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Caitlyn Jenner Is Pissing Off Feminists and Bigots ~ Good For Her


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Carrie
- 1444 days ago - thedailybeast.com
The Vanity Fair trans cover star has faced hostility from the often-transphobic Right she claims as her own, as well as old-school feminists who question her womanhood and her wardrobe.



   

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Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 9, 2015, 2:21 pm
You can't please everybody. Nobody can.
Just happy she is who she has always felt like.
Can't imagine .
Thank you Carrie.
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 9, 2015, 2:23 pm
I would rather see Lauren Hill get the Arthur Ash Courage Award at the Espy's. But Caitlyn will be a beacon for the sports world.
 

Kathleen M (208)
Tuesday June 9, 2015, 3:44 pm
Shared and noted. Thanks, Carrie!
 

Past Member (0)
Tuesday June 9, 2015, 4:03 pm
Think people are just getting real tired of this story. The media is just milking it. thx Carrie
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Tuesday June 9, 2015, 4:52 pm
There are worst things going on in the world to report on. . .
 

Terry King (113)
Tuesday June 9, 2015, 7:00 pm
I agree with Natasha... People are sick of the Kardashians and let's not lose sight of the fact that this whole thing is set to spawn another ridiculous reality show.
 

Carrie B (306)
Tuesday June 9, 2015, 7:01 pm
For the record ~ the names Kardashian and Jenner are not interchangeable.
 

Terry King (113)
Tuesday June 9, 2015, 7:05 pm
For the record.... The two names are permanently linked by reality television and their identical penchant for attention whoring.
 

Carrie B (306)
Tuesday June 9, 2015, 7:07 pm
Your opinion Terry. I'm no fan of reality TV, but I do think Jenner deserves to have her story told. Her misfortune to have been married to Kardashian, but she isn't now and shouldn't have to pay for that mistake forever.
 

Terry King (113)
Tuesday June 9, 2015, 7:33 pm
We will have to agree to disagree.
 

Animae C (508)
Tuesday June 9, 2015, 7:55 pm
i think she's very beautiful, it's important to get her story out, also for acceptance of all Transgender people!
 

Mitchell D (82)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 7:09 am
Neil Cavuto shows just how imbecilic one can be, when one buys into religious delusional ideas.
Elinor Burkett, on the other hand misses the point, totally. I read a bunch of her article, until the nausea began to bubble: Yes, Caitlyn did not have the same experiences, throughout her life that so many, if not all girsl/women have, at the hands and eyes of the males whom they come across, such as sitting in a business meeting and having men talk to their breasts!
And, maybe it it unfortunate that Caitlyn used the phrase about having a female brain, but how else explain the realization that your inner self is female, though born into a male body. My point is that Caitlyn, or any other transgendered person has brain wiring associated with the gender with which he/she identifies; otherwise there would be no such thing as "transgender."
The brain runs the hormones, which, in turn, drive our body sense, if you will; drive hunger, thirst, sexual response, etc. all the way down the line. In this same sense, it drives our happiness set points, as a further example of how it defines who we are, from inside.
Please, do not interpret this as a defense of the idea that biology is destiny, in the sense that if one is female one must, therefore be happy with, settle for, being barefoot and pregnant...oh, and doing dishes.
 

Carrie B (306)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 7:58 am
My response to Terry disappeared. How weird. I agree to disagree. LOL!
 

Carrie B (306)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 7:58 am
Thank you for the insightful comment, Mitch.
 

Dotti L (85)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 9:21 am
Carrie, thank yo for this article and Mitchell for your comment. I am 100% behind Caitlyn. Now, if she would just change her political affiliation.
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 10:10 am
EXCELLENT article! I thoroly agree.

It's conveniently FORGOTTEN now, but the Left used to be JUST AS ANTI-GAY AS THE REST OF SOCIETY.
Gay people on the Left had to STAY HIDDEN. Being Gay was "Bourgeois Decadence" and Comes-Da-Ravolushun nobody would have to be decadent and Gay any more! Oh good!
I AM OLD ENUF TO REMEMBER THOSE DAYS WELL.
The Communist and Trotskyist Parties EVEN HAD ANTI-GAY RULES SPELLED OUT in their Party rulebooks! Found-out Gays summarily EXPELLED... These rules lasted for DECADES.

THE EARLY FEMINIST MOVEMENT WAS ALSO ANTI-GAY. Betty Friedan and others spoke of, quote, "THE LAVENDER MENACE" of Lesbians, unquote! These sinister types supposedly SUBVERTED the Feminist movement...
OH HOW SOON WE FORGET!!!
The Left and the Feminists soon saw they were ignoring and sacrificing some of their STRONGEST SUPPORTERS, and their "appeal to the Public" they were so concerned about - it BACKFIRED! When the LGBT Movement ITSELF got big, THEN the Left and Feminists realized their enormous P.R. MISTAKE!

The dogmatic Left - and I remember it SO WELL! - was VERY VERY anti-Trans!!!
This even after being "Gay" got so popular on the Left, that every "Leftist" woman, Gay or not, had to dress and appear like a "dyke"... people around at that time will REMEMBER that!!!
The early Feminists, even after denying "The Lavender Menace", were STILL very anti-Trans, and their leaders made some EXTREMELY CRUEL STATEMENTS.
MOST Feminists have come around, thank goodness, but as you can see here, some still hold out...

There is an Academic Feminist Theory, that being "Male or Female" is NOTHING BUT INDOCTRINATION.
This silly theory was disproved by Parents who tried to raise "gender-neutral" kids. Most girls still liked "girly toys and clothes" and boys liked traditional boy things. In spite of the best efforts of their parents to quell this. Most, not necessarily all. {I was a gender-neutral kid myself - liking both. But I'm I guess unusual...}

Some day, let's hope soon, these hold-out Feminists and Leftists will be TERRIBLY EMBARRASSED at not only their SCIENTIFIC IGNORANCE, but their CRUELTY AND INHUMANITY.....
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 10:30 am
Re-posted my comment in the Care2 group GLBT Rights Global.

This is all a part of LGBT History that SHOULD NOT BE FORGOTTEN.
It wasn't all, and still isn't, Rainbows and Unicorns!
There was, and still is, REAL SUFFERING - even coming at you from directions that SHOULD have been friendly and positive...
 

Mitchell D (82)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 10:46 am
P.S.:
I left out another point, in my earlier posting,: that is that the unfortunate experiences Ms. Burkett has had in society, that are uniquely a woman's are not what makes her female
 

Beth S (330)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 12:42 pm
Of course, feminists have been totally quiet about a number of things done to women and LGBTs.

For example, if Jennifer were to go to Iran, she would be treated to large, laughing crowds with cameras and video records, waiting with anticipation to have a noose tied around her neck, with the other end attached to a crane, so that it would slowly pull her up in the air and slowly and painfully cause her to strangle and spasm to death.

However, in a number of Sunni countries, and under ISIS, Jennifer would instead be held by her feet from the top of a building many stories high and let go to fall through the air and come crashing to her death on the pavement below. This is also attended by happy fans waiting for such an exciting spectacle.

Yet other countries, like Afghanistan would bury her waist-deep in a hole in the ground and plow a chest high mound of rocks over her, often with the aid of a bulldozer -- saves so much time that way.

This happens to gays in many Islamic countries, and we post the articles, yet few from the commentors here deign to look, note and comment. About on par with the feminists who are silent in the face of horrific murders of gays in Islamic countries -- and often about the horrific treatment of Muslim females.

One can't help but wonder, why such conspicuous silence.
 

Joanne Dixon (37)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 1:08 pm
It seems like we can't make up our own minds. One day we are complaining that a high school woman lost a position for wearing a sundress - the next we are complaining that Caitlyn is showing too much skin. Couldn't we manage to treat people as individuals with individual quirks?
 

Beth S (330)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 1:25 pm
Whoops, I meant Caitlyn rather than Jennifer.
 

Carrie B (306)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 1:44 pm
Yet in Iran she would be welcomed, Beth.
 

Birgit W (160)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 2:14 pm
I agree with Joanne Dixon's comment. Thanks.
 

pam w (139)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 2:46 pm
I'm a feminist and have used that term since the first time I heard it...back in the 70s.

Feminism means women can live their lives true to themselves....wear what they wish, promote themselves as they wish....keep their own values and principles foremost in their lives.

To hell with everyone else.
 

Thomaz de Aquin Alves Fonseca (59)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 6:28 pm
Thanks Carrie ... shared.
 

Edith B (146)
Wednesday June 10, 2015, 9:41 pm
I consider myself a feminist and I feel sorry that Bruce had to live so long pretending to be male, it must have been horrible, especially since he was the darling of the sports world. I say it is Caitlyn's business what she wears and how she acts, just as it is any other woman's right. I am not a fan of reality shows and have never understand how the Kardashians got so rich on their looks so I probably will never see the new show.
 

Arild Warud (174)
Thursday June 11, 2015, 3:03 am
Thanks Carrie,don'i you have more serious problems in the USA???
 

pam w (139)
Thursday June 11, 2015, 5:14 am
Arild, if you look at it from the perspective of a generally well-regarded sports star, who reveals a life-long struggle with gender mis-identity, "coming out" in a very public way.....this IS a serious thing! Caitlyn Jenner will shine a light on something which is often hidden, ridiculed and maligned by ignorant people who have neither education nor empathy.

So--earth-shaking? Of course not! Important to the many who share her dilemma in a shuttered closet?....YES!
 

Janis K (129)
Thursday June 11, 2015, 10:10 am
Thanks for sharing
 

Louise D (44)
Thursday June 11, 2015, 12:37 pm
Well I have had quite a chuckle about Rush Limbaugh complaining about the fact that Caitlyn Jenner still has a penis, for a man who has one on his head he really should stop talking about other people's genitals. As Jenner is a Republican the Conservatives are having an existential crisis even though she is giving them a spot of street cred that they have been desperately needing.
 

Jonathan Harper (0)
Friday June 12, 2015, 2:05 am
Noted
 

Evelyn B (63)
Thursday June 18, 2015, 11:29 am
Why do racists have to try to divert the topic? Irrelevant ...

Feminist journalist Elinor Burkett clearly has a homophobia problem (or is in the closet????) because there are many women - born female - who still assume roles and behaviour of "sexy females". They accept opportunities to promote images that fit the same profile as she slams when Caitlyn does it .... whether just because it suits the income-earning interest, or because they are proud of who & what they are ...... For example, 8 female TV presenters in Venezuela who have just made a video of themselves in the nude, to encourage their football team to play even better ...... Caitlyn hasn't gone so far in using her female body ..... Maybe Elinor Burkett has got herself stuck in an inversed "stereotype mentality"?

Meanwhile, as long as Caitlyn isn't forcing others to behave against their own nature - and she doesn't appear to be -, may she thorough enjoy living in a body that fits her mental image of herself, and in which she feels at ease.
 

Diane K (134)
Friday June 19, 2015, 5:13 am
Thanks
 

Anne P (174)
Wednesday June 24, 2015, 5:37 am
If only Caitlyn would rethink her allegiance to the Republican party. They are only her friends because she is wealthy.
 
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