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Raising the Medicare Eligibility Age Would Harm Seniors and Increase Health Care Spending

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In every deficit-reduction debate, policymakers look at the Medicare program to see where savings can be found, and the latest fiscal showdown negotiations are no different.


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Past Member (0)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 12:43 am
Noted. Thanks.

Terry V (30)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 3:23 am
They may as well throw us seniors in the trash, as that is about as much THEY feel our value is.worth= YESTERDAY"S TRASH

Suzanne L (99)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 9:17 am
This is scary for seniors. I think government should investigate where all the $$$$ are going. There is huge spending on hospital administration. These are not the folks who actually look after patients. They are the paper-pushers and they make a lot of money.

Florence Eaise (132)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 1:55 pm
I can never figure out why our Gov always takes from the neediest first whenever they are looking to make cuts wouldnt it make more sense to "find" some money by making cuts where cuts wont actually starve people or keep the from being able to afford healthcare its just disgusting thanks Carrie noted

jan b (5)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 2:03 pm
Old folks in the 60's scared the hell out of the congress and Johnson got his Medicare bill so younger people older off your butts & let these congressional bought & paid for shills know who votes. the DC critters don't raise THEIR ages for pensions and healthcare

Generally, Medicare is available for younger people with disabilities and people with End Stage Renal Disease (permanent kidney failure requiring dialysis or transplant) and of course people age 65 or older.

Dorothy N (63)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 2:32 pm
Trust the Republicans to promote the most cruel and wasteful policies in attacking the most vulnerable.

No sane person would recommend delaying health care/pensions/assistance for the elderly.

The following example - is sufficiently appalling - this woman would not have survived any additional wait, and How many others already suffer unnecessary damage and premature death even prior to any further delays in coverage?

51 pound tumour removed from woman who delayed treatment for insurance
Surgeons have removed a 51 pound cancerous tumour from a US woman who delayed treatment for until she became eligible for health insurance.

0:11AM BST 04 Jul 2012

Evelyn, identified only by her first name, notice discomfort about six to eight weeks ago in her abdomen and her normally 120 pound frame was ballooning.

She sought medical help on June 4, days after her 65th birthday, when she would qualify for Medicare, the US health care programme for seniors.

"She was a skinny lady with a huge belly. I mean it looked like she was literally pregnant with triplets," said Dr David Dupree, who led the surgery on the woman, at Riverview Medical Center in Red Bank, New Jersey.

"She was just all belly," he said in describing his first meeting with the patient, a housewife from nearby Union Beach, New Jersey.

"The reason she didn't go earlier was because she had no insurance," he said.

By now, she weighed more than 170 pounds, her legs were swollen with trapped blood, she was badly dehydrated, and, scans showed, the tumour – a malignant sarcoma – was crushing her inferior vena cava, one of the main veins returning blood to the heart, and putting her life in danger.

With her body too weakened to be operated on immediately, Dr Dupree scheduled surgery for the following Monday, allowing time for her to become rehydrated and for her blood pressure to be brought under control.

But after she became short of breath on Sunday evening, Dr Dupree brought the surgery forward.

"I knew that she wasn't going to make it through the night," he said.

"Either she goes now or she dies tonight," he recalled thinking.

Opening her up, Dr Dupree and his team found the tumour, which appeared to have originated out of the fatty tissue around her large intestine, had engulfed many of her internal organs, and had to be sliced away "millimetre by millimetre" over the course of the five-hour surgery.

Evelyn was still recovering from the operation in a rehabilitation centre on Tuesday, Dr Dupree said. She declined to be interviewed.

Although the immediate threat to her life has passed, she must still see an oncologist about treatment for her cancer, which may not have been completely eradicated by the surgery, and may require chemotherapy or radiation therapy.

Dr Dupree said he would advise uninsured patients to see a doctor immediately if they knew they were unwell no matter how near their 65th birthday might be. He said the hospital would have operated on Evelyn regardless of her insurance status, but added he did not know whether doing so would have cost her more money.

Source: Reuters

Dorothy N (63)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 2:42 pm
I just received this, don't know who's seen it already, but want to post it where those affected who haven't yet can become aware:

This week, thousands of Americans picked up the phone to help the President prevent a tax hike on middle-class families.

We can't stop now. Republican leadership in the House of Representatives is still refusing to allow a vote on a bill that would prevent 98 percent of American families from paying higher taxes next year.

If your taxes go up by more than $2,000 in a couple weeks, there's only one reason: because a few dozen Republican representatives refuse to ask the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans to pay their fair share.

You can do something about it. Log on to the call tool today and ask fellow supporters who live in Republican districts to call their representatives now:

Voters have already made their voices heard on this issue. As the President said at his first press conference after the election:

"If there was one thing that everybody understood was a big difference between myself and Mr. Romney, it was, when it comes to how we reduce our deficit, I argued for a balanced, responsible approach, and part of that included making sure that the wealthiest Americans pay a little bit more.

"I think every voter out there understood that that was an important debate, and the majority of voters agreed with me ... by the way, more voters agreed with me on this issue than voted for me."

Yet a handful of Republicans in the House of Representatives are still fighting for the same top-down approach that's been tried -- and has failed.

Whether you voted for the President or not, he's fighting to keep taxes low for 98 percent of Americans and 97 percent of small businesses, because he believes we need to grow the economy from the middle out.

He's fighting for you. He's got your back.

We've got to get his, too. Make a few calls right now. One person reaching out to another is how we re-elected Barack Obama. It's how we'll win this fight, too. Just a few minutes of your time will make a difference.

Thanks for doing your part. More soon.


Jim Messina
Campaign Manager
Obama for America

P.S. -- If you want to make your voice in Congress heard, too, look up your representative here then call the switchboard at 202-224-3121.


Sheryl G (360)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 5:06 pm
A 2009 study conducted at Harvard Medical School and Cambridge Health Alliance, and published in the American Journal of Public Health concluded that “lack of health insurance is associated with as many as 44,789 deaths per year in the United States, more than those caused by kidney disease. …

So we should increase these numbers by making people wait longer to get medical treatment. No way.

This is what the Heartless Ones are all about, more suffering, more deaths, more hunger, the list goes on and on. Stand up to them, fight back, vote them out!

Jason S (50)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 6:25 pm
Good posting, thanks

Dotti L (85)
Wednesday December 12, 2012, 8:46 pm
No, No, this is totally unacceptable.

Karen R (87)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 5:21 am
Our healthcare systems is so screwed up!

Patricia H. (440)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 12:09 pm

Angelika R (143)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 3:48 pm
I had word tonight that THIS is off the table. Let me search that email..

Angelika R (143)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 3:57 pm
excerpt from MoveOn email, 12-13, 22:36 (my time)

BREAKING: According to the Associated Press, Senate leader Dick Durbin just announced that President Obama is no longer considering one of Republicans' major demands to cut Medicare benefits: raising the Medicare eligibility age.1 If it's true, this is huge news and means that Democrats are standing strong.

This didn't just happen by itself. We rallied in cities and towns across the country on Monday to get Senators on board to defend Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security from benefit cuts, and all week we've flooded Senate offices with thousands of phone calls. Congress and the media are noticing.2

Your senator, Kirsten Gillibrand, has already made a public commitment to defend working families and oppose any cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security benefits—giving her champion status. Champions like Sen. Gillibrand have our backs—so we need to make sure they know we've got theirs. If we can let Sen. Gillibrand know that we're behind her, she'll stand stronger, and be an example to other Senators who are wavering.

Can you call Senator Kirsten Gillibrand and thank her?

Angelika R (143)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 4:09 pm
Durbin: White House won't increase Medicare age

By By ANDREW TAYLOR, Associated Press – 3 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — One of President Barack Obama's Senate allies said Thursday that an increase in the Medicare eligibility age is "no longer one of the items being considered by the White House" in negotiations with top Republicans on avoiding the so-called fiscal cliff.

But Illinois Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin said he didn't get it directly from the president or the White House. However, he is regularly updated on the negotiations.

Increasing the eligibility age is a key demand by Republicans seeking cost curbs in popular benefit programs in exchange for higher tax revenues.

Obama and House Speaker John Boehner remain far apart on a potential agreement to avoid a looming "fiscal cliff" of expiring tax cuts and across-the-board spending cuts.

Copyright © 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Sue Matheson (79)
Thursday December 13, 2012, 7:16 pm

Dianna M (16)
Friday December 14, 2012, 2:51 pm
Let's see . . . let's pass a law to raise the retirement age, another to raise the eligibility age for Medicare and Medicaid . . . then we can let businesses fire anyone over 55, oh wait make it 50 . . . after letting them get away with plundering the promised pension plans. Hey, while we're at it, let's vote ourselves a pay raise. Damn, we've worked hard, we deserve it. It's Wednesday, let's go home for the weekend. Monday we'll have a meeting with the press to complain about all the welfare slackers to our constituents. Aw hell, Tuesday's soon enough.


Past Member (0)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 4:31 am
There is an option, tax more to cover the cost of living longer.

Lois Jordan (63)
Saturday December 15, 2012, 3:43 pm
Well, despite the above comment by Angelika 2 days ago, I read earlier that Obama has backtracked and is considering raising the Medicare age. The articles say he's caving. Sounds similar to what happened on other day Obama is defending, the next he's waffling. I'm just hoping this is being "put out there" to test the waters. But, who knows? Seems it's time to once again contact our Congress critters and POTUS with messages NOT to raise the age. Sigh!

Edith B (146)
Monday December 17, 2012, 9:33 pm
Thanks Angelika, for the update. Lois, you are so right. He seems to waffle about everything. I thought he had learned in his first term that he can't be conciliatory to the Republicans. The Baby Boomers are in peril.

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday December 18, 2012, 8:41 am
I fear you are both correct, Lois and Edith...nothing seems so sure anymore...but I can only post what's in the news and I'm of course not responsible for that being fact or not.
As goes the saying: hope for the best and prepare for the worst...

Daniel Partlow (179)
Tuesday December 25, 2012, 12:53 am
I wish they'd stop trying to screw the elderly out of their earned benefits!!
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