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US Politics & Gov't  (tags: Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew, Lolita express, private island, sex with children, sexual assault, sex crimes, wealthy & powerful getting away with it )

Barbara
- 1109 days ago - observer.com
Exactly how tight is the friendship between former President and potential future first gentleman Bill Clinton and Mr. Epstein, who owns a private island in Florida, is now accused of having sex with girls as young as 12, procuring young girls for sex



   

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Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Friday July 1, 2016, 12:26 pm
Exactly how tight is the friendship between former President and potential future first gentleman Bill Clinton and Mr. Epstein, who owns a private island in Florida and is now accused of having sex with girls as young as 12 and procuring young girls for sex with other friends of his?
What was Bill Clinton doing on the island with Mr. Epstein on multiple occasions and why did he fly overseas on Mr. Epstein’s plane at least 10 times?

What hardball PR and legal tactics will Hillary Clinton’s campaign use to try to make this potential problem—which could potentially derail her planned presidential bid—disappear? Will those tactics work, or is Ms. Clinton’s campaign already dead, even if the exact time of the funeral is not yet known?

Why is the Left-Wing Media Machine pretending that anyone who asks questions about the Epstein-Clinton connection is a paid stooge of the Right-Wing Media Machine?
And why is the Right-Wing Media Machine, which would normally be gleefully talking about this or any sordid affair involving the Clintons, being unusually reserved in hyping the case? (Hint: Because some notable conservatives and prominent supporters of Israel — a constituency that used to reside solidly in the Democratic camp but which the GOP in recent years has been wooing, with some notable success— have been implicated in the Epstein scandal too.)

How did our political and media elites ever become so hopelessly corrupt?

For those of you who haven’t heard much about the Jeffrey Epstein, he is a 62-year-old billionaire and major donor to the Democratic Party.
The story erupted after Virginia Roberts gave a sworn statement in a federal court filing that claimed (as reported here by Radar) that that under Mr. Epstein’s tutelage she “was a teen sex slave forced to have sex with Prince Andrew” and that she also saw Bill Clinton on Mr. Epstein’s “orgy island.”

Mr. Epstein’s current predicament is hardly a shock. Back in 2008, at a time he had also been indicted (he was subsequently jailed for about a year) in Florida for sex crimes, Philip Weiss wrote an astonishing story about Mr. Epstein in New York magazine that showed that his legal problems back then had not, surprisingly, made him more “sober and reserved.” Much to the contrary, the allegations against him (from, among others, a 14-year-old girl) had made him more “sparkling and ingenuous.”

This earlier investigation of Mr. Epstein, led by the FBI, was reportedly closed and the evidence sealed after Mr. Epstein pleaded guilty to two “minor” counts related to charges that he was involved in underage sex. (How crimes involving sex with underage girls can be deemed “minor” is something of a mystery.)
Mr. Epstein has reportedly been a significant donor to the Clinton Foundation, before and after he was implicated in sex crimes.

THERE'S A LOT MORE..........
 

Roger G (148)
Friday July 1, 2016, 12:30 pm
too many questions that will probably never be answered because of the huge cover up my the media propaganda machine !!!
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Friday July 1, 2016, 12:44 pm
CROSS-REFERENCE:
BOTH Parties EQUALLY INVOLVED IN CORRUPTION; and SPECIFICALLY, charges of CHILD RAPE and potential Court Cases on this:

Why The New Child Rape Case Filed Against Donald Trump Should Not Be Ignored
US Politics & Gov't (tags: donald trump, child rape case, rape, sexual assault, misogyny, sexual harrassment, abuse )
Laura - huffingtonpost.com
Please read and SHARE SHARE SHARE!
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I have ALSO CROSS-REFERENCED THIS article with the above-referenced article!

BOTH PARTIES ARE EQUALLY GUILTY, ARE EQUALLY COMPROMISED - and I WILL NOT VOTE FOR EITHER.
Altho Hillary is not Bill, and as far as we know, not a Pedophile,
she has ENABLED Bill by VILIFYING Women who have creditably accused Bill of rape....
and, there is the matter of THE BIG DONORS TO HER CAMPAIGN, to whom she will be BEHOLDEN if elected. THEY ARE DEMONSTRATED, PROVED, CONVICTED CHILD RAPISTS.
Also, she will give Child-rapist Bill a prominent position in her Presidency.....
[If Bill was on that Island "just visiting" and really "did nothing" - then WHY DIDN'T HE NOTIFY THE POLICE OR THE FBI that Child Rape was going on???????????????]

So, Dem or Rethug, YOU MAY HAVE A CHOICE OF CHILD RAPISTS TO VOTE FOR.
The Support, I may add, IS DAILY GROWING for THIRD PARTY JILL STEIN.... if you want a Woman to be President!
DAILY GROWING.....
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Friday July 1, 2016, 12:56 pm
CROSS-REFERENCE: [Same as the above:]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html

WHY THE NEW CHILD RAPE CASE FILED AGAINST DONALD TRUMP SHOULD NOT BE IGNORED.
 

Peggy B (43)
Friday July 1, 2016, 1:41 pm
Wow.
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Friday July 1, 2016, 1:47 pm
An anonymous “Jane Doe” filed a federal lawsuit against GOP presumptive nominee Donald Trump last week, accusing him of raping her in 1994 when she was thirteen years old.

The mainstream media ignored the filing.
If the Bill Cosby case has taught us anything, it is to not disregard rape cases against famous men. Serious journalists have publicly apologized for turning a blind eye to the Cosby accusers for over a decade, notwithstanding the large number of women who had come forward with credible claims. And now history is repeating itself.

In covering a story, a media outlet is not finding guilt. It is simply reporting the news that a lawsuit has been filed against Mr. Trump, and ideally putting the complaint in context. Unproven allegations are just that - unproven, and should be identified that way. (Mr. Trump’s lawyer says the charges are “categorically untrue, completely fabricated and politically motivated.”) Proof comes later, at trial. But the November election will come well before any trial. And while Mr. Trump is presumed innocent, we are permitted - no, we are obligated — to analyze the case’s viability now.
No outsider can say whether Mr. Trump is innocent or guilty of these new rape charges. But we can look at his record, analyze the court filings here, and make a determination as to credibility - whether the allegations are believable enough for us to take them seriously and investigate them, keeping in mind his denial and reporting new facts as they develop.

I have done that. And the answer is a clear “yes.” These allegations are credible. They ought not be ignored. Mainstream media, I’m looking at you.

1. Consider the Context: Mr. Trump’s Overt, Even Proud Misogyny

The rape case must be viewed through the lens of Mr. Trump’s current, longstanding and well documented contempt for women. Men who objectify women are more likely to become perpetrators of sexual violence, just as one with a long history of overtly racist comments is more likely to commit a hate crime.

Mr. Trump has relished calling women “dogs,” “slobs” and “pigs,” and cyberstalked and derided journalist Megyn Kelly for having the temerity to ask him to defend his own words. He threw out the most misogynist of attacks, attempting to undermine her professionalism by accusing her of menstruating. He’s cruelly ridiculed the appearance of a female opponent (Carly Fiorina) and an opponent’s wife (Heidi Cruz). His campaign even openly acknowledged that it disqualified all women for consideration as his vice-president.

Mr. Trump has a long history of debasing women he’s worked with, crossing the line on a regular basis. He’s taken lifelong joy in objectifying women, including his proclamation: “Women, you have to treat ‘em like shit.”

This cannot be ignored. Decades of abusive language does not make him a rapist. But it does show us who the man is: a callous, meanspirited misogynist who no sane person would leave alone with her daughter. As Dr. Maya Angelou said, “When someone shows you who they really are, believe them.”

2. More context: two prior sexual assault court claims have been made against Mr. Trump

But Mr. Trump has been accused of worse than just misogynist language. Two prior women have accused Mr. Trump, in court documents, of actual or attempted sexual assault. (Mr. Trump denies all the allegations.)

Again, there is MUCH, MUCH MORE to read.....

Threats were made, by TRUMP, AND BY JEFFREY EPSTEIN, TO HARM THE CHILD RAPE VICTIMS IF THEY TALKED - and to HARM THEIR FAMILIES.
A 12-year-old, named "Maria", ACTUALLY DISAPPEARED.....
Accusing Trump NOW, even, PUTS "JANE DOE'S" LIFE IN DANGER.....

NICE GUYS, that Bill Clinton is "playing around" with.....on that "Orgy Island".....

MAKE A STINK ON THE INTERNET, SO THAT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA *MUST* PAY SOME ATTENTION!!!!!
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Friday July 1, 2016, 2:15 pm
Two unusual documents are attached to Jane Doe’s complaints - sworn declarations attesting to the facts. The first is from Jane Doe herself, telling her horrific story, including the allegation that
Jeffrey Epstein also raped her and threatened her into silence,
and this stunner:
Defendant Epstein then attempted to strike me about the head with his closed fists while he angrily screamed at me that he, Defendant Epstein, should have been the one who took my virginity, not Defendant Trump . . .

And this one:
Defendant Trump stated that I shouldn’t ever say anything if I didn’t want to disappear
like Maria, a 12-year-old female that was forced to be involved in the third incident with Defendant Trump

and that I had not seen since that third incident, and that he was capable of having my whole family killed.

The second declaration is even more astonishing, because it is signed by “Tiffany Doe”, Mr. Epstein’s “ party planner” from 1991-2000. Tiffany Doe says that her duties were “to get attractive adolescent women to attend these parties.” {Adolescents are, legally, children.}

Tiffany Doe says that she recruited Jane Doe at the Port Authority in New York, persuaded her to attend Mr. Epstein’s parties, and actually witnessed the sexual assaults on Jane Doe:

I personally witnessed the Plaintiff being forced to perform various sexual acts with Donald J. Trump and Mr. Epstein.
Both Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein were advised that she was 13 years old.

It is exceedingly rare for a sexual assault victim to have a witness. But Tiffany Doe says:
I personally witnessed four sexual encounters that the Plaintiff was forced to have with Mr. Trump during this period, including the fourth of these encounters
where Mr. Trump forcibly raped her despite her pleas to stop.

Tiffany Doe corroborates, based on her own personal observations, just about everything in Jane Doe’s complaint:
that twelve year old Maria was involved in a sex act with Mr. Trump,
that Mr. Trump threatened the life of Jane Doe if she ever revealed what happened,
and that she would “disappear” like Maria if she did.

Tiffany Doe herself says that she is in mortal fear of Mr. Trump to this day:
I am coming forward to swear to the truthfulness of the physical and sexual abuse that I personally witnessed of minor females at the hands of Mr. Trump and Mr. Epstein . . . I swear to these facts under the penalty for perjury even though I fully understand that the life of myself and my family is now in grave danger.

Given all this, and based on the record thus far, Jane Doe’s claims appear credible.
Mr. Epstein’s own sexual crimes and parties with underage girls are well documented,
as is Mr. Trump’s relationship with him two decades ago in New York City.
Mr. Trump told a reporter a few years ago: “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

Powerfully, Jane Doe appears to have an eyewitness to all aspects of her claim,
a witness who appears to have put herself in substantial danger by coming forward,
because at a minimum Mr. Epstein knows her true identity.
 

Angelika R (143)
Friday July 1, 2016, 3:46 pm
Thx BMT! Not a surprise. You will remember that I posted about the Epstein case and all its involvements already months ago in the group. Always felt it was just the tip of the iceberg!
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Friday July 1, 2016, 4:04 pm
Posted by me on another thread:

I wouldn't be surprised at "allegations" that BILL AND DONALD SHARED THE SAME 12-YEAR-OLD CHILD SEX SLAVE on that "Orgy Island", passed her around between them.....

You know, of course, that THE CHILDREN ON JEFFREY EPSTEIN'S ISLAND, were NOT ONLY UNDERAGE,
but they WERE ENSLAVED, they WERE SEX SLAVES however "willingly" they may have been lured by false promises to be there!
THEY COULD NOT LEAVE and, of course, were not allowed to TALK ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES without danger....
In other words, BOTH BILL AND DONALD WERE PARTICIPATING IN - THE RESULTS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING....
It's *OKAY* WHEN YOU'RE RICH, and can PAY THE PIMPS [like Jeffrey Epstein] LOTS OF MONEY....
 

Rose B (141)
Friday July 1, 2016, 4:57 pm
I agree with Roger
 

Animae C (508)
Friday July 1, 2016, 5:23 pm
SH*TE!!!
Will we ever get the whole Truth?!?!?
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Friday July 1, 2016, 6:03 pm
AniMae, Rose, and Roger -
We CAN get at the TRUTH if we RAISE A BIG, BIG STINK - on the Internet! - and NEVER NEVER LET UP - don't LET them Cover up! Those days are OVER!!! People ARE TALKING, and there WILL be Trials!

Just think - either THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES -
or, THE HUSBAND OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES -
SENT TO JAIL FOR
RAPING
UNDER-AGE CHILD SEX SLAVES
WHO ARE ABUSED AND BEATEN VICTIMS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING!
The EVIDENCE is ALREADY THERE.
It is just a matter of TAKING THE CORRECT LEGAL ACTION.
The EVIDENCE IS THERE.
The Victims HAVE SPOKEN OUT.
Remember - "BELIEVE THE CHILDREN".
People don't make "random accusations" WHEN THEIR LIVES ARE IN DANGER.

Just like with the PEDOPHILE PRIESTS - when NOW the Children ARE BEING BELIEVED AND NOT "SHAMED" for speaking out about it -
The UGLY TRUTH about BILL CLINTON THE HUSBAND OF HILLARY CLINTON Presidential Candidate -'
may be UNPALATABLE and DIFFICULT TO DIGEST -
but, it is SIMPLY, SIMPLY UNAVOIDABLE.

UNAVOIDABLE to see THE CLEAR, *RECORDED-IN-BLACK-AND-WHITE PROOF* - that
Bill Clinton REGULARLY HANGS OUT with a KNOWN PIMP - a CONVICTED PIMP, as a matter of fact! -
a CRUEL, RUTHLESS CRIMINAL PIMP who REGULARLY TRAFFICS IN HELPLESS ABUSED UNDERAGE CHILDREN, selling them TO THE RICH AND SUCCESSFUL, like Bill Clinton and Donald Trump -
WHO AS KNOWN CUSTOMERS OF THIS KNOWN, CONVICTED PIMP - are NOT ALL THAT DIFFERENT, are they?????????????
Do you SERIOUSLY think there is ROOM TO BELIEVE that Bill Clinton DOES NOTHING ON THIS "ORGY ISLAND" HE HAS BEEN GOING TO 10 RECORDED TIMES -
except maybe, oh, go bowling or something....
that Bill Clinton husband of Hillary, ONLY hangs out with a KNOWN NOTORIOUS CHILD-TRAFFICKING PIMP because oh, he's good at telling jokes or something....
and that he didn't even NOTICE that any such thing as Underage Child Rape of Physically Abused Sex-Trafficked Females was going on -'
WHICH IT WAS HIS DUTY, and yours and mine if we see it, HIS DUTY TO REPORT TO THE FBI, with which Bill Clinton has DAILY CLOSE CONTACT???????????

You WANT to believe that, DON'T you - well, YOU CAN'T.
THERE JUST - IS - NOT - ROOM to believe that BILL CLINTON IS NAIVELY INNOCENT AND IS NOT A BREAKER OF SOME OF THE MOST ELEMENTARY MORAL AND LEGAL STATUTES THAT EXIST.....
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Friday July 1, 2016, 10:15 pm
Shared over social media to spread awareness.
 

Gustavo Henriqu Castro Leal (101)
Friday July 1, 2016, 10:31 pm
The case of Clinton and Epstein take underage girls to an island naturally it came to bombastic media from all over the civilized world, because the US elections mobilize the attention of the planet. Now, honestly I do not feel able to, from what I read in American newspapers, English or French - not speak of national - to take a final position on what is reality or fantasy about what happened and the ages of the girls involved. It is true that there was and there were smaller, but as far as history is manipulated in order to weaken the candidacy of Hillary Clinton is already another case. And now with the charge against the detestable Trump, I think it is all in the same quagmire in terms of sexual violence against minors. Thanks, BT
 

Maitreya L (23)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 1:27 am
With at least 26 trips on "The Lolita Express" (Epstein's Boeing 727 jet) which "was reportedly set up with a bed where guests had group sex with young girls" it seems rather unlikely Bill Clinton didn't participate, or at least know something about what was going on. . .

Jeez and Epstein himself only spent 1 day a week in jail during his pathetically short sentence? Being a registered sex offender could easily completlely ruin a normal person's life, but it would barely inconvenience a billionaire. This is all so disgusting. . .



Another article:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/30/the-billionaire-pedophile-who-could-bring-down-donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton.html

"The former president, who flew on the “The Lolita Express” at least 26 times from 2001 to 2003, has never addressed his ties with Epstein, a onetime major Democratic donor, according to Federal Election Commission records, who also gave millions to the Clinton Foundation even after his arrest for abusing underage girls. “I invest in people—be it politics or science. It’s what I do,” Epstein has reportedly said to friends."

"In her lawsuit, Guiffre had claimed that during trips to Epstein’s private island, she'd also encountered another very famous person: former President Bill Clinton. Guiffre allegesthe former U.S. president visited Epstein’s “Orgy Island” when there were underage girls present, but added that she never had sex with him and never saw him have sex with any of the young women."

"Prosecutors said Epstein’s dream team made successful prosecution unlikely. “Our judgment in this case, based on the evidence known at the time, was that it was better to have a billionaire serve time in jail, register as a sex offender, and pay his victims restitution than risk a trial with a reduced likelihood of success,” U.S. Attorney Alex Acosta explained in a 2011 letter.
And so, despite a decade of alleged serial sexual abuse and rape of an unknowable number of girls, some as many as 100 times according to court filings, the notoriously secretive financier was offered a deal. For the alleged systematic victimization of young girls—most of whom were plucked by Epstein’s assistants from Palm Beach’s poorer neighborhoods and groomed to adore or acquiesce to him—he was slapped with a 2008 conviction on a single charge of soliciting a minor; and sentenced to an 18-month stay in a Palm Beach county jail—of which he served only 13 months and was allowed to leave six day

 

Evelyn B (63)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 2:56 am
Thanks, BMutiny
When something as extremely serious as this pops up during election campaigns, and is written up in the media (alternative & some mainstream) with fingers pointing at candidates, the focus shifts from the CRIME to the political emphasis (and the victims/ survivors become tools of campaigning - victims of another form of rape because they become objects of another form of abuse.)

When the link with the elections first came up last year, Clinton was the only "serious" candidate - and this article, which appeared in March 2015, reflects this, with a focus on Bill Clinton.

At that time, Trump wasn't taken so seriously, and he escaped the finger-pointing.

This May, Fox/Faux News repeated the Clinton link to Epstein & his sex slave island, showing how often Clinton flew on Epstein's jet - with the flight records as proof - but Fox stressed that Trump wasn't part of Epstein's circles ... Flight logs show Bill Clinton flew on sex offender's jet much more than previously known

And in Why The New Child Rape Case Filed Against Donald Trump Should Not Be Ignored posted by Laura, Huff post gives the lie to Trump's lawyer, Trump & Faux News

Ironically, in this particular case, if the interests of the victims were to be given priority over specific political interests, both Clinton (indirectly) and Trump (directly) campaigns are in the line of fire, as it seems that there are statements that give the lie to Trump, Trump's lawyer & Faux News!

In May 2016, settlements talks started, to respond to the injustice of how the victims were treated in the Epstein case. The Shameful Way Feds Protected Convicted Pedophile Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein The talks are still ongoing

Don't let us forget that, while there is a political dimension that should not be ignored, there is also a very human dimension: girls who were effectively trafficked WITHIN the US, who then saw their rights to justice abused by an establishment that took ALL the necessary steps to protect their powerful & influential chief abuser
 

Evelyn B (63)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 3:02 am
I can't help thinking of the fact that there is talk (hopefully rumour, but ...) of making Bill the running mate - VP.
Which would mean that if her emails came back to hit hard, the VP would step up into the Presidency ...

QUESTION: What are the rules and regulations if BOTH President & VP are found guilty of crime ??? At the same time? Who becomes POTUS?
 

roxy H (350)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 3:41 am
i had noted this earlier.. noted this again .. and before my computer went poofy .. i had some words of wisdom.. too tired to write them now... so a ty and will come back to type later :) .. but hoping my note sticks this time
 

Dawnie W (250)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 5:08 am
❤️ :-).Hmmm!❤️
❤️ Thanking you kindly for sharing this information❤️
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Angelika R (143)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 5:49 am
Meet the American exceptionalists. That's about all I got to say.. makes you vomit.
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 9:44 am
Would love to know the truth somehow i believe it tho...it needs major investigating you'd think. thx BM
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 9:54 am
To repeat what I said above:
"I wouldn't be surprised at "allegations" that BILL AND DONALD SHARED THE SAME 12-YEAR-OLD CHILD SEX SLAVE on that "Orgy Island", passed her around between them..... " - or SHARED UNDER-AGE GIRLS ON THAT BED IN THE PRIVATE JET AIRPLANE where Bill Clinton took, now it's *26* trips, not "merely" 10 trips.....
[Yeah, he took those trips on that jet to GO BOWLING, maybe, or to PLAY TENNIS on a nice little Private Island.....]

People here need no reminder, that THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "CHILD PROSTITUTE". ALL under-age children exploited for sex, ARE VICTIMS OF SEX TRAFFICKING. No matter if their "consent" is forced, persuaded, deceived, given in exchange for something, etc. Not ONLY are those who use them for sex, breaking a technical law about age - but, they are KNOWINGLY HARMING A HUMAN BEING TRAPPED IN A HELPLESS SITUATION. A particularly Young and Vulnerable Human Being. The category "child prostitute" DOES NOT EXIST - and is gradually being expunged from the Law if it mistakenly says so. But, we here already KNEW that.....

There are NUMEROUS PICTURES showing Bill and Donald, or the Clintons and the Trumps, SOCIALIZING TOGETHER - at Society parties, on the golf course, THEY BOTH DEFINITELY MOVE IN THE SAME WEALTHY POWERFUL SOCIAL CIRCLES.
Which raises a Legitimate question: Are we ALL BEING SET UP here? Is this Election MORE OF A SHAM than even we suspect it is?????????????
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 10:49 am
I think that IS a quite valid question BMT! What can one still actually rule out these incredible days...? or can we
 

Evelyn B (63)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 10:56 am
And the rapists "come over from Mexico" ????????????
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 11:37 am
In cases where, BECAUSE OF WEALTH AND POWER, Justice WILL NEVER ACTUALLY BE DONE -
Justice being, as far as I am concerned,
LIFE SENTENCES FOR BOTH BILL AND DONALD FOR SERIAL RAPE,
FOR BEING INCORRIGIBLE, HABITUAL, MASS RAPISTS.
Serial Rapists of CHILDREN - and Serial Rapists of SEX-TRAFFICKED SLAVES.
[What does this do to the U.S. pious protestations to COMBAT SEX-TRAFFICKING AND SLAVERY - when a UNITED STATES PRESIDENT.....!!!!!!! Some International CREDIBILITY problem with that???????]

[Life Sentences is what Serial Multiple Pedophile Rapists would get, if they, and Epstein, were POOR.....]

Since this Justice will NEVER be done, AND WE ALL KNOW IT....

It is PERFECTLY RIGHT, to IN THE FACE OF OVERWHELMING AND UNMISTAKABLE, UNCHALLENGEABLE EVIDENCE - such as this IS -
TO CONVICT IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.

To, if it's ALL that's available as far as Justice for the Victims is concerned - to TRY, and to JUDGE, and to CONVICT, in the COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.
JUST THE SAME as we did for the CATHOLIC PEDOPHILE PRIESTS.

The Victims HAVE COME FORWARD - at great danger to themselves! - and TALKED.
[MORE will probably do so - unless the ones who HAVE talked, are KILLED - which remains a strong possibility!]
IT IS OUR OBLIGATION, I feel, TO BELIEVE THEM.
It is THE WORST INJUSTICE, NOT TO BELIEVE THEM.

A Formal Trial, you know and I know -
will either EXONERATE THE GUILTY, because they are Wealthy -
or, as in Epstein's PREVIOUS trial, give merely a slap on the wrist, for a "lesser charge" that they can cook up -
so, A TRIAL WILL NOT - repeat, WILL NOT - establish the Truth!!!!
YOU KNOW THAT, AND I KNOW THAT.
"Justice" thru a Trial - if it ever even comes to that, and BLACKMAIL [or Death Threats!] WILL ENSURE THAT IT DOESN'T -
"Justice" thru a Trial, WHATEVER THE VERDICT, yes or no -
"Justice" WILL NOT BE DONE, WILL NOT BE REVEALED, THRU A TRIAL.
[Tho a Trial would of course be DESIRABLE, to REVEAL WHOLESALE CORRUPTION and other things!]

I UNHESITATINGLY DECLARE BOTH BILL CLINTON AND DONALD TRUMP, GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY OF SERIAL MULTIPLE RAPES OF SEX-TRAFFICKED MINORS.
There is NO WAY that they will be found in reality INNOCENT, tho their Lawyers might manage it! But, even if their Lawyers pull it off, THAT WILL NOT MEAN THEY ARE INNOCENT AND THE YOUNG GIRLS ARE LYING

[The young girls probably are aware, that SAYING THEY ACTUALLY SAW BILL CLINTON RAPING A CHILD - that would be AN INSTANT DEATH SENTENCE before the thing ever came to trial. And, there would be ENORMOUS numbers of people PAID OFF TO DENY THIS. ENORMOUS!
However, I truly believe IT IS ENUF JUST TO PUT BILL CLINTON ON THAT PLANE, "The Lolita Express" - AND TO PUT HIM ON THAT ISLAND THAT WAS THE PLANE'S DESTINATION 26 TIMES. In other words, Bill Clinton WAS SEEN to get OFF THE PLANE. And be part of whatever WAS on the Island.... which we KNOW what it was!
Again, as I've said before, IF BILL CLINTON SAW ANYTHING INVOLVING SEX WITH MINORS ON THE ISLAND, IT WOULD BE HIS DUTY AS A CITIZEN IF NOT AS A PRESIDENT, AS AN UPHOLDER OF THE LAW, TO REPORT TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES - AND TO THE FBI, with whom he is in almost daily contact!
If YOU OR I see anything like that, IT IS *OUR* DUTY TO REPORT IT.....
So he is guilty of GUILTY KNOWLEDGE, and of being therefore AN ACCESSORY TO A CRIME - if nothing else, if you believe he actually "kept it in his pants" that WHOLE time - just because girls are AFRAID TO TESTIFY BILL RAPED THEM.....
 

Angelika R (143)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 12:00 pm
The phrase alone "Bill Clinton on a plane" DOES have a seriously bad taste with it these days...on top of all..
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 1:15 pm
This news should be spread by the Internet [even if other Media fail to!] ABROAD IN EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD.
It shows up the HYPOCRISY of the United States joining other countries with PIOUS WORDS to "Stamp out Human Trafficking and Slavery" -
when a PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES [one never stops being President, Bill is still addressed as such!], when a PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA -
a PRESIDENT HIMSELF engages REPEATEDLY in RAPE, in PEDOPHILIA, within the context of HUMAN TRAFFICKING and SEX SLAVERY.

As long as fervid, repeat and very-well-paying Customers such as BILL CLINTON and DONALD TRUMP exist,
SUCH PHONEY INSINCERE EFFORTS TO "STAMP OUT" anything become NOTHING BUT EFFORTS TO ENCOURAGE POLICE TO HARASS, BEAT UP AND JAIL POOR PEOPLE FORCED INTO SEX WORK. NOT the Culprits!!!!!
And, of course, ENSURING that the Problem will simply continue to BLIGHT POOR PEOPLES' LIVES FOREVER.....
 

Birgit W (160)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 1:53 pm
Where is my barf bag? This is just disgusting. Other people would be jailed.
 

Lois Jordan (63)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 3:14 pm
Noted. Thanks for posting, BMutiny.

I had read about this some months ago, too. And, I wondered why it wasn't getting more press.
If people thought that the incidents with Lewinsky and others were just "bad press" or "lapses in judgement," or "complete lies from someone seeking publicity," I hope we have ALL had our eyes opened now.
Seems to be a serial sex offender to me.
But, to do this to 'underage sex slaves' really tells the story of men who have absolutely no morals, and fear no consequences. This is NOT just shockingly bad judgement.
These people are the ones who believe they are TRULY ENTITLED to do whatever they want without consequence.
We definitely do not need this man in the White House again. And, the woman that he's married to, who has crowned herself as Pres, obviously has terrible judgement......at the very least.
 

Lois Jordan (63)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 3:21 pm
* I wanted to answer Evelyn B.'s question:

The Speaker of the House is next in line for the Presidency after the Vice President.
Although, political machines being what they are, this process can be manipulated.

When Nixon was President, and there were rumblings about impeachment, Spiro Agnew was his V.P.
There were some charges brought against Agnew for 'improprieties." (Sorry, I don't remember the particulars, I was very young at that time and ill-informed). So, he stepped down from being V.P. and Gerald Ford became the new V.P.
When Nixon was forced from office, Ford became President.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 4:08 pm
Thanks, Lois

I wondered if that was the case (but didn't realise that the VP replacement rule had been invoked before)
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 6:21 pm
The overly-publicized-for-political-purposes Monica Lewinski affair, WAS between Consenting Adults - and, Bill Clinton is not the FIRST President to have sleazy affairs, JFK for one, certainly did; and in fact if the Clintons had what is called an "open marriage", as many people do these days, they would not be able to actually SAY that for Political purposes, it would offend Conservative Americans too much.
In other words, if Bill had permission from Hillary to be a sex hound, as seems to be the case, that is strictly THEIR business between them only, as far as I'm concerned.

But - sex WITH CHILD SLAVES is an ENTIRELY different matter, DIFFERENT ENTIRELY from extra-marital sex with a dozen or a hundred, willing adult women and/or men! singly or in orgies!
Altho there were some accusations against Bill for rape from other women at that time, they WERE dismissed as "politically-motivated", which seemed PLAUSIBLE at that time - altho in the light of events NOW, one has to wonder! Anyway, these were ADULT women who were NOT held in "coercive circumstances" and it was more a he-said she-said thing, difficult to evaluate.

However, this EPSTEIN CONNECTION - DIRECT, FREQUENT CONNECTION WITH A KNOWN PIMP OF UNDERAGE GIRLS - that is an ENTIRELY different matter! Altho any rape is heinous, presumably adult women now know where to get Therapy, and can get on with their lives. [Not to in any sense make light of rape, I HAVE BEEN RAPED MYSELF. As an Adult. One DOES get over it and move on - I've had therapy.]

If Epstein WERE A PIMP IN FLASHY CLOTHES, hanging out in YOUR neighborhood, peddling and luring young girls to go to work for him, would YOU be concerned? would YOU contact the Authorities?
Notice that EPSTEIN IS NEVER CALLED WHAT HE ACTUALLY IS - A PIMP FOR THE SUPER-WEALTHY.
I guess once you reach a certain income bracket, it's all an "AGREEMENT BETWEEN GENTLEMEN", or something.....

The Rethuglicans, who made a mountain-out-of-a-molehill over Monica Lewinski, did it ENTIRELY FOR POLITICAL PURPOSES. They are NOT going to PUBLICIZE BILL CLINTON'S CHILD-RAPING - not only because TRUMP DID EXACTLY THE SAME - but, no doubt OTHER PROMINENT RETHUGS WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT, are in on it too! Epstein would be NUTS if he got CLIENTS from only ONE Party - a guy like him, needs INSURANCE. As we have seen from his ABSURDLY LIGHT SENTENCE he's already got! Probably Epstein HAS DIRT ON MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY - AND MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA.
Guys like Epstein, they have HIDDEN CAMERAS in those "posh resorts" so they have always available PLENTY OF MATERIAL FOR BLACKMAIL. If you yourself aren't involved, in those Social circles PEOPLE IN YOUR FAMILY CIRCLE could well be! THIS IS THE PIMP'S INSURANCE POLICY AGAINST EVER, EVER DOING ANY REAL TIME. Like an "ordinary" person caught, would....
SINCE MEMBERS OF BOTH PARTIES, and probably OF THE JUDICIARY AND THE MEDIA, are COMPROMISED, THREATENED, BLACKMAILED - you KNOW there will be NO PUBLICITY COMING FROM THOSE SOURCES.

So, it is ENTIRELY UP TO US. *WE* are going to HAVE TO BE the Exposers, the Publicizers. It's US.
OUR job, nobody else will do it.
I look on this, AS AN ESSENTIAL PART OF THE WORLD-WIDE DRIVE TO ELIMINATE SEX SLAVERY AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING. Which as you know, takes place in EVERY part of the world.
THIS IS A LOT BIGGER, EVEN, THAN BILL CLINTON, OR EVEN THAN THE AMERICAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS.
AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT, WHO MOUTHS THE APPROPRIATE PLATITUDES - for the International Community - but then DEMONSTRATES EXACTLY WHY SEX SLAVERY AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING CONTINUE TO EXIST - by his REPEATED SELF-INTERESTED ACTIONS -
How are we going to ELIMINATE this, when the Poor Folks ARE ONLY IMITATING THEIR WEALTHY AND POWERFUL ROLE MODELS????? To try to get there themselves.....

BRING - DOWN - BOTH - BILL - AND - TRUMP!!!!!
FOR THE SAKE OF ALL HUMANITY - AND ALL OUR CHILDREN AND GRANDKIDS -
any one of whom, in the Chaos of this World, COULD BE KIDNAPPED OR LURED INTO BEING A TRAFFICKED SEX SLAVE..... [What an HONOR, for an enslaved 12-year-old to Service a PRESIDENT???!!! NOT!!!!!]
 

Past Member (0)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 8:10 pm
Thanks,

Evelyn: "When the link with the elections first came up last year, Clinton was the only "serious" candidate - and this article, which appeared in March 2015, reflects this, with a focus on Bill Clinton."


The Case of the High-Flying [Alleged] Pedophile | Observer
By Ken Silverstein • 03/25/15
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 9:50 pm
YOU COULD ALL DO WHAT I JUST DID:
I sent this message [they all have "Contact Me" Sites] to President Obama, Vice-President Biden, the FIRST LADY, the ATTORNEY GENERAL, my Representative and my 2 Senators:

'Citizens are demanding a FULL INVESTIGATION of Presidential Candidate DONALD TRUMP, and possible potential First Husband and former President BILL CLINTON, and their association with CONVICTED PIMP, CHILD RAPIST AND HUMAN TRAFFICKER J. EPSTEIN. Epstein is the owner of a Private Island where there have been made Allegations that UNDERAGE CHILDREN ARE BEING EXPLOITED FOR SEX WITH WEALTHY AND PROMINENT PEOPLE. Also Mr. Epstein has a Private Jet which is called, suggestively, the "LOLITA EXPRESS", where allegedly GROUP SEX WITH UNDERAGE CHILDREN has taken place. President Clinton has been on this Jet 26 times. IS IT POSSIBLE HE WAS NOT AWARE WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE? and, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WHILE ON THE PRIVATE ISLAND, HE SAW NOTHING, NOTHING AT ALL INVOLVING UNDERAGE CHILDREN BEING EXPLOITED AND RAPED? WHY, then, did Clinton GO to such a Notorious Island, in the company of SUCH A NOTORIOUS AND MORALLY-EVIL CRIMINAL, who would EXPLOIT CHILDREN in this way? If Clinton himself "did nothing" on the Island, and "remained pure and chaste", just SEEING AND BEING AWARE OF UNDERAGE CHILDREN BEING USED, should have been REPORTED BY PRES. CLINTON TO THE AUTHORITIES AND TO THE FBI - with whom President Clinton IS IN ALMOST DAILY CONTACT. Regarding Donald Trump, ALLEGATIONS OF RAPE HAVE BEEN MADE BY WOMEN WHO WERE 12, 13, 14 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME. WHY IS THIS NOT BEING INVESTIGATED FURTHER? THIS MAN is a PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE of one of the TWO MAJOR PARTIES.
What does this say about THE U.S. EFFORTS TO COMBAT INTERNATIONAL HUMAN TRAFFICKING AND SEX SLAVERY????? Are we HYPOCRITES? How can we ASK NATIONS TO COMPLY WITH THIS EFFORT, when OUR LEADING - LEADING! - POLITICAL FIGURES NOT ONLY CONDONE, but ACTIVELY - ACTIVELY! - PARTICIPATE - PARTICIPATE! - in the FORCED SEXUAL ACTS BY ENSLAVED TRAFFICKED - CHILDREN! CHILDREN!!!!!!! These Children ARE NOT THERE BECAUSE THEY LOVE HAVING FORCED SEX WITH RICH MEN... and PEDOPHILES COMMIT A CRIME.
INVESTIGATE!!!!! NOW!!!!! CITIZENS INSIST!!!!!'
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I also posted on the Attorney General's FACEBOOK PAGE.
And intend to POST THIS MESSAGE ALL OVER CARE2, in my Groups and on my C2 News Items.

EVERYBODY could, if they wanted to, DO WHAT I DID AND POST TO THOSE SAME SITES I POSTED TO.
wwwwhitehouse.gov, house.gov, senate.gov, will get you started.....

As I said earlier, IF ANY ACTION HAPPENS - it will have to come from US, IT WILL NOT COME FROM THE MEDIA.
Also, SOMEBODY COULD GET UP A PETITION TO THE WHITE HOUSE.
If ENUF people sign the White House Petition, THE WHITE HOUSE HAS TO ANSWER.
I think that's a GREAT idea! [But I am running out of time, and somebody else can do it, maybe somebody more experienced with this sort of thing than I am.....] [Also maybe Petitions on other Venues?]

We are SO STRONG, we don't even BEGIN to know our Strength....
[You might tell Michelle Obama, and even the President, that THEY HAVE ADOLESCENT DAUGHTERS TOO.... I didn't put that in my Message, BUT I THOT ABOUT IT.....]
 

Colleen L (3)
Saturday July 2, 2016, 11:32 pm
I too am getting sick of all the BS these people throw out. How they can keep lying, I'll never understand. They will pay for their sins. Thanks BMutiny
 

Terry King (113)
Sunday July 3, 2016, 9:14 pm
The Clintons will do whatever the Clintons wish to do regardless of veracity or morality. They do this simply because they can! They feel that they are above the laws of man by way of their vast ill gotten money and political power. Neither Bill or Hillary gives a tinker"s Damn what we think!
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Sunday July 3, 2016, 9:38 pm
I posted this on Facebook:

Bill Clinton AND Donald Trump BOTH, MUST be called what they ARE - that is, CHILD RAPISTS - PEDOPHILES. BOTH have long associated with a KNOWN, CONVICTED PIMP - J. Epstein - with his suggestively named "Lolita Express" private Jet to his Private Island, where Epstein PEDDLED CHILDREN to Wealthy and Powerful men. In other words, Billionaire Epstein was a PIMP to other Billionaires. And a Pimp of ENSLAVED, TRAFFICKED CHILDREN. Bill Clinton is KNOWN to have been on that Private Jet to that Private Island, at least 26 times. Do you think he went to that island just to play badminton or something? Why do you think Clinton GOT RID OF HIS FBI GUARD when he went to that Private Island on that Private Jet? Even if Clinton "kept it in his pants" the whole time - if PRESIDENT CLINTON SAW CHILD TRAFFICKING AND CHILD RAPE GOING ON, it was his DUTY - like it would be yours and mine! - to NOTIFY THE AUTHORITIES AND THE FBI. Remember, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "CHILD PROSTITUTE". ALL trafficked Children are VICTIMS. Do you think a 12, 13, or 14-year old girl, WANTS to spend her time SERVICING a Rich, older guy - like Bill Clinton - without COERCION????? These girl-children, like other CHILDREN IN PROSTITUTION, were often LURED WITH FALSE PROMISES. Then they are ENSLAVED. HOW COULD A TEENAGE GIRL GET OFF THE ISLAND???? If these girls TELL THE JOHNS they are unhappy, if they don't SATISFY THE JOHNS, they are BEATEN. The Epsteins and Trumps of this world are GANGSTERS and CREDIBLY THREATEN TO HURT THEIR FAMILIES. They have the POWER TO REALLY DO THAT. Girls working for Epstein have been known to "disappear" - Maria, a 12-year-old, did. This is NOT the overblown, sleazy-but-legal Monica Lewinski case! But, IT WILL NOT RECEIVE THE PUBLICITY that one did - because MEMBERS OF CONGRESS OF BOTH PARTIES, MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY AND MEMBERS OF THE PRESS - THEY go to the Island and RAPE THE CHILDREN ALSO - so they can be BLACKMAILED not to talk! THAT IS HOW THESE THINGS WORK. So, it is up to US, on the INTERNET, to MAKE A BIG STINK and EXPOSE BOTH TRUMP AND CLINTON - as PEDOPHILES and as PARTICIPANTS IN HUMAN TRAFFICKING. It makes a MOCKERY of U.S. Pious Platitudes to take a stance internationally against HUMAN TRAFFICKING - when TWO LEADING PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES are actual KNOWING PARTICIPANTS IN IT. This is MORE than just Clinton's [and Trump's] escapades with Willing Adults, that I don't care a damn about! This is TERRIFIED, ABUSED, ENSLAVED, EXPLOITED CHILDREN, for Heaven's sake! Could we get INTERPOL or the UNITED NATIONS onto this - since it is TOO BIG for American institutions of Justice to deal with, and they won't do it!!!!!!!!!!!
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More on this:
I have seen the RELUCTANCE of ANYONE - anyone but myself! - to call J. Epstein what he IS - which is, by any definition, a PIMP. A Billionaire PIMPING GIRL CHILDREN TO OTHER BILLIONAIRES.

I have seen the RELUCTANCE, again, of anyone but MYSELF! - to call out BOTH DONALD TRUMP AND PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON, AS WHAT THEY ARE - PEDOPHILES. CHILD RAPISTS. As surely as any Catholic Priest!

I do not give a damn if Trump and Bill Clinton engage in group sex every night with Adult, Consenting women - or men! I do not give a damn if they are "faithful" to their wives, or what their wives think - I assume they have some "arrangement". THAT IS NOT THE POINT. The whole Lewinsky thing WAS JUST POLITICS, that's all it signified.

However, it is AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT MATTER when it comes to CHILDREN. These are NOT "oversexed teenagers who are just a few months short of being of age". These are ENSLAVED HUMAN BEINGS, FORCED TO DO SEX ACTS by threats of Bodily Harm, and even DEATH! and Death and Bodily Harm to their FAMILIES.... by people WITH DEFINITELY THE MEANS TO CARRY IT OUT.

This will NOT get the PUBLICITY that harmless Monica Lewinsky did - FOR OBVIOUS REASONS! So, it is UP TO US to do that ON THE INTERNET!!!!!!
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Sunday July 3, 2016, 10:05 pm
Terry:
It is NOT so much a matter of what Bill & Hillary THINK!
It is a matter of - JUSTICE!!!!!!!
JUSTICE FOR THE ENSLAVED, ABUSED, EXPLOITED-FOR-SEX CHILDREN that BOTH DONALD TRUMP, AND BILL CLINTON - RAPED, RAPED REPEATEDLY.
Well, nobody has come forward YET and said they actually SAW Bill Clinton RAPING A CHILD. As they HAVE, in the instance of DONALD TRUMP.
But, Bill Clinton *WAS PROVED TO BE THERE WHEN IT HAPPENED*.
He WAS ON THE ISLAND, and ON THE PRIVATE JET, called "THE LOLITA EXPRESS". MANY times.
That MAKES BILL CLINTON AN ACCESSORY TO A CRIME - a very HEINOUS Crime, A CRIME AGAINST A CHILD, AN ENSLAVED, TRAFFICKED CHILD.
He should NOT BE ABLE TO GET AWAY WITH THIS, don't you agree???? AT LEAST, PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
This is going to be OUR "FIRST HUSBAND"????? receiving Ambassadors, etc., WHEN BILL CLINTON SHOULD BE IN JAIL WITH ALL THE OTHER PEDOPHILES.......
====================

I am VERY SERIOUS about SEEKING JUSTICE [and release from Slavery! which is STILL ON-GOING!] -
SEEKING JUSTICE FOR THE MANY, MANY ENSLAVED CHILDREN OVER THE YEARS
EXPLOITED by Epstein, by Trump, by Bill Clinton, by SO MANY OTHERS,
MEN OF WEALTH AND OF POLITICAL POWER.....

We will have to seek help OUTSIDE THE U.S., since High Officials in the U.S. ARE UNDOUBTEDLY COMPROMISED.
BY BLACKMAIL! By having been invited to that Island THEMSELVES.... and responding to that irresistible BAIT!!! [That is how PIMPS LIKE EPSTEIN DO BUSINESS - they are NO FOOLS!!!!!]

I am thinking of INTERPOL. Also, the United Nations. Also, THERE ARE INTERNATIONAL BODIES WORKING ON HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

Somebody with the time, could GET UP A PETITION TO THE WHITE HOUSE. To INVESTIGATE. For the FBI and the Attorney General.
If they get a certain number of signatures, the White House HAS TO REPLY, at least!
I regret that I do not at present have the time it would take to see such a Petition thru.....
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday July 4, 2016, 1:20 am
Shared all the articles over social media, BMutiny.
 

Rose B (141)
Tuesday July 5, 2016, 10:03 pm
I dont give a shit who you are ! don't have sex with children
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 12:01 am
Rose Becke's point is PERFECT and needs AMPLIFICATION.

Anyone who thinks it's okay to engage with children sexually, is diseased and dysfunctional.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 1:20 am
BM - how can one describe Epstein as other than a pimp or a "Madam" in this context?

His "coin" may be influence rather than cash, but he's been selling children's services in exchange for SOMETHING (and has invested a sizeable sum in the island bordello) ... which makes him a male "Madam" or a pimp. Period!
 

Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 3:40 am
Your new post Thomas Jefferson: America's Founding Sociopath is a perfect illustration of how cover-up of US leaders sexual (mis)behaviour & paedophilia is not a new reality!

In French there is a saying "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose" (“the more it changes, the more it's the same thing”) ...
 

Barbara Tomlinson (431)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 10:51 am
THIS will REALLY make you ILL.....

PIMP J. EPSTEIN -
was INVITED TO CHELSEA CLINTON'S WEDDING!!!!!!!!!!

After you've finished BARFING..... PLEASE GO ON AND TELL EVERYONE.....!

What kind of MOTHER [and FATHER!] would......!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Oh, I want you to meet DADDY'S GOOD FRIEND, HIS PIMP.....!" [of little girls, like you once were....]
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 11:47 am
This is not highlighting Bubba's involvement but the other two, mainly Trump. William Boardman picked up the subject in his latest very long piece, for anyone who may have missed:
* http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/37854-trump-child-rape-claim-for-100-million-denied-by-trump-attorney *

He does suggest there MAY be some more media attention now, let's hope he's right.
 

Evelyn B (63)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 12:15 pm
Thanks for that link, Angie -

The most sickening part is the last paragraph, which ends:

"President Clinton’s ugly sexual history offers a stark warning to victims as to just how hard it is to get a fair hearing against sexual predators at the pinnacle of American power. Clinton’s abiding popularity is a measure of the extent to which the U.S. is a rape culture. Even if the child rape charges against Trump were proved beyond a reasonable doubt tomorrow, there’s no assurance that would hurt him in the polls. "
 

Angelika R (143)
Wednesday July 6, 2016, 3:07 pm
Agree, so very stunningly depressing that is!
 

Rose B (141)
Thursday July 7, 2016, 6:11 pm
I wouldnt piss on Epstein if he was on fire .
And the people who associate with this low life
 

Darren Woolsey (218)
Friday July 8, 2016, 12:02 am
Do not reduce yourself, Rose, to the level of a creature not worthy to tie your show laces.
 

David Howard (0)
Monday July 25, 2016, 3:24 pm
Cathy O'Brien describes her sexual assault perpetrated by Hillary Clinton in her book, Trance Formation of America, at Swiss Villa-Lampe, Missouri, 1983.
 
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