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they will stop at nothing to make sure Bernie Sanders doesn't win the White House. We do believe that people who are on a payroll to work social media for the benefit of those battling Bernie are responsible for attacking our rally relentlessly 10 days


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Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Monday October 19, 2015, 1:19 pm

This is a grassroots rally lead by an organizer who has 20 years of protest and rally organizing experience. We will not ask you for any money and everyone is responsible for their own materials regarding signs and banners.

The powers that took us down out of facebook, that destroyed the rally that had 111K RSVPS, that announced Hillary Clinton as the winner of the first debate when literally EVERY ONLINE POLL AT EVERY OUTLET SHOWED BERNIE SANDERS AS THE RUNAWAY VICTOR WITH 70-86% SUPPORT - they will stop at nothing to make sure Bernie Sanders doesn't win the White House. We do believe that people who are on a payroll to work social media for the benefit of those battling Bernie are responsible for attacking our rally relentlessly for 10 days. Normal people don't spend 24 hours a day 7 days a week trolling the same event to the tune of 1,000's of troll posts and reports.

They are Wall Street who regulates Congress.
They are the KOCH empire.
They are establishment politics.
They are Oligarchs.
They want to keep the shrinking middle class firmly under their shoe heel so our children cannot rise. Yes this is a feudal system where the overlords will stop at nothing to keep the poor and less privileged down. Dramatic, probably. True, ABSOLUTELY.

There is too much at stake this election to let them win. We must come back even stronger than before and in greater numbers.

It is up to YOU to make this happen with us. In order to rebuild we need a minimum of 50 volunteers to commit at least 30 minutes every day to spreading this event all around facebook. Out of thousands of attendees we know there are 50 of you who can spend 30 minutes daily posting this event. This 30 minutes can be at any time of day that works for you and doesn't have to be the same time every day. Please email us at to let us know you are committing to being one of the 50. We need to know you are there.

Spread the message EVERYWHERE:

- Bernie pages
- State pages and state Bernie pages
- City pages and city Bernie pages
- Colleges and Universities in every state
- those same colleges and universities Bernie club pages
- CNN (regular, politics, international), Forbes, NYT, LA Times, Huffington Post, Huffington Post Politcs. NOW, NOW Politics, Slate, Salon, The Hill, Politco, Business Week, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, any and all online media page on facebook where you can post
- Democracy pages
- Progressive pages
- Republican pages
- Libertarian pages
- Independent pages
- Groups: join every Bernie group page you can on facebook and introduce yourself to the admin. Let them know what we are doing. Post our event in the main body of the group as an independent post - this reaches the most people in groups.
- IN THE PAGES - only post to the top most popular posts that have already been put there by the page - post in the comments sections and under comments that have more than 5 replies - this is how you get exposure on pages - doing your own post just gets filtered to the side and few if any see it.

Here is a short and positive message to copy and paste as your post:


An army of relentless trolls has disabled us with their attacks and removed the 4200 RSVPS we racked up in only 10 days on our prior event page.

We need you Berners. We need you to sign your friends on for this incredible event that will show the 1% and corporate media, the people will decide this election, not the establishment! Share this everywhere!

Go to our Eventbrite page and RSVP NOW. Make sure to use the "share on facebook" feature you get at the end of your registration. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!

- Please note: There are known trolls to us who will do anything to take this down. You will get private messages from them stating that our rally is illegal, that we are all getting arrested, that we will be met with riot police and more. Ignore these trolls, don't even respond to them. They have a myriad of fake names:
Nahshon Hollis, Lawrence Nathaniel (this one has a number of profiles male and female - different names) - Johanna from "Optimists for Bernie" which we believe to be a shill group for whoever is driving the attack against Bernie supporters on facebook) Kali Nielsen, Ryan Hendrickson, "Mariah Poppins" only to name a few. We know the code, we know the law, we know the police and we know this is not illegal. The time is now to get past this false claim. We must move forward.

FINALLY. RSVP TODAY, this is crucial we need to show numbers reflecting the movement we had prior to being disabled this past Friday. PLEASE USE THE SHARE ON FACEBOOK FEATURE THAT IS OFFERED TO YOU WHEN YOU COMPLETE YOUR REGISTRATION

On the details of the rally:

Is the rally legal?

Yes it is. Under the First Amendment of the US Constitution citizens have a right to free speech and to demonstrate on public property. The mall is no different. We have attended several large 20K plus person rallies on the mall that were not permitted. There is no illegality in this. No one was arrested. As long as we are peaceful, which we will be, no one will be arrested. We will not have a bandstand, TVs, or other permanent bells and whistles. We will be moving, we will congregate at the end and speeches may be made through bullhorns. Our ending congregation will last about one hour. This is not illegal. The people telling you that it is have not organized a rally, ever.

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Monday October 19, 2015, 1:32 pm
On the details of the rally:

Is the rally legal?

Yes it is. Under the First Amendment of the US Constitution citizens have a right to free speech and to demonstrate on public property. The mall is no different. We have attended several large 20K plus person rallies on the mall that were not permitted. There is no illegality in this. No one was arrested. As long as we are peaceful, which we will be, no one will be arrested. We will not have a bandstand, TVs, or other permanent bells and whistles. We will be moving, we will congregate at the end and speeches may be made through bullhorns. Our ending congregation will last about one hour. This is not illegal. The people telling you that it is have not organized a rally, ever.


We will map a one mile course through the Mall and we will evaluate what that course will be closer to the event. there are a few construction projects going on in the mall now and those need to be considered on a current basis, closer to the date. All attendees will receive regular updates.

Will Bernie be there?
Bernie is aware of the event. There is no guarantee he will be there. Announcements about any speakers of note will be made as they are confirmed.

Why don't you list this on the campaign website?
This rally, like many other large rallies planned by individuals across the country, will not be listed on the Bernie website. The reason being, we are not campaign employees, though several of us are active volunteers for the campaign, and the campaign will not control this large scale event. No large scale rallies that are not planned by the campaign are on their site.

It will be too cold in November.
The average temperate in DC on November 28 is 45 degrees. It may be colder, it may not. We recommend that everyone wear layers and warm shoes and gloves in order to be comfortable.

There were many timing considerations when choosing the best date to do this rally. First, there was a rally of 111K people that was floundering for months which we had to wait to see finish, and it finally did on October 5, 2015 when those organizers, for whatever their problems were (one we believe putting money in the equation) finally pulled the plug. We created this rally on October 6. There are considerable underhanded doings going on RIGHT NOW as far as corporate media manipulating the debate results, Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC manipulating there being hardly any debates, and the time we must act is NOW. The early primaries are in February, Super Tuesday the first week of March, and the weather in DC gets too bitter to do this at Christmas time or in January or February. So, we are doing it on a weekend where a lot of people don't have to work Friday or Saturday and we are sorry for the inconvenience but this is the firm date and it will not change. Families are welcome and there will be children there.

There will be a public facebook profile, and the link will be placed here shortly, and there will be a way to look for shared transportation in your area to the rally. Rally Bus info will be there as well if you would like to organize a bus from your state to the rally at a low cost.

Please start thinking now of having your own large sign made or banners are even better. All we ask is that you refrain from any and all hate speech. We ask that you feature BERNIE'S name prominently at the top of our sign. Other than that please highlight whatever issue is important to you: Corporate Welfare, big banks, institutionalized racism, Black Lives Matter, Free college, crippling college debt, the 1% paying their fair share of taxes, the DNC choking of democracy by limitiing debates, corporate media lying to the public, gay rights, women's rights, healthcare, family leave, wage inequality, fair minimum wage, UNIONS.

People should bring their signs to the rally, drums are also a great thing to have, If you have a bullhorn, bring it.

We need day of rally volunteers who will have their own bullhorn. (40 bucks on Amazon) We are looking for 20 volunteers who will meet with us before the rally and understand the route we are walking. They will be placed at positions around the walking crowd to give instructions and make sure everything remains on track.

This is OUR RALLY people and the time has never been more urgent to send a message:


Our contact email is
Please email us if you will be a FACEBOOK daily 30 minute volunteer - we need you now.
Please email us if you will be a day-of volunteer. People with prior rally experience, particularly occupy experience are encouraged.

Fellow citizens, America is lulled into sleep with capitalism, consumerism, reality TV - we must wake up now before it is too late. Please activate, join us, and be with us on Nov. 28. Please work with us to make this known everywhere on social media. OUR TIME IS NOW.


Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Monday October 19, 2015, 1:37 pm

Dandelion's News Item LINK:

As stated above, "There are considerable underhanded doings going on RIGHT NOW as far as corporate media manipulating the debate results."
That's what the Petition is about.

Kathleen M (208)
Monday October 19, 2015, 1:55 pm
Shared and noted. Thanks, BMutiny!

Angelika R (143)
Monday October 19, 2015, 2:25 pm
Thanks Barbara, I hope many will take appropriate action! This is CRIMINAL ENERGY at work, very serious, nothing to just call 'trolling'! I hope Bernie got sufficient security, he may be in real danger.

Angelika R (143)
Monday October 19, 2015, 2:31 pm
Just checked, doesn't seem to be deleted..-?

Angelika R (143)
Monday October 19, 2015, 2:36 pm
OIC, it says " case fb shuts us down AGAIN.." -so they're back up now.

Angelika R (143)
Monday October 19, 2015, 3:21 pm

Investigate Time Warner's network, (CNN), for purposeful public deception regarding the Bernie Sanders campaign.

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday October 19, 2015, 3:43 pm
Signed and shared petition
Thanks Dandelion and Angelika

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday October 19, 2015, 3:43 pm
Signed and shared petition
Thanks BMutiny

Freya H (345)
Monday October 19, 2015, 4:11 pm
The "bad guys" wouldn't be stooping to a smear campaign if they were not afraid of Bernie. In a way, this is good - it means that Sanders has quite a bit of clout.

Petition signed!

Sheryl G (359)
Monday October 19, 2015, 4:35 pm
I'll be sure to add this on my next send out.....thanks my friend and Angelika for the additional petition. We seem to be getting dirty deeds from the Corporate types concerning Bernie.

Also please consider signing this petition as well if you haven't already.
CNN We Saw What You Did

Animae C (509)
Monday October 19, 2015, 8:13 pm
Both petitions signed
Thanx Angie & Dande

Thanx BM

Past Member (0)
Monday October 19, 2015, 8:19 pm
Signed petitions. Not a FBer. I certainly see the down and dirty, totally undemocratic tactics going on. The media is jumping through hoops, so that includes the internet. One of the basic differences between the candidates, is that only one wouldn't accept the seat, if it was won with dirty big corporation money, lies, strong-arming, unfair, unethical, even illegal methods. Thank you BMutiny for your ongoing, tireless labor of love, on behalf of Earth and all that lives.

Rose Becke (141)
Monday October 19, 2015, 10:10 pm
Signed Both

Rose Becke (141)
Monday October 19, 2015, 10:15 pm
Thank you for signing this petition!

You've successfully signed the petition "Investigate Time Warner's network, (CNN), for purposeful public deception regarding the Bernie Sanders campaign.". Your signature has been verified and counted.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 12:47 am
Crazy. Americs talk Bernie. No talk Congress. Bernie win, Congress fight. Hillary win, Congress fight. Joe win, Congress fight. Problem Congress.

Past Member (0)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 3:52 am
What a man. Both signed-thx Angie-BM+Dandelion

jan b (5)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 5:06 am
Curiosity brings people out but Sanders has no chance----he was ineffective in congress in getting legislation passed----and no one in the media has criticized him yet---wait til the Soviet Flag comes out --and his honeymoon in communist Russia-----Voted in favor of corporate gun manufacturers----and voting to fund Israel with loans and grants---and every war so to bring military contractors to VT.

IF Hillary as the most accomplished as First Lady of Ark & USA and the Senate and Sec of State and on every issue you can name ----isn't elected President then I suggest in all kindness---

That we notify every daughter---grand-daughter---every schoolgirl that not to set their goal on the presidency because in the USA it doesn't matter if you are more qualified than any man-----it's not possible for a woman to be president in the USA-----only in other countries.

jan b (5)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 5:32 am
Sanders is GREAT----he praised the communist Sandanistas of Nicaragua and Castro regime in the debates. He'll get his communist country dream--when he's president---and will take out that Soviet Flag he hung in his Vt office and cherish the honeymoon in communist Russia even more.....he's on his way to making his dreams come true.......mainly on talking B.S.

pam w (139)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 5:52 am
Jan...that's just nonsense!

Try to get past your HILLARY ONLY agenda, ok? It's very, very obvious.

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 6:19 am
jan b has a history of trying to trash Dandelion's Bernie posts, throwing mud, now going after Barbara as well. Thankfully people know better and don't listen to this BS, mainly not even factual.

Winn Adams (179)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 6:26 am
Thanks Barb for the info and petitions signed!

Past Member (0)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 7:00 am
noted and signed both petitions; Thank you Barbara, Thank you Angelika & Dandelion for the petitions!

Sheryl G (359)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 7:35 am
Jan claims she is a Democrat but she acts more like a Republican....I think she is reading all their Right Wing crap and placing it as truth upon the threads.

I noticed Jan didn't come onto the threads of the stories that verified the Truth. How Bernie Sanders went Russia via his job duties as Mayor of Burlington, VT via a program that was started by President Eisenhower to trying to tamper down the Cold War a notch or two by bringing understanding to the two Countries and their people.

The "honeymoon" was a "joke" but Jan is spinning this into something it wasn't. I don't know too many people that take a honeymoon and bring 10 people along with them. Remember this was "official" business that just so happened to take place right after the couple had married. Their "joke'.....ha ha, honeymoon with 10 people in tow.

For those who'd like the truthful story behind the "honeymoon" see article below.
Anderson Cooper Claim About Bernie Sanders Soviet Union Honeymoon Was Red Baiting and Deceptive

As for Bernie Sanders Record go to this article:
Bernie GETS IT DONE Record of Pushing Through Major Reforms

As for the last statement Jan made concerning Nicaragua one can read about that here. I happen to like to vote for people who stand on the correct side of history.
Bernie Sanders Opposed ILLEGAL CIA War

If Jan had actually read any of those stories she may of "learned" something.....but it's too important for her to muddy the waters and keep pushing the LIES. Ignorance is one thing, but deliberate ignorance is intolerable. I know she has found all the other Bernie Sander stories on C2, why not the articles that dispelled her untruths?

Is that the kind of future you want for all those daughters and granddaughters is getting a Candidate into office based on deceit? If just getting a vagina into office is your main priority that is the problem we are all facing in this Country people voting in people based on one reason alone, ie. abortion, guns, the Candidates religion, so now it's gender.

Birgit W (160)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 8:47 am

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 11:13 am
Jan: Oooooh, Bernie Sanders can't get legislation passed but he'll turn the whole country Communist....

This FEAR-MONGERING sounds like what RETHUGLICANS regularly do!
There is ALL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD between Socialism, as in Social Democracy or Democratic Socialism, and authoritarian Soviet-style Communism.
My Parents voted Socialist in the 1930's depression when Norman Thomas was running on the Socialist ticket. Franklin Delano Roosevelt WON, because he CO-OPTED Thomas's Socialist Program for the DEMOCRATS. This program first put forth by the AMERICAN SOCIALIST PARTY was what the PEOPLE wanted and needed! And FDR won by adopting most of it for his own party.

Bernie Sanders is actually VERY MIDDLE-OF-THE-ROAD. That's what he would be considered to be in Europe. He doesn't suggest Nationalizing all industries! The Social Democrats in the Scandinavian countries are considered Middle-of-the-road. My REAL LEFTY friends, and people like Chris Hedges, DESPISE Bernie Sanders for NOT BEING NEARLY LEFT ENUF!!!

As far as having a Vagina in the White House [love that phrase, Dandelion!], how much good did it do having a Vagina as British Prime Minister, i.e. Margaret Thatcher, strike-breaker and the vagina equivalent of Ronald Reagan.....

It's the RETHUGLICANS that compare Bernie to Pol Pot, Stalin, and Mao.
Geez, are we so SCARED of what Sweden, Norway and Denmark have? THEY HAVE A MUCH HIGHER STANDARD OF LIVING THAN THE U.S.
The U.S. is "number one" NO MORE. WE NEED WHAT THEY HAVE. Again that would be like "saving Capitalism from itself" as FDR did, or having, as the Scandinavian countries define it, a "Mixed Economy".

As far as that "Honeymoon in the Soviet Union" goes, [or "displaying some flag or other for whatever reason", probably the same "sister-city" diplomacy];] that's RED-BAITING, pure and simple!!!
Yeah, displaying some flag [a long time ago] means we KNOW that Bernie will call out the troops to impose Communism and Martial Law by force - and the Pentagon will of course obey, what choice will they have!!!!!

Leave THAT to the Rethuglican and Mass Media DIRTY TRICKS DEPARTMENT.... they'll do it as much as we let them get away with.....

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 11:23 am
It ispeople like Jan who, along with the entire beltway criminal gang, fear the final fall of this crumbling empire that prides itself "the greatest nation on earth", which is the biggest lie and greatest FAILURE on earth!

Don't waste your energies by responding to the hateful deliberate trash posted!

Angelika R (143)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 11:25 am
If you try to fight this wind of change so badly needed, the next hurrican will just blow you away. The old system has lost, defeated, over time for a new one coming to the rescue!

Lois Jordan (63)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 2:21 pm
Noted. Thanks for posting, BMutiny.
I'm not on Facebook, and had no idea this was going on. Sure wish I could attend; and I would even go on that holiday weekend, but I'm on the other side of the country. Really hoping that tens of thousands do show up.

Yes, I think many, many of us are sick and tired that the media "chooses" the candidates simply by either ignoring them, or portraying them in an ugly and divisive way. Think back to the "swiftboating" of Kerry---while Dan Rather was fired for trying to tell the truth about Bush's military desertion, (there's a new movie about this now with Robert Redford as Rather). At the time, this was a new political low. But, just when you think they can't sink any lower......
It IS up to all of us to never let this happen again and fight back by standing together.

Janet B (0)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 3:08 pm

Roger G (148)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 3:36 pm
noted, thanks

Kay M (46)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 9:12 pm

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 9:16 pm
'The problem with [Hillary Clinton's] narrative is that it is completely false.
Not only has Sanders gotten a lot more things done than Clinton did in her own short legislative career,
he's actually one of the most effective members of Congress, passing bills, both big and small, that have reshaped American policy on key issues like poverty, the environment and health care.'

From the article, "Bernie Sanders Gets Things Done", from Alternet.

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 9:21 pm
'Sanders did something particularly original, which was that he passed amendments that were exclusively progressive, advancing goals such as reducing poverty and helping the environment, and he was able to get bipartisan coalitions of Republicans who wanted to shrink government or hold it accountable and progressives who wanted to use it to empower Americans.

Here are a few examples of the amendments Sanders passed by building unusual but effective coalitions:

Corporate Crime Accountability (February 1995): A Sanders amendment to the Victims Justice Act of 1995 required “offenders who are convicted of fraud and other white-collar crimes to give notice to victims and other persons in cases where there are multiple victims eligible to receive restitution.”

Saving Money, for Colleges and Taxpayers (April 1998): In an amendment to H.R. 6, the Higher Education Amendments of 1998, Sanders made a change to the law that allowed the Fund for the Improvement of Postsecondary Education to make competitive grants available to colleges and universities that cooperated to reduce costs through joint purchases of goods and services.

Holding IRS Accountable, Protecting Pensions (July 2002): Sanders' amendment to the Treasury and General Government Appropriations Act of 2003 stopped the IRS from being able to use funds that “violate current pension age discrimination laws.” Although he faced stiff GOP opposition, his amendment still succeeded along a 308 to 121 vote.

Expanding Free Health Care (November 2001): You wouldn't think Republicans would agree to an expansion of funds for community health centers, which provide some free services. But Sanders was able to win a $100 million increase in funding with an amendment.

Getting Tough On Child Labor (July 2001): A Sanders amendment to the general appropriations bill prohibited the importation of goods made with child labor.

Increasing Funding for Heating for the Poor (September 2004): Sanders won a $22 million increase for the low-income home energy assistance program and related weatherization assistance program.

Fighting Corporate Welfare and Protecting Against Nuclear Disasters (June 2005): A Sanders amendment brought together a bipartisan coalition that outnumbered a bipartisan coalition on the other side to successfully prohibit the Export-Import Bank from providing loans for nuclear projects in China.

Once Sanders made it to the Senate in 2006, his ability to use amendments to advance a progressive agenda was empowered. Here are some of the amendments he passed in the Senate:

Greening the U.S. Government (June 2007): A Sanders amendment made a change to the law so at least 30 percent of the hot water demand in newer federal buildings is provided through solar water heaters.

Protecting Our Troops (October 2007): Sanders used an amendment to win $10 million for operation and maintenance of the Army National Guard, which had been stretched thin and overextended by the war in Iraq.

Restricting the Bailout to Protect U.S. Workers (Feburary 2009): A Sanders amendment required the banking bailout to utilize stricter H-1B hiring standards to ensure bailout funds weren't used to displace American workers.

Helping Veterans' Kids (July 2009): A Sanders amendment required the Comptroller General to put together comprehensive reporting on financial assistance for child care available to parents in the Armed Forces.

Exposing Corruption in the Military-Industrial Complex (November 2012): A Sanders amendment required “public availability of the database of senior Department officials seeking employment with defense contractors” – an important step toward transparency that revealed the corruption of the revolving door in action.

Support for Treating Autism in Military Health Care: Sanders worked with Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) to pass an amendment by a vote of 66-29 ensuring that the military's TRICARE system would be able to treat autism.

Using the Power of a Senator

While Sanders was an amendment king who was able to bring bipartisan coalitions together to make serious changes to laws, he also knew how to be a thorn in the side of the establishment until it offered up something in return. Sanders was able to get the first-ever audit of funds given out by the Federal Reserve, which made transparent over $2 trillion of funds handed out by the secretive organization. This was a cause that Republican congressman Ron Paul (TX) had been pursuing for decades, but Sanders was able to get the votes to do it by forging a compromise that required an audit for the bailout period alone.

When the Affordable Care Act was in danger of not having the votes to pass, Sanders used his leverage to win enough funding for free health treatment for 10 million Americans through Community Health Centers. This gutsy move—holding out until the funds were put into the bill—has even Republican members of Congress requesting the funds, which have helped millions of Americans who otherwise would not have access.

Another moment came when Sanders, who was then chair of the Veterans committee, worked with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), to overhaul the Veterans Administration. McCain praised Sanders' work on the bill in an interview with National Journal. Sen. Jack Reed (D-RI) even went so far as to say the bill would never have passed without Sanders' ability to bring the parties to a deal.

His Theory of Change, From Burlington to the White House

The big question is, can Sanders translate his time as an effective senator into an effective president? After all, a legislative job is different than an executive job.

But Sanders has a theory of change, in order to be an executive who can pass progressive policy even in the face of a recalcitrant Congress. He frequently talks about a “political revolution” that means vastly increasing voter turnout and participation in political activities so conservative lawmakers and Big Money are unable to overwhelm public opinion.'

Fran F (116)
Tuesday October 20, 2015, 11:58 pm
Petitions both signed. TY, Barbara, Angelika and Dandelion.

It's bizarre that Jan describes herself as very liberal on her C2 page.

Daniel Partlow (179)
Wednesday October 21, 2015, 7:51 am
Give us Bernie!

Jonathan Harper (0)
Wednesday October 21, 2015, 9:38 am

BackSoon Fowler (33)
Thursday October 22, 2015, 3:12 am
Go Bernie Go!!!!

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Tuesday February 2, 2016, 4:16 am
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