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Discuss: DEATH SQUADS operate within US Army to silence opposition June 10, 2009 12:22 PM

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(3 comments) — After looking at the evidence surrounding the Pat Tillman coverup, I have come to this certain conclusion: that DEATH SQUADS ARE OPERATING WITHIN THE UNITED STATES ARMY; USED AGAINST MEMBERS OF THE U.S. MILITARY ITSELF.
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Stop, Look Around, Everybody Look What's Goin' Down June 10, 2009 12:25 PM

After looking at the evidence surrounding the Pat Tillman coverup, I have come to this certain conclusion: that DEATH SQUADS ARE OPERATING WITHIN THE UNITED STATES ARMY; USED AGAINST MEMBERS OF THE U.S. MILITARY ITSELF.

I am tired of endless crappola debates among the politically inclined, on whether President Obama is a "Good Guy or a Bad Guy".  Such discussions are a total waste of time, utterly pointless, change nothing. Obama really has VERY LIMITED power. This doesn't make him, in my view, a "hand-picked tool of Wall Street". {Wall Street had hand-picked Ms. Clinton for that role. Obama rode a genuine populist surge that surprised everyone!} Obama, with his LIMITED power, is like a "manager", trying to keep everyone happy if possible. Like a guy negotiating between Capital, the Bosses, and Labor, the Unions. In a situation where the Bosses basically hold ALL the cards! Trying to win for the "Unions" {to continue that metaphor} what concessions he can!

Who is really in power? CHENEY and his gang! and he is going around FLAUNTING that power! Bush was of course never in power, never had any power at all, was just a figurehead. But Obama is in a very tricky position. He is in NO SENSE in a position to make a "revolution" or a "coup"! And, in what I think Obama is trying to do, he may very well fail! The powers against him may be too great......

We are not REALLY a "Democracy"; not any more; we are an OLIGARCHY, rule by the few, with Democratic outside wrappings! We really ought to recognize this...... This is totally different from the Roosevelt era, when the President actually DID have some power. With the Kennedy assassination, essentially a coup was effected..... that has remained in power EVER SINCE. I am not going in for the Illuminati, the Elders of Zion, the Freemasons, the Knights Templar, aliens from outer space, "the Bilderberg group", or any of that stuff! However, we DO have a shadow government behind the facade of "democratic institutions". Calling it "Bilderberg" or anything else, does NOTHING to help understand it, or feel you have some kind of "control" just by NAMING it! {A well-known form of MAGIC, nothing more!} Besides, I think that the Oligarchy changes constantly, has internal power struggles we know nothing about, etc. It isn't just one specifically identified group of people you can point to and name! A whole lot is VERY undercover..... the main characteristic of this group, as in ALL such various dominant groups thruout Human History, is its willingness to use total brutal force, to succeed........ call it Social Darwinism if you will.

Obama of COURSE, KNOWS all this. He KNOWS who was really responsible for 9/11, for the Kennedy assassination, for the CIA-sponsored coup in Indonesia. If WE can know, OBAMA knows. He may be trying to do what "good", what large or small reforms, he can, under these deplorable circumstances..... and, he could fail.

McChrystal {sp.?} is a case in point. His being put in charge in Afghanistan. He has been associated with Black Ops. {That is where the REAL power base lies, in the secret Black Ops, NOT in such an open, and juvenilely ridiculous, place like Bohemian Grove!!!!!!!} He has also been associated with the cover-up on Pat Tillman's death. The reports on Pat Tillman lead me to believe, that DEATH SQUADS are operating WITHIN THE AMERICAN ARMY. Pat Tillman, a very high-profile person, was starting to question the rationale of the Iraq war; WHY WERE ALL HIS JOURNALS BURNED AT THE SAME TIME THEY BURNED HIS CLOTHES??? And, a LOT OF OTHER "SUICIDES" and "Friendly Fire" incidents, are being questioned ALSO. DEATH SQUADS OPERATING IN THE U.S. ARMY, JUST AS IN LATIN AMERICA and Palestine, etc....... The purpose of this, is to "nip in the bud" ANY Army Resistance, like that which stopped the Viet Nam war...... The hopelessness of forming any similar Resistance in this case, has led to the REAL suicides of soldiers {not faked}, who see NO solidarity and NO other way out........

So, the way I see it, Obama was FORCED to choose McChrystal...... he has very little room to operate, Obama, maybe he has even less room than he thot he would have when he was running for office..... tho on the other hand, Obama was certainly not blind to it, either. And, however much we demonstrate, communicate, express outrage and Public Opinion, it will have VERY LITTLE EFFECT ON THE REAL POWER, ON THE OLIGARCHY........ The after-Kennedy Oligarchy has found, much to the surprise of some of its more hidebound members, that it can absorb Social Change and still remain in power; it can absorb long hair on guys, tie-dyed T-shirts, rock music, Civil Rights for Blacks, and for Women, and for Gays, and still remain in power as its basic self, power that is BASED ON VIOLENCE AND THE WILLINGNESS TO USE FORCE, openly or covertly......

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From The Peace Team website June 10, 2009 2:53 PM

'Remember when former Vice President used to claim that he constituted a peculiar fourth branch of government unto himself, claiming executive privilege as part of the executive branch, while with the next breath refusing to obey executive branch record keeping laws? Now we beginning to find out what that fourth branch of government actually was . . . his own private worldwide assassination ring. Somehow we don't recall the U.S. Constitution providing for such a fourth co-equal branch of our government.

Even those who argue that the president has the power as "commander in chief" to commit war crimes with impunity, do not argue that the Vice President should be able to operate his own war crimes franchise independent of the president. And yet,
according to Seymour Hersh, a most reliable source, that is exactly what took place. Cheney was running his own personal assassination squad, reporting directly to himself.

Is there no level of treason outrageous enough to get one of the other two branches of government to confront these crimes against the Constitution? The justice department must immediately appoint a special prosecutor. Failing that, Congress must launch its own investigation,
as called for by the always heroic Dennis Kucinich, to get to the bottom of this. Please submit this action page to speak out to them all.'

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These references can be looked up and verified; they are given here so you can start doing your own research. You think my thesis, my reasoned conclusion of "Death Squads used against our own troops who dissent", sounds extreme? "Impossible"? It probably is not going far enough.....

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Politics sux. Armed Conflict sux. Economic Oppression sux. June 10, 2009 4:09 PM

Dick Cheney, and his friends and allies {he's not alone, of course!}, are STILL in Power. It is obvious. If they WEREN'T in Power, they'd be in jail NOW. Being in Power, will keep them out of jail FOREVER. The election of another President, doesn't change a thing in that respect. {Maybe, just maybe, it makes it a bit harder for them to put their Lies across. But, being in POWER, you get to IGNORE the Truth all you want to!}
This is NOT to say, that "Obama is one of them" or "Obama is just like them". Obama is not Lenin, Stalin, Fidel Castro or Ho Chih Minh. He's not Ivan the Terrible or Vlad the Impaler. If you want to talk about POWER.....!!! Unlike the above-mentioned, Obama has, as I've been trying to say, LIMITED POWER. VERY limited, it seems!
Obama is articulate, educated, verbal, a good negotiator. If ANYbody can, Obama can at best wrest some concessions, a few or many, from the people that really DO have the power!

What about "people power"? All of us together, united? Well, what we CAN do, is bring about SOCIAL CHANGE. From differences in tattoos, skirt lengths and hairstyles; Music and Art and Literature; to differences in the ways in which gays, immigrants, the handicapped, the elderly, and other formerly-marginalized groups are treated. That is not "nothing"; not valueless! As in that well-known story about the Starfish-thrower: it makes a DIFFERENCE to THOSE people, just as the Civil Rights Movement continues to make a difference to ethnic groups, gender groups, etc.

As Mao Tse-Tung famously said, "Power grows out of the barrel of a gun." Sad but true. Obama is NOT the head of a Revolutionary Movement to overthrow by armed force, the Power of the Oligarchy! At best, he represents positive, progressive Social Change. I think we all, underneath, know and feel that.
But, as for A REAL CHANGE IN POWER, THE POWER TO MAKE WAR AND PEACE, THE POWER TO KILL, THE POWER TO CONTROL {BY FORCE} BASIC RESOURCES AND THE ECONOMY....
Sorry, Obama or ANYone not in the Inner Circle of the Oligarchy, the Military-Industrial Complex, the Black Ops...... is out of their depth. ANYone.
Cheney and his pals, have the WORLD in their back pocket -- and Obama CAN'T DO A THING ABOUT IT. This will ALSO explain, why the Democrats, even when they have a clear Majority, look "timid" and "spineless". There is ONLY SO MUCH THEY CAN DO. Before running spang up against that Stone Wall of Oligarchical Power. How embarassing it must be!
What to do? That old Marxist model of "Workers' Revolution", at least in the U.S. comes up against too great risk; too great firepower concentrated in the hands of the State {carrying out the behests of the Oligarchy. The Oligarchy has the power to make its soldiers and police, obey it. If they did NOT obey, the Oligarchy's powers would be GONE! and so they have the Death Squads.......!}.
As far as grabbing your rifle or AK-47 and heading for the hills..... that would result in a RIGHT-WING coup that would be even WORSE....
So, I have no answers and do not know what to do. The situation from here, looks hopeless. We can change SOME things, Obama can change SOME things, we can change SOME things with or without his help. But, NOT THE BASIC POWER RELATIONSHIPS; AND THE BASIC ECONOMIC RELATIONSHIPS. This is really BAD NEWS for the Environment and the Earth. But, I gotta be honest wid'ya!

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If Americans did not OBEY the Cheney-types and their ilk; if Americans practiced Civil Disobedience on a MASSIVE scale; if all torturers, for example, REFUSED TO TORTURE, point blank; if the Army and Police pointed their weapons in the other direction, AWAY from the harmless Citizens and TOWARDS the representatives of the Oligarchs; well, that would make it pretty hard for them to continue, wouldn't it? This HAS actually happened in History before, as during the Russian Revolution; it has happened in America, also, during the Viet Nam War. When Americans en masse, refused to buy huge gas-guzzzling cars foisted on them by GM, nobody could force them to buy: and that section of the wealthy oligarchs went under {but not until they had feathered their nests nicely with what they could grab, leaving nothing of course for the workers!}.

Between the Oligarchy's control of hi-tech armed force and surveillence, control of propaganda, and their sheer grim ruthlessness it took to off a National Hero like Pat Tillman: I just don't see such a thing happening here & now. Such a thing as a large, effective movement of Civil Disobedience.

I wish I were wrong. I keep scanning the horizon for hopeful signs! Let me know if there are any.......!

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