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Nakba The Great Catastrophe

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Day of the Catastrophe is generally commemorated on 15 May, the day after the Gregorian calendar date for Israeli Independence Day, Yom Ha'atzmaut. For Palestinians, it has a different meaning... Parsifal Rain


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fly bird (26)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 7:38 am
Israel's first Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion said:

'It must be clear that there is no room in the country for both peoples … If the Arabs leave it, the country will become wide and spacious for us …

The only solution [after the end of WW II] is a Land of Israel, at least a western land of Israel without Arabs.

There is no room here for compromises … There is no way but to transfer the Arabs from here to the neighboring countries, to transfer all of them, save perhaps for the Arabs of Bethlehem, Nazareth, and the old Jerusalem.

Not one village must be left, not one [Bedouin] tribe.

The transfer must be directed at Iraq, Syria, and even Transjordan [eastern portion of Eretz Yisrael].

For this goal funds will be found …

And only after this transfer will the country be able to absorb millions of our brothers and the Jewish problem will cease to exist.

There is no other solution'

Thank you for posting Elderberry.

Catrin Schuetz-Kroehler (48)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 8:09 am
Thanks for sharing this !

Justin Vale (13)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 10:31 am
i was gonna pass this by but i saw you quoted parsifal and i knew you were wrong.
there were nly about 400,000 arabs in palestine b4 the british mandate, and about 100,000 chrstians and 100,000 jews. once the british took over arabs poured in. in the late 20's the arabs started attacks on jewish women and children.
and how can you call arabs indigenous to the levant? they're not. just like wild horses are not indigenous to the american plains or pytons to florida. this is revisionist history. you guys should stop these attacks on jews and their homeland. i agree that the germans should have payed with land and treasure t establish a jewish homeland on the rhineland, but it didn't happen. but it didn't happen and the jews are back in their ancient homeland. the arabs should move out. they had their chance with the clinton agreement and they spit in clinton's face. screw them now.

Parsifal S (99)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 11:38 am

Yep Justin Vale, if you say so...

Here's the proof you're basically wrong, as expected

Palestine in 1896

and learn history before sharing the Zionist version of of Palestine.

Palestine: Old Photos Expose Old Lying


Parsifal S (99)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 11:44 am

Or Justin Vale in order to give you the opportunity to let off steam and give the reaaders of your comment a good laugh, the real story of Palestine arrived c2 !

Palestine Old Photos Expose Old Lying

Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 12:21 pm
Sadly, many basically fair people have swallowed the false picture that has been spread around the world.

One critical question:
Why do Palestinians have to pay the price for the abuses represented by the Holocaust?

.... They didn't creat the policy towards the Jews in Europe over the centuries ... indeed, they lived side by side with them ....
.... They didn't set up and run concentration camps - the Holocaust
.... They were not guilty of the behaviour that led Jewish refugees to flee to Palestine
.... Indeed, at first, they did what they could to help and shelter the refugees who landed in their country.

Check the history books of the time (not the ones written since to justify driving out the Palestinians -
And think about how they continue to pay - whether scattered round the world, caught in refugee camps because they are stateless, or desperately trying to survive on diminishing land

Parsifal S (99)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 12:32 pm

Aloha Evelyn.
Eretz Yisrael took centuries in the making and so the both great wars 1 and 2.
The latter was financed by Wall Street and the City Of London in order to justify eternal guilt (Holocaust), indemnification and reparation (eternal because until 13th Generation, which, in the lanaguage of the Torah means forever)

The (poor) Eastern Jews were simply sacrificed and used as pawns by the 'Western' Jews.

Palestine then could be conquered as an other step for the desired 'promised Land' Greater Israel

'We Must Use Terror, Assassination, Intimidation, Land Confiscation And The Cutting Of All Social Services To Rid The Galilee Of Its Arab Population'
- Koenig Memorandum (implemented)

Henriette Matthijssen (154)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 12:56 pm
Israhell has no boundaries with it's Zionist & military! What Israhell wants, Israhell steals it! And has no conscience as to who they kill in the process. They are delusional in their thinking that they are God's chosen one. The world needs to know what has been hidden. Thanks Elberberry for sharing.

Justin Vale (13)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 4:58 pm
look at henreitte. she looks like a typical middle america housewife and you disseminators of lies and revisionist have her talking like a jihadist with an explosive vest.
you guys are wrong with your facts. and you're probably sick in the gray matter area too.

elderberry C (47)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 6:01 pm
Your last comment has been flagged...

You have shown where you stand regarding the subject take your denial & insults

elsewhere.....What about spending some time with the Palestinians in Gaza or West Bank or East



elderberry C (47)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 6:07 pm
Justin said...
"The arabs should move out" !! And you are calling us Rascists? Shame on you.....

Justin Vale (13)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 6:55 pm
if i have insulted the israeli haters on this site allow me to offer you my most heartfelt hypocritical apology.
the numbers don't add up to your calumny. do they?

elderberry C (47)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 7:08 pm
Buzz Off..The only Hater here is YOU...Troll...comment flagged.....


Abo r (107)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 7:14 pm
Palestine is for the Palestinians who were before may 1947 ( Muslims, christians , Jews " palestinian jews not the immegrants from other countries what are called at that time ( Olim Hadashem ) the rest to return from where they came from .
Palestinians will live with the christians and the Palestinian jews together as what they were before 1917 in one state .
Palestinians have the right to return to thier historical Falestine to thier houses land and pardase.
IT is time for UK to cerrect its mistake made by Belfoure who has no right to do such promise and did it with the British mandate.
Palestinians are not guilty of the Holocoust and must not pay its bill..
Palestine is an Arabian land for the Falestinians those Oolim Hadashem ( new immegrants of jews ) to return to the countries came from EU, US .. so on.
No for wars, No for killing , No for false talks for just talks .. yes for peace and live in one state .
No place for hate and hatres and racism and apparthide

Noted thanks Elderberry for posting and parsifal for the links and Henreitte for commenting.

Abo r (107)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 7:28 pm
Well said Jess b and Evelyn thanks for the comments.
I am an eyewittness with my parents on the days of the NAKBA as we were droven out from our pardase under shooting by the shtern and Hagana the jewish group soldiers who killed everyone stayed .
Will never forget DEr Yassin and other villeges and towns,
Will never forget that day and all the falestinians will never forget it , and falestinian to return .

Justin Vale (13)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 8:24 pm
and abo. could you please also never forget the peaceful jewish women and children your people killed.
do that too okay.
arab nations flooded the levant when word of a homeland for jews got out. and we're supposed to be fooled?
no. let them go back where they came from. israel is a jewish nation. a wonderful place filled with jews of all colors.
get over it.
and there is nothing you guys with all your hostile and antagonistic comments can do about it.

Wednesday May 14, 2014, 8:30 pm
Noted. Thanks Elderberry

Nancy Black (308)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 9:27 pm
Noted, tweeted, shared. Thanks Elderberry for giving me an education.I hate War as I am sure everyone does. Your article made me see another side. Truth is subjective. What one country or person considers truth; another considers it twisted and untrue. God help all of us rise above our hate, prejudice, and selfish desires. We need to work together for peace, but some how we are not doing a good job.I am literally blind in one eye, and I think most are the same. We see and accept half the truth; our truth. We are not open to compromise. Sad, but maybe someday all of us will be able to see out of both eyes and recognize truth and acceptance of compromise.

Parsifal S (99)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 9:39 pm

Justin Vale, your comments are dispensable.

Waste of time, just the usual and hatred Rottenchild pro Zionism (yawn) propaganda one can read every time in the NYT, JP or WP and the rest of the corporate media

Parsifal S (99)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 9:47 pm
Justin Vale, for the records, I flagged your comment as hate speech, personal insult and pro Zionist support'

'look at henreitte. she looks like a typical middle america housewife and you disseminators of lies and revisionist have her talking like a jihadist with an explosive vest.
you guys are wrong with your facts. and you're probably sick in the gray matter area too.'

Debra G (0)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 10:06 pm
Ah, a reliable source of information, which includes this golden nugget: Boko Haram® - A CIA® Covert® Operation®. Well, now we know where the crazies get their ideas.

Sam H (410)
Wednesday May 14, 2014, 10:11 pm
Thanks for the thread and the great comments including those by Mr. Vile. No matter how hard we try, we can never paint a clearer picture of those on Mr. Vile’s side than the one he painted himself. So thanks to you too, Justin, if I may call you so.

fly bird (26)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 12:18 am
So many good comments other than the sickening ones, I am flagging.
Justin Vale, I will dispense/dispose of your comments, they are deliberately offensive and despicable.
Thanks Sam for upholding the thread in a dignified manner

Posted - "The Arab villages lost since Israel's war of independence". interactive.

Changing landscape: click through the sequence of maps to show how hundreds of Arab villages and towns were abandoned, attacked and de-populated during Israel's war of independence in 1948 – which is still remembered by Palestinians as their catastrophe or Nakba.

Stan B (123)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 2:48 am
Justin Vale. Big green star on its way to you. You seem to be the only person on this thread, which I've flagged as unworthy, who has the slightest clue what's going on in the Israel-Palestinian conflict.
Your assessment of Henriette was pretty accurate. What you probably don't know is that she is a fan of David Duke and has posted links to his web site. The others are pretty much from the same stable.
The real Nakba actually happened to Jews who had lived peacefully in Arab countries for centuries and were kicked out for no good reason after the establishment of Israel in 1948.
Here are the figures.


Jews in 1948: 140,000. Jews in 2011: 1,500.

Jewish settlement in Algeria can be traced back to the first centuries of the Common Era. In the 14th century, with the deterioration of conditions in Spain, many Spanish Jews moved to Algeria, among them a number of outstanding scholars including Rav Yitzchak ben Sheshet Perfet (the Ribash) and Rav Shimon ben Zemah Duran (the Rashbatz). After the French occupation of the country in 1830, Jews gradually adopted French culture and were granted French citizenship.

On the eve of WWII, there were around 120,000 Jews in Algeria. In 1934, incited by events in Nazi Germany, Muslims rampaged in Constantine, killing 25 Jews and injuring many more. Starting in 1940, under Vichy rule, Algerian Jews were persecuted socially and economically. In 1948, at the time of Israel's independence and on the eve of the Algerian Civil War, there were approximately 140,000 Jews living in Algeria, of whom roughly 30,000 lived in the capital.

Nearly all of the Algerian Jews fled the country shortly after it gained independence from France in 1962. The newly established Algerian government harassed the Jewish community, confiscated Jewish property, and deprived Jews of their principle economic rights. As a result, almost 130,000 Algerian Jews immigrated to France and, since 1948, 25,681 Algerian Jews have immigrated to Israel.

According to the State Department, there is now fewer than 2,000 Jews in Algeria and there are no functioning synagogues in the country.


Jews in 1948: 75,000. Jews in 2011: 100.

Jews have lived in Egypt since Biblical times. Israelite tribes first moved to the land of Goshen, the northeastern edge of the Nile Delta, during the reign of the Egyptian pharaoh Amenhotep IV (1375-1358 BCE). By 1897, there were more than 25,000 Jews in Egypt, concentrated in Cairo and Alexandria.

The first Nationality Code was promulgated by Egypt in May 1926 and said that only those "who belonged racially to the majority of the population of a country whose language is Arabic or whose religion is Islam" were entitle to Egyptian nationality. This provision served as the official pretext for expelling many Jews from Egypt.

In 1937, the Jewish population was 63,500 but by 1945, with the rise of Egyptian nationalism and the cultivation of anti-Jewish sentiment, violence erupted against the peaceful Jewish community. That year, 10 Jews were killed, more than 300 injured, and a synagogue, a Jewish hospital, and an old-age home were destroyed. In July 1947, an amendment to Egyptian law stipulated that companies must employ a minimum of 90% Egyptian nationals. This decree resulted in the loss of livelihood for many Jews.

Israel's establishment led to further anti-Jewish sentiments. Between June and November 1948, bombs set off in the Jewish Quarter of Cairo killed more than 70 Jews and wounded nearly 200, while another 2,000 Jews were arrested and had their property confiscated. Rioting over the following months resulted in more Jewish deaths. In 1956, the Egyptian government used the Sinai Campaign as a pretext for expelling almost 25,000 Jews and confiscating their property while approximately 1,000 more Jews were sent to prisons and detention camps. In November 1956, a government proclamation declared that "all Jews are Zionists and enemies of the state," and promised that they would be soon expelled. Thousands of Jews were ordered to leave the country, allowed to take only one suitcase, a small sum of cash, and forced to sign declarations "donating" their property to the Egyptian government.

By 1957 the Jewish population had fallen to 15,000 and in 1967, after the Six-Day War, there was a renewed wave of persecution and the community dwindled to 2,500. By the 1970's, after the remaining Jews were given permission to leave the country, the number of Jews feel to just a few hundred. Today, the community is on the verge of extinction with fewer than 100 Jews remaining in Egypt, the majority elderly.


Jews in 1948: 135,000. Jews in 2011: 7.

Jews have lived in modern-day Iraq since before the common era and prospered in what was then called Babylonia until the Muslim conquest in 634 AD. Under Muslim rule, the situation of the Jewish community fluctuated yet at the same time, Jews were subjected to special taxes and restrictions on their professional activity. Under British rule, which began in 1917, Jews fared well economically, but this changed when Iraq gained independence.

In June 1941, the Mufti-inspired, pro-Nazi coup of Rashid Ali sparked rioting and a pogrom in Baghdad. Armed mobs, with the complicity of the police and the army, murdered 180 Jews and wounded almost 1,000. Although emigration was prohibited, many Jews made their way to Mandate Palestine with the aid of an underground movement.

Additional outbreaks of anti-Jewish rioting occurred between 1946 and 1949, and following the establishment of Israel in 1948, Zionism was made a capital crime. In 1950, the Iraqi parliament legalized emigration to Israel, provided that Iraqi Jews forfeited their citizenship before leaving. Between May 1950 and August 1951, the Jewish Agency and the Israeli government succeeded in airlifting approximately 110,000 Jews to Israel in Operation Ezra & Nehemiah. At the same time, 20,000 Jews were smuggled out of Iraq through Iran. A year later the property of Jews who emigrated from Iraq was frozen, and economic restrictions were placed on Jews who remained in the country.

In 1952, Iraq's government barred Jews from emigrating, and publicly hanged two Jews after falsely charging them with hurling a bomb at the Baghdad office of the U.S. Information Agency. A community that had reached a peak of 150,000 in 1947, dwindled to a mere 6,000 after 1951. Persecutions continued, especially after the Six Day War in 1967, when 3,000 Jews were arrested, dismissed from their jobs, and some hanged in the public square of Baghdad. In one instance, on January 27, 1969, Baghdad Radio called upon Iraqis to “come and enjoy the feast” and some 500,000 people paraded and danced past the scaffolds where the bodies of the hanged Jews swung; the mob rhythmically chanting “Death to Israel” and “Death to all traitors.”

As of 2008, the Jewish Agency for Israel estimated that there were only seven Jews remaining in Iraq while Baghdad's Meir Tweig synagogue, the last synagogue in use, was closed in 2003 after it became too dangerous to gather openly. The State Department reported in 2011 that anti-Semitism is still widespread in both state-owned and private media outlets and Holocaust denial is often glorified.


Jews in 1948: 38,000. Jews in 2011: 0.

The Jewish community of Libya traces its origin back some 2,500 years to the time of Hellenistic rule under Ptolemy Lagos in 323 B.C.E. in Cyrene. Once home to a very large and thriving Jewish community, Libya is now completely empty of Jews due to anti-Jewish pogroms that spurred immigration to Israel.

At the time of the Italian occupation in 1911, there were approximately 21,000 Jews in the country, the majority in the capital Tripoli. By the late 1930s, fascist anti-Jewish laws were gradually being enforced and the Jewish community was subject to terrible repression. Yet, in 1941, the Jews still accounted for a quarter of Tripoli's population and maintained 44 synagogues.

In 1942, the Germans occupied the Jewish quarter of Benghazi, plundered shops, and deported more than 2,000 Jews across the desert, where more than one-fifth of them perished. Many Jews from Tripoli were also sent to forced labor camps.

Conditions did not greatly improve following liberation and under the British occupation there were a series of brutal pogroms. One savage pogrom occurred in Tripoli on November 5, 1945, when more than 140 Jews were massacred and almost every synagogue in the city was looted. In June 1948, rioters murdered another 12 Jews and destroyed 280 Jewish homes. When the British legalized emigration in 1949, more than 30,000 Jews fled Libya.

Thousands more Jews fled to Israel after Libya became independent in 1951 and was granted membership in the Arab League. A law passed in December 1958 ordered for the dissolution of the Jewish Community Council. In 1961, a special permit was needed to show proof of being a "true Libyan" and all but six Jews were denied this document.

After the Six-Day War, the Jewish population - numbering roughly 7,000 - was again subjected to pogroms in which 18 people were killed and many more injured; the riots also sparked a near-total exodus from the Jewish community, leaving fewer than 100 Jews in Libya. When Muammar Gaddafi came to power in 1969, all Jewish property was confiscated and all debts to Jews cancelled. Although emigration was illegal, more than 3,000 Jews succeeded in leaving for Israel.

By 1974, there were no more than 20 Jews in the country, and it is believed that Esmeralda Meghnagi, who died in February 2002, was the last Jew to live in Libya. In October 2011, protests in Tripoli called for the deportation of a Jewish activist who had returned to Libya with the intent of restoring Tripoli’s synagogue. Some protesters’ signs read, “There is no place for the Jews in Libya,” and “We don’t have a place for Zionism.”


Jews in 1948: 265,000. Jews in 2011: 4,000.

Jews have been living in Morocco since the time of Antiquity, traveling there two millennia ago with Phoenician traders, and the first substantial Jewish settlements developed in 586 BCE after Nebuchadnezzar destroyed Jerusalem and exiled the Jews.

Prior to World War II, the Jewish population of Morocco reached its height of approximately 265,000, and though Nazi deportations did not occur the Jewish community still suffered great humiliation under the Vichy French government. Following the war, the situation became even more perilous.

In June 1948, bloody riots in Oujda and Djerada killed 44 Jews while wounding scores more. That same year, an unofficial economic boycott was instigated against the Moroccan Jewish community. By 1959 Zionist activities were made illegal and in 1963, at least 100,000 Moroccan Jews were forced out from their homes. Nearly 150,000 Jews sought refuge in Israel, France and the Americas.

In 1965, Moroccan writer Said Ghallab described the attitude of Moroccan Muslims toward their Jewish neighbors when he wrote:

"The worst insult that a Moroccan could possibly offer was to treat someone as a Jew ... The massacres of the Jews by Hitler are exalted ecstatically. It is even credited that Hitler is not dead, but alive and well, and his arrival is awaited to deliver the Arabs from Israel."

In early 2004, Marrakech had a small Jewish population of about 260 people, most over the age of 60, while Casablanca had the largest community, about 3,000 people. There are still synagogues in use today in Casablanca, Fez, Marrakech, Mogador, Rabat, Tetuan and Tangier.

The Jewish community now numbers between 4,000 and 5,500 and while the government is one of the most friendly towards Israel, the Jewish community is still the target of sporadic violence. On a Saturday in May 2003, for example, a series of suicide bombers attacked four Jewish targets in Casablanca, though fortunately no Jews were killed. In a show of kindness, the government subsequently organized a large rally in the streets of Casablanca to demonstrate support for the Jewish community and the king reasserted his family's traditional protection for the country's Jews.


Jews in 1948: 30,000. Jews in 2011: 100.

Jews had lived in Syria since biblical times and the Jewish population increased significantly after the Spanish expulsion in 1492. Throughout the generations, the main Jewish communities were to be found in Damascus and Aleppo.

By 1943, the Jewish community of Syria had approximately 30,000 members but In 1944, after Syria gained independence from France, the new Arab government prohibited Jewish immigration to Palestine, severely restricted the teaching of Hebrew in Jewish schools, called boycotts against Jewish businesses, and sat idle as attacks against Jews escalated. In 1945, in an attempt to thwart international efforts to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine, the Syrian government fully restricted Jewish emigration, burned, looted and confiscated Jewish property, and froze Jewish bank accounts.

When partition was declared in 1947, Arab mobs in Aleppo devastated the 2,500-year-old Jewish community and left it in ruins. Scores of Jews were killed and more than 200 homes, shops and synagogues were destroyed. Thousands of Jews illegally fled as refugees, 10,000 going to the United States and 5,000 to Israel. All of their property were taken over by the local Muslims.

Over the next few decades, those Syrian Jews that remained were in effect hostages of a hostile regime as the government intensified its persecution of the Jewish population. Jews were stripped of their citizenship and experienced employment discrimination. They had their assets frozen and property confiscated. The community lived under constant surveillance by the secret police. Freedom of movement was also severely restricted and any Jew who attempted to flee faced either the death penalty or imprisonment at hard labor. Jews could not acquire telephones or driver's licenses and were barred from buying property. An airport road was paved over the Jewish cemetery in Damascus; Jewish schools were closed and handed over to Muslims.

The last Jews to leave Syria departed with the chief rabbi in October 1994. By the middle of 2001, Rabbi Huder Shahada Kabariti estimated that 150 Jews were living in Damascus, 30 in Haleb and 20 in Kamashili. while two synagogues remained open in Damascus. According to the US State Department, there were about 100 Jews left in country as 2011, concentrated in Damascus and Aleppo. Contact between the Syrian Jewish community is Israel is prohibited.


Jews in 1948: 105,000. Jews in 2011: 1,500.

The first documented evidence of Jews living in Tunisia dates back to 200 CE. By 1948, the Tunisian Jewish community had numbered 105,000, with 65,000 living in the capital Tunis.

Tunisia was the only Arab country to come under direct German occupation during World War II and, according to Robert Satloff, “From November 1942 to May 1943, the Germans ... implemented a forced-labor regime, confiscations of property, hostage-taking, mass extortion, deportations, and executions. They required thousands of Jews in the countryside to wear the Star of David.”

When Tunisia gained independence in 1956, the new government passed a series of discriminatory anti-Jewish decrees. In 1957, the rabbinical tribunal was abolished and a year later the Jewish community councils were dissolved. The government also destroyed ancient synagogues, cemeteries, and even Tunis' Jewish quarter for "urban renewal" projects.

During the Six-Day War, Jews were attacked by rioting Arab mobs, while businesses were burned and the Great Synagogue of Tunis was destroyed. The government actually denounced the violence and appealed to the Jewish population to stay, but did not bar them from leaving.

The increasingly unstable situation caused more than 40,000 Tunisian Jews to immigrate to Israel and at least 7,000 more to France. By 1968, the country's Jewish population had shrunk to around 10,000.

Today, the US State Department estimates that there are 1,500 Jews remaining in Tunisia, with one-third living in and around the capital and the remainder living on the island of Djerba. The Tunisian government now provides the Jewish community freedom of worship and also provided security and renovation subsidies for the synagogues.

YEMEN (Aden)

Jews in 1948: 63,000. Jews in 2011: 250.

The first historical record of Jews in Yemen is from the third century CE.

In 1922, the government of Yemen reintroduced an ancient Islamic law decreeing that Jewish orphans under age 12 were to be converted to Islam.

In 1947, after the partition vote on Palestine, the police forces joined Muslim rioters in a bloody pogrom in Aden, killing 82 Jews and destroying hundreds of Jewish homes. The pogrom left Aden's Jewish community economically paralyzed, as most of the stores and businesses were destroyed.

Early in 1948, looting occurred after six Jews were falsely accused of murdering two Arab girls and the government began to forcefully evict the Jews. Between June 1949 and September 1950, Israel ran Operation "Magic Carpet" and brought virtually the entire Yemenite Jewish community - almost 50,000 people - to Israel as refugees.

In 1959, another 3,000 Jews from Aden emigrated to Israel while many more fled as refugees to the US and England. A smaller, continuous migration was allowed to continue into 1962, when a civil war put an abrupt halt to any further Jewish exodus.

Today, there are no Jews in Aden and there are an estimated 250 Jews in Yemen. The Jews are the only indigenous non-Muslim religious minority and the small community that remains in the northern area of Yemen is tolerated and allowed to practice Judaism. However, the community is still treated as second-class citizens and cannot serve in the army or be elected to political positions. Jews are traditionally restricted to living in one section of a city and are often confined to a limited choice of employment.
This is the true injustice!!!!!


AWAY AWHILE Cal M (1065)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 3:08 am
This tract won't spoil my day either Parsifal and Elderberr. Care2 is all about tolerating differences of opinions as much as possible. I am proud of Israel despite its various shortcomings as you both well know.

Sam H (410)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 3:08 am
So it’s a dream come true, Stan.

Doesn’t every Seder end with the toast, “Next year in Israel”?

Sam H (410)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 3:11 am
Good to see you, Cal!

Stan B (123)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 3:20 am
Ros G. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. Justin's comments are all valid and that's why I sent him a green star.. The post itself is unworthy. We get them regularly from this little group.

Stan B (123)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 3:31 am
Wrong again, Sam. It's "next year in Jerusalem." And guess what. That's how it's going to be whether you like it or not.

Sam H (410)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 3:37 am
So why are you complaining, Stan? Those guys got their wishes! I guess you haven't been to every Seder where either Jerusalem or Israel is used!

patrica and edw jones (190)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 4:13 am
Thanks for a great posting Stan. Ben Gurion hit the nail on the head when he said there should be a land of Israel without Arabs....since they - the Arabs - in general seem unable to live peaceably wherever they settle. As for Parsifal - we take what he says with a pinch of salt since his mind seems to be up in the clouds with 'chemtrails'and consipiracy theories.

Jonathan Harper (0)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 4:41 am

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Thursday May 15, 2014, 6:18 am

Past Member (0)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 8:46 am
Real Nakba is the disgust with which Arabs are treating their brothers from Palestine. This inner-clan hate causes Arabs from Lebanon to deny medical treatment to badly sick Arab people, just because their clan was from a different location!

The Palestinian Arab boy who died at the entrance to Lebanon Arab hospital because he was denied the treatment is the real Nakba.

Shame on the cause of that Nakba, Arab inter-clan racism.


Abo r (107)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 9:11 am

The IDF spent more than 5 years to get the Flasha to Israel and the Flasha were not beaten or killed or driven out of thier houses and thier town were not cleared from them and some one else set in instead of them and this is applied to other jews who left the Arabian countries and EU , US .. etc. , The IDF paid them money to let them immegrate to Palestine and called OOLIM HADDASHIM ( new immegrants )... and still the IDF putting its utmost to get more OOLIM HADDASHEM ...
Still there are Jews in Arab countries if what you say happened how the rest still in the other hand Shtern , Hagana the IDF forced the Falestinians to leave thier houses evacuated villeges and towns from its residentce unde shooting and who desnot leave is killed example ( Der Yassin ).
The Palestinians were in Palestine before the establishment of the IDF state on 1948 and was called Palestine
has its currency and people living in cultivating and planting the land have thier pardase and do commercial and have their birds, cows , kamels ..... so on
Jews who were about 12 % of the population and christians were living together till the Belfoure promis of giving palestine to the Jews and Britain mandade helped in forming the jewish army groups and Britsh left sudenly leaving everything to the jews weapons .. etc, to kill the palestinians as they want the land without people..
Palestinians are not guilty of the Hollocoust and must not pay its bill;


Oumar R (3)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 10:09 am
rise and fall of natural disaster predictions

we should all follow the same calender. i mean your birthday is every year so think about that or at least be prepared for national holidays / days of remmebrance

Parsifal S (99)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 10:51 am

Aloha Elderberry

What did I predict to you ?

Be prepared, the most rabid Ziosphere would try discredit the messenger.

Because the theft of Palestine by violence which enabled Zionists criminal, illegitimate and most unappetizing creation of Israel is THE fundamental vast and supressed black dot in history.
Ever !

With blood on their hands they invented the lie of an empty land which only waited to be settles, a lie, the greater can not be.
The occupation of a country by deception and brute force has but found entry in history books for the benefit of the invaders...


I ended the first part of my research with the epilogue:

'Peace will only come when this injustice canceled, terminated the oppression and the Palestinians are treated equal.

The Nakba existed, that must finally recognize Israel and the world'.

About the above nasty and/or nonrelevant, distracting comments of the desperate defenders of the occupation of Palestine:

Just watch the images, check out the videos and read the Zionists own quotes to learn more who's right and who's wrong in this issue.

How goes the old saying ?
Does the moon care when dogs bark at it !

Parsifal S (99)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 11:54 am

patrica and edw jones
Who would take you serious past your hypocrite comment:

' As for Parsifal - we take what he says with a pinch of salt since his mind seems to be up in the clouds with 'chemtrails'and consipiracy'

The below is what you've written in your comment in August 3, 2010, 2:12 am (it is no secret nor breach of postal secrecy what I reveal here because you posted the following openly to the www.) on my c2NN story and would never post in the open any of the subsequent PM's on this topic nor PM's in general

'News Station Confirms Poison Barium In Chemtrails'

'Thank you Parsifal for your gracious input. Yes we have Grandchildren - and you really have made our day since we are both in our 70's mon ami.
Our boys have always had filtered water and nothing with preservatives at all. Most of their vegies are homegrown. Now they are getting older their asthma seems to be declining. They have chinese and homeopathic medicines, manuka honey etc. Sometimes they have to have to go to conventional medicine but only if absolutely necessary. Lots of viruses around these days.
Glad you explained about the 'weather control' - we will check out the links you mention for further enlightenment. If I wasn't on Care2 probably wouldn't have known about any of this.
Have sent the link on.'

So much about conspiracy practise....

fly bird (26)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 12:26 pm
Genia Kolvske

When the Germans arrived they threw us into the ghetto And it was just the same situation and it was not in our power to stay.

We were shaved
We were naked
We're not crying,
We did not know what Crematorium means
you do not know where you're going
They put you inside,
So they would tell us
You see where the chimney is and the smoke is coming out
You are waiting to go inside.
I never wanted to tell
We dressed nicely with a hat and gloves and beautiful coats…
In Haifa we got out and they took us to Pardes Katz.
Pardes Katz was a large Maabara
There were tents, and it was a hard winter in 49
There were heavy rains and it was cold
And we were soaked with our clothes and we cried
So I decided I'm not staying here
The Sochnut promised to give us an apartment
We went to the Sochnut and they gave us a key and we arrive at Jaffa
It was not far from the harbor, it was a house enclosed by a fence
We opened the gate, opened the door and went in and we couldn’t believe our eyes…
we were in shocked.
The house was beautiful but we didn’t even enter,
because in the yard there was a round table set with plates and as soon as we saw this,
also saw there was a basement,
we were frighten
Besides the fear,
we could not look, it hurt us, how could people,
it reminded us how we had to leave the house and leave everything.
When the Germans arrived they threw us into the ghetto
And it was just the same situation and it was not in our power to stay.
I did not want to do the same thing that the Germans did.
We left, returned the key and stayed in Nachlat.

Dedicated to my dear parents
That despite of the horrors they were subjected to they
Remained compassion

Transcription of the video that Dvora produced especially for the exhibit "And you shall tell your daughter".

fly bird (26)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 12:31 pm
There are rabid racists and bigots on this thread, without a doubt. Shame on them. Disgusting hypocrisy. The hatemongering is what it is.
The fruit does not fall far from the tree...

Parsifal S (99)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 12:58 pm

Debra G. ZERO friends, hidden profile, nice comment...

reliable ?

Parsifal S (99)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 1:07 pm

Bob A(lgeron)

'The Palestinian Arab boy who died at the entrance to Lebanon Arab hospital because he was denied the treatment is the real Nakba'.

Is this meant a justification your Zionist friends carried out then and continue doing so, unhampered albeit countless UN resolutions who condemn the Ziosphere's Opressive policy, terror agagsinst minorities like the native inhabitants and Bedouins ?

If so, let me tell you tis week a pregnant woman bled to death in Vienna who was denied medical care in three hospitals of excellent international reputation.

Can you come up with more such great narrations please ?

Parsifal S (99)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 1:15 pm

Cal Mendelsohn:

Always good to see you.

If I watch your posts in the C2NN I just have to assume the opposite to be on the safe side and to know what the empire currently wants the sheeple to believe

שיהיה לך יום טוב

Birgit W (160)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 2:11 pm
Reading all the comments on Care2 it is just like a war is going on on-line unfortunately.
It was horrific what has been done to the Palestinians.
I am waiting for the day when we are going to have just one World government, and all the hatred will disappear.
PEACE to all!

elderberry C (47)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 4:12 pm
Thanks to all the humane contributers....for helping this to the front page where it belongs ........

Parsifal.....defender of truth Tx......for your dedication.....

And Jess ...I have tweeted that testimony "And you shall tell your Daughter" ....Thank you.

Justin Vale (13)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 5:21 pm
ah come on E. flies are attracted to you know what. that's all this is about. there is a great article on food stamps and nobody is reading it. but this dogmatic empty eggshell seems to be attracting a crowd.

Justin Vale (13)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 5:25 pm
you see what i mean about parsifal, he calls me pro zionist when in fact the zionists on this site have considered me an enemy for over 12 years.
there is anti zionism and then there is you guys. and there is a really big difference.

Abo r (107)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 6:37 pm
The death of a boy at the entrance of a hospital a cause and permisson and justification to let the IDF let a women deliver at the check point, killing children on yhe eyes of thier parents , killing a parent on the eyes of his child , destruction of houses over its residence humans and animals, destruction of all kinds of trees olives is one ,delaying a permission to patients \ refusing giving a permission to a patient to go out for medical care. ???? stealing land and houses , preventing the building materials to rebuild the destructive houses by the IDF , or it is a justification to CRUSH RACHEAL CORRIE BY A BILDOZER ???
This is a real NAKBA

Past Member (0)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 7:24 pm
Abo, Israel treats wounded Arabs, even though they are at war with Israel. Corrie was an Anarchist played by Arabs to endanger her life for the sake of supporting terrorists. Stupid death, which can be considered as another human shield utilized by Arabs. Shame on them.

IDF or Arab-Israeli war is one thing, but the real problem for Nakba is blatant racism by Arab clans against other Arab clans. That racism is the reason that Arabs living in Arab countries are denied basic human right, which is exactly what the Nakba is. This is what you need to realize.

elderberry C (47)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 7:46 pm
Bob A says...Rachel Corrie's Death was Stupid....Trying to stop a Palestinian's home being demolished....!!
What the hell do people like you Care .....

What could be described as stupid is your comment to Abo who lives in Gaza & knows far more than you ever could ......Resident in usa......suggest you spend some time on the other side of that WALL.!


Past Member (0)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 8:30 pm
Elderberry, another cute attempt to divert attention from Arab racism towards their own. Rachel Corrie has nothing to do with Arab states refusing human rights to their own brothers in need.

What exactly surprises you about Israel wanting to build a fence to stop suicide bombers coming from Gaza, where Abo, and many others with his attitude, reside? That fence stopped both Arab suicide bombers and car thieves. Do you really want anyone to share grievances of Hamas suicide bombers or Gaza car thieves unable to achieve their target? Don't count on me.

For Corrie, to go to a closed military zone where Palestinian Arab snipers were shooting at Israelis and expect to be safe was very stupid and irresponsible even for the Anarchist that she was. For her Hamas handlers, sending Corrie to her death to that zone was criminal use of a human shield.

People like me care about fairness and justice, not about extremism and racism, practiced in Gaza and in many Arab countries.

Going back to the topic: what do you have to say about Nakba, about Arab States racism towards Arabs from Palestine, denial their human rights and keeping them in concentration refugee camps?

Rosa C (384)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 9:10 pm
Thanks for sharing.

Sam H (410)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 9:30 pm
Hi Elderberry,

I’m sorry to disagree with you, but I don’t believe that Bob’s comment is stupid.

I believe it’s a very well-thought-out comment, reflective of his deep-seated hatred of all Palestinians and Arabs.

This is the type of hatred and bigotry that’s often being perpetrated by those whom Amos Oz calls Hebrew neo-Nazis.

What we’re seeing here posted by Bob and others who subscribe to his line of thinking is no different from the hate-filled graffiti scribbled over the houses of worship in Palestine by those who were so aptly described as Hebrew neo-Nazis.

So I don’t think his stupidity caused him to blurt out those bigoted, hateful remarks. I believe there’s something more sinister at work here.

Otherwise, we may allow ourselves to look back at what Hitler did and characterize his actions as stupid rather than criminal.

Parsifal S (99)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 10:13 pm

Bob A.
Are you a communist ?

You continuously use the word 'racist'

Parsifal S (99)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 10:46 pm

in their own words...
Quotable Quotes from 'The Chosen Ones'

Parsifal S (99)
Thursday May 15, 2014, 11:41 pm

When I look to some of the above comments, I must admit, the Crème de la Crème of c2 rabid Zionism is gathered here in sweet unity.
A gangbang which does not care for genocide, brute turnout, illegal occupation and Apartheid in a foreign country which it claims it's own and renamed (from) Palestine to Israel.

Their (Zionist) desperate attempts to distract the gentle readers are based practically completely on inventions, falsification of history, exaggerations, blatant lies and self-justification.

But I have to admit, I have seen better attempts in the past where the hasbra MORE hatefully tried kill the messenger and portray genocide and war of conquest a whileworthy sport and the poor Palestinians a 'race' (yep, 'race') of criminal terrorists and cattle.

Listen, Zionist folks from a parallel-universe, defenders of intimitation, mass murder, Al Qaeda and other Jihadi groups as the Muslim Brotherhood raging not only in Syria but other neighboring countries (what a coincidence).
Your struggle to portray Israel as a victim-state failed terribly, is beyond all hope and only you and your supporters believe your lies.
You have not even the brilliancy to invent more and better lies (to back-up your old and worn out lies which no one with a grain of courage can listen to and stand for more than one minute).

It but has become political correct to portray Israel as a democracy, war of aggression 'peace' and the lie a truth.

It is not about Israelis but about the 'official government of Israel', the one government which was handpicked by the Zionist - NaZi Rothschild Clan for the practical implementation of the destabilizion of the Craddle of Mankind, the Middle East...
...and so, the whole world by eternal wars all over the planet by your satellites AIPAC, PNAC and ADL, plus the NeoConservative war-horny hawks in The House.

Gentle reader, what's behind the struggle of those who, oh so eagerly defended State-Terrorism ?

The Zionist Plan for the Middle East

Sam H (410)
Friday May 16, 2014, 12:27 am
I just finished listening to those “Quotables.” They’re just sickening. All that hateful graffiti scribbled on the houses of worship pales in comparison! Where was Amos Oz all this time? He didn’t need that graffiti to come to his senses and call the people behind it “Hebrew neo-Nazis.” The evidence was there all this time!

Debra G (0)
Friday May 16, 2014, 12:32 am
Abo R, read Ariel Sabar's book "My Father's Paradise" about the Kurdish Jews in the mountains of northern Iraq, living so isolated that they still spoke Aramaic, the language of Jesus. Mostly illiterate, they were self-made mystics and gifted storytellers and humble peddlers who dwelt in harmony with their Muslim and Christian neighbors until WWII, when they were expelled, penniless, by the government of Iraq. Nobody paid their way.
Parsifal, that I have "zero friends" doesn't make me an unreliable source, just unfriendly. This article is posted on an unreliable blog, full of conspiracy theories (like the one I cited above) and unproven and biased crap.

Parsifal S (99)
Friday May 16, 2014, 12:57 am

The origin of the word Palestine lies in 'Plesheth'
This is a name appearing frequently in the Bible and have started being known as 'Philistine' in English.
The world root of 'Plesheth' lies in the word 'palah(sh)' was is a term used generally in the sense of migratory, referring to the Palestinian’s conquest of the coast of Mediterranean.
These people were mostly originates of Asia Minor and Greece and gradually became a part of the Arab world.

The Philistines entered in this region not all at one time but in different eras.
The first group reached here in the pre-patriarchal period and made a settlement in Gerar, south of Beersheba.

asking the www on the topic who was first the egg or the hen, ALAS ! it turns out...

Palestine - the historical geographic region (summarized in Wikipedia)

The term Peleset (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in numerous Egyptian documents referring to a neighboring people or land starting from c.1150 BCE during the Twentieth dynasty of Egypt.
The first mention is thought to be in texts of the temple at Medinet Habu, which record a people called the Peleset among the Sea Peoples who invaded Egypt in Ramesses III's reign, followed later by an inscription on Padiiset's Statue.
The Assyrians called the same region Palashtu or Pilistu, beginning with Adad-nirari III in the Nimrud Slab in c.800 BCE through to emperor Sargon II, in his Annals approximately a century later.

The first clear use of the term Palestine to refer to the entire area between Phoenicia and Egypt was in 5th century BC Ancient Greece.
Herodotus wrote of a 'district of Syria, called Palaistinê' in The Histories, the first historical work clearly defining the region, which included the Judean mountains and the Jordan Rift Valley and formed part of the 5th Persian satrapy.

Friday May 16, 2014, 12:59 am
66 Years a go our nation Israel was reborn

never again to be up rooted .

Palestinians need to be grateful for small mercy,s of the land they already occupy in Judea and Samaria.
Something is better then nothing !!!!!!


Sam H (410)
Friday May 16, 2014, 1:02 am

What happened to the Kurdish
Jews was really bad, but that�¢ï¿½ï¿½s no reason to not acknowledge the suffering of
the Palestinians at the hands of Israeli government(s). Most likely Moslems and
Christians suffered from that Iraqi government as well.


You may be interested in noting
and viewing this news story about the lost cities of Palestine:

It�¢ï¿½ï¿½s really worth noting and


Parsifal S (99)
Friday May 16, 2014, 1:50 am

Debra G. ZERO friends, no profile

Ariel Sabar's workings have been published in papers New York Times, Toronto Star, Smithsonian Magazine, Washingtonian Magazine, New York Times Magazine, Harper's, Washington Post, Boston Globe, Washington Monthly and Los Angeles Times and war-mongering NeoCon/Zionist Council On Foreign Relations to name a few...
(For the awakened reader his colloboration with the Zionist presstitutes, corporate media says it all)

I refuse to dig deeper into this topic because it's a waste of time and has nothing to do with The Nakba.
If I want to read in one of these tabloids, I do it by myself in order to learn which country is next to be put on the Empire's schedule of so called 'Rogue-States'

Your attempt to distract on the one hand and keep me busy on the other was completely fruitless.

I can only see you as part of the hasbra and so a conspiracy practise.

Let's return to real business: Are you a human being with heart and compassion or ADL software ?

Parsifal S (99)
Friday May 16, 2014, 1:55 am
JOHNLEWIS HODDINOTT caps lock glitch

'Palestinians need to be grateful for small mercy,s of the land they already occupy in Judea and Samaria.
Something is better then nothing !!!!!!'

What a misanthropic statement, reminds me to the Zionist agenda in the ME:

'We should prepare to go over to the offensive.
Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria.
The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine.
We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us.
We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria, and Sinai'
- upper Zionist Ben Gurion, May 1948 (nearly implemented with Israel's creation of the Muslim Brotherhood by Great Britain and Israelis support of several proxy - terror groups currently raging in Syria in collaboration with Saudi Arabia)

Parsifal S (99)
Friday May 16, 2014, 2:41 am

If you're not familiar with the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) or the NeoCons, Zionism or the depopulation agenda et al, those terms are free for the searching.
Well worth serious time investment and they will lead you down many an intriguing, enlightening and empowering rabbit hole.

Parsifal S (99)
Friday May 16, 2014, 5:18 am

I hope Rose, you can see that, otherwise I recommend to check your browser settings.

(It's the first time, someone telling me he can not read one of my blogs)

Conchita Wurst We Must Be Intolerant

Parsifal S (99)
Friday May 16, 2014, 5:49 am

oh, Pardon 'Ros G' not Rose as written above.


patrica and edw jones, YOU always with your conspiracy theories - come back here, we are not ready yet !

May 15, 2014 Air Force Bombshell: Admits They Can Control Weather - HAARP

Past Member (0)
Friday May 16, 2014, 7:04 am
Parcifal, obviosuly, I am not a Communist. As you know, Communists supported and support all terrorists, including Palestinian ones, and I didn't and don't.

Mixing up ancient Philistines with Arabs is incorrect. Other Palestinian apologists try to mix Arabs with Phoenicans (descendants of Greeks) by trying to present Arabs as Natives of the Land of Israel, aka Palestine. They have no grounds to stay on, other than impressing trustful and ignorant people.

The sad truth is, that Russian Communist KGB invented the term "Palestinian People" which came in successful use now. Looks similar to what Russia is doing now: Crimea nation. Donetsk Nation. Whatever Nation. Well done, and Obama is no match for Putin. And Israelis are no match for Communist/Russian propaganda machine either.

Going back to the topic: what do you have to say about Nakba, about Arab States racism towards Arabs from Palestine, denial their human rights and keeping them in concentration refugee camps?


Past Member (0)
Friday May 16, 2014, 7:11 am
Debra G, you wrote: "I have "zero friends" doesn't make me an unreliable source" as a response to Parcifal.

The thing is, "zero friends" makes you a RELIABLE source.

Care2 is frequented by Islamist and Arab PR workers. To promote their hateful anti-American and anti-Israel posts they need people to note them. You can see that pretty much all of their posts are noted by the same identities. What they do, is they publish their posts and send letters to their friends to note those posts. That's why they need posts, often hiding behind English sounded names.

You, in effect, show that you are here on your own, to read and to comment, and do not pursue any specific agenda.

Intimidation is a usual practice on Islamists, you will see lots of it here. Don't get annoyed by it, just get used to. That's how they are playing their game.

Past Member (0)
Friday May 16, 2014, 7:20 am
Sam, you wrote quite insulting post, that was marked as such. In particular, you wrote that I have "deep-seated hatred of all Palestinians and Arabs." which is not true.

You mixed all Palestinian Arabs and all Arabs together. That's wrong. I have nothing against and indeed support all peaceful and moderate Arabs, and am against extremists and terrorists.

Now, I don't see you condemning Lebanese Arab hospital, Lebanese government, Hesbola and others in charge of Lebanon for making the hospital to refuse admittance to a sick Palestinian Arab child, that later died at the entrance. This is real "deep-seated hatred of all Palestinians", and not a fake one.

The Nakba is the disgust that Iranians and Arabs show toward Arabs from Palestine. As long, as people like you and Parcifal will blame only Israel and do nothing of your own to help your Muslim brothers, Nakba will continue.

Parsifal S (99)
Friday May 16, 2014, 7:50 am

Bob Algeron wrote

' Parcifal, obviosuly, I am not a Communist'

Bob, I doubt your confession; for me you seem to be a rare blueprint of a 'Communist Zionist' (lol) (if you, hasbra agent are real and not a Mossad cyber-software generated heartless troll spreading continuously false information and turning truth upside down) as you constantly use the term 'race':

"Racist" - A Word Invented by USSR’s Leon Trotsky

Parsifal S (99)
Friday May 16, 2014, 8:14 am

to Bob A. for his diary; acknowledging his plentiful but meaningless comments

'We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters'
- Uri Lubrani, Israeli Prime Minister David Ben Gurion’s special adviser on Arab Affairs, in 1960 (not fully implemented)

Past Member (0)
Friday May 16, 2014, 1:00 pm
Hiding from questions as usual, Parcifal? Bringing up any nonsense (Ziosphere, Communism) you can to divert attention from condemning the Umma, no matter how disgusting it behaves, because they are YOUR guys? Quoting Ben Gurion as if you read it? Ignoring Arab immigration to Israel (aren't you envious?) at all times high?

The Nakba is the disgust that Iranians and Arabs show toward Arabs from Palestine. As long, as people like you blame only Israel and do nothing of your own to help your Muslim brothers, the Nakba will continue.

fly bird (26)
Friday May 16, 2014, 3:48 pm
Nakba - The Great Catastrophe.

Parsifal S (99)
Saturday May 17, 2014, 4:11 am

'Israel’s recurrent massacres of Palestinians are largely made possible because no one in power has the courage to challenge Zionist lies'
- Khalid Amayreh

Parsifal S (99)
Saturday May 17, 2014, 4:42 am

The Land of Palestine was given its name by the Roman Empire. The Arabs were already there, and the Empire named it Paleshtin (Palestine) after the Biblical Pelishtim (Philistines). Paleshtin = Pelishtim

The Pelishtim descended from their patriarch Pelish; they were a sea-going people who inhabited the Mediterranean coast long before the Israelites straggled in, and were not likely Arabs (though it’s not impossible). Nonetheless, the Arabs living there in the later time of Jesus came to be called Palestinians by the Romans, and they accepted the name. Recall that both Abraham and Isaac made permanent friendship treaties with Pelishti (Philistine) kings (Genesis 21:21-34 & 26:23-31) – centuries later the Israelites continually tried to steal their land and warred against them.


Parsifal S (99)
Saturday May 17, 2014, 5:25 am

'What is achieved by violence can only be kept by force'
- Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi

Parsifal S (99)
Saturday May 17, 2014, 6:07 am

What's Behind the 'Boycott Israel' Movement?

Neill Abayon (667)
Saturday May 17, 2014, 11:39 pm
Noted. Thanks for sharing. Interesting comments.

Past Member (0)
Sunday May 18, 2014, 4:03 am
Noted, Thanks for sharing

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Sunday May 18, 2014, 3:31 pm

I just come from a lengthy discussion ( relating to this issue of Netanyahu blocking the peace deal of 2011 and just like to put in my 5 cts for whatever its worth – thanks Abo for calling my attention the excellent chronology of events listed by Parsifal. Thanks Parsifal!

I was still under the impression that Naqba celebrations are forbidden in Israel but Stephen corrected me. My brain had it ingrained from the original version of the bill submitted to the Knesset which went as far as demanding a 3-years jail sentence for those who commemorate Naqba.

A public outcry within and outside Israel as well as strong opposition from many Knesset members forced the initiators to re-phrase and tune down considerably the drafted bill. Ultimately it was adopted on March 22nd, 2011 by a vote of 37 to 25 after an angry debate among right and left-wing lawmakers.

Israel's High Court rejected on Jan. 5th, 2012 a petition against the controversial Naqba Law passed by the Knesset in March 2011, which fines bodies who openly reject Israel as a Jewish state or mark the Israel's Independence Day as a day of mourning.

As Hannan Zoabi (Knesset Member) said so succinctly: “Behind this law is a fear, the fear of the victim. Behind this law is the ability of the memory of the victim to threaten the legitimacy of Zionism.”

It is noteworthy how scared polit-Israel is of any mention of the Naqba; e.g. in 2008 Israel saw it fit to protest officially after Ban Ki-Moon dared to express solidarity with the Palestinians on the day they mark the Naqba.
The Israeli mission to the United Nations is seeking clarifications after an official communiqué released by Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon's bureau made specific reference to the word "nakba," according to a report broadcast on Israel Radio early Friday morning.

The report said the UN chief telephoned Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas to express his solidarity with the Palestinians on the day they mark the "nakba," the Arabic word meaning "catastrophe" that is used in reference to the founding of the state of Israel.

Danny Carmon, Israel's deputy ambassador to the UN, told Israel Radio that the term "'nakba' is a tool of Arab propaganda used to undermine the legitimacy of the establishment of the State of Israel, and it must not be part of the lexicon of the UN."”

Just imagine for a split-second if Germany would protest that the word Holocaust is part of the lexicon of the UN!

While it can be understood that Israel doesn’t want to spend state's money (which is taxpayers money) on official commemorations of their atrocities committed against the Palestinians although some ¼ of the taxpayers money comes from Arab Israelis who happen to be Palestinians … why is it then OK that the State of Israel is allowed to use Arab Israelis taxpayers money to finance the illegal settlements in the Occupied Territories and the continuing oppression and dispossession of the Palestinians?

And why is it not only OK but demanded that Germany spends each year xxx amount of Euro to commemorate the Holocaust - what would happen if Germany would one day pass a law refusing taxpayers money to be spent on yearly basis on the commemoration of their atrocities?

In line with this more questions arise: Why is it OK that American taxpayer’s money is spent on one week commemoration of the Holocaust? Or the Canadian taxpayers money? Or … where ever in the world monuments had to be erected (and still are to be erected) with partial taxpayers money commemorating the Holocaust on the Jews? And why is it OK that any memorial and commemoration day is still denied for the almost 2 Mio Roma and Sinti which equally perished alongside the Jews, the Socialists, the Communists and so many others? Where are the memorials and commemoration days for the 20-30 Mio who perished during the Holodomor? The Rwandans et al.?

What I really think is the utmost of cynicism is the fact that the Yad Vashem Memorial is just a stone-throw away from Deir Yassin which stands for the Naqba – that’s what’s called “chutzpah”.


It's also interesting to note how civilized a discussion can be (my reference at the beginning of my comment here) in the absence of those who follow an agenda. Some of the statements here remind of what the Nazis always said in defense hoping to camouflage their hatred for Jews: "Some of my best friends were Jews" ... replace this today with "Arabs and/or Muslims". Striking these similarities!


Stan B (123)
Sunday May 18, 2014, 4:37 pm
From ARAB News. May 19, 2014.

May 15: Nakba or Defeat?
 Abdulateef Al-Mulhim

Published — Wednesday 14 May 2014

More A few weeks ago, many people in the Arab world heard a name, Joshua Teitelbaum, an Israeli senior fellow at the Dayan Center for Middle Eastern Studies and the Goldman visiting associate professor at Stanford’s Center on Democracy and the Rule of Law. Ironically, it is the Arabs who made him famous.
He penned a book about the region. In the beginning, many refused to translate the book into Arabic because of his nationality. However, the book reportedly got translated. The question is: Do the Arabs really know Israel? Most likely the answer is no. The reason for that is we don’t read their literature but most Israeli scholars and politicians read everything written in the Arab world. The Arabs are not known for heavy and extensive reading, let alone reading Israeli literature or translating it.
Since 1948 it is not considered appropriate to read or translate a book written by an Israeli author that could help us understand Israel. Interestingly, in case of falling ill it is fine to use a cure discovered by an Israeli scientist. So, what happened on May 14, 1948?
It was the day when the state of Israel emerged on the world map. Do we know the rest of the story? No. We don’t know the entire story because we are wont of dealing with events with emotions. One day after the United Nations mandate (May 15), a long and bloody conflict broke out and after the dust settled, the Arabs called it Nakba or the Day of Catastrophe. It was a defeat but the Arabs chose to call it a catastrophe. Many Palestinians were displaced from their homeland and were promised that they would return to their homes soon. Despite the passage of over six decades, the promise has yet to be delivered. The thousands of Palestinians who fled their homes have turned into millions.
The question now is what if those Palestinians had accepted the mandate and decided to live side by side with the Israelis? I ask the readers to please note that I am just asking a question. So, would the fate of the Palestinians be the same? The reason I am asking is that we read reports that the Palestinian refugees are not allowed fleeing the atrocities in Syria and seeking refuge in Lebanon. That is double the agony.
There are many facts that were not clear to the Palestinians on May 15, 1948. Many of them didn’t have to flee their homes. It is said that it was the Mufti (Hussini) who encouraged them to flee. At the end of the day, the Mufti wasn’t a popular figure in the West or in then USSR because of his stand on the Nazis. And yes, it is true that many Palestinians were attacked and murdered but on that day it was chaos and all sides were fighting each other. On that day, Israel didn’t have a fully organized IDF so they wanted to disarm the Irgun and when refused, the IDF attacked one of their ships. In other words there was havoc but the Palestinians could have had acted more wisely.
As time passed, the Palestinians were promised to return to their homes but 66 years later with many wars and loss of human lives, the conflict continues. Since May 15, 1948 till 1967, the Palestinians and all Arab nations insisted that either all lands or no peace. In the course, the Palestinians were used, abused and misled even by their own leaders. Palestinians’ agony became a moneymaking machine for some of the Palestinian elite. Many Arab and non-Arab countries extended financial aid but the average Palestinian received nothing from the aid. Many of the Palestinian leaders will not go to a nearby refugee camp in Syria or Lebanon to see the living standard but they travel thousands of miles to stay in the best hotels in foreign capitals.
Nowadays, the peace negotiations are at a standstill with no light at the end of the tunnel. And if the Palestinian refugee situation is not resolved then there will be no solution to this conflict. Let us get real and think straight. How can the Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank accommodate the millions of Palestinians from the refugee camps? And even if full peace is achieved and the two-state solution is accepted, how are we going to relocate millions of refugees back to theirs’ or their grandfathers’ towns and villages? The Palestinian-Israeli conflict could have been resolved on May 15, 1948 by either accepting the United Nations mandate or by absorbing the thousands of Palestinian refugees into the Arab world. Tomorrow, it is May 15, 2014 and we are not only back to square one but we are far away from it. And finally, I tell the Palestinians, don’t fool yourself. No one has ever felt your pain. Just look at what some regimes in the Arab world are doing to their own people. If they don’t care about their own people’s pain, then what will make them care about your pain? In the past, the Palestinians had better chances for peace but they never read the fine prints or between the lines.

Abdulateef Al-Mulhim


Parsifal S (99)
Monday May 19, 2014, 11:14 am

for your appreciation thank you very much Eleonora Oldani all the commenters and a special thanks to Elderberry for posting and sharing.

I already have written this timeline in May 14, 2008 and have been shocked to disccover to what degree the situation for the native population became almost unbearable

Israel will never find peace until it is willing to withdraw from its neighbors’ land and to permit the Palestinians to exercise their basic human and political rights.

Abo r (107)
Tuesday May 20, 2014, 1:06 am
Palestinians were droven out from thier homeland under shooting this is a fact while gews and Flasha have been brought by zionest to palestine from different countries .
As I know from Jews came from Iraq, Alexandria, Yamen, Morocco they were living happy with thier neibours and had no troubles and they wished they did not leave it.and the same who came from Germany .

Abo r (107)
Tuesday May 20, 2014, 1:18 am
Racheal Corrie is 23 year an Amrican citizen in her last year of university studies, came to GAZA through Irez were in Jerusalem and known to be human rights activist.
Racheal Corrie was crushed by the IDF Bildozer in GAZA - Rafah in noviolent day and there was no acts except the IDF who was demolishing the palestinian houses by bildozers.....
According to Eye wittness:
Racheal was standing 20 - 30 meters aside away from the bildozer , she was visible and having Megaphone with her when the the Soldier run over her twice with the IDF buldozer, hit by the bilduzer blate twice was doing nothing and no threat , had skull fracture , fractured ribs and puncured lung.
was not a shell.
The driver claimed he did not see her in the court .
Do not fabricate facts and lies , speak facts when you post.

Abo r (107)
Tuesday May 20, 2014, 1:20 am

Briefly , Zionest IDF do not want peace exists , thats why they killed both ( Rabin and ARAFAT ) the peace men who took the peace priz .
Always put obsticles in front of the talks
DIAN SAID IT CLEARLY BUILT villegesbuilt on the Arabs villeges .......etc.)
David Ben Gorion Said ( We have taken their country ....... we stolen their country ...etc.)
They want the planet as a whole without humans , they want to establish the zionest empire over .
US UK EU Canada ... etc. awake up , stop supporting the IDF , its time before your land be occupied by the IDF .

Palestinians wants peace love peace love thier children and ready to live with JEWS and Christians who were before the British mandad in Palestine as they were together in one state... THa rest whos fathers mothers grands came from other countries to return back ( those called OOLIM HADDASHIM ) the new immegrants .

UK its time to correct the historical mistake your minister Belfoure did .
US its enough support and playing two faces.
No time to spend aurgoing with aensless aurguments

Stan B (123)
Tuesday May 20, 2014, 2:54 am
Abo. When I read comments that blame Zionists for killing Sadat I realise what a bunch of head-bangers the Israelis have to negotiate with.

kate K (481)
Tuesday May 20, 2014, 8:01 am
Thank you for posting dear !

elderberry C (47)
Tuesday May 20, 2014, 6:16 pm

Israel considers itself part of the West .....All societies in the west are MULTICULTURAL.....therefore israel's open hostility to other religions & races in order to be a Jewish only state has no place in civilised society....!

Sam H (410)
Tuesday May 20, 2014, 7:59 pm
Ros, I bet Stan is still reeling from that zinger!

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Wednesday May 21, 2014, 12:03 am
I got this in from a good friend of mine this morning and place it here without further comment:


Subject: Trees at Tent of Nations--Bethlehem

Date: May 20, 2014 at 5:51:29 PM EDT

Dear Friends,

I just finished listening to a telephone conference call--planned for some time for 4pm Tues May 20--by Churches for Middle East Peace (CMEP) interviewing Daoud Nassar--Lutheran Christian from Bethlehem and director of Tent of Nations.

With great sadness I pass on to you that yesterday--Yes, Monday, May 19-- Israeli military bulldozers removed 1500 apricot, apple, and almond trees in the valley at Tent of Nations, the Nassar family farm outside Bethlehem. Many of you know the Nassars have been involved for many years in Israeli court maintaining control of the land that their family has held and has papers of ownership for since early 20th century. This is the first violence since 2002 when settlers removed trees that were subsequently replaced by a Jewish peace group in Britain.

With the loving and gentle way he is known for, Daoud (and also George, I've talked with him on the phone) say we must respond in Jesus' way--love them, for they don't know what they are doing. There was no warning nor legal action before this violent angry act was committed. I believe the Nassars are in shock, but refuse to return violence with violence continuing to do as they say, "We refuse to be enemies." George said if someone comes to you, give him some coffee or tear or feed him, he just doesn't know about Christ and the Bible.

I pray that you will join me in prayer for peace, reconciliation, faith, hope and love. May we show a portion of the peace and patience that God seems to give to the Nassars in their trying situation.

Peace in the Risen Christ---let's be "Living Stones"

Pastor XYZ

(Nota Bene: For privacy reason I've taken out the name of the Pastor as I couldn't find yet any official news source referencing this incident)

Parsifal S (99)
Wednesday May 21, 2014, 11:20 am

Stan B.

'Abo. When I read comments that blame Zionists for killing Sadat I realise what a bunch of head-bangers the Israelis have to negotiate with'.

Please provide suitable evidence of your claim and do us a favor:
Do not quote JP, WP, NYT or i.e. CNN

You always come up with inventions or exaggerations unable to support your own allegations.

Please remember, this is Planet Earth.
I am unsure in which Universe you live but seem to have distorted reality.

Stan, I remember, years ago you and your whole gangbang of rabid Zionists came up with comments, worth reading, so a discussion could arise.

Times have changed and you and your equals seem to have lost the tracks completely, became a Punch and Judy Show, laughing stock.
Indeed ridiculous if it was not for the fate of Millions of the native inhabitants of Palestine and by your spin doctor's war mongering against your neighboring states, a threat against the whole of humanity.

You even seem to believe your own propaganda and have completely derailed logic and coherencies, have been caught into your own fabrics of lies.
(This would reasonably explain your twisted logic and hypocricy)

It is sad to observe you have not developed further by way of education to draw the bigger picture and increasingly paint in black and white only, forgetting the fact you and your likes entangle deeper and deeper into your own follies.

You remind me more and more to those cling-on governments of the empire of shame and arrogance who blindly obey the commands of the real government behind the curtains, reading the scripts agsin and again, displayed on the teleprompters.

Stan, not far away from now, there will be a time when the support of Zionism will be avenged a crime against humanity.
There will be no remission for 'I just carried out orders'


'I did not know I was following a criminal chain of command'

And to put the interests of the Rottenchild ruled government of the #1 rogue state Israel BEFORE the interests of your homeland (Australia) (Israel First) considered high-treason !

Think about it Stan, people are waking up and your struggle to deceive the masses has already failed because you overdid your lies and constant distraction.
(so you unwillingly helped to enlighten the broad masses)

Shalom !

Parsifal S (99)
Wednesday May 21, 2014, 11:51 am

Even the Jewish community in The Iran protested repeatedly against the ongoing war of Israel and human rights violations.
Yes, there are Jews there, even if official Israel does not want to consider this, they are the Zionists an eyesore, are considered traitors.
There live about 25.000 Jews in Tehran, in an Islamic country; can practice their faith and are represented in Parliament.
These people can even leave the country and visit the 'promised land', but return anyway.
The Israeli government has granted an award of (converted approx) 50.000 USD for each Iranian Jew to move to Israel and this 'offer' has been accepted very rarely for some reasons.
So bad, it can not be for The Iranian Jews, they recognize the injustice, protest against the bombing of Gaza and took manifold to the road to express disdain of the warlike dictatorship in Israel.

Parsifal S (99)
Wednesday May 21, 2014, 12:13 pm

cont'd from above:

The protesters were led by the Jewish representative in the Iranian parliament, Siamak Mara-Sedq, before the UN office in Tehran, carrying posters with the inscription ‘Peace’ in Farsi, Hebrew and English.

‘We are here to express our support and Sympathy with the Palestinian nation,’

said the chairman of the Jewish community, Rahmatollah Rafi, at the demonstration.

The religious leaders of the Iranian Jews, Rabbi Golestaninejad, has published a decree, in which he asks the Jews to help the Palestinians, especially those suffering in Gaza.
It is the duty of every ‘monotheistic Jews’ to help people Golestaninejad said.
He called on his fellow believers to help Gaza financially, medically and with food, as the agency FNA reported.

‘The Zionists act against the teachings of Judaism’, and he added,

‘any help for the Zionists from a religious perspective is unlawful’,

he said.
He condemned the atrocities committed by the Zionist regime in Gaza, and expressed his hope that peace and stability in Beit-ul-Muqaddas (Jerusalem) will soon prevail.

What Israel is doing is totally counterproductive.
Massive violence, especially against the Palestinian civilian population, will never bring peace, on the contrary, cause even more resistance and hatred.
And, should they should destroy (THEIR OWN) Hamas, an even more determined group will take their place.
But that's intentional.
Only to this conclusion one can come.

Peace is the last thing the Zionist regime wants.

Only by constant self-inflicted victimhood can justify the aggression and expansion, one can steal even more settlement area.

Parsifal S (99)
Thursday August 14, 2014, 8:08 am
Justin Vale

why do you stick so emphatic to the Zionist notation:

'... there were nly about 400,000 arabs in palestine b4 the british mandate'

These were and ARE PALESTINIANS and not (just) Arabs.

Also the numbers you present are utterly wrong.

As I pointed out:

'In 1914 the population of Palestine consists of 657.000 Muslim Arabs, 81.000 Christian Arabs, and 59.000 Jews, included the recently immigrated European Jews from the first and second Aliyah'.

These people lived together fulfilling the elemental principle of peaceful coexistence.

You would even go ahead and post:

' the late 20's the arabs started attacks on jewish women and children'

R.u. sure you speak of Planet Earth ?


Parsifal S (99)
Thursday August 14, 2014, 8:58 am

after all, Elderberry, we can say this post hit a nerve ...
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