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Carrie
- 1630 days ago - thedailybeast.com
According to an eyewitness, 33-year-old Cédric Le Béchec, the terrorists told a man in the street to "Tell the media that this is al Qaeda in the Yemen" before carrying out their attack on Charlie Hebdo.



   

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Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday January 7, 2015, 12:15 pm
Thanks for posting this, Carrie.

Extremists are all too often psychos who hide behind religion, use fanatical propaganda to justify the unjustifiable. At least this time the condemnation has come from all over, including Muslim leaders in France and around the world - essential, to get the message across to ignorant that this is NOT Islam, and they do wrong to believe fanatics who condone such acts (or fanatics who conflate Islam with the message of extremist Islamists and fill social media with messages that Muslims believe & do such acts as part of their religion)

See Muslims Around The World Condemn Charlie Hebdo Attack. and Al-Azhar and Arab League Condemn Paris Attack

#Je suis Charlie
And my heart goes out to the families, friends & colleagues of the victims of this damnable attack.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday January 7, 2015, 12:17 pm
And isis is dancing in the streets for *the blessed operation Charlie's* vindication of the satirical cartoon of baghdadi that Hebdo recently tweeted.
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Wednesday January 7, 2015, 12:18 pm
Very scary and dangerous stuff; main news item for the UK this evening.
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday January 7, 2015, 12:19 pm
Apparently, you didn't read my previous comment on your posts, evie. Ignorant???? Who?
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Wednesday January 7, 2015, 1:02 pm

Thanks Carrie!

"Tell the media that this is al Qaeda in the Yemen" ??? He didn't hand out business cards, or did he? Sorry but couldn't help it. This is terrible enough without such statements by ... witnesses.

I was reading in "Je suis Charlie" and there are many good statements in there. Worth reading through the comments

"As a Muslim, killing innocent people in the name of Islam is much, much more offensive to me than any cartoon can ever be."

"Let's repeat: Islam the faith has nothing to do w/ this. But the Muslim world must do more to deoxygenate these strayed sons."

"To be Muslim is to constantly carry the weight of an apology that is not yours to deliver."

And so on ...
 

Past Member (0)
Wednesday January 7, 2015, 1:38 pm
Of course the witness was lying !!!!!!

* But the Muslim world must do more to deoxygenate these strayed sons." * Well....let's see some action.
 

Barb K (1685)
Wednesday January 7, 2015, 4:44 pm
Scary :(
 

Lona Goudswaard (66)
Wednesday January 7, 2015, 7:02 pm
This news is hot everywhere, as is the assumption that the gunmen belong to Al Qaeda's branch in Yemen. I hope the gunmen are found and arrested very soon so this can be verified to bring an end to all speculation about the background and motives of this attack. On the news here in Australia one reporter in France was talking about ISIS, Al Qaeda and deemed it necessary to point to the disturbed Palestinian-Israeli relationship as if it had a direct relationship with this foul attack. I found it both puzzling and improper: this horrible act of terrorism and the shock and grief of a country shouldn't be diminished or pushed aside by whatever is happening in Israel.
 

fly bird (26)
Wednesday January 7, 2015, 9:29 pm
Commitment to freedom of expression is a sound principle, and should be held up for all.
The French have assembled tonight, united.
Extremists are responsible for this heinous act.
"These are a minority, extremists, absolutely not representative of the Muslim population."
Presse Francaise.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Wednesday January 7, 2015, 10:54 pm

Hi Lona - you're absolutely right in what you're saying! "... deemed it necessary to point to the disturbed Palestinian-Israeli relationship as if it had a direct relationship with this foul attack."

This is an utterly cheap and despicable attempt in justifying an unjustifiable act. Those who committed this crime are simply that: criminals and need to get the full force of the law. The Israel/Palestinian occupation is not the naval of the world and to make a connection there is rotten.

It seems the 18-yr old assassin has turned himself in and the other two should (against all hope) follow suit or are caught - the sooner the better.

As Jess said so correctly: Extremists are responsible for this heinous act and instead of bashing and lashing out at everyone adhering to Islam we all should combat extremism on all sides. What is mainly done now is to FEED extremism on both sides and it begets the question: "Qui Bono?"

Who profits from continuously feeding the fire and once there is some calm ... the next heinous act occurs and it starts all over again. How come nobody ever asks this logical question?

Stay safe!

 

Shirley S (187)
Wednesday January 7, 2015, 11:30 pm
Another COWARDLY act.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Wednesday January 7, 2015, 11:31 pm

I forgot to add that yesterday the Danish newspaper re-published the cartoons of Mohamed which caused an uproar way back then ... again. To proof what? Qui Bono?
 

Gillian M (11)
Thursday January 8, 2015, 1:18 am
carrie, you've posted the story and? It doesn't change the fact that you haven't condemned these actions. AND THEY ARE NO DIFFERENT TO THOSE OF HAMAS, AL QUAEDA, THE TALIBAN, HEZBOLLAH AND ALL OF THE OTHER MUSLIM TERRORIST GROUPS THAT ATTACK ISRAEL.

Evelyn & Eleanora, what a cop out. You say that a couple of extremists attacked the offices and are not happy with it. Do any of you think that Israel is having to deal with this day and and day out as well as every night? Yet all you do is condemn them for protecting their own. It's different when it happens elsewhere though and you are happy to pretend you care! RACIST! You really show your true colours here.

This is Islam and some 15 - 25% of Muslims are Islamists. Some 1.8 billion people are Muslims making 270 million to 450 million Islamists.

As always, my heart goes out to these people, their families and the French communitiy.
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Thursday January 8, 2015, 1:52 am

To Penny - thank you for modifying the ever so often read comment in various threads under various names. I also note with amusement that your avatar has changed again.

1. Whereas I never shy away from good and proper debates in which meaningful arguments and points are raised - even if we don't share the same views and values - I will in the future ignore your comments as you don't seem to give a hoot about the ToS nor do you intent to exchange views. Your intent is to spread hate and incite while lashing out at everyone in your way.

2. I do in general not answer to unqualified, libelous and/or racist and/or slanderous and/or ad hominem attacks as replying in kind is against my set of ethic values as well as against the Terms of Service of Care2 which is our host.

3. Israel is NOT the naval of the world against which everything else pales - so can you please keep it out for once although you'd like nothing more than to bring it in yet again? Thank you.

It was/is your choice!
 

Eleonora Oldani (37)
Thursday January 8, 2015, 1:55 am

A last bit of info which came in just now:

Many question marks are definitely hanging around this whole story and more keep popping up in the French/European and international media as it unfolds.

1 These criminals were under surveillance as they were known to the French police as being (Al Qaida) terrorists.

2. The building in which CH was located was since the arson attack 2011 heavily guarded.

3. This happens at a time when the French police is on high alert (because of the general situation in France and particularly New Year) and all vacations/holidays are cancelled.

Nevertheless the “terrorists” comfortably and seemingly at leisure carried out such massive operation.

I wonder what will further unfold.

Looking at this tragedy in taking two steps back some more questions come to mind:

1. How far does “freedom of expression” go and when should professional responsibility kick in?

2. In today’s heated world climate – with ISIS, Al Qaida, Boko Haram and all other strange extremists groups popping up under the fig leaf of “Islam” – is it truly wise to further agitate an already explosive situation – knowing full well what the reaction could be?

3. Why is our “freedom of expression” so selectively invoked and applied? Depending on who I slash and bash I get away with it or face legal actions with jail sentences; at least in most European countries this is the case.

That’s not my idea of “freedom of expression” but rather “freedom of oppression”. I’m in the powerful situation – as politician, lawmaker or interest group – that I can silence whomever I want. Doesn’t this bother anyone with an intact sense of impartiality?

This is not to condone any of such brutal crimes – I don’t need to emphasize this. It would be great if everybody would argue any case of dispute with words rather than shedding blood.

But in view of the above points I can’t help but have a very uneasy feeling.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 8, 2015, 4:28 am
Explain to me why nearly everywhere in the world everyone, every street, every building, must be MORE than heavily guarded against terroristic attacks. Why governments invest billions in investigation and surveillance of both individual terrorists and terrorist cells worldwide?
Why do we get a daily report of the day's Threat Level?
 

Arild Warud (174)
Thursday January 8, 2015, 4:46 am
The world is not at war with Muslims,the world fight extremists wherever they are,whatever religion they claim to belong to.
 

ewoud k (68)
Thursday January 8, 2015, 11:46 am
Just to get the facts straight:

the 18-year old alleged assassin was in class at the moment the shooting took place, so had nothing to do at all with these killings, and went to the police once word got out he was sought.


Secondly, as said Charb (Stéphane Charbonnier, cartoonist at CH): I'd rather die standing than live on my knees (je préfère mourir debout que vivre agenouillé).

As said Winston Churchill a long time ago: We'll never surrender.


Maybe CH wasn't always funny, maybe sometimes their cartoons were hard (too hard even?), they never wounded or killed anyone. They fought intolerance, they fought discrimination, exclusion, racism etc.

Killed, wiped out by two criminals who now have their moment of world-wide attention.

Two criminals who choose the wrong victims, as Charly Hebdo will now be remembered for a long time.

People started yesterday to really think about tolerance, freedom of expression, freedom of thought.

 

Carrie B (306)
Thursday January 8, 2015, 11:49 am
Thank you Ewoud.
 

fly bird (26)
Thursday January 8, 2015, 12:17 pm
You have somenerve, Penny Baxter, falsely accusing Carrie. It's obvious to all of us, why she has posted this - and you are, surely, aware of how she feels about any injustice and cruelty toward innocents.

Your comment is inaccurate, and used as a platform to vent other personal issues. Focusing on these victims and what they stood for, rather than trying to bully Carrie, or reading Ewoud's comment, would be more helpful.
Thank you Ewoud.
 

Carrie B (306)
Thursday January 8, 2015, 12:24 pm
Jess, we all know that a few here have a personal agenda of hate, bigotry and intolerance. I could spend all of my time responding to their ridiculous and obvious lies about me or I could just consider the source.

My only interest in the people who leave disparaging personal comments about me is a mild curiosity about what has made them so dishonest, mean spirited, and angry with the world outside of their own self righteous little circle.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 8, 2015, 12:52 pm
You're developing quite a fan club! And I don't mean jbsc.

* The youngest of the three suspects in the Wednesday terror attack at Charlie Hebdo magazine office in Paris, 18-year-old Hamyd Mourad turned himself in to police claiming he is innocent, French iTele TV Channel said Thursday.*
 

M B (62)
Thursday January 8, 2015, 1:26 pm
Don't feed the Troll.
Thanks for posting Carrie
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday January 8, 2015, 1:46 pm
Thanks, Monka. Maybe she'll listen to you as all she seems to want to do is throw churlish, childish insults into the soup pot. It's a sickening brew.
 
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