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Many Who Got Obamacare Subsidies Now Face Big Tax Bill

Health & Wellness  (tags: Affordable Care Act, taxes, insurance marketplaces, Universal Health Care )

- 1277 days ago -
Hundreds of thousands of families who enrolled in plans through the insurance marketplaces via the Affordable Care Act could be stuck with unexpected tax bills, according to researchers.


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Animae C (507)
Monday April 20, 2015, 8:20 pm
It's what governments do best, give with one hand & take with the other.

T.Y. Dandelion

Catrin S (47)
Monday April 20, 2015, 8:38 pm
Well said AniMae.

Athena F (131)
Tuesday April 21, 2015, 1:23 am

Evelyn B (61)
Tuesday April 21, 2015, 2:17 am
Difficult - needs much better system in place to protect & inform those getting subsidies, so that they are aware that change in their situation will impact on their rights. It sounds as though the tax charges are not reasonably aligned with increased income during the year, so the tax bill hits harder than simply balancing out reduced need for subsidies.

At the same time, subsidy funds do need to be kept available for those who really need full subsidies. Otherwise, those most in need can find that no subsidy funds remain to be allocated to them, while others no longer face the same degree of difficulty, but were allocated funds. It's a difficult issue.

Arild Gone for now (174)
Tuesday April 21, 2015, 4:35 am
This is surreal.

Birgit W (160)
Tuesday April 21, 2015, 5:41 am
Outrageous, but this is how we are being treated by our corporation governments. We are being milked, while the 1% are getting free handouts from our tax moneys.

Caitlin M (104)
Tuesday April 21, 2015, 6:20 am
It seems to me the important thing to note is that (if this report is accurate) the repayment of the amounts given by government to cover healthcare costs is happening because the people "underestimated" their incomes to start with... or they became employed and gained income after they had signed up for the benefit. This can include people who willfully tried to take advantage of the ACA marketplace plans by getting subsidies they didn't truthfully qualify for. It could also me remedied, I imagine, by withdrawing from the plans once the new income was expected.

I'm afraid there are too many panic button pushers about the ACA. It definitely is not the plan I would have designed (Medicare for All would be my preference) but I think this info may be tilted toward downgrading the program instead of those who used it improperly. Just a thought...

Past Member (0)
Tuesday April 21, 2015, 8:53 am
Knew there would be some... didn't realize it would be more than half. ouch

Onita Northington (44)
Tuesday April 21, 2015, 3:51 pm
And yet we still have people out there yelling about ACA being free healthcare. NOT!

Freya H (358)
Tuesday April 21, 2015, 6:12 pm
Obamacare is a Band-Aid on a condition that requires major surgery. I used to be leery of single-payer systems, derisively called them "socialized medicine." However, when one compares the horror stories from single-payer systems to those that arise from our insane for-profit systems, I'd rather risk the former. Any healthcare system, other than magical instant cures, is going to have problems.

Sheryl G (360)
Tuesday April 21, 2015, 7:08 pm
This and the fact that there are still millions of people who are not insured as there are some States that are not accepting the Medicaid extended part of the program. This is a complicated program that not everyone has good understanding of.

It still have uncovered members of society, it still has the insurance companies running the show, no wonder they were on the panel drafting this up while people like Dr. Flowers wasn't allowed. This has delayed a true Universal Health Care program in this Country. While it has helped some gain insurance and improve things for their families, others it has done little to nothing for, and then others are getting caught in surprises they were not fully aware of. Sure, some people might of misinformed on their application to get a lower rate, but if a program catches others off guard that had thought they were doing it correctly, what kind of a program is that.

Why can't we have one card assigned at birth and goes along with us until our death. Clear rules, simple way to administer the program to keep costs down. This Affordable Care Act hasn't been accept by either the right nor the real progressives in this Country.

Bryan S (105)
Tuesday April 21, 2015, 7:56 pm
Another reason we need a universal health care program like every other industrialized country has, instead of a complicated system designed only to keep more people's heads above water as they use the insurance industry. Imagine if all the money required to have people determine whether or not people qualify for subsidies, and if they have to pay some of it back, were used for direct care.

Liliana Garcia (201)
Tuesday April 21, 2015, 10:22 pm
Like others have said here, this was ill conceived from the start: (1) The private insurance comp. and Big Money run the show,(2) taxing people for non compliance is wrong, no coverage is the problem of the masses not having access to universal health care so it ends up in a vicious circle, (3) There's no input on prevention, people eat junk food because it is cheaper, are exposed to toxins everywhere, Monsanto is protected and GMO products keep popping up and the culture of war and violence is a continuous threat to psychological wellbeing.

Judy C (91)
Wednesday April 22, 2015, 12:46 am
Obama payed lip service to single-payer before he got elected. I had read about this tax time-bomb. Think about how much time Congress wasted in crafting the Obamacare monstrosity, a big handout to the insurance parasites! Thanks Dandelion.

Michael M (5)
Wednesday April 22, 2015, 1:21 am
You dumb anti-ACA people really don't read do you? These people NO LONGER qualified for subsidies because of their INCOME push them out of eligibility to GET the subsidies.

Try harder for your fake outrage.

Winn Adams (179)
Wednesday April 22, 2015, 6:52 am
We need Universal Healthcare NOW.

Diane K (134)
Wednesday April 22, 2015, 7:48 am
Government guidelines and rules don't make it easy, even when you're honest, you can still be penalized. System works for those who remain low income and who don't make substantial changes in their lives. Not good for all Americans.

Sheryl G (360)
Wednesday April 22, 2015, 11:51 am
Michael M. do you always come onto threads and insult a bunch of people you don't even know? Calling all on here dumb, saying people are faking their comments. Where I was raised that is considered poor manners.

I think the people are intelligent to understand that the people no longer qualified because their income changed. What people are speaking about is the program is confusing and that many people did not understand that fact when they signed on to the program.

Most people didn't want this program for a variety of reasons, on the Right they had their reasons but those on the progressive Left also didn't want this program either. This is one time I think both sides of the coin was in agreement.....what may be in disagreement is what could be changed to make a broken health care (less) system better. We seem to have the worse system in all developed Countries.....I should think that being we are the United States we could do much better.

Michael I just looked at your Profile page and you have this listed upon it.

Voting and acting out since 1987 against religious right-wing nut-job's anti-American policies

What Bugs Me tea-baggers, Republicans and right wingers

As I know most of the commenters on this thread, most are in agreement with you with what you write on your profile page. So as the saying goes......with friends like you who needs an enemy.

Please, take a breath, actually look at what was left for an article, really read the comments on the threads so you don't attack those who are in the same "camp" as you so to speak. One can get their point out without it being rude and aggressive.

Janet B (0)
Wednesday April 22, 2015, 12:55 pm

Past Member (0)
Wednesday April 22, 2015, 1:10 pm
No surprise

Terrie Williams (798)
Thursday April 23, 2015, 12:05 pm
I still want Medicare-For-All. I still have no insurance because of our Perry-Mini Me Governor Abbott still refuses to get the expanded Medicaid. So, this year when I did our taxes the system spit out a waiver for me as 'hardship'. kiddin. Between a rock and a hard place. Can't afford the exchange, even with government subsidy and have no coverage from the state because they consider us to be way over the state's cut-offs for income eligibility...which are obscenely low, even for very low income earners. So, most poor people in this Fascist state have no insurance, no Medicaid and no other option but use of ER's if something happens. TX sux the big one and TX is also the top state for the amount of people without health insurance......lovely. I digress.
If someone has a life changing event, like those listed in the article, yes, they should pay it back. The IRS WILL work with them to set up a re-payment schedule. That is basically all they can do or pay the whole lump sum when they send their tax return in. Then after that, they need to either drop from the exchange, or keep their insurance and pay the premiums or search through the exchange for a lower rate for insurance policies.

In the end, it is going to have to come to single-payer eventually or there will be no health care for the average income earner or below. Only the affluent will be able to afford it and many hospitals/doctor offices will close. They (both insurance co's and doctor's) have cut off their noses to spite their faces on 'for-profit' healthcare. It should never have been 'for-profit' in the first place but you know.....capitalism and FREEDUMB.

DaleLovesOttawa O (198)
Wednesday April 29, 2015, 8:28 pm
I am very fond and extremely grateful for my country's 'socialized medicine,' (universal health care system) and would not trade it for the American system for any reason. Most western nations with similar single payer health care systems having operations, etc., pay far less for the same thing, than the prices that are charged in the U.S., which is far more expensive.

There can be 'horror stories' under any system, but to me, it is far more of a horror story that many Americans find their own health care so terribly expensive. If necessary, I can walk into an ER in an emergency, end up in the hospital and obtain care and never see a bill, even for an operation and hospital stay.

Health care for profits is certainlybig business in the U.S. It is a fact that Obamacare/the Affordable Healthcare system does not even come close to universal health care, one can just imagine the howls from the for profit advocates should the U.S. ever attempt to opt for a universal health care system within the U.S.

Hugs to Tommy Douglas, the father of 'socialized' medicine in Canada.

Sheryl G (360)
Thursday April 30, 2015, 8:27 am
There were howls from the For Profit Advocates.....hence why what started to be a push for Universal Health Care got watered down to this Affordable Care Act......and still millions of people in the USA have no medical care.
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