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Hiding The Homeless


Society & Culture  (tags: homeless, crime, ticketing, federal case, where do they go )

Sheryl
- 1262 days ago - news.vice.com
A growing number of American cities are ticketing or arresting homeless people for essentially being homeless. The new laws ban behavior commonly associated with homelessness like reclining in public, sharing food or sitting on a sidewalk.



   

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Freya H (345)
Friday December 4, 2015, 8:36 am
Move them into the "shelter system"? Don't make me laugh! Shelters just simply don't have the room or resources to deal with all of the homeless people in this country. People line up hours before a shelter opens in hopes of getting a place. Not only that, many shelters are regarded as unsafe, or won't take in families or certain people, yadda yadda yadda.
 

Lone F (58)
Friday December 4, 2015, 8:37 am
Thanks for another great article/video Dandelion

Jail is not the answer; it's like a bandaid!
 

james C (8)
Friday December 4, 2015, 9:54 am
More and More country's are saying that the homeless have no right, in London you can be fined upto £1000 for sleep on the street, at the same the government are removing money for shelters to give more tax cuts to the rich.
 

Animae C (508)
Friday December 4, 2015, 5:31 pm
i was reading recently that a city in Canada had completely solved homelessness, i'll try to find the article & post it here.
 

Darren W (218)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 12:21 am
Humankind has its priorities backwards and inside-out.

Shared to spread awareness.
 

Patrick Donovan (344)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 9:52 am
Unfortunately, too many people have voted for representatives who believe that if they shut their eyes, no one suffers.

We need more Joe Hills, Florence Reeces, and Woody Gutheries to help people understand the depth of the problems the US society is facing.
 

Winn Adams (179)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 10:16 am
Agree with Freya - Thanks Sheryl.
 

Roslyn McBride (26)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 12:46 pm
I cannot get over the fact there are ANY homeless people in a Western country. Although Australia certainly has homeless people, in my small area there are 17 families who were homeless, but have been housed by the local Council. Makes me feel my rates are worth paying. Why can't other Councils do the same thing with rate payers' money?
 

Rose Becke (141)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 2:31 pm
True Rosyln
 

Athena F (131)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 3:14 pm
thank you
 

Athena F (131)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 3:26 pm
People are always quick to blame themselves or others for what the politicians do. ("I can't believe you voted for THEM!" or "I can't believe I trusted them and actually voted them in!")

This is so counter-productive. It brings no actual positive action to the table. I realize it's a knee-jerk reaction, and I've done it myself because we're always so ready to steer blame away from ourselves, or worse, take blame for everything even when we have little control over it, but we really need to stop doing that. I know it can be hard to bear that we might have had something to do with any of this mess, but we all have a LITTLE to do with it just by being human and on this planet trying to survive. Us believing we're personally, majorly to blame, or that we personally have nothing to do with it at all are both equally unhelpful. :(

It's the easiest way to shut down a conversation and not have to actually do anything further to HELP. Wash your hands of it by saying "Well, YOU voted for them. Not me!"

Guess what? That may be true, but all of these guys.. at least probably about 95% of them from my experience, are corrupt or screwed up somehow. So.. even if you do your research.. and even if you vote for the very best one available.. guess what? They often have lied, cheated, swindled and put an innocent face on it the whole time. They may even be decent human beings and believe all the promises they are making... until that first fat cat shows up in their office offering a million dollars to just.. look the other way. Nothing for it.

Or you can abstain, not vote at all, and that's just as bad because it doesn't help in the off-chance we actually get someone decent to vote for for a change. The greater of two evils will most certainly win if we don't at least try. They have all the cash. :P

Please don't immediately say "well, I certainly didn't vote for them" or "you should have thought of this before you voted so poorly". It's seriously insane out there and you can't read these people's minds. Don't get me wrong. Sometimes you can vote so badly that it's stupid. Like when I lived in New Orleans and David Duke was running for office (Ku Klux Clan) and some African Americans actually voted for him. Now yes, I can see how people might want to say "how could you?" when it's something obvious like that. But for the most part? We're screwed and have no clue what these people will do once elected. We can only do our best to educate ourselves and be as informed as we possibly can be, and try, try, try not to play the blame game and point fingers when the guy who turns into an asshat THIS time happens to not be the guy we voted for. It could just as easily happen to us.
 

Birgit W (160)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 3:34 pm
What a heart wrenching video. People pay taxes, and our government should use it for people and not for waging wars.
Where is one supposed to go if you loose everything, and this can happen to everybody of us. How are they even supposed to pay a fine if they have no money?
But the government has the money to pay a consultant for getting rid of homeless people? Crazy!
This is just disgraceful. Where is compassion?
 

Walter F (128)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 3:49 pm
It is an indictment of our societies that we have homeless people ..'There will always be bruised reeds who cannot cope with life ,but most of our homeless are the economic poor who have lost their homes due to unemployment or health issues.. They have to turn for their daily needs to welfare organisations that are stretched to their capacity ,Our governments need to build more housing commission houses and apartments for these people. It may mean increased taxation and we should all be willing to comply with this.To each according to his needs and from each according to ability.
 

Maryann S (112)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 5:18 pm
The first person to die from the cold in the Chicago area this year was a homeless man.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 7:13 pm
Statistic show that on any given day/night in the USA we have more than a half million people who are without a home. Think on that figure.....that is shameful and our Country is morally bankrupt.
 

Cheryl Aaron (18)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 7:52 pm
We have allowed our moral priorities to be corrupted. Homeless peoples' existence is that evidence in our faces. That's why politicians pass laws against them. I agree with activists who break into abandoned buildings and rehab them so that homeless people will have shelter. It's time to take our priorities seriously...peace.
 

Animae C (508)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 8:50 pm
Canadian City Completely Eradicates Homelessness With Brand New Approach
They did the opposite of what most cities do.

http://aplus.com/a/canada-solves-homelessness-problems
 

Judy C (91)
Saturday December 5, 2015, 11:23 pm
This video had me yelling at the computer screen. That consultant should be run out of town on a rail. He's just an opportunist and charlatan, traveling around selling snake oil. He either lies and makes up outcomes to support his schemes, or says, "Oh, I don't keep statistics". He is right, though, in a way. Out of sight, out of mind. There's one thing wrong with that, though. It is very, very costly -- both in human suffering, and in actual cost to the system. AniMae's article quantifies that.

In AniMae's article, the town of Medicine Hat has been very successful with the "Housing First" concept. I know I have seen an article somewhere else too about that type of approach. What a concept! Treat fellow human beings with compassion and respect. Give them the dignity of an actual home. Then they have a comfortable, safe home base where most of them will be able to begin functioning as a member of society again. There will be a few with mental problems too severe to be able to live independently, but hopefully they can be helped in additional ways. At least they won't have to be hungry and exposed to the elements.

We just have to be responsible enough as a society to pay sufficient taxes to support what is needed for those who are unfortunate. There will always some people who want to whine that certain individuals will take advantage and be lazy. Welcome to reality. There are freeloaders and cheaters at every socioeconomic level. They REALLY cost us when they're wearing expensive suits! Anyway, that doesn't give us a legitimate excuse to have no compassion, and to try to hide suffering people so we don't have to be responsible. Thanks Dandelion, and thanks AniMae.
 

Jonathan Harper (0)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 2:41 am
Noted
 

Arild Warud (174)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 4:11 am
Amen to Dandelions comment.
 

donald Baumgartner (6)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 4:28 am
Dandelion NAILED it on the head !!!!
 

Julia Cabrera-Woscek (0)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 5:48 am
I agree with you, Dandelion.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 7:10 am
Thanks AniMae for the article you provided. I believe the city you were looking for was in Utah, think Salt Lake City if I'm not mistaken Judy. Using the approach of housing first to get people on their feet.

This has been for a long time a concept that Housing Advocates have tried to push, but you know in the USA with this attitude of a person getting something they don't pay for......despite the fact they can't pay for it. Reason that good food is thrown into the dumpsters rather than given to a food bank.

This is Capitalism played out to it's extreme and we can see how well it's been working.

Advocates said, give them a roof over their head and they will take their medications better. Too many of the homeless have no safe way to store their medications, those medications get stolen, lost, and the illness remains so the person can't get on their feet if they remain medically unable.

Advocates said, give them a roof over their head, so they have a place to keep clean, keeping them in a lot better health and by allowing them a shower, place to store their soap and toothpaste, ability to shave is a better way to look presentable in order to find a job.

Advocates said, give them a roof over their head so they get a safe night's rest. Too many homeless lack of sleep, always having to keep a watchful eye about getting mugged or attacked. When you can't rest then it's harder to think, think one's way out of the situation into a better situation. If one is mugged again causes health problems for the person.......the vicious spiral.

Advocates said, give them a roof over their head so they can regain their dignity, regain their respect, and feel they are part of the community. When one is always on the fringes, looked down upon, how is that to help these people in any way at all.

Advocates said, give them a roof over their head so they have a place to store their food, so they can eat a better diet, so they will feel better, be able to help themselves better just because they are getting foods to keep them feeling better.

Advocates said, give them a roof over their head so they are not having their health compromised by living out in the elements all the time, and in some cases dying out in the elements. How can people do better if a primary concern is dealing with pneumonia, lice, open sores, frostbite, sunburn, so on so forth from living in the outdoors all the time.

Advocates have been saying this for many many years........what has taken society so long to grasp this to heart and show it's compassion which in turns not only helps the homeless but helps society as a whole. We lack in this "greed is good". Time to put the Ayn Rand books down get one's head out of their butt, start to listen to one's heart, and turn their backs on the Talking idiots who will continue to drive a society into this morally lacking machine that only supports a few at the top.
 

Darlene W (289)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 7:11 am
Totally agree with you Dandelion.
 

Linda M (1715)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 8:54 am
Sadly, some homeless do not go to buildings and do not want to live with other people. My heart aches for people and for ANIMALS who are freezing and/or homeless.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 10:45 am
Mrs m a small minority may never want to come inside but it should not be because they are mentally ill, if it is a true choice, whereby they prefer camping year round that is one thing. That they would have the ability to if they wanted to, afford a place inside, not comping as they truly can't afford a place inside.

Also many shelters can be dangerous to stay in, almost safer to find some out of the way place or band with others that you know are trustful.
 

Janet B (0)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 12:29 pm
Thanks
 

. (0)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 12:38 pm
heartless
 

Jonathan Harper (0)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 1:43 pm
Noted!
 

LaurenBackSoon K (173)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 2:03 pm
I completely agree with Dandelion. Thanks so much for sharing.
 

Colleen L (3)
Sunday December 6, 2015, 10:26 pm
I too agree with you Dandelion. This is another issue that makes me sick seeing that it isn't properly taken care of throughout the world. Thanks Dandelion
 

Kamia T (89)
Tuesday December 8, 2015, 2:50 pm
So long as we put people who can be bought and sold into office in DC, we get exactly what we deserve. Just imagine how simple our tax code would be if it said" Make any money here, NO MATTER where you're set up, and you pay taxes on that, period. We'd have all our debt paid off; our infrastructure repaired and our homeless and starving fed.
 

Sheryl G (359)
Tuesday December 8, 2015, 3:56 pm
I never like the saying, we get what we deserve, because children who have had no say in the matter do not deserve what is happening to them, mentally disabled people don't deserve what is happening to them, the ones who haven't voted in the sum bags don't deserve what happens to them. If we could put the so called "deserving" ones all into a few States and cut them loose, fine they get what they voted for, but that isn't the way it works.

I believe that many people are ill informed and if they depend solely on the TV to obtain their news they are mostly ill informed. Many people are also having to work a lot of hours just to keep a roof over their heads and are ill informed as they don't have time to really learn and find out what is happening. Those who are in public office and are not working for the "people" but for the 1% depend upon the fact that a people working long hours, the broken and poor, no access to TV, print, or computer if they are homeless or to a people with a lot of misinformation by a bought out Corporate Media press will also not vote for or in their best interest.

That is why I tell people, talk to people, get into conversation, I know a lot of people hate to do that, but I have opened many people's eyes on a number of things by listening to their conversation about one topic and find a way to move a political conversation into it. Such as, I've got so many plastic bags in my closet does anyone need any.......bingo......I can move right on from I carry my own sack to why we need to stop carrying plastic bags as petro is used and we have this Canadian Tar Sands mess going on....so on so forth and they get an education.
 

Sayenne H (92)
Thursday December 10, 2015, 3:46 am
Dandelion you are very wise. :) It seems total madness to me to make it even harder on people already having such a hard time.
 
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