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5 years ago
At age 76 when you most need it, you are not eligible for cancer treatment
What Nancy Pelosi didn't want us to know untilafter the healthcare bill was passed...
Remember she said, "pass it and then read it!!."
Well, here IT is!
Obama Care Highlighted by Page Number
Judge Kithil of Marble Falls, TX - highlighted the most egregious pages of HB3200

Please read this........ especially the reference to pages 58 & 59

** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally

** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts. 

** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the 
Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN). 

** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?) 

** Page 241 and 253: Doctors will all be paid the same regardless of specialty, and the government will set all doctors' fees. 

** Page 272. section 1145: Cancer hospital will ration careaccording to the patient's age.

** Page 317 and 321: The government will impose a prohibition on hospital expansion; however, communities may petition for an exception. 

** Page 425, line 4-12: The government mandates advance-care planning consultations.. Those on Social Security will be required to attend an "end-of-life planning" seminar every five years. (Death counseling..) 

** Page 429, line 13-25: The government will specify which doctors can write an end-of-life order.
Judge Kithil then goes on to identify: 
"Finally, it is specifically stated that this bill will not apply to members of Congress. Members of Congress are already exempt from the Social Security system, and have a well-funded private plan that covers their retirement needs. If they were on our Social Security plan, I believe they would find a very quick 'fix' to make the plan financially sound for their future." 

Honorable David Kithil of Marble Falls , Texas 
ANY & ALLof the above should give you the ammo you need to support your opposition to Obamacare.
Please send this information on to all of your email contacts.


5 years ago

Ivonne, this makes me happy that I have lived my life, sad for the younger generation. This sounds so wrong, but what the heck nothing sounds right these days.

5 years ago

This is worse than Cuba,believe I am from there an know first hand what a socialist-marxist regime is like.

5 years ago

I posted this yesterday, but it didn't take, so trying again.

Ivonne, this article is incorrect.  This is no reflection on you personally.  I've brought up this same argumet several times in FSM as folks posted this.  The ONLY reason I bring this up each time I see it, is because it discredits you and those of us against the socialized medicine.  When it's brought up that any of the points are wrong, then none of it is believed.  That's why I firmly believe this was created by a liberal for the sole purpose of making the rest of us sound paranoid over something that isn't true.


Starting at the bottom, Congress does indeed pay into the social security fund.

Q5:  Is it true that members of Congress do not have to pay into Social Security?
A:  No, it is not true. All members of Congress, the President and Vice President, Federal judges, and most political appointees, were covered under the Social Security program starting in January 1984. They pay into the system just like everyone else. Thus all members of Congress, no matter how long they have been in office, have been paying into the Social Security system since January 1984. (see the web site for the rest of the article).


Govt employees will still have the option of choosing obamacare or what they have today, SUPPOSEDLY, just like the rest of us.  What the article fails to point out is that most employers will stop providing a choice because it will be cheaper to pay the fine than it will to provide us the choice.  It's a way to legally force American workers into the govt plan.  If a business did something like this, the govt would sue them for monopolizing the industry.  The govt will simply get away with it and of course will not vote themselves into only one choice.  WE must demand that as govt employees, they don't have a choice beyond govt healthcare.

The end of life planning seminar rule was removed in the final passed version.  The subsidising of unions and ACORN is not in there.  The electronic funds transfer is for those who wish to pay their tax or premium through an automatic debit, just like you do now for other bills. 


I am completely, 100% against obamacare!  That monsterous bill with all it's confusing lawyerese language is filled with loopholes and regulations that will destroy our progress in the medical field.  There are many valid reasons to repeal the bill, the first being the massive cost to middle income families and the huge increase in taxes on everyone who pays taxes.  We must use these valid reasons to win arguments.  If we use the emails floating around, we will simply be proven our facts are incorrect and we lose those in the middle to people who can prove them wrong.


5 years ago

I believe it was Maui who asked for a link to the bill.  Here it is, the bill that was passed.


Let's take a look how it matches up:

** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally
Page 50 is section 1201/2705  if you got to PDF page 50, it correlates to page 31 section 1101.  Same with all the other pages, they don't line up with the email.

5 years ago

It's impossible to understand all of that hog wash!!! Urrgghhhhhhhhh...

5 years ago

Thanks Michael, I stand corrected!

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