broad scope that could lead to much less the time it would take to give you a wide range of examples,as most of us form our opinions over time.That is what it would take for me to show you why and where I formed my opinion as to Fox and their constant stream of misinformation. That would require a lot of recall time to find links for etc. for myself. Unfortunately I just don't have the the extra time for that.

With the above being typed... here is my counter offer as to my of being able to your question as to 'proof'. In fact some say,don't recall who so no need to ask,...that it's the best teaching/learning method known for those asking question, when they actually do want to learn the answers to them. .Start with one issue and then on to others.l The faster issue to compare fact with Fox Fiction would be that of health care reoform. Locate on the net copies of each reform bill and discussions about them from their beginning to their present day status ...read them. Once you've done that watch archives clips of random Fox 'cable news' pundits. Find some clips of Repubs on the floors of congress when they gave talks against the bills and why ..then recall what the wording in the bills actually were/are. Keep the copies of those handy as you will need to refer to them often I imagine. It's the best I can offer ya currently Scott . It is also the better way for you to discover the truth for yourself when it comes to such a large and personal scope as to where someone formed their opinion,especially without mention of one specific issue for an example in their question.
There are many examples that you can do the same thing with. After one or two the Fox spins into misinformation will soon become very obvious in a very sort time possible as they did for myself...and yes..now and then I do watch their talking heads reg. enough to know what they were and still are like in their spins...going back at least to during the Dubya Bush years in office. Their 'news' will sometimes contain enough truth once in a while but by time that truth has been said the spin goes from there and comes out more often than not as ...misinformation, in way too many cases. Who knows you might realize that the key to knowing the facts/truths can be had as long as you spread your listening/viewing news time to a variety of media news sources.I think you just might find it the only way of sifting through spin for the facts on all political issues. At least,that works for myself ..but it might not for you of course. 'Individuals do vary in how they learn and experience things best for themselves'...or that's what I've heard but don't actually have a link to who said it handy,probably never will on that one for sure, as it goes way back in my memory banks as to the summery itself from which I drew those words.

A. For starters..Heath care reform comparison
B. Variety of media news sources for the education.

Disclaimer:
All the above is,at least in part, ...maybe all of it.. my opinion only

Thank you Bonnie for being so understanding. That is also how I think about any Threads I place for open discussion. To get everyone thinking/focused on that one topic. Spin-offs of the topic sometimes happen from there and that's what often can make them as lively/informative for most of the spin offs of topic can broaden the topic being discussed. That is unless the SpinOffs become more of personal banter directed at each other and not a topic itself...but hey it happens and serves some purose in a few cases that I've seen.

I am wondering the same thing about our schools to as to their teaching Social Studies or not...also if they are still teaching Geography outside of what necessity detates be included within Social Studies. Might be like the case where History was changed for the Texas schools and they are teaching it with those unfounded and or ommited facts, which the results from 'those changes'..[not going to list those either today :-) are clearly the ol "FoxSpinNews' tactic so that these 'changes' are flowing into the minds of their students. Real shame I think.

Great topic and thread...I hope there are more comments still to come on this topic.
 

Jae A (316)
Thursday February 24, 2011, 6:07 am
Here we go Scott..around the time I was submitting my previous post this apparently was being post :

"UPDATED: Fox Reverses Poll Results To Falsely Claim Most Americans Favor Ending Collective Bargaining"
http://mediamatters.org/research/201102230006

I failed to mention the threads on care2 are also a good source for proof..many in video form...They just put it out there and later if too many yet fowl they do their ..oh that was accidental...So many to just be accidents. Anyway there a link to one of their latest misinformation spins.
 

Jae A (316)
Saturday February 26, 2011, 9:34 pm
I forgot to point out ..the fact that this is a very important issue at hand currently...and what did they do...same ol same ol. Lied about the facts. Spin spin spin until their viewers heads cave in...makes them so much easier to follow their FoxfantasyNews B.S. from that moment on.
 

Jae A (316)
Saturday March 5, 2011, 2:54 am
Fox News reporter appears to have lied about being ‘punched’ by protester
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/01/fox-news-reporter-appears-to-have-lied-about-being-punched-by-protester/
 

Jae A (316)
Monday March 7, 2011, 9:04 am
Why Fox Is Banned in Canada
http://www.care2.com/news/member/527046926/2740445

.."Canada’s Radio Act requires that "a licenser may not broadcast….any false or misleading news." The provision has kept Fox News and right wing talk radio out of Canada and helped make Canada a model for liberal democracy and freedom."...

I guess this more proof than I would have hoped to come across easy Scott. If a government believes they lie then I 'd say they have a lot of proof to ban Fox and their lies from their country.

Apparently Canada tried to protect it's citizens from the lies being broadcast.
 
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