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Commission on Presidential Debates -- It Is Time for Fair Debates


US Politics & Gov't  (tags: debates, Presidential debates, Commission on Presidential Debates, 3rd Parties, Fair Debates )

Sheryl
- 1384 days ago - youtube.com
The Commission on Presidential Debates is a private not-for-profit organization set up by the Republican and Democratic parties. The purpose is simple; to prevent the inclusion of different voices, opinions and candidates.



   

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Sheryl G (359)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 7:09 am
Although this year for the Presidential Elections there is a Candidate I can get behind, for many years there has been none in the two main Parties. This is unfair that these other Parties are not even being heard in the debates and therefore many people are not even aware these Parties even exists.

People below a certain age have not even seen debates with the 3rd Parties that were included. It USE to be done and it isn't anymore and because of it we have the mess we have. Even if 3rd Parties do not win, they have voice and they push the main Parties in a direction that at least the conversation exists. We have grown so extreme in the Nation because too many voices are no longer being heard, we NEED to have ALL voices in the debates.

Look at this year, we have one woman out of 10 on the Republican side, and yet she was sent to the kiddie table. In fact if all 10 are valid Candidates then all should be able to be on the stage. Our Country is being run by the Corporate Media who will and will not get on stage, who will or will not get coverage, and these Super Pacs are buying Candidates just to have a horse in the race.

We don't have qualified Statesmen/women running we have Billionaires who have so much extra money they don't know what to do with it all......so back a Candidate, as long as that person will be that Billionaires personal spokesperson, we see that with Scott Walker and the Koch Brothers. Some candidates like it, they get a bit of attention, they "might" win, and in any case they walk away with lucrative deals for later.

Corporate media is in it for their special interests or if they make money off of it, Donald Trump draws attention as he is media savvy, he knows how to get attention, that has been crafted by him. Living in NY one has to be louder or bolder than the other to be seen or heard, selling your name and his business products he has come to be an expert in it. Corporate media loves it, people tune in, they watch, then the crowds grow. However, we have Bernie Sanders who has grown large crowds base on a solid message, yet he receives little to no media attention. Corporate media ignores Sanders while Corporate media helped grow the crowds for Trump.

Yes this IS one of the reason Donald Trump is doing well, the people hear, thanks to Corporate media, that he doesn't have to be bought by a Billionaire he is one. It is the second part of what I just wrote that people are failing to see that support him. He has half the message correct, he isn't being bought; however does he truly have the 99% best interest at heart or his own, as he is one of the 1%. Will Bernie Sanders isn't taking money either from the billionaire class but as his polices are not what Wall Street wants includes the Corporate media they ignore him or if they mention him, it's well he will not win and they push Hillary that they know will side to a Corporate stance.

So although I'm pleased this year I've got a Candidate I can back in one of the two main Parties I'm still for the needed changes in our Election system, ONE of those is that all Parties should be heard. That is a democracy what we have now is not.
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 8:12 am
Our 7 party leader debate in the UK just before our UK General Election was one of the best in years. We got to hear what 3 Women leaders from Plaid Cymru (Leane Wood), Scottish National Party (Nicola Sturgeon) and The Green Party (‎Natalie Bennett) thought, and they had by FAAAR the most reasonable policies out of the 7, including an END to AUSTERITY measures.
 

JL A (281)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 8:23 am
Thanks Dandelion--I miss the debates run by the nonpartisan League of Women Voters that were truly substantive rather than the infotainment model of today, if they even reach that level of information.
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 8:38 am
At times I feel Trump is paying someone. I have never seen a candidate get this much coverage. And it has to be that blowhard.
Thank you Dandelion
 

Patrick Donovan (344)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 12:00 pm
Open public debates are important. The hijacking of debates by the 2 major parties is wrong.
 

Birgit W (160)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 3:34 pm
Is there such a thing like fair debates?
 

Past Member (0)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 6:24 pm
If such debates were indeed presented, it would become overtly clear that there is only one candidate that possesses integrity (Bernie Sanders). Only two who are authentic and are not bought by the evil 1% that rules the planet.. (Sanders and Trump). Only one who has the passion, dedication, convictions, for the right reasons, to defend, protect, fight to return and renew rights, freedoms, demand equality, fairness, a more even distribution of wealth and power. (Bernie Sanders). Bernie needs more publicity. The rest buy it---with their dirty contributions from big mney--Trump buys with his own and the rest is attention for negative and/or outlandish, rude behavior. Bernie has many more positives going for him, and certainly honesty and his passion to fight for all of "We The People", are extremely rare and welcome, in the political arena. Thanks Dandelion.
 

Edith B (146)
Thursday September 3, 2015, 9:10 pm
I agree, we do need to hear from the third parties as well as the two dominant ones. Both the Dems and the GOP are corporate owned, so we need not expect any of them to actually care about the 99%. Bernie does, but he is as you said, being ignored by the media.
 

Arild Warud (174)
Friday September 4, 2015, 3:48 am
Why is every event by Trump live on CNN and almost nothing of Bernie Sanders???

American Democracy is dead and there is no point to revive it without getting rid of Corporate money.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Friday September 4, 2015, 6:12 am
Well they can be a lot more fair than they are now Birgit.
 

Robert B (55)
Friday September 4, 2015, 12:25 pm
Another thing that has not been mentioned here is that not only are 3rd parties not heard in the Debates, Moderators are not allowed to ask any questions that are not approved beforehand by the Democratic or Republican party. I'd like to hear questions asked that the candidates or parties do not control. Right now, the whole Presidential Debate game is rigged. I suspect this is also true of televised interviews.
 

Janet B (0)
Friday September 4, 2015, 12:25 pm
Thanks
 

Catrin Schuetz-Kroehler (47)
Friday September 4, 2015, 2:04 pm
What a cluster....
 

Caitlin M (104)
Friday September 4, 2015, 2:40 pm
It is good to hear from Darren that all the candidates get to speak/debate in his country (Great Britain), but I wonder if the lesser known candidates get to debate long BEFORE the General Election. If they are only included at the last minute (so to speak) they aren't getting equal access, are they? Regardless of Britain, the USA does not give any chance to parties outside of the Dems and Repubs. I ran for my state legislature in 2012 and experienced for the first time just how influential those two parties are in our election process. I think everyone should run for their state legislatures in order to get to know just how sick our system is! I definitely agree that we should have independently moderated debates...not just ones that are organized by the 2 parties. I would love to have Jon Stewart moderate a debate or two. He wouldn't take Trump's BS as credible nor would he cower at Trump's uneducated, ego-filled answers. I haven't even heard of the 3rd party candidate(s) this year. That's how tight a lock the 2 parties have on this process in the US. Vote your hearts, everyone! Don't be lulled into thinking Bernie can't win, for instance. He can... and SHOULD!
 

Lois Jordan (63)
Friday September 4, 2015, 3:16 pm
Noted. Thanks for posting, Dandelion.
Yes, I have made mention of that fact that when the League of Women Voters no longer handled the debates, they just became a "showcase" for the 2 parties. I have long wanted the LWV to retake the debates. Although I am for Bernie all the way, I would like to hear from more than 2 parties.....and have that precedent be set once again.

Funny thing is, it doesn't seem to matter who is in the White House, since the Military-Industrial-Corporate-Intelligence Complex is running the show anyway; along with a complicit media. It appears that "we the people" still have some power over social issues, but where funneling money for world conflicts are concerned, no matter how long or hard we scream for peace, we are mostly unheard.
 

jan b (5)
Friday September 4, 2015, 3:24 pm
The VOTERS are the problem when they listen to bullchit and debates and speeches --- which is a ridiculous--ancient way of selecting a candidate......instead of checking the background of accomplishments of a candidate to see who they really are.

There is nothing wrong with the democratic party ideals and principles and where it goes wrong is when the voters selected 14 blue-dog conservative-democrats who gum up the works and thus the Democrats can't get enough legislators to vote for their bills. Also some democrats are Sanderbaggers now who are backing Sanders who is a democrat only in name when he campaigns ---doesn't join the Party---cause he endorses the republicans when it suits him to. Women have the most to lose if they can't get more women in DC to care about their issues.....which affects children and men who are part of families.



 

jan b (5)
Friday September 4, 2015, 3:32 pm
The USA ought to take a look at the EU. !In the EU, many countries do not permit paid-for TV or radio advertising . In both the United Kingdom and Ireland, paid advertisements are forbidden, though political parties are allowed a small number of party political broadcasts in the run up to election time. . Canada allows paid-for political broadcasts but requires equitable access to the airwaves.

I don't CARE what candidates SAY NOW. It's what they have accomplished that tells me who they truly are Unfortunately, Americans are dumb and don't know how to use Google or are just too durn lazy to check a candidates background. Some take advantage of the stupidity of voters and why we have had so many bad leaders.......

This countries greatest nightmare would be SANDERS vs TRUMP...... they both have a CULT following manipulated, exploited by B.S. talk. I wish I hadn't put so much loyalty into this country cause otherwise I wouldn't care......I'm too old to move so don't suggest that or write me personal messages......I went through this before when GW BUSH was running for President---and people were angry at me cause I wasn't in LOVE. with him.
 

Nicolai L (39)
Saturday September 5, 2015, 2:18 am
noted thanks for sharing :)
 

Sheryl G (359)
Saturday September 5, 2015, 5:27 am
Well Jan, here we go calling people stupid again. I do google, I have lived in New England, I am aware of Bernie Sanders and his long background of serving all the people. You know there was a time Jan when the Republicans were not way out there on the fringe, and there are still a lot of Republicans that are not out there on the fringe but their Party has moved so far to the Right.....but without KNOWING their are 3rd Parties they feel they have no where else to go to.

They like an Independent that use "common sense" and protects all the people's interest, not just "some"; hence why Republicans enjoy Bernie Sanders in Vermont......but so too do the Democrats. In DC he most of the time caucuses with the Democrats. So I must question who is using their google skills appropriately. If he can bring people together in VT and still bring forth the policies that the Democrats back then I'd say he has a lot of skill.

Caitlin, I don't have specifics on the UK but I know from start to finish their elections do not last long, like from start to finish a couple month. Perhaps Darren will come back on to explain. Our system is so broken now we are in constant election cycle, which studies show, those Countries that are in constant election cycles tend to be as I said, "broken".
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday September 5, 2015, 7:25 am
It's past time; however, when it comes to Republicans, that will never occur! Thanks, Dandelion
 

Winn A (179)
Saturday September 5, 2015, 12:00 pm
The GOP is a blight on America.
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Saturday September 5, 2015, 1:16 pm
Jan B. . . . wake up, OUR British / U.K mainstream press/media is COMPLETELY owned by politically biased corporations.
 

Adrienne L (9)
Saturday September 5, 2015, 3:25 pm
Thanks for sharing.
 

Janet B (0)
Saturday September 5, 2015, 6:57 pm
Thanks
 

Judy C (91)
Saturday September 5, 2015, 10:59 pm
It's a joke to even call these tepid spectacles debates. A debate would require adult participants with varying views and interests, conducting rational discourse on issues. The whole campaign circus is a bonanza for the advertising industry, and we can include the MSM news as an extension of that industry. In turn, they are tools of the military-industrial complex, and the parties are Tweedledum and Tweedledee, as Ralph Nader says. You can nearly see the corporate ovewrlords pulling the strings as the candidates answer pre-planned questions in memorized script. The public doesn't know enough to see this as a sham, and nearly an insult.
 

Judy C (91)
Saturday September 5, 2015, 11:01 pm
typo-overlords
 

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday September 6, 2015, 10:19 am
Gee, I never realized that Ralph Nader called the two Parties Tweedledum and Tweedledee as I've used that on some C2 threads myself. Is very fitting though. The rest of your comment is excellent as well. This is why the League of Womens Voters got out of the debates, because they were being TOLD what to do by the two main Parties.....they would not become a "tool" to the farce......to their credit.

LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS REFUSES TO PERPETRATE FRAUD
 
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