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Gitmo Detainee Acquitted of All But 1 Charge in NY - Yahoo! News


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: gitmo, detainee, acquittal, charges, conspiracy, civilian, trial, destruction )

Mary
- 3130 days ago - news.yahoo.com
NEW YORK - The first Guantanamo detainee to face a civilian trial was acquitted Wednesday of all but one of the hundreds of charges he helped unleash death and destruction on two U.S. embassies in 1998 -- a mixed result for what's been viewed as a terror..



   

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chris b (2474)
Thursday November 18, 2010, 7:35 am
Perhaps Gitmo was the result of Global warming, something had to account for Bushnut phenomena!
 

Mary C (148)
Thursday November 18, 2010, 7:47 am
hahahahaha...reading your comments in rapid succession (after your response to my funny email) is especially amusing!!! thank you...sadly i cannot send you another green star yet :(
 

Kit B (276)
Friday November 19, 2010, 7:05 am
My, goodness still gonna spend 20 years in prison but the GOP just has to make a fuss. They are like children, always complaining never satisfied. The truth is it wouldn't matter who tried these people they are either guilty or not, but pretending a military court would punish more severely is the current aim of the GOP, facts to the contrary.
 

Christopher Fowler (82)
Friday November 19, 2010, 1:36 pm
The big problem is that the Republican hypocrites wanted to try these guys in civilian courts, right up until the Democrats, particularly the current President, got behind the idea.

Now, quite typically, they oppose the same ideas that they supported under Bush. They need to be reminded that party politics works against the country, not for the country.

Our system of criminal prosecution of major crimes works. It is not perfect, but it is the most just system in the world.
 

James h (7)
Friday November 19, 2010, 2:09 pm
Conspiracy is a prosecutor's trump card. Having known several people over the years who ran afoul of the law I can tell you conspiracy is always thrown in for leverage because it's so easy to "prove". it also carries a sentence so huge it forces a defendant to plead guilty to lesser charges. One acquaintance was facing 20 to life for conspiracy charges and accepted 10 years by pleading guilty to a lesser charge that got him 10 years. Unless you have run afoul of the law or know someone who has you have know idea of how easy it is to prove conspiracy. I recommend doing a search about it. You will be shocked! Once you get a handle of how little can constitute conspiracy it's hard not to view it as a desperation move when nothing else holds up. It's too often just a cheap shot to get someone into jail who can't be convicted of anything else.
 

Morris G. (18)
Friday November 19, 2010, 5:38 pm
The fact that Obama keeps that idiotic buffoon Holder as AG really sheds a poor light on the whole administration.
 

James R. (0)
Friday November 19, 2010, 6:42 pm
Guitly IN GITMO, guilty OUT OF GITMO - The guy belonged there, period.
 

Lloyd H (46)
Saturday November 20, 2010, 12:13 am
Yeah, 20 to life is such a crap sentence when compared to Libby getting a pardon for willful breach of national security and neither Bush or Cheney even being brought up on charges of dereliction of duty/criminal malfeasance or war crimes charges for the war crimes that they have admitted to in public and in writing. It is really too bad that neither President Obama or AG Holder took oaths requiring them to uphold the Constitution and laws of the United States of America.
 

Linda Chambre (18)
Saturday November 20, 2010, 7:19 am
This person did do these things and they are letting him get away with murder, this is a disgrace. This country has subcumbed to the tyranny of the present administration in not punishing the quilty.
 

James h (7)
Saturday November 20, 2010, 12:24 pm
@ Linda Chambre: Tyranny of the present administration? Wow! That's straight from the tea bagger manifesto! Among other things, under Bush, he, W that is, obtained the right to seize the total assets including money and property, without trial, recourse, or even a full explanation of the offense, from any citizen he deemed a threat , obstruction, or any effort to hamper US operations in the Middle East. Bush or his appointed proxy would decide what constituted a threat or obstruction. The offense could have been as trivial as a letter to a newspaper criticizing the administration or supporting a peace group. I don't know if he ever used it because like certain Homeland Security related visits by government agents, the person being investigated had to sign documents stating they would never reveal what had happened, discuss it with anyone, or allow the details to emerge under some very harsh penalties. Just like conspiracy is a leverage ploy police agencies on all levels will often threaten to jail other family members, spouses and/or children to get their target to play ball. I listened to a panel of constitutional scholars discussing the Bush presidency back when he was in office and one stated that no dictator, head of state, leader, or what have you in the entire known history of the world had claimed as much power and authority so absolute as George W Bush had. And that's some stiff competition! The panel mentioned names such as the Caesars, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, the Austrian house-painter who almost destroyed the world, Noriega, and a host of others. Apparently, you feel that's all well and fine. You are OK with torture to get people to talk without regard to the fact most people will say anything to get torture to stop. You want a system where a head of state can just arbitrarily declare someone guilty and dispense punishment. No trial, no evidence, no rules, no nothing. Time and again interrogation experts say torture is not the way to get information. You are not bothered a bit by even that, apparently. But just like the only confiscation of firearms under orders of a sitting president was done in New Orleans under Bush, that gets a pass as well. After all, it was likely mostly Black people who had legal guns taken (truthfully, I don't know but the fact that a Republican did it and the NRA never raised a whimper wasn't lost on me. Since the NRA raise so much money spinning the Democrats as the gun takers and always claiming the Republicans as the good guys, why would they crap where they eat? You also seem to have no regard for the legal system, laws, and the ideals this country was supposed to be founded on. There was no "administration tyranny" here. This was the law working as it should have. Confessions extracted using torture are inadmissible because they are given under duress. Regular cops aren't supposed to beat confessions out of people. Even more bat-shit is to claim to "know" the individual was guilty based on the entire torture thing. I bet you would swear to having sex with the man in the moon and riding a surfboard to Mars after about 2 minutes of the treatment many got while in GITMO and Abu-Gahrib custody. I despise those who want to add an asterisk to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution. None of that ilk will actually come out and say those documents don't apply to anybody but wealthy White people who believe in God. Bill Clinton had his issues with the context of certain words; you and yours seem to have a very narrow definition of who constitutes "people". I'd almost bet you have a painting of Stalin on your wall because he created the kind of state you apparently wish you lived in. Now, go have a big cup of tea and return to Fox News' blogs. If you want to shill here you need to be more original.
 

Mary C (148)
Saturday November 20, 2010, 6:23 pm
did she say "quilty" ? Excellent peice, JimH...I wish I could give you another green star, but alas...i cannot...
 
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