Hi all,
My wife and I are very engaged with animal welfare, and what is really going on on this world.
Reading all the things that happen behind closed doors, are frustrating us, and make us want to know more of it.
Things like 9/11, the Iraque, and Afganistan war, and all the tricks that are used, to make us believe this world needs one global government to help us out of this.
It's about time that people wake up, and go for it.
Now all that happens in this world is about money, and power.
Making people ill, and let them die of cancer, aids, and feeding the people bad food, water with chemicals, medicine that makes you even more ill, even chipping people (RFID), etc.
The rich are getting richer, the poor are getting poorer.
The slaves of the rich, and powerful are sent to warfare, and we all are being tricked, just to reduce the number of people on this earth, so that governments, and royal families can rule their slaves.
The wars, and the bloodshed needs to be ended now.
Please stand-up, and fight the regimes, that send our children to fight the unlucky, and innocent people, just for their power, and to make them even richer.

Evert Jan

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Thank you BMutiny for the invite.  This issue not only effects the American troops, but Canadians, and, the world.  So, very happy to join, indeed. 

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Welcome, all you new members, almost too many to count!

So, I won't try to name you all, please forgive me!

But, we had one "new member" the others wouldn't feel comfortable with.

He stated he was a Marine, which is fine; then he said that "with all our protests and rallies we were doing harm to the country."

I politely NM'd him that he had mis-understood the reason for the group; and deleted and blocked him. We have TOO MUCH WORK to do; and NO TIME for what wouldn've been endless, pointless, "discussions". If he wasn't some sort of a "plant" by the Bushies. He had NO friends and had JUST joined Care2! USUALLY THE SURE SIGN OF A PLANT. In NO other groups, either.

If anyone becomes aware of such a thing happening again, and I'm not right there, feel perfectly free to NM me about anyone suspicious!

Be AWARE that there have been MANY "plants" in groups I have been in. Their PURPOSE is to DISTRACT us from what we are doing! To cause fights, if they can; to make a group an ugly and uncomfortable place to be in and talk in, rather than a safe one.

THESE GUYS ARE PAID BY THE BUSHIES, THAT'S RIGHT, PAID BY THEM for what they do. It is their JOB. {They are recruited thru right-wing organizations and websites, which we have seen; thru churches.......}

This is NOT, you will understand, a question of "Freedom of Speech and opinion". There IS a VARIETY of opinion within this group; but, NOT that peace-lovers are HARMFUL. As I said, I and others have LOTS OF EXPERIENCE that these are people deliberately inserted into Liberal groups by the Far Right, in order to BREAK US APART. I have seen this happen in other groups.

I know this "person" was NOT RECRUITED BY ANY OF YOU!!!

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ah, add afganistan to that unless peace keeping, we're both there with NATO, they are asking for more AID, NOT MILITARY, and Harper it really pushing for these, we are also in Hati for decades which I don't think many Canadians know, or the $ poured in to set up governments NATO wants. If Harper get's in again, he will back Bush, and anyone promoting war disgusies as peacekeeping when in fact it is not. there are stats posted on by group by Craig a member here.

Also there are some very good video's, movies on this and other related that show the planning for years, the relations, relatives, links, I haven't checked if there is a thread fo rthat yet, I watched a really good one a few nights back.

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I joined  abit back, no intro, I join in solidarity as a Human Being and a Canadian who would like to see our troops/country related issues allowed here as well as supporting the troops to get out of Iraq and those speaking out. The Liberals got their foot in the door (more with UN), and Harper bushite (less with UN) is backing bush on almost everything (bilderberger)

I feel it is important to realized that this isn't just a USA issue, it affects us all worldwide, especially with NATO and the SPP, and espeically those in the countries being adversly affected.

I am not here to debate but as far as I know Harper can not be impeaced, it is called a vote of non-conficence here, or high crimes against the Queen (monarchies) someone mentioned, who has increasingly little to do with our country, and I hope less so as time goes progresses.

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Ann, Jacqueline, Carla, Michael, Carole!

Welcome to the FIGHT!

We have a new thread for those who have undergone personal losses BECAUSE OF BUSHCO'S LIES. We are not going to TAKE THIS SITTING DOWN!

We focus on the TROOPS; and, also, on Iraqi citizens who we must never forget, have SUFFERED DEVASTATING LOSSES in their families and communities as well.

We have the POWER to turn Grief, into SPIRITUAL RENEWAL.

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Thanks for inviting me, B.

I'm looking forward to the insight I'm sure this group will provide!

*C*

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I look across these messages and this group, and I am deeply heartened.

Since I was imprisoned for refusing anything to do with Viet Nam, or attacking others, I found that almost all the people who returned from there became disillusioned in the literal sense.

Most did not speak in any public way, yet most perhaps later became the "my country right or wrong" slavish followers - numerous psych experiments show that people will choose what they obviously know is wrong, if the general consensus claims the wrong answer as the correct one.

To overcome this weakness of humans is the greatest challenge, yet,  those who enter this place have done so, so it is possible!

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Thanks for the invite Barbara.  I always enjoy being in any of the groups you are in.  Keep up the good fight.  I can't tell you how much I admire you.

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Thanx for the invite BMutiny - I am very interested in this topic and feel great compassion for the soldiers and their families in fact all of America that you should be subjected to the dictates of an obviously unbalanced man and an even greater liar - I have no time for liars - they undermine the intelligence of others!!

I agree if the Military took matters into their own hands and just came on home - where would Bush and his little entourage be without them?????????

Whatever I can do - I will do.

Love & Light

J

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Welcome, Mata! and Corinne, I know you're out there somewhere! and all the other new people that choose not to post on this thread! Welcome to all!

According to another thread, the one on the Veterans' threatened Dishonorable Discharge, the troops were being told "they were going to be re-building schools and mosques in Iraq". That is what the people back home were being told, too! Unfortunately, there are never pictures of such activities! On YouTube, there was a video of troops destroying a mosque! Gee, all its congregation will love us for that! Solution: but of course, shut down troops' access to YouTube! PR problem solved!!!

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Thanks for the invite B. I like your style! I also love your concern for our children, and the children and innocents that our US kids have been given license to kill.                       

I was so proud of my nephew for making HIS boots walk out of Iraq after the liars reneged on their promise to him after his first tour of duty. He told his mother that it was stupid! And, that the people in Baghdad were just regular people like the people at home.

When the politicians say that the world hates Americans, it's a big lie for them to convince us of the justification to blow whole countries away...pretending that it's for the sake of freedom.

I'm so glad that my nephew saw through the $hit $torm that was created by a few chicken hawks who never had the courage to put their own greedy lives on the line. The a'bomb'inations to humanity and justice will get their just rewards...all in good time.

Unfortunately, there is another young man who is only related through marriage, his mother to my brother, who is a real GI Joe. His fiery personality bought the neo-con propaganda...hook, line & sinker. I can't believe how some soldiers are completely blinded to how inhumane this war in Iraq really is...it's frightening actually, how humans can feel proud of the most disgusting action committed!  

Love & Peace

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Welcome Jessie, Erin, Teresa, and Kerry!

I have the feeling we haven't heard the last of Cindy Sheehan. She made as powerful a statement LEAVING the Peace Movement, and LEAVING the Democratic Party, as she did when joining the Peace Movement. There is NO DOUBT that the Democrats have BETRAYED HER, and us ALL, and the Country, by CONTINUING THE ILLEGAL, IMMORAL IRAQ OCCUPATION.

Cindy REFUSES to act as if that is not the case!

We honor Cindy Sheehan in this group; and we try to continue her brave work; by TELLING THE TRUTH; and by KEEPING OUR FOCUS ON THE TROOPS, AND WHATEVER IT TAKES to bring them home. Even if it sounds "too radical and unheard-of"!

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Thanks for the invite BMutiny!  I'm very much for bringing the troops home!  Yesterday!  War Crimes Tribunals for the whole lot of them in Washington for THEIR treason!  Wipe the slate clean & bring back the Constitution!  BY the people, FOR the people & OF the people! Watada spoke at our Annual Peace March this year!  What an honor!  He had a lot of really good things to say.  He is a very positive & sincere man.  Would love to meet Cindy & give her a hug.  My partner was a Marine, very proud, but very sickened by what is happening.  He knows the danger they are in if they speak out or try to go against the machine.  We do have troops that have been killed by their fellow soldiers for speaking out, not staying in line.  The danger is very real for all of us, especially them!  I cry every day & have had to boycott the TV news.  These are our children that are being taken advantage of at a very vulnerable age.  They've been sent to chase demons that don't exist and too many have died over lies.  My heart goes out to them & their families! 

I've gone way beyond "Outraged & paying attention"!  Glad to be part of this group!  I hope we can all make a difference together!

Peace Light & Love,    Kerry

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BMutiny T.
 

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Enough is Enough!  I've had it! 

Thanks for the invite. 

 The photo is from the Arlington Westmemorial.

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Heartily welcome, Marie!

The thin orange writing I think comes along with the "yellow ribbon" background theme.

The "yellow ribbon" is a symbol of Bringing The Troops Home: there are songs where "Tying a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree" and "In her hair she wore a yellow ribbon" symbolize waiting for a loved one to come home from war.

I will have to talk to Care2 to try to change that; or change the theme!

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Eyes Wide Open, the American Friends Service Committee’s widely-acclaimed exhibition on the human cost of the Iraq War, features a pair of boots honoring each U.S. military casualty, a field of shoes and a Wall of Remembrance to memorialize the Iraqis killed in the conflict, and a multimedia display exploring the history, cost and consequences of the war.

Since 1917, the American Friends Service Committee has championed the dignity and worth of every individual, the sanctity of human life and humanity's collective responsibility to promote peace. For almost 90 years of work in war zones on four continents, we have gained an intimate knowledge of the costs and horrors of war.

When this exhibit was unveiled by our Chicago office in January 2004, there were 504 pairs of boots symbolizing the lost lives of U.S. soldiers in Iraq. With each passing week, each stop in a new city, more pairs of boots are added to represent the newly fallen. Alongside the boots stands a wall of remembrance with the names of the more than 11,000 Iraqi civilians who have been killed since the U.S.-led invasion.

As the exhibit makes its appearances across the country, families and friends come to grieve for lost loved ones and strangers honor those who gave their lives to a cause far from home.

At each stop, person after person leaves notes of commemoration, photographs of lost soldiers, identification tags, flowers, and American flags to accompany the boots on their journey.

Although a majority of Americans now believe this war is a tragic misadventure, the human cost of the Iraq War grows every day. How many more boots will be standing at silent attention before this war ends, before Iraqis and American soldiers are out of harm's way?

This traveling exhibit is a memorial to those who have fallen and a witness to our belief that no war can justify its human cost.

Mary Ellen McNish,
General Secretary, AFSC

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Or this?

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