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Canada, U.S. Agree To Use Each Other's Troops In Civil Emergencies

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Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.


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Cheryl B (375)
Monday February 25, 2008, 5:51 am
Canada, U.S. Agree To Use Each Other's Troops In Civil Emergencies

By David Pugliese
Canwest News Service

22/02/08 "Canwest News" -- -- Canada and the U.S. have signed an agreement that paves the way for the militaries from either nation to send troops across each other's borders during an emergency, but some are questioning why the Harper government has kept silent on the deal.

Neither the Canadian government nor the Canadian Forces announced the new agreement, which was signed Feb. 14 in Texas.

The U.S. military's Northern Command, however, publicized the agreement with a statement outlining how its top officer, Gen. Gene Renuart, and Canadian Lt.-Gen. Marc Dumais, head of Canada Command, signed the plan, which allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency.

The new agreement has been greeted with suspicion by the left wing in Canada and the right wing in the U.S.

The left-leaning Council of Canadians, which is campaigning against what it calls the increasing integration of the U.S. and Canadian militaries, is raising concerns about the deal.

"It's kind of a trend when it comes to issues of Canada-U.S. relations and contentious issues like military integration. We see that this government is reluctant to disclose information to Canadians that is readily available on American and Mexican websites," said Stuart Trew, a researcher with the Council of Canadians.

Trew said there is potential for the agreement to militarize civilian responses to emergency incidents. He noted that work is also underway for the two nations to put in place a joint plan to protect common infrastructure such as roadways and oil pipelines.

"Are we going to see (U.S.) troops on our soil for minor potential threats to a pipeline or a road?" he asked.

Trew also noted the U.S. military does not allow its soldiers to operate under foreign command so there are questions about who controls American forces if they are requested for service in Canada. "We don't know the answers because the government doesn't want to even announce the plan," he said.

But Canada Command spokesman Commander David Scanlon said it will be up to civilian authorities in both countries on whether military assistance is requested or even used.

He said the agreement is "benign" and simply sets the stage for military-to-military co-operation if the governments approve.

"But there's no agreement to allow troops to come in," he said. "It facilitates planning and co-ordination between the two militaries. The 'allow' piece is entirely up to the two governments."

If U.S. forces were to come into Canada they would be under tactical control of the Canadian Forces but still under the command of the U.S. military, Scanlon added.

News of the deal, and the allegation it was kept secret in Canada, is already making the rounds on left-wing blogs and Internet sites as an example of the dangers of the growing integration between the two militaries.

On right-wing blogs in the U.S. it is being used as evidence of a plan for a "North American union" where foreign troops, not bound by U.S. laws, could be used by the American federal government to override local authorities.

"Co-operative militaries on Home Soil!" notes one website. "The next time your town has a 'national emergency,' don't be surprised if Canadian soldiers respond. And remember - Canadian military aren't bound by posse comitatus."

Posse comitatus is a U.S. law that prohibits the use of federal troops from conducting law enforcement duties on domestic soil unless approved by Congress.

Scanlon said there was no intent to keep the agreement secret on the Canadian side of the border. He noted it will be reported on in the Canadian Forces newspaper next week and that publication will be put on the Internet.

Scanlon said the actual agreement hasn't been released to the public as that requires approval from both nations. That decision has not yet been taken, he added.

Ottawa Citizen 2008
Copyright 2008 CanWest Interactive

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Cheryl B (375)
Monday February 25, 2008, 7:14 am
I dont watch TV, but they say this was in secret and nt announce, must have leaked into the papers.........anyone heard of this? BC now has homeland security drivers license, chiped, to use to cross border into USA, and MORE IS COMING HOMELAND SECURITY IN CANADA, HARPER GO TO HELL WITH BUSH

Tim Redfern (581)
Monday February 25, 2008, 11:41 am
Sunshine, I've been aware of
The North American Union (The SPP)
for close to 10 years now.
It's real, and it's coming a'pace.
Do a Google search for the new currency,
the "Amero", which is already in
production at the Denver Mint.
This troop-sharing agreement seems to me
to be just another piece of the puzzle
falling into place.
Within a few years, Canada, Mexico and
the U.S. will all be one big happy country
(yeah, right) a'la The European Union.
btw, Sunshine, I don't watch TV either,
it's a weapon of mass distraction. I get
ALL my news online and from Sirius Satellite
noted, my friend! :-)

Cheryl B (375)
Monday February 25, 2008, 11:49 am
NAFTA was a lead in to NAU or SPP.

Cheryl B (375)
Monday February 25, 2008, 11:51 am
ah but we didn't expect 9/11 the patriot act and homeland security to come with it to rule the world

Blacktiger P (247)
Monday February 25, 2008, 1:48 pm
I will probably be gone to "Summerland" by the time this all comes about, but I worry about my kids, kids's kids and so on. They seem like I am being just a silly old gal and I don't know how to clue them in.

Irene D (0)
Monday February 25, 2008, 2:05 pm
the north american horrifying

Cheryl B (375)
Monday February 25, 2008, 2:20 pm
how can Irene D. who joined feb25/08 t0day, with no friends,have 0 butterfiles at present but a total of 58 butterfies, someone want to explaint aht to me or is this another care2 gltich and a troll

Cheryl B (375)
Monday February 25, 2008, 2:22 pm
or did they sign 58 petitions in one day and is someone else.

Cheryl B (375)
Monday February 25, 2008, 2:24 pm
Lamargo/Black Tiger already Here, they did the EU first, plan one for asian that has already started by breaking it down mjuch of of, and one for africa, i hope SAmerica gives them the boot, while globalization is a wonderful idea with no boarders, same currencies etc., we are nto ready for it, nor who is planning it without our consent. gees back here again

Cheryl B (375)
Monday February 25, 2008, 2:26 pm
i can;t do this now i just up for minutes at time here, but what is being said on the bloggers is much more eye opening that this not up to getting links to them,

Cheryl B (375)
Monday February 25, 2008, 2:34 pm
ps, Tim already posted re the Amero, one guy was posting fakes 'possibly 'has he as done before mine is grom www.globalresearch.da

Cheryl B (375)
Monday February 25, 2008, 2:34 pm , GEESH

Past Member (0)
Monday February 25, 2008, 2:51 pm
That's a sick ass idea! It also is one aspect of the unified continent idea of those pricks that rule us! No borders, come as you are and take pot luck on the backs of our citizens! One giant police continent, sounds absolutely terrible!

Roseann d (178)
Monday February 25, 2008, 3:14 pm
Well if there is one thing citizens have in common in all three countries - most people don't want it. So we should find a way to ban together - against it!

Shane W (95)
Monday February 25, 2008, 4:04 pm
They aren't going to be happy until they have a world government. North America and South America are the last holdouts for becoming Unions. North America is fast on its way. I don't know how far they have gotten with South America.

Roseann d (178)
Monday February 25, 2008, 5:18 pm
Eventually they want the North American Union to just be the American Union which will include S.A.

. (0)
Monday February 25, 2008, 5:35 pm

Cheryl B (375)
Tuesday February 26, 2008, 3:04 am

Cheryl B (375)
Tuesday February 26, 2008, 5:13 am

Past Member (0)
Tuesday February 26, 2008, 10:33 am
South America will be a tough nut to crack. Good revolutinaries always come from South America and they will put up the good fight! Most people in South America work with their hands for a subsistence kind of life devoid of Television so they are not dumbed down like Americans!
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