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Petition Pay Carers An Allowance Equivalent to a Fulltime Job at the National Living Wage

Health & Wellness  (tags: Petition, Carers, allowance, National Living Wage, job )

- 394 days ago -
Since my mother (who has ONE depleted functioning kidney and has dialysis) became severely anemic, and has spent the last 3.5 of the last 5 months in hospital, I am NOW her full time carer. The amount we're paid is a pittance. PLEASE SIGN & SHARE.


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Lone F (65)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 2:30 pm
Only British citizens or UK residents have the right to sign

Noted with thanks

Darren Woolsey (218)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 2:35 pm
Please SHARE over your network. . . . you'll have British friends.

Philippa Powers (10)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 2:52 pm
I would love to sign; but, I'm not a British citizen. So sorry.

Kathleen M (211)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 2:52 pm
Unable to sign, but definitely shared. Good luck Darren! Blessings...

Sheryl G (360)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 3:46 pm
Ah look at your lovely Mum.....I hope she feels better real soon.

Yes, most of us have friends in the UK that have supported our petitions on many things. I already posted on FB in various groups and will send out in my next Dandelion Seeds.

Animae C (507)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 3:51 pm
4,473 signatures
We've added your signature to the petition:
Pay carers an allowance equivalent to a full time job at the National Living Wage.

Shared on G+ (i'm not on any other networks)
And will share amongst my friends in the UK.

TY Daz

Animae C (507)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 3:53 pm
Awwww is that your precious mama?
What a dear sweetheart, Blessings, sending her Love & Light.

Past Member (0)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 3:56 pm
So sorry that I'm not able to support this - would love to do!!! Cross all my fingers for you and your mum, Darren and hope you both get what you deserve - THE BEST!!!

Darren Woolsey (218)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 4:07 pm
Yep, AniMae, that's my dear lovely Mum. . . . worth her weight in every precious metal on planet earth.

Thanks for the shares and signatures!

Animae C (507)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 4:16 pm
Bless you both!!

Angela K (377)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 4:20 pm
Noted & shared

All the best for your lovely mom Darren !

Beryl Ludwig (80)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 5:44 pm
Healing prayers and love for you both my friend. I wish I could sign, but share def.

Glennis W (395)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 6:57 pm
Many Blessing to you and your Mum Should be made world wide the petition is the same in all countries. Thank you for caring and sharing Darren

fly b (26)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 7:16 pm
Thank you for the petition, Darren.

Precious mum!!! **********

Colleen L (3)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 11:21 pm
Sorry I can't sign. Not British citizen. Thanks Darren.

Lynn Squance (235)
Saturday October 21, 2017, 11:32 pm
Member of the Commonwealth I am, but that seems not to matter anymore. Your mum is wonderful. Reminds me of my mum for whom I was a part time caregiver. She was in a long term nursing facility but there were still things I had to do. I could not afford to have her at home, not to mention the stairs would have been too much. Blessings for you and your mum.

Judy C (91)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 1:29 am
Your Mum looks like such a sweet lady, Darren. I can't sign the petition in the US, but there are a couple of places that I can share it. Society shows that they don't value the elderly and disabled by paying such low wages to family caregivers. This is one of the most worthwhile things a that a person can do, but they pay as little as they can possibly get by with. It's the same way here in the US. Here, they pay family members much less than they pay to a home health agency. They also don't usually pay for nearly as many hours of work as the caregiver puts in, in many or even most cases. Keep up the good work, Darren.

Darren Woolsey (218)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 1:35 am
Thanks for the sharing. . . .

For your information, I get Carer's Allowance, and then I sell my possessions to pay bills, and buy food.

Joan H (121)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 2:40 am
Signed and noted Darren. Will share as widely as I can. Holding your dear mum in the light.
kind regards, Joan

S J (130)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 2:53 am
Signed and confirmed email. Meows Darren

Apolonia P (392)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 4:46 am
Signed - I lived for one year in UK, so I can be counted as part-citizen, don't you think?... ;-) 4,579 signatures so far.

SylvieBusy A (191)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 5:09 am
Noted & signed.
Thanks, Darren

Barb SiteIssues V (202)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 9:36 am
Noted, Thanks

Darren Woolsey (218)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 11:24 am
Those of you who cannot sign, please share over your own social media networks. . . every signature and share will help.


Bonnie Lynn M (1)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 3:29 pm
British citizens only

wendy k (160)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 3:50 pm
Signed with pleasure Darren, tweeted and shared where ever i could, sending love hugs to your Mom, and you for being there with her now, x wendy k x & kelly cats xxxxxxxxxx
If anyone wants to sign , to help Darren you can use, Birmingham, England - B33 8UQ .

Gloria p (304)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 5:10 pm
Only British citizens or UK residents have the right to sign.

Raleighaway k (356)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 6:00 pm
Sorry, not a British citizen ty

Beryl Ludwig (80)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 7:32 pm
Wendy you are a genius.

Beryl Ludwig (80)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 9:11 pm
thank you Animae for the insight.
Love yo your cccccccc and Mum Darren

Katka Oelmann (279)
Sunday October 22, 2017, 9:28 pm
Noted and shared. Thank you Darren & hugs to your mum.

Animae C (507)
Monday October 23, 2017, 6:16 am
Thank you Beryl!

Kathryn I (2)
Monday October 23, 2017, 6:37 am
Tried to sign, but I am not a UK citizen. Thank you, Darren!!

Winn A (179)
Monday October 23, 2017, 6:44 am
Noted - wish I could sign

Sheryl G (360)
Monday October 23, 2017, 7:02 am


Ed Site Issues V (198)
Monday October 23, 2017, 7:48 am
Noted, Thanks

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday October 23, 2017, 11:40 am
Have sent a note to everyone who has said they cannot sign, requesting that they share.

Animae C (507)
Monday October 23, 2017, 2:16 pm

Birmingham, England - B33 8UQ


Fran F (116)
Monday October 23, 2017, 6:33 pm
Noted. Sending best wishes to you and your dear mum, Darren. Will share.

Freya H (345)
Monday October 23, 2017, 6:43 pm
Rats - UK citizens only. :(

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday October 23, 2017, 11:06 pm
Birmingham, England - B33 8UQ
West Yorkshire, BD2 1PX

MmAway M (516)
Tuesday October 24, 2017, 12:21 am
Think I got this signed Darren with Beryl's help.
Yet, I will forward off to my friends. I know personally what you are going through and it isn't easy.

Tis done dear friend! xxoo with prayers you get HELP

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We've added your signature to the petition:

Pay carers an allowance equivalent to a fulltime job at the National Living Wage

MmAway M (516)
Tuesday October 24, 2017, 12:23 am
You have worked so hard feeding her what she wants!!! Thank you for your updates GOD BLESS YOU!

Animae C (507)
Tuesday October 24, 2017, 4:40 am

4,898 signatures

Nancy C (806)
Tuesday October 24, 2017, 6:11 am
precious mum! sharing Darren...

Peggy B (43)
Tuesday October 24, 2017, 6:47 am
# 4936 Signed with my UK address.

William Barratt (49)
Tuesday October 24, 2017, 7:34 am
Signed. Thank you AniMae for sharing.

Peggy B (43)
Tuesday October 24, 2017, 7:42 am
I also shared it with my UK family and friends asking that they sign and to share, share, share. My sister in law cared for my mother in law who was bedridden from a stroke for 6 years and received no carer's allowance because she was on disability herself. The family helped, but it is a daunting 24 hour job. I claimed carer's allowance and turned it over to my sister in law as I didn't need the money. It was a piddling £42 (approx. $65 USD) a week back in 2006 for 32 hours work which required using a hoist to get her in and out of bed.

Gloria p (304)
Tuesday October 24, 2017, 9:30 am
You must be a British citizen or normally live in the UK to create or sign petitions.

Darren Woolsey (218)
Tuesday October 24, 2017, 4:48 pm
Have reshared the petition over social media again. . . we've got 5,000+ signatures.

Please RESHARE over your own social media networks, or use the British addresses to sign. Thanks.

Animae C (507)
Wednesday October 25, 2017, 5:21 pm

Currently 5,173 signatures

At 10,000 signatures, government will respond to this petition

At 100,000 signatures, this petition will be considered for debate in Parliament

Reshared Daz.

Animae C (507)
Wednesday October 25, 2017, 5:21 pm

Birmingham, England - B33 8UQ

West Yorkshire, BD2 1PX

Darren Woolsey (218)
Thursday October 26, 2017, 1:06 am
Yesterday, Mum (84 years old. . . ) was kept waiting for 2 hours after dialysis in Bradford Royal Infirmary for a porter. As if that wasn't bad enough, OVERNIGHT (approx. 3am), she was moved Wards. . . so hasn't slept since. Tomorrow (discharge) couldn't come soon enough. . .

Animae C (507)
Thursday October 26, 2017, 3:59 am
Bloody disgraceful!!!!
Glad she'll be home & in your gentle care soon Darren!!

Love & Hugs to her from me.

fly b (26)
Thursday October 26, 2017, 9:11 pm
I hope mum is sleeping safe and sound.

May she be refreshed and rested.

Darren Woolsey (218)
Friday October 27, 2017, 11:30 am
One update in 3 sections:

Just got in to the hospital. They've now told me that Mum isn't being discharged today. Trying to find out what's going on.

Main reason they're apparently keeping her in at least overnight is that Mum's oxygen levels are low. They didn't think that being moved wards at 3am OR other disruptive patients were a contributory factor.

Spoken to a doctor. They are going to monitor her oxygen levels overnight (they are currently hovering around 79/80), so she is not "medically fit" to be discharged. They will monitor/observe over weekend and if levels improve, they will review with regard to discharge. They are going to speak with Renal/Transport team to make them aware. I've explained my concerns in terms of Ward movement in the middle of the night and having to endure other distressed patients.

Sheryl G (360)
Friday October 27, 2017, 1:12 pm
I'm sorry to read these updates concerning your Mother, but at 3am that is no time to be moving anyone let alone someone your Mother's age and in her health condition.

Animae C (507)
Friday October 27, 2017, 7:30 pm
Damn idiots!!!

Darren you can get oxygen for her at home, i got it for my grandfather, his doctor said he didn't need it but i got it anyway & it made his life so much easier!!!


Lucy S (46)
Friday October 27, 2017, 9:28 pm
Noted. and I will share!

fly b (26)
Friday October 27, 2017, 10:44 pm
Sorry to hear the latest, Darren.

I hope Mum's oxygen levels improved overnight and resume at healthy levels so she can go home, if that I what she needs.
Rest and quiet is so important. And being home.

Animae's comment about getting oxygen for Mum sounds a good idea, to have on hand, or use as directed.
I hope Mum will be well enough to leave hospital and get home, without any unnecessary delay or issues, Darrren. Home, with you by her side, she surely will feel so much more at ease and comfortable.
I hope you both have a good night.


Danuta W (1251)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 3:52 am

Darren Woolsey (218)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 10:55 am
Today, Mum has been stable, and has also eaten some more Pork Dripping sandwiches, as well as a Strawberry Activa (healthy bio version of Yoghurt).

Her oxygen levels have been good, so fingers crossed, she will be out early next week.

Iona Kentwell (129)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 4:06 pm
We've added your signature to the petition:
Pay carers an allowance equivalent to a fulltime job at the National Living Wage
Thanks for your help Wendy!

Trish K (29)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 4:16 pm
Hope all is well with the two of you and you are both resting and eating properly. Forwarded to UK friends.

Sheryl G (360)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 4:25 pm
Thanks for the update Darren and glad to read she is making improvement.

Christine Stewart (134)
Saturday October 28, 2017, 7:34 pm
thanks for sharing

Darren Woolsey (218)
Sunday October 29, 2017, 1:54 am
Just phoned Mum. Latest news is that she is going to be transferred to St.Lukes for dialysis tomorrow then discharged home afterwards. Doctors are apparently happy with her oxygen levels. Mum has asked me to confirm with THEM that is the case just in case she's misheard anything!

Sheryl G (360)
Sunday October 29, 2017, 5:40 am
That is good news and I hope the confirmation stands true.

Darren Woolsey (218)
Monday October 30, 2017, 2:42 am
The plan is unfortunately changing, daily.

Now, they're monitoring Mum's oxygen levels. . . until they're stable in the high 90s, they cannot comfortably discharge her, so they're taking readings every few hours. . .

Sheryl G (360)
Monday October 30, 2017, 8:10 am
Good luck, I know someone mentioned oxygen to go home, is that being discussed?

fly b (26)
Monday October 30, 2017, 12:07 pm
thank you for sharing news, Darren.

Rooting for Mum! Hope you are both getting all the rest and good nutrition you need, and Mum is on the mend, soon ready to go home!
Have a good week, Darren, and Mum!

Darren Woolsey (218)
Tuesday October 31, 2017, 2:07 am
I'm going to mention that to the nurses and doctors today, Dandelion, if it's possible to have some kind of set-up within the NHS, as otherwise, as per usual, this might prove expensive. . . but obviously whatever benefits Mum is of paramount importance.

. (0)
Tuesday October 31, 2017, 2:16 am
Carers Allowance or ICA is a benefit paid to Care’s who spend 35 hours for another person/person’s who receives, PIP, DLA at Middle to Hight Rate and Constant Attendance Allowance,
The any person on Care’s Allowance or ICA receives £42.00pw plus a Premium, irrespective how many disabled people the Care’s looks after he/she will only receive the set amount as stated. However, the Care’s may do work and receive a wage of upto £99.99p without it effecting his or her Care Allowance.
So anyone on Care’s Allowance or ICA may work and receive a wage without his or her wage effecting his or her Allowance, so good, but not so good as you may think.
A person receiving Care Allowance must spend 35 hours of care, this is almost the number of hours in a working week,
A person receiving Care Allowance may work and earn upto £99.99p without his or her earning effecting his or her Care Allowance of £42.00 pw plus Premium, not sure how much the Premium is but I believe to be around £34.00p.
We now must add together both the Care Allowance and Premium together and add the £99.99p which he or she may earn without it effecting his or her Care Allowance, this works out at £175.99p or there abouts,
Considering the hours, a person must put in to receive Care Allowance and hours he or she must put in to earn the extra of £99.99p, the Benefit Care Allowance or ICA is nothing put Slave Labour a clear breach of the Human Rights.
If this is not bad enough, the Disabled Person on PIP or DLA or Constant Attendance Allowance, receives an add Premium known as Severe Disabled Premium at a rate of £62.45, this Premium is considered when anyone receives Care Allowance or ICA for looking after the disabled person,
We must now take away the Severe Disabled Premium at a rate of £62.45 from the disabled person, and give the Severe Disabled Premium at a rate of £62.45 to the person he or she who Claimed Care Allowance or ICA, if not the rate of Care Allowance Rate would be £5.00p per week for 35 hours of care.
I always said many years ago in England, Care Allowance or ICA as it was known and maybe still known is the biggest con and the biggest flawed benefit within the benefit system.
I add also, if the Care Allowance is in payment and the person falls ill and claims ESA and receives ESA that person loses his or her Care Allowance even if that person is still caring for the Disabled person.
Darren, I have signed and fully support the petition and I would like to thank you in giving me the chance to explain the British Flawed Welfare Benefit System for Care Allowance or ICA,
Caring for a disabled person is work even-though we don't see it as work, looking after a loved one, or anyone else, and the National Living Wage must be in payment. if not then it could only be seen as abuse of the person human rights.

Sheryl G (360)
Tuesday October 31, 2017, 8:11 am
Where I lived I wasn't able to receive any compensation, but that is the USA so is even less fair over here unless one is financially well off and can hire help to care for one's parents. I had to sell my own home to live off of to care for my Mother. I could not have lived with myself if I hadn't done so but it means I've no equity today so I am living my days out in an apartment.

Darren Woolsey (218)
Tuesday October 31, 2017, 2:20 pm
I am literally selling CDs and vinyl LPs that I have over on Discogs to help my income, as the Carer's Allowance is simply not enough, and doesn't come close to a value statement as regards the amount of time, effort, blood, sweat and tears that go into caring for a loved on.

fly b (26)
Tuesday October 31, 2017, 9:55 pm
Darren, you and Mum are in my thoughts.

What you are doing is worthy and loving. Nothing can top that. Mum is blessed to have you, and for you to be there, is precious, beyond measure.

Animae C (507)
Wednesday November 1, 2017, 4:07 am
Wow that's a lot of music you're selling!!!

Animae C (507)
Wednesday November 1, 2017, 4:09 am
5,472 signatures

Darren Woolsey (218)
Wednesday November 1, 2017, 4:11 am
So, to just clarify a small point, I HAVE a FULL TIME JOB, it's called CARING for my mother. . . . and this job calls for caring OUTSIDE of the 9 to 5 frame of an ordinary PAID job. . . . I am up early in a morning, and don't go to bed till late at night, THEN I am ON CALL throughout the NIGHT.

. (0)
Wednesday November 1, 2017, 4:54 am
Darren, I have always said, the DWP abuses your love for your mother, as they would for anyone's mother, wife, daugter sisters and brother, and so on, the benefit is nothing but slave labour,
I will put another way, if you did not look after your mother she would have put in a home or care for by the state costing alot more than you receive in care allowance, almost 600 to 1000% more , for care by the state the state would have to pay well over £400.00p plus per week,
that £400.00p plus would be better in your hands for caring for your mother instead of the DWP taking your care allowance off your mother disbility benefit

Christina Klein (0)
Wednesday November 1, 2017, 5:04 am
Shared! Thanks!

Darren Woolsey (218)
Wednesday November 1, 2017, 4:07 pm
Yes, Ray, and based upon our experience of Care Home stories fed to us by the multiple patients and visitors we spoke to, I wouldn't dream of letting my dear Mum near a Care Home.

Sheryl G (360)
Thursday November 2, 2017, 2:54 am
Same here Darren, during Hurricane Harvey I posted a story about Elders not being evacuated before the flood and posted a picture of them sitting in their wheelchairs in water almost up to their necks. Not Nursing Home fault that time, the local govt. for failing to let the Nursing Home know that they were going to release water from a dam into the community. The results were the same however, no one thought of the Elders.

Here in Florida, the blame went between the local govt, State govt., and Nursing Home, but again results still allowed for 10 Elders to die from being in a sweatbox when the power went out for days from Irma a hurricane we had. 8 Elders dying inside before rescue and 2 more shortly thereafter. Trump will never tell me that Puerto Rico didn't have at least that many who died on that Island, he assurances of all doing well fall short. My goodness they just moved the ship Comfort into port after a month and a half.

Allen O (200)
Thursday November 2, 2017, 6:28 pm
Thanks Darren and Wendy for the Post Code - Signed and noted

Tj H (14)
Tuesday December 12, 2017, 5:47 am
hello Añimae, sorry for my absence - care 2 issues

Animae C (507)
Tuesday December 12, 2017, 5:56 am
Good to see you back Tj!!

Howard Crosse (21)
Monday December 25, 2017, 6:05 am
Happy to support this. I'm a full-time carer for my wife so fully appreciate the need for more support.

Tj H (14)
Thursday January 4, 2018, 9:25 am
just resigned using other email .... shared on Facebook back in DEC, doesn't appear to have had much impact ... will try again

fly b (26)
Thursday March 1, 2018, 2:43 pm
11,535 signatures

Government responded

We value the support carers give to help disabled people live more independently. Carer’s Allowance provides some recognition for caring, it’s not a carer’s wage. By 2022/23 annual spend will be £4bn.

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The Government recognises the invaluable contribution that unpaid and family carers make in all our communities, and is committed to doing more to support them. The support we need to provide extends far beyond financial support however. The Department of Health plans to publish a Carers Action Plan this spring setting out plans around support for carers.

Formal carers, i.e. those who are employed as “professional” carers, do of course need to receive all the protections that employment law offers, including receiving at least the National Living Wage/National Minimum Wage from their employers.

Informal carers are those who provide care for family or friends and they do receive help through the benefit system, primarily through Carer’s Allowance (CA) (which was introduced in 1976) and for those on lower incomes, through means-tested benefits. For people who give up the opportunity of full-time employment in order to provide regular and substantial care for a severely disabled person, CA aims to provide a measure of financial support and recognition, but it is not designed to be a carer’s wage or to replace all lost earnings.

A carer may apply for CA if they provide care for 35 hours or more a week to a person on one of the qualifying disability benefits. They must be aged 16 years or over and not be in full time education (21 hours or more a week). For those carers who can undertake some part-time work, there is an earnings limit in Carer’s Allowance. CA can be received alongside part-time earnings of up to £116 net of certain expenses a week (rising to £120 net a week from April 2018). Allowable expenses include income tax, National Insurance contributions and half of any contributions to an occupational or personal pension. Also, up to half the net earnings figure calculated can be allowed towards the cost of alternative care for the disabled person, or for a child aged under 16, while the carer is at work. These rules mean that people can earn significantly more than the earnings limit and still get CA. Where possible, informal carers are encouraged to continue either working or studying part-time alongside their caring responsibilities in order to improve their own life chances and increase their social interaction.

CA is funded from general taxation and does not depend on an individual's National Insurance contributions. CA is up-rated in line with the Consumer Price Index and since 2010 the rate has increased from £53.90 to £62.70 (rising again to £64.60 a week in April). That means that from April 2018, carers will be £550 a year better off than they were in 2010. By 2022/23 we will be spending nearly £4 billion a year on CA. This is a clear indication of the Government’s commitment to carers.

Carers who are on low incomes can also claim income-related benefits, such as Income Support and Pension Credit. These benefits can be paid to carers at a higher rate than those without caring responsibilities through the carer premium or the equivalent additional amount for carers respectively, both currently worth up to £34.95 a week (increasing to £36.00 a week in April). Receipt of means tested benefits can act as a “passport” to help with prescriptions and dental charges.

People who are not eligible for Carer’s Allowance but who are looking after sick or elderly family or friends may be eligible for Carers Credit which helps them build qualifying years for State Pension. To qualify for carer’s credit a person must be caring for one, (or more), person for at least 20 hours a week, be over 16 years old but under State Pension age. The person being cared for must get one of the following:
• A qualifying benefit, or
• Be certified by a health or social care professional as needing the amount of care being provided

The Government’s Fuller Working Lives Strategy sets out what the Government is doing to support those carers who wish to remain in and return to work; as well as highlighting the sort of support that good employers should give to carers in their workforce, such as flexible working. To spearhead some of this work the Government appointed the Business in the Community (BiTC) Age at Work leadership team as Business Champion for Older Workers. The Leadership Team spearhead the Government’s work to support employers to retain, retrain and recruit older workers. They actively promote the benefits of both employing and retaining older workers to employers across England – influencing them both strategically and in terms of practical advice. This work also benefits carers in the workplace.

Department for Work and Pensions

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Created by
Matthew David Harris

4 April 2018
All petitions run for 6 months

fly b (26)
Thursday March 1, 2018, 2:48 pm
How is your Mum, Darren? I hope she is doing well! Best wishes to you, both.

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