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Erdogan Claims Muslims Beat Columbus to the Americas


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Beatrice
- 1643 days ago - telegraph.co.uk
Muslims discovered the Americas in the 12 century, nearly 300 years before Christopher Columbus made his famous voyage there, according to Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the president of Turkey. His words, delivered in a televised speech, will lend support to



   

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Beatrice B (112)
Monday November 17, 2014, 3:38 am
Muslims discovered the Americas in the 12 century, nearly 300 years before Christopher Columbus made his famous voyage there, according to Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the president of Turkey.
His words, delivered in a televised speech, will lend support to a controversial theory that has been debunked repeatedly by historians.
That did not seem to bother the conservative Turkish president during a summit in Istanbul of Muslim leaders from Latin America.
"Contacts between Latin America and Islam date back to the 12th century. Muslims discovered America in 1178, not Christopher Columbus," he said.
Mr Erdogan went on to say that Columbus descibed the existence of a mosque on a hill by the Cuban site and that Ankara was prepared to fund a new place of worship for Muslims there.
"I would like to talk about it to my Cuban brothers. A mosque would go perfectly on the hill today," the Turkish leader said.
History books say that Columbus set foot on the American continent in 1492 as he was seeking a new maritime route to India. Other accounts suggest he may have been beaten there by Leif Erikson, a Norse explorer, or by the ancient Phoenicians
A tiny minority of Muslim scholars have recently suggested a prior Muslim presence in the Americas, although no pre-Columbus ruin of an Islamic structure has ever been found.
In a controversial article published in 1996, historian Youssef Mroueh refers to a diary entry from Columbus that mentions a mosque in Cuba. But the passage is widely understood to be a metaphorical reference to the shape of the landscape.
And while Columbus is frequently credited with discovering the country that became the US, he actually never set foot in it, exploring instead the Carribean and the South and Central American coastlines.
 

Rahman Qureshi (27)
Monday November 17, 2014, 3:55 am
He is yet another delusional Muslim, but worse and I'll tell you why in a moment. The Muslim mind has been poisoned with messages of Islamic supremacism, as Qur'an 3:110 teaches Muslims they are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, while the "holy" Qur'an calls the rest of us "najisun" in Qur'an 9:28, which refers to non-Muslims as filthy, as in filthy like feces.

Now for why this Muslim's statement is so dangerous. Islamic teaching is that once a land was Islamic, it forever belongs to Muslims. This is why Muslims are going after Spain, for example. Spain was once Muslim, and Muslims are trying to claim Spain for Islam. By such an influential Muslim saying that Muslims were in America first, he is telling the Muslim world to attack America, as if Muslims needed any more incentive to do so with their terrorist Qur'an and Muhammad doctrine already teaching them that.

In a sense, we can thank Muslims for the discovery of America, but not in a way Muslims would like known. Because 40 years earlier Muslims has cut off the land route, Columbus set sail going the other way, and eventually ended up in America thinking he was in India. Had the land route to India been unblocked by Muslims, perhaps Westerners would have never discovered America.

In the same line of thought, we can thank Muslims for our Marines and Navy. Our Founding Fathers invested in these to blast Muslims back to the 7th century. Why? Because Muslims were attacking our trade ships and enslaving Americans. Our federal budget was up to 20% paying Muslims not to attack us, but they still did. So our Marine unit was formed and the Navy and that is why the Marine battle hymn says "to the shores of Tripoli" because that is where we took the counter-jihad fight to.

During these Muslim raids on Western countries, Muslims enslaved 1,000,000 white people. The women, as prescribed in Islam, were used as sex slaves, and the men were made slaves. White males didn't have it as bad as black males as Muslims ran the African slave trade. White males had their testicles removed so they could be servants of Muslim women. But the Muslims really did a number on black males, as they cut off their penises and testicles without anesthesia. The Trans-Sahara slave trade of Africans was so brutal. As a result of Muslims running the African slave trade, 120 million Africans died.

But we never hear about the Muslim slave trade of whites and blacks, which has been going on since Islam began and continues in the Muslim world today, as 800,000 black slaves of Muslims exist TODAY in Muslim-majority Mauritania. All that is taught in history (though we ended it long ago) is America's period with slavery, even though more whites were enslaved by Muslims than blacks brought to America. Also the Muslim enslavement of blacks was over 130 times more, but no focus is put on that. Muslim doctrine assumes slavery, and Muslim doctrine contains the vilest things anyone can say about blacks, such as Muhammad calling a black man raisin head and Muslims putting to death anyone who said Muhammad was black because Islamic doctrine teaches Muhammad was white.
 

Eva D (1)
Monday November 17, 2014, 4:13 am
This man is dangerous. Thanks, Rahman, for your awesome explanation!
 

Shil O (0)
Monday November 17, 2014, 4:21 am
of course everyone knows mohammedans have designs on everything
and I suppose like science they could could do nothing with it .... Rofl
 

(0)
Monday November 17, 2014, 4:51 am
Ideologists of all kinds have a habit of distorting and or suppressing truth whilst churning out outright lies. Islam is in good company with their propaganda along with the likes of Adolph Hitler and the former USSSR. No doubt this lie will be picked up across the Islamic world and by their Left wing supporters in the West and repeated ad nauseum.
 

Past Member (0)
Monday November 17, 2014, 5:28 am
Sorry, but the Vikings (and the many Hebridean Scots who sailed with them) were here before AD 1000 and established colonies in Canada and the U.S, especially throughout Appalachia.

They too took *slaves*, but treated them as human beings, not as sex machines (or non-sex machines in the case of the poor men).


 

JeanisAWAY G (136)
Monday November 17, 2014, 5:46 am
Another dangerous nutter, let loose! God help Turkey
 

ALLEN G (19)
Monday November 17, 2014, 6:50 am
PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THEY RE-PRODUCE .
 

Gillian M (11)
Monday November 17, 2014, 7:37 am
According to Islam the first prophet was Adam which is a joke because he was he going to preach to other than the lion and the lamb? Islam claims everything in both the Old and New Testaments to try to legitimise their non-religion. They even claim that Abraham was the first Muslim!!
 

Carol Dreeszen (346)
Monday November 17, 2014, 10:33 am
Thanks Rahman for an excellent explanation on this!
 

. (0)
Monday November 17, 2014, 12:37 pm
I do not think so !
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday November 17, 2014, 12:49 pm
Just to add a little more provocation into the already complex mix.
 

Athena F (131)
Monday November 17, 2014, 1:29 pm
thank you
 

Jamie Clemons (282)
Monday November 17, 2014, 1:49 pm
The indigenous people discovers it around 12,000 to 15,000 years ago.
 

Birgit W (160)
Monday November 17, 2014, 2:47 pm
Thanks for sharing.
 

Stan B (123)
Monday November 17, 2014, 5:10 pm
Yes and Columbus discovered baklava and Turkish delight.
What a fruit loop......................... and he's a President!!!!!
 

Walter F (128)
Monday November 17, 2014, 5:18 pm
Thanks for posting Beatrice and Rahman for your history of Islam .Actually it was a Jew who first foot on American soil he was on the ship of the Viking Erik the Red and was the first t set foot on the soil I'm surprised more people don't know that
 

Nelson Baker (0)
Monday November 17, 2014, 5:58 pm
Noted. Muslims did not discover America. People have lived here for thousands of years. It was discover by those people, the first arrivals.
 

Cheryl H (91)
Tuesday November 18, 2014, 5:47 am
Muslims would to say that even the world belongs to them. Thanks Beatrice!
 

Thomas M (8)
Tuesday November 18, 2014, 8:14 am
Mr. Erdogan: You are leading your country into a sectarian quagmire. Your statements are full of hate and certainly do not reflect a positive message a leader would share with other nations of the world to build trust. Yes, we know Columbus did not discover America. Your arrogance and trust of your religion over government will eventually bring you down - just like Iraq. I am sure you believe Muslims have been to the Moon, Mars and Pluto as well via the Good Ship Lollypop. Peace, love and flowers to you in the universal flow of life. Who will you harass today? Our US Navy soldiers, ISIS, the Shia, Sunnis, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, people in Syria? What do you stand for?
 
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