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US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Tea Party, Occupy Movement, United We Stand Divided We Fall, Similarities, Differences )

Sheryl
- 1767 days ago - huffingtonpost.com
We do not face a choice between protecting our environment or protecting our economy. We face a choice between protecting our economy by protecting our environment; or allowing environmental havoc to create economic havoc. Divided we fall; united we stand



   

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Past Member (0)
Wednesday September 17, 2014, 8:44 am
Thank you for posting Dandelion.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Wednesday September 17, 2014, 8:53 am
This article was a REALLY good read and I hope that people will take to time to do so. It isn't that long but holds a lot into it. What are the similarities, the differences, and by understanding those we can more effectively deal in our important issues with each other.

Please also check out Robert Rubin's live link within the article, as we are having the People's March on Climate this is a good piece that ties in.

I've also placed a Bill Moyer's interview on with Katharine Hayhoe, who is in fact a Conservative Christian Evangelical, doing her part as a Scientist to reach out to those who have distrust in others concerning the Climate Disruption we all face. There are ways to bring the conversation to all people and work together as United front on many key areas. Please, if unfamiliar with her, also watch the video or read the transcript.
Climate Change Faith And Fact
 

Barry AWAY T (936)
Wednesday September 17, 2014, 4:56 pm
noted. very definitely a good read so thanks very, very, very much lol.

It is really hard to understate the importance of all this - particularly as it relates to the occupy movement because there is no longer (IMO) any easy way to stop the insanity. It will require something so dramatic as to be almost imaginable. A true mass awakening would accelerate the possibilities but that is probably just dreaming. A combination of things must occur and among them must be (again, IMO) a movement which is not leaderless (like occupy) but perhaps multi-leader (Daniel Quinn's vision of "B" might be what is needed) so that assassinating or discrediting a single person doesn't stop anything at all..
 

LaurenBackSoon Kozen (173)
Wednesday September 17, 2014, 5:38 pm
Noted & Shared.
Thanks for posting this Dandelion.
 

Lois Jordan (63)
Wednesday September 17, 2014, 6:14 pm
Noted. Thanks so much for posting, Dandelion. Yes, this was very well written and explained. It will be good to know how well the new Green Tea Coalition works, too, with the combined groups. In fact, "The New Left Revitalization" by Gara LaMarche in The Nation (Sept. 1/8, 2014), explains how "there's more collaboration and coordination than ever before." The strength and power of these groups is brought by the people who are involved; and "more" is always better. It's much harder to ignore a million people in the streets than a few thousand.

(Now, I'm going to watch an interview on "All In With Chris Hayes" with Naomi Klein. For those interested, you might be able to find this on the msnbc website.)
 

Arlene C (28)
Wednesday September 17, 2014, 6:20 pm
merci pour os commentaires et Dandelion
 

Charlene Rush (79)
Wednesday September 17, 2014, 6:42 pm
Mistakenly, I thought the GOP would have found some method of eliminating the Tea Party folks from the Republican Party.
Apparently, they have been too embedded into their system, for too long a time.

The Tea Party is truly, being played by the 1% and too dumb to know it. They are doing the bidding for the wealthy, without any benefits. The 'club' of the rich, white man is very selective, and membership is out of the reach of most all of those striving to get there.
How can they be so naive and gullible?
 

S J (124)
Wednesday September 17, 2014, 7:29 pm
Thank you Dandelion
 

TomCat S (123)
Wednesday September 17, 2014, 9:43 pm
Perhaps it's time to pollute Boston Harbor with InsaniTEA.
 

Athena F (131)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 12:40 am
thank you
 

Arild Warud (174)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 3:25 am
Thanks for posting this well written article Sheryl.

"The Tea Party isn't grassroots; it's Astroturf."

If America is to pull out of its tailspin before there's revolution, it may require the cooperation of Tea Partiers and Occupiers.

I don't see a revolution as a bad thing,whatever way you see it USA cannot continue as is for much longer.
 

Terrie Williams (798)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 6:06 am
If America is to pull out of its tailspin before there's revolution, it may require the cooperation of Tea Partiers and Occupiers. Given the differences in style and substance, this seems unlikely -- unless vast numbers of Partiers awaken to the reality they've been duped.

Therein lies the dilemma -- one cannot talk common sense, let alone anything requiring a higher cerebral plain, to these willfully ignorant heatherns. I know, I have tried for the last 4 years.

Therefore, I agree with Arild....revolution is not a bad thing.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 6:07 am
Both George Carlin and Bill Maher has brought up that to the public many times, about the "club" and you are not part of it nor will you ever be....and that it's out of reach, and when too many start to do well or might move into a territory that is theirs, they change the rules. A few new ones slip in, like a Bill Gates, but they don't want a lot of them; less competition.

Part of the reason they don't want to fund the educational system, as it was called, "the great equalizer" so we can't have too many that are too intelligent......we might call them on things....which was in fact being done in the 50's, 60's, and 70's until they changed the rules to knock us down and enslave us one way or another. And the gullible do go along, slicing their own throats from building more prisons, passing more laws to end up in prison, harsher sentences to keep one there longer and pay so low one doesn't have time to study, learn, protest, or stand up against the machine.
 

Dawnie W (250)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 6:46 am
Thank you Dandelion for links.

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Kathleen M (208)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 7:34 am
Noted with interest. Thanks for posting, Dandelion. A clear, well-written article, for sure! But nevermind polluting Boston Harbor with anything, including insanitea, TC! We just got it cleaned up! : )
 

Lady Suki (446)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 8:32 am
Thanks for posting.
 

Don H (45)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 10:47 am
I will not cooperate or associate with ignorance celebrating bigots.

The Tea Party was created by Freedom Works with the intention of disrupting the national health care debate. The Tea Party has attracted the membership of racists and bigots of every stripe.

On the other hand, yay Occupy!
 

Penelope Ryan (178)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 3:41 pm
Thanks Sheryl
 

Caitlin M (104)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 5:35 pm
Thanks very much, Dandelion. All good info and you reference some of my favorite people...Bill Moyers and Bill Maher. Sometimes the funny folks really get it right. Russell Brand these days is telling it like it is, too, I think.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 6:19 pm
I like Russell Brand, sometimes he talks a little fast for me along with his accent, but I get most his words. He in ways, reminds me of a young Robin Williams. I recall in his younger days he too could rattle on so fast yet there was information in there, one's ears just had to be quick.
 

SusanAWAY Allen (219)
Thursday September 18, 2014, 10:00 pm
Noted and shared.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Friday September 19, 2014, 9:41 am
Well the American Indians didn't quite like the term either, said it reminded them of the first Occupiers that landed on the island in NY and so it began. That is why the First Nations came up with the term Idle No More.
 

. (0)
Saturday September 20, 2014, 5:15 pm
Thanks for sharing, Dandelion. Noted.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday September 20, 2014, 10:04 pm
Thanks, Great Article
 

Bryan S (105)
Tuesday September 23, 2014, 8:06 pm
Yes, great article, thanks Sheryl.

This idea that the Tea Party seems more successful reminds me of how you often hear how the Right is better at getting their message out. Well gee, when their message is the same, and actautally crafted by, the powerful corporate interests that own the media and politicians, it's not hard to understand how "their" message gets out.

I think another important factor that drives the Tea Pary is religious fundamentalism. Many people rally around some total ignoramus like Palin whose policies spell death to the middle class simply because that person says the right religious buzzwords.

I agree, Terrie Williams, there's not much room for common sense with many of these folks. Tea Partiers are like someone who brings up the issue of corruption in the police force (which of course very much exists), so their solution is to repeal laws against theft and assault while advocating for a private police force that will be even less accountable and cost the public more.

I do hope the Green Tea Coalition is successful. I think some people will have to be dragged kicking and screaming into a sustainable and just society, assuming that ever happens.

 

Sheryl G (359)
Tuesday September 23, 2014, 11:20 pm
How true, if that ever happens. Polls for various elections are extremely close, one would think by now people would see that these "obstructionist" are dragging this Country down. But I guess for them they think they are doing a good job.....prevent the Government from working......Tea Party figures they are winning. Very upsetting for so many, including themselves, and they can't even see it, so they won't change it.
 
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