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Latin America and the Caribbean Approve New Regional Group, Without U.S.


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Simon
- 3270 days ago - venezuelanalysis.com
A few years ago, the governments of Latin America had been like an orchestra conducted by Washington, "a choir or an orchestra that sang to neoliberalism" but now the map is considerably different. Now Latin America & the Caribbean move towards unity : )



   

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Carole Sarcinello (338)
Friday March 5, 2010, 6:41 am

Your opening quote (about Latin American governments being conducted by Washington) says it all, Simon.

Thanks!
 

Cheryl B (375)
Friday March 5, 2010, 6:49 am
without US and Canada its partner in crime, noted
 

Luisa Fox (144)
Friday March 5, 2010, 7:17 am
Noted Simon. Excellent post.

It's about time Latin America and the Caribbean Region took steps to sever the US noose of hegemony and imperialism in the Region.

Adelante compañero...
 

Marty H (119)
Friday March 5, 2010, 7:23 am
Thanks Simon and noted...
 

Ellinor S (41)
Friday March 5, 2010, 7:26 am
thank you
 

Simon Wood (207)
Friday March 5, 2010, 7:28 am
Good on you for your kind and generous comments everyone! : )

And good on you everyone who read and/or noted this article! : )
 

David S (55)
Friday March 5, 2010, 8:21 am
I agree it is consistent with Simon Bolivar's vision of a free and unified Latin America able to speak with one voice on important issues and to create and choose it's own destiny free of the continuation of colonial rule and colonial economics. I think this is an important step in that goal.
 

. (0)
Friday March 5, 2010, 10:21 am
Excellent. Now the U.S. can stop all foreign aid to Latin America and the Caribbean. Since obviously that region has no need for the U.S. - or its aid dollars taken from the pockets of the American taxpayer.

I will be interested to see how well this organization works in future.
 

Luisa Fox (144)
Friday March 5, 2010, 10:57 am


Linsey wrote:
Since obviously that region has no need for the U.S. - or its aid dollars taken from the pockets of the American taxpayer.
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Linsey, obviously you have little or no background, if any, on history of Latin America. so the only comment you can make is based on the idea that the US as a benevolent nation who gives out money for naught. It is precisely because of the imperialistic hegemony and exploitation of natural resources by the US that Latin America has finally made their move.
Linsey, "that region" as you say, is rich in natural sources, Venezuela has OIL, tin, copper, etc - I would imagine Latin American and the Caribbean Region will be very pleased to get rid of the US and our dollars. Believe me. What Latin America has to beware of now is China.
Latin America's rich resources have been attracting a great deal of interest from China
CHINA FIRST went to Africa to satisfy its thirst for natural resources. Now Latin America is on the itinerary. Will China get the oil, tin, iron and other natural resources that it needs to maintain a growth rate that is not only the envy of the world but also the foundation of its uncertain social stability?"

 

. (0)
Friday March 5, 2010, 11:11 am
Then I suppose they will have to deal with China. And I'm sure China will deal with them fairly and equitably with regard to its oil needs, so everyone will benefit.

A good solution all around.
 

Luisa Fox (144)
Friday March 5, 2010, 11:28 am


Linsey wrote: Then I suppose they will have to deal with China.
Wrong Linsey. Latin America doesn't "have to" deal with anyone they don't want to. The New Regional Group has negociating power. Which means, Latin America is in a position to negociate with whom ever will benefit the region and people. By breaking away from US economic predominence they "choose" not to deal with the US, in the same manner they can choose not to deal with China.
This will depand on the new Latin American Regional Group which by breaking away from the claws of US imperialism is not inclined to get caught in the same exploitation again because this is why they broke away in the first place. Get it?

 

. (0)
Friday March 5, 2010, 11:56 am
Yes, and if they wish to do business with China they will, of course, have to deal with China. And, as I said, I'm sure it will be a beneficial relationship all around. China is noted for that, I believe.
 

Yvonne White (229)
Friday March 5, 2010, 2:49 pm
I'm sure they'd ALL be better off without our interference!
 

Simon Wood (207)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 12:18 am
Lindsey O wrote: "Excellent. Now the U.S. can stop all foreign aid to Latin America and the Caribbean. Since obviously that region has no need for the U.S. - or its aid dollars taken from the pockets of the American taxpayer."

The U.S. has a lot of demand for Latin America's products. E.g. the U.S. buys a significant amount of its oil from Venezuela.

And the USA plunders hundreds of billions of dollars in net wealth from the Third World each year. The first world gives about U.S.$50 billion aid to the Third World each year, but the first world TAKES about U.S.$550 billion FROM the Third World each year. This means a net flow of about U.S.$500 billion wealth from the Third World to the first world, each year. And a HUGE chunk of that wealth (more than U.S.$100 billion) goes to the most powerful country on Earth: the USA, where most of the world's richest and most powerful people and multinational corporations are based.

My point is that the USA (mainly the megarich U.S. capitalist class, not the majority of U.S. people) takes more than it gives to the people of Latin America and the Caribbean. Thus, like Yvonne White said, they'd ALL be better off without our interference!
 

Simon Wood (207)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 12:31 am
When the countries of Latin America unite and integrate more, and diversify their international relations, they increase their negotiating power, like Luisa said. This enables them to get much more equal economic deals with other countries.
 

Retno Dewi (7)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 12:36 am
That's great step that the Latin America and Caribbean had take without interference from US, and Latin America and Caribbean could choose which country they want to deal with,,probably they would have their own confident
 

Simon Wood (207)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 12:46 am
It's great to see you posting here, David, Luisa and Yvonne : )
 

Simon Wood (207)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 1:16 am
I am happy to see you posting a comment here, Re : )
 

Tim Redfern (581)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 8:37 am
Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez said the organisation was important as a continuation of the dream of liberation fighter Simon Bolivar and as a resumption of the path towards a union of the countries in one single political body,
“We have faith [in this] because we have amassed strength, because history is on our side and because the people are waking up,” Chavez said.
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Yes, indeed, the people ARE waking up, and they are waking up to the truth!
Earlier this week, I read an article in a Christian magazine which said the
United States is an empire on a serious decline, that the European Union will be
the next global superpower, militarily and economically, and I believe it.
Though it's a tragic thing to be alive at a time whe one's country is imploding,
the United States has brought this decline upon itself.......and deserves it.

Bravo and Kudos to Latin America and the Caribbean for forming this alliance,
and leaving the U.S. and Canada out of it. I wish them every success!

Thank you kindly, Simon! :-)
noted.


 

Tim Redfern (581)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 8:37 am
You cannot currently send a star to Simon because you have done so within the last week.
 

. (0)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 8:58 am
True, Tim. The U.S. is decidedly on the decline. And the reasons largely mirror that most famous of all declines - a populace grown soft, irresponsible, weak and dependent on its bread and circuses while the hardier barbarians clash their armor and test the borders. And a populace grown so foolish that it will issue gilt-edged invitations to those same destroyers.

Hopefully I will no longer be alive when the worst arrives. And I wonder how long the new order of things will last before those that follow destroy their civilization as well? Frankly, I doubt they'll last as long as we did.
 

Barbara T (431)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 9:09 am
'“We have faith [in this] because we have amassed strength, because history is on our side and because the people are waking up,” Chavez said.
...................

However, Chavez said there could be obstacles, “Without doubt we’ll have strong opponents to achieving unity...[such as] the North American empire and its large capacity for open and hidden actions to generate ...friction.”'
=============================

Very smart move, forming an alliance without the U.S. The unilateral "Monroe Doctrine" invalidated! Ho Ho.

Yes, the power balance is definitely shifting. Using up U.S. economic resources in a SERIES of unwinnable imperialist wars, has done its share to weaken the U.S.! {Tho at a tremendous cost to other peoples we made war on.}

The world is aware now too, about the CIA and their dirty tricks. Including more and more knowledge spreading WITHIN the U.S. population itself.
Speaking of which.....
Very NICE to have the APOLOGISTS for the Capitalist Corporate Profit-taking U.S. policies appear -- do they follow you everywhere, Simon? :-D -- so you and others can MORE FULLY ANSWER THEIR IRRELEVANT OBJECTIONS. :-D
BMutinyTheCorporationsAreEvil

 

Tim Redfern (581)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 9:17 am
You cannot currently send a star to BMutiny because you have done so within the last week.
 

Barbara T (431)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 9:22 am
Yah, the U.S. is really decadent, what with Gay Marriage and all.... THAT is what is bringing us down! GLBTQ Rights! Divorce! Abortion! Hedonistic sex! Internet porn! Obscene rock music lyrics! Legalizing Marijuana! THOSE are the major Social Dis-functions of the day!

NOT homelessness, joblessness, no health care, high maternal and infant death rate, poverty, disease, malnourishment, mental illness untreated, lack of education...... naaaaah. THOSE aren't what weakens a country......

Sorry for the digression. Been on my mind recently. Couldn't resist.
BMutinyTheCorporationsAreEvil
 

Tim Redfern (581)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 9:30 am
Never resist speaking your mind, BMutiny.
I wanna be you when I grow up! :-)
 

Luisa Fox (144)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 9:53 am



American media sources are not reporting this very important historical move by Latin America to create a "new mechanism for political agreements" and to promote the unity of the states of Latin America and the Caribbean and in the long term weave the countries together into a formal union.

What is be interesting to maintain touch with will be the US response to Latin America by the religious right.

The sole goal of U.S. policy in Latin America follows the direction set by these right-wing religious groups, bringing democracy, capitalism and American values, backed by military force. While many may agree with the goals, which also eliminate reason as a guide to U.S. foreign policy the approach of the religious right proves counterproductive.
counterpunch
 

. (0)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 10:46 am
Yes, BMutiny, so many of the Ultra-right, Pat Robertson-types would love to convince more of us that drugs, sex, and rock'n'roll are responsible for our moral decay. When it's a mindset of victimology, irresponsibility, and groupthink that has pushed us on the downward path. I mourn the gradual passing of the rights and responsibilities of the individual human being. I think someday the world is going to regret his loss.
 

Tim Redfern (581)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 10:52 am
I would add that this country is collapsing
under the weight of it's immorality, greed,
debt, imperailism, and nationalism.
 

Luisa Fox (144)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 11:08 am
Agreed Pastor Tim...
 

Simon Wood (207)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 4:15 pm
The Third World are on a campaign to free themselves from the first world's imperialist oppression and exploitation, and the culture/society inside the USA is irrelevant: there is NOTHING that you can do to stop people becoming free of U.S. imperialism.

I.e.: NO YOU CAN'T.
 

. (0)
Saturday March 6, 2010, 4:31 pm
Entirely right, Simon. They will do as they please.
 

Barbara T (431)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 3:49 am
"Victimology" is a buzzword of the Right that is CODE for:

When women, gays, black people, any ethnic minority, the homeless, the mentally ill, etc., ORGANIZE THEMSELVES TO FIGHT FOR THEIR RIGHTS;
it is NOTHING BUT "victimology", i.e., those poor fools {mis-led by money-grubbin' Commies or they wouldn't go that way}
PERCEIVE THEMSELVES as "victims"; THAT is the problem, the ONLY problem!

How could there POSSIBLY be "victims" in this most PERFECT of all known Societies?????

So, according to VICTIMOLOGY, we DON'T NEED TO TAKE ANY OF THEM SERIOUSLY.
They are nothing but poor, neurotic, mis-led fools who are induced to WRONGLY {and selfishly!} PERCEIVE THEMSELVES as quote "victims" unquote.

So, lawmakers and voters and those who hold the pursestrings tight,
YOU SHOULDN'T PAY ANY ATTENTION TO THEM.
Then when like little kids you don't pay attention to them, they and their IMAGINARY "problems", will go away........
Naaaaaaaaah..........

I have recently been immersing myself in reading Right-wing propaganda, to get a handle on their methods..... tho it feels like I've been SLIMED, every time I get thru another chapter or book....... Ecchhhhh.......

BMutiny TheCorporationsAreEvil
 

Barbara T (431)
Sunday March 7, 2010, 4:13 am
'The Third World are on a campaign to free themselves from the first world's imperialist oppression and exploitation, and the culture/society inside the USA is irrelevant: there is NOTHING that you can do to stop people becoming free of U.S. imperialism.'

Quite right, Simon.
And, as I said b4, Sorry about the off-topic digression.

But, I do think that U.S. military WEAKNESS, being bled-to-death in wars-for-Oil, has prevented new U.S. INVASIONS of Venezuela and Cuba that would be met with extremely strong resistance, of course, there.

U.S. military WEAKNESS and being over-extended and furiously in debt, hasn't prevented U.S. INVASION OF EARTHQUAKE-DEVASTATED HAITI. Every time I read about EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE, WHEN TIME WAS OF THE ESSENCE, BEING HALTED OR DELAYED BY THE U.S. MILITARY IN HAITI, I get so angry and frustrated.......
But of course Haiti was HELPLESS; so an invasion was EASY. DAMNED COWARDS!!!!!!!!!! COWARDS!!!!!!!!! COWARDS!!!!!!!!!!
YES, WE ARE OCCUPYING HAITI.
ALL AIRCRAFT RIGHT NOW, NEED U.S. PERMISSION TO LAND.
THIS IS NOT HAITIAN "SOVEREIGNTY"!
[Good thing that VENEZUELAN AND CUBAN FIRST-RESPONSE EMERGENCY MEDICAL AID TO HAITI, was there DAYS BEFORE THE U.S. MILITARY got there! The U.S. Military might have, out of U.S. jealousy, stopped it if they could!]
WE WILL NEVER KNOW HOW MANY HAITIANS, AND HOW MANY HAITIAN CHILDREN, DIED BECAUSE OF U.S. MILITARY INTERFERENCE WITH MEDICAL AID. DIED!
And meanwhile, "important" U.S. figures were using those aircraft landings the U.S. Military WERE allowing, for photo ops.... not naming names, there were MANY of them.......
Sorry, another DIGRESSION here, can't stop myself! Too overcharged with the need to say these things somewhere.......

ANYway, I do think it was because of the bloody SACRIFICES of RESISTANCE by Iraqis, Afghans, {and before that, of Vietnamese}, and other Resisters, that this country has SHOWN ITS WEAKNESS BEFORE THE ENTIRE WORLD;
and that is in part what has ENCOURAGED Latin Americans and Caribbeans to SASS US, DEFY US, IGNORE US, STAND UP AGAINST US LIKE THIS...... YAY FOR THEM!!!
 

Anne T (180)
Monday March 8, 2010, 4:30 pm
Signed and shared!
 

Simon Wood (207)
Wednesday March 10, 2010, 5:00 am
I agree with what you wrote, BMutiny : )
 

Simon Wood (207)
Wednesday March 10, 2010, 5:01 am
Good on you for that, Elfmagic : )
 
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