I don't know why they are so big but the last two got knocked off when I added them!
They are still here...
"Former Silent Majority"
Former Silent Majority
"Fly Like an eagle
spreading your faith.
Demand justice and
freedom as you go."
They are Bob's pictures Carol. I can't see them now!!! Where the heck did they go????
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Yes..I like the Eagles..I like the upper one better than the lower one because the wing span is more definite on the upper one and the wings just look better I think on that one.
I like those Cam....I am wondering if there is any way she can shade a darker blue around the edges of the pictures so it lightens up or fades away as it comes in from the edges...do you know what I mean? Kind of like a border.
DO YOU LIKE THE EAGLES?????
if the words Faith, Justice and Freedom were written on the Bible in small letters staggered so they were not one right beneath the other
By that I meant
How do you like those two Carol????
Sure she can use the Eagle one Cam...LOL...I will give you permission.. Can we malke a couple pof them that we can alternate when we get tired of one of them!? Just to use for a change of course.
The one that I liked that has too orange of color for the wording....if the words Faith, Justice and Freedom were written on the Bible in small letters staggered so they were not one right beneath the other but in a real gold color rather than the orange color and the Former Silent Majority was written in the bottom right hand corner with the same dark blue coloring as the letters FSM in the upper left it would look better I think!
OK..The one with the Gold writing on it looks too orange to me..I like the 4th one down and the second one up from the bottom! I like the wording too as both the picture and the wording are short, simple and to the point! I think the 4th one down would also work with the wording of the 2nd one from the bottom...Standing together fro Faith, Justice and Freedom.
Can't move the eagle I'm afraid! Sorry, Leanna had to go and I got way laid by the tele ... I do like the bottom two as well.
Well, heading off to bed, I guess everyone else must be too, or gone missing.
Have a good night everybody!
Okay. Where is everybody else?
I LOVE those bottom two! Maybe the eagles head upper left corner of flag of bottom one?-just to see what it looks like. Course you know this is all fun for me, and I don't know what the rest of the hosts or anyone likes, but I like those bottom two.
Take another look Sherry and let us know what you think. Lee is here with me right now.
In this link you posted, if you go into it, it's the pic on top, w/the soldiers on the bottom right.
But the words would look good to with the eagles you liked. I thought there might be a way of putting an eagle faded into the flag, or an eagle's head in the upper left corner, of the flag w/the soldiers. Something like that.
Are you talking about the flag with the soldiers on the bottom Sherry?
You could just even put an eagles head in the upper left corner of the flag. The words on the flag would probably have to be
Standing In Solidarity
in order to fit on the stripes part
So I will look for a flag with an eagle on it and see what I can find.
Sorry- just got back from washing grandsons hair and getting his pj's on.
Well, I don't know if anyone else likes it, but I thought it might look good on the one with the soldiers with the flag, with maybe an eagle faded just a little coming down for a landing, wings spread, talons down, kinda faded into the flag, because of what it says, -standing in solidarity- or with the eagles, or with any one the others like.
I like that Sherry .... will send it on to Lee and ask her to add it .... to which one?
Or Standing In Solidarity
Faith, Justice, and Freedom
Heck if I know Sherry! LOL! Methinks I will let you gals pick the new dress for the site and just go along for the ride!
I think Maui just said she likes the first one.
I like the eagles.
Carol said she likes the gavel/Bible etc. one (but she has not seen the new presentation yet) and that one I will buy for the group if that is the decision.
Print can be changed ..... anything is possible except for me getting those pics downloaded with print on them so Michael is going to try and screen shot them.
THAT Taking A Stand is supposed to be more centered, brought back left, so it's centered over the word for, and so is the bottom line-brought back to the left a few spaces to be centered.
Gotta go fill bathtub for grandson. Grankids are staying the night tonight.
Former Silent Majority Taking A Stand
Faith, Justice, and Freedom - ???
I love that song! What about an eagle, one of those shown, or one coming down, faded in the background on the flag with the soldiers, with the above words?
I like the other words, but they just seem a little wordy all together. What do the other hosts think?
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If you like the Eagle avatar here is our group theme song ..... ONE OF MY FAVORITES I TELL YOU!!!!
She just posted two using a couple of Bob's pictures! I LOVE THEM!!!
I will purchase the bible one if we all agree on that one but if Bob gives us permission to use his it would cost us nothing.
Whatever the group decides I can send it to Jess to format for us.
ARRRRRGGGGGG ..... she is working on a few more so says for you folks to just refresh your browser to see what she has done.
Can buy that gavel one ..... so it would be larger and easier for her to manipulate the print on it if I did ......
Basic editor, advanced editor, women moving furniture all over the place ..... ITS ENOUGHT TO DRIVE A FELLOW MAD I TELL YA!!!! MAAAADDDDDD ......
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If you use the bottom one, I think the word Justice should either be a little more tilted up, on the right, so as to be centered and angled with the head, or put Justice on the handle. Faith -tilted up on the right, to be angled with the book.
What little hair I had on my head is now gone ..... here is a link to a couple of ideas you all promoted here and Linda's daughter took. Think is we cannot figure out HOW to save what she did and bring it here.
One idea is to print them off and then copy them back into the computer into JPG format but my scanner/printer is down because it is too dang COMPLICATED for me to figure out how to set it up again and Lee does not have one.
Take a look and see what you think. I will have to look about buying the second one as it is copyrighted and am looking into if that can be done and how much they want.
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I like that!
GOOD point Eli!!!
Reading through all the posts and how hard it is to define who we are sems to be a complex matter. What about what we r NOT. Non here support Obamanation. FSM and the anti Obamination...league
I like that gavel one with the gold but I thought you said this was #7 Cam...
I would like to see the gold on this one too with the words on the flag, Bible and the gavel...I think the gold softens the picture!
Can't see your post Cam!
You are right there Cam....I was thinking the same thing about "faith".....like I have faith in my favorite football team winning next week....LOL......and I have faith in you Cam for staying off of ladders!!! There you go.
BTW faith can mean anything to us right? To me, no matter where it sits is means faith in friends, family, country .....
OF FAITHFUL PATRIOTS
'With Your Help We Are The Future'
Okay so this is number seven .... the one you like Maui?
Isn't that number 7???? Have to check.
Cam..I would like to see those letters in gold too on #7...I think the gold color might give the picture and the words more depth and meaning....JMO...at least I would like to see it to clarify it in my mind....maybe it would not make any difference. The reason I thought putting the words short and simple was it does not specify anyone in particular but it points out the values of our country and what our forefathers intended it to be about! Does this make sense!?
I have always liked this one to begin...but I would definitely go with - Emerging Majority of Faithful Patriots...
I think Majority (by faith) is better than Minority
For some reason I can't reply to my C2 email...but I like Carol's idea!!!! I also like the one above too......with FSM in white!!! But I have always been fond of #7
For this one Carol has suggested
Justice (On the gavel)
Faith (On the Bible)
Freedom (on the flag)
So in the top left corner on the flag:
Okay so I have asked Jess to try the following with this one:
in big white Bold print on the stars
.... maybe in smaller print on the Stripes in the blue where you have FSM:
FOR FAITHFUL PATRIOTS
'With Your Help We Are The Future'
Yes, please don't let this divide any of us. Isn't that exactly what evil wants? I know it is. We have got to be stronger and not let that happen. These are perilous times, and the devil, or whatever evil entity someone might believe in, has been wreaking havoc throughout our world, and he, or it, is really digging in the screws a little harder with the reelection of his, that is in the WH. I could see where people wondered what was going on, by the wording, and some got defensive, but I haven't ever seen where any of our hosts have ever meant to exclude anyone. Everyone has always been welcome, without the vicious nasty name calling words directly at another member of course, and that is right, but I've seen them give someone doing that more chances than they ever, ever deserved, to stop it instead. They are sure not going to exclude the rest of the members then!
There is lot of stuff going on right now, and chaos reigns. People aren't thinking straight, and that's no matter how intelligent one is. Tensions are running high, in all of us. And people do say or word things that I know they don't mean that way. It's not like them. Anxiety, tension, fear is running rampant still, and we're all who are concerned for our country and our loved ones, looking for a little solace, somewhere, so things I think, get put or said in a way that someone doesn't mean. It's not what's in their heart, what they meant. We need to go on, come together, start over if that is the case, and not let this dark cloud threatening to envelope us, win. That's what the person in the WH and his ilk, and evil, however you may perceive it, or describe it, is wanting to see. To divide us, separate us, cause infighting and anger toward each other. He's been good at acheiving hatred shown from many of his followers towards us who are not, and causing division, so far. It won't stop. It will get worse. I'm not going to help him and who he serves, do it to us. And I hope noone else does either. Together, we are stronger than that. We've got to show that now, more than ever, and we will in future, or else we let the evil run carefree, and ultimately, win. So please, anyone, don't leave. We need unity, and we need to fight this battle together. It's not going to get better, even if it appears to for awhile, and gives that false illusion. There is strength in our unity, and our faith, no matter where you look to for it, faith in ourselves, faith in our being friends and a family here, except if one has faith in Satan of ever being anything but what he is, and doing what he can to divide, destroy, cause hurt, cause anger. He loses, no matter what trials we face, if we stick together. So, I hope noone goes.
Yes.....we all know now that all our members are welcome to keep posting here and adding new threads...we welcome you all.....and new members too!!!!!! I hope we are all on the same page here!!!!! Sandra and Linda.....please don't give up on us.....you know us well enough that we would never exclude anyone here......we have a big fight ahead of us.....our work is not done!!!! Especially while we watch America crumble under obama's administration.....we have to be here to pick up the pieces and win the Senate in 2014......by then, I think the liberals will be ashamed they are democrats and know that we have been right all along.....the koolaid well will soon run out......just watch!!!!
So stick with us everyone.....FSM offers something for everyone here.....and we are always open to new ideas......
Yep, I got all starry eyed over Christmas and totally fell down on my duties to proof read what Michael posts. I was just as responsible but we have moved on now.
Carol, I really have a hard time believing that Michael didn't know exactly what he initially said. He is not a dummy nor clueless. Far from it. The only change made after complaints was to make it inclusive to faith-based people---as long as they are conservative. Isn't that still excluding people?
Sandra...There have been many times when I was excited to get something written down but the communication between what my brain thought and my fingers typed it didn't come out right. As he said he didn't really check back over it to think beyond what exactly it was that he had written. You know Michael pretty well and he is not one who would exclude anyone who really wanted to join anything. I don't think he mentioned anything about people joining as long as they were only conservatives though....maybe I missed that part!? And no this would not exclude anyone. The reason he added the Christian and Conservative part is being this is Care2 a Liberal site many people who ARE Christian Conservatives sometimes just skip checking out a group. I know when I joined Care2 had I found a group that said this I would join it before any other one. That's just my opinion though.
Alice you like it also...
Sure Cam, Maui and Sherry if you think this is a good pic...
Sherry...you gets some rest.....take a hot toddy and get some sleep....
Going to go folks. This drippy stuff aint quit, and I'm starting to ache. Have a fun time figuring this out friends. But no arguing allowed now, ya heah?! LOL
~HUGS~ to all!
Cam, it has my vote of approval! ~ Alice
It's all good.
Do you want me to send that pic to Jess and ask him to put some print on it?
Emerging Majority of Faithful Patriots
With your help, we are the future
Ivonne, I like what you recommended to change in my phrase subtracting Conservatives and adding Patriots in its palace. Good show! ~Alice
PS the comma should be removed between HELP and WE
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Yes, it does not have change the name of the group, it can stay FSM underneath it can say what I suggested:
Emerging Majority of Faithful Patriots
With your help, we are the future
you can change colors and letters sizing as you please...
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or Let your voice be heard! (w/or without the !)
Former Silent Majority
For Faithful Patriots
Just trying to help-I'll be good now
Or Add your voice
Former Silent Majority
For Faithful Patriots
Or For Faithful Patriots. Former Silent Majority and elsewhere on it- For Faithful Patriots
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I like FSM and i like Ivonnes. Is there a way of shortening it,& having -suggestion- FSM, or Former Silent Majority, and on it somewhere just Faithful Patriots- ?
I don't want to change FSM.....it has too much history to it of how it all got started...and that's the site we are noted for on C2. The logo is fine to change though.....I like some of Jess's logos. Still number 7 is my favorite...just remove the faith based Christian part???
I LIKE that Yvonne ..... how about the rest of you?
EMERGING MAJORITY OF FAITHFUL PATRIOTS
With Your help We are the Future!
I think this cover everyone...what do you think?
of Faithful Conservatives
With Your Help We Are The Future ~ Alice
and don't forget to add PLUS ONE ATHEIST .....
Then there is Eli ......
I do think we are mostly Conservative thinking here. Even Libertarians are conservatives.
Yeah ..... better just to stay with FSM
Former Silent Majority.
So take a look at what Jess did and we will pick a few. I will ask him to change the printing to that and we will go from there.
That is why we post things here. For discussion and sharing.
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The group IS NOT CLOSED to anyone. The idea for the change in the avatar WAS MINE. I asked Jess to make some for us and they have been brought here for us to discuss.
Faith based Christians CAN be removed from the avatar. Its simple.
Michael worded it wrong. I am supposed to have his back and I did not catch it. So we are both to blame. He apologized. I am now apologizing ..... again.
There will be more Christian threads here. Expect it. I for one will not be addressing those threads for the most part though as an avid reader I do find some comfort at times in what is posted.
I will continue as before to address the political and fun threads I always enjoy here at FSM. That is all there is to it.
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Carol, I really have a hard time believing that Michael didn't know exactly what he initially said. He is not a dummy nor clueless. Far from it. The only change made after complaints was to make it inclusive to faith-based people---as long as they are conservative. Isn't that still excluding people? This happened for a short while just before the election, too, when the group was closed off unless by invite. The new title for the group is still telling non-conservatives to go away. Certainly discourages them from staying or joining. So this is what you think you are trying to say to non-conservative members..."take a vacation if they don't like, agree with or are able to take part in it..that's all"? No, more like go away, you're not welcome now because you're upsetting us.
"How about "Former Silent Majority for Faith based Christians!?" Sounds like we're taking a step back to the beginning of when this all started. I stand up against Christians being persecuted and criticised constantly. I'm far from anti-Christian. I say if the avatar is changed leave out the "for faith-based conservative" part and certainly not back to exclusively Christians.
Just a thought! Thank God this is supposed to be a temporary "glitch" in the daily workings of FSM.
With due respect to the members of this group, I am sorry to see this decision. I just don't support a decision to close a group or to ask people to unjoin if they don't meet certain criteria.
Linda..As Michael explained and re-explained no one is being asked to leave the group...we are just taking a breather from our regular routine is all. Everyone is welcome to stay or take a vacation if they don't like, agree with or are able to take part in it..that's all. I think if we want to talk about being a deverse set of people something like this would be a good way to show the diversity instead of expecting no change at all to ever come up!? Just a thought!
With due respect to the members of this group, I am sorry to see this decision. I just don't support a decision to close a group or to ask people to unjoin if they don't meet certain criteria. This signals to those with a differing opinion weakness of position rather than strength behind your convictions; when you take that stand, no matter what your intention, it signals the wrong message. When you have an open group with a code of conduct and advertise that you welcome people with all political views to join and then suddently make a decision that for a time (or forever makes no difference) those that are not conservative are to unjoin for a while; you have just nullified your credibility, especially within days of an election where your candidate lost the election. And when you use Christianity as well you are signaling the one thing that is so wrong for all Republicans; you are giving credibility to the fact that Republicans are all Christians which is not the case at all. I happen to be a believer, yes, but it has no bearing on my choice of Party. Religion and politics do not belong in the same conversation in a Country that believes in separation of church and state; I don't want the goverment dictating how I believe and it is wrong for my religious belief to dictate to all citizens how they are to believe when religious freedom is a guaranteed right under the Constitution.
I have thought on this for a few days and where I am not a frequent contirbutor to FSM, I do read the topic threads and your comments and have appreciated this, but at this time of your "breather" I thnk it best I take a breather from FSM, too. Like Sandra, losing the election is not new, how we handle this loss and what we do for the next election is what matters and I am not going to take a breather from that and I am not going to be defeated. I don't think any of you feel defeated either, at least I hope not.
Again, I am not going to unjoin as I am a Conservative and a Christian, but I do feel this is not the best approach and I think that it smacks at something I have seen in at least one other group; didn't like it there, either. We are mature adults, we can take whatever they have to dish out because we have the stength of our convictions; we have the confidence of our political position. Just asking that you all seriously consider the message this decision has sent out and whether that is what you really intended.
Thank you, Sherry. Without going into detail, I'm lucky to even be here. Surgery in the near future.
I'm glad this is just temporary, but I still very much disagree with the move occurring in the first place. We're strong & confident enough in our pov to handle it, aren't we? Do we need to tell some members to take a hike? We may have lost the election, but tomorrow's another day. I feel optimistic that if the Republican party gets it's act together (although sometimes I think that could be a big if), we will prevail. Personally, I do not need a breather.
Sandra, I don't know what is going on with your health, but I hope it turns around for you. Sorry to hear that, and hope you are better very soon. This isn't supposed to be permanent, and I understand everyone wanting to get away from all the vitriol, and take a breather and relax, though I hate to see certain people leave because of it too.
I thought the same thing as Alice. I don't know if non denominational is right or not, as it can mean different things to different people it seems, but should mean people of faith I think, with the same basic faith in God, or in principles of, not just one denomination church. What about something like For People of Faith? Well, maybe not exactly that, but working on something like that?
I am very Conservative, but I appreciate reading the views of those I don't agree with and as far as the avatar goes, I agree with Alice...not everyone is Christian here, although this country is Judeo-Christian at its core. I am taking my leave of the group for the time being because I don't agree with the group yet again being closed off to certain others. I miss the others who have been excluded. Obviously, not because I agree with them, but I appreciate all points of view given in a civil manner, not just those that mirror my own.
In Aug., my health took a turn for the worst which is why I hadn't posted for some time, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. It saddens me to take my, hopefully temporary, leave of my FSM friends. You are all wonderful people, but I do not agree with you on this.
Alice.....I agree....we are not the majority anymore.....hopefully after what happened this election with the blacks and Latino winning the election for obama....it tells the Republicans/Conservatives that there is work to be done before 2014......I am so ready for a 3rd party.....it's too bad that is so far away for us!!!!
You are right about the faith also.....we don't want to box ourselves in with just one faith....great points to consider.
Other thoughts here about Alice's views??
- Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
- Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.
Yep. You can't make out hardly the words that are in black on the bottom right.
Jess did a great job on all of them.
I think this one would look better Cam with the writing in small letters on top of the Bible in that little black spot so it's not covering anything like the back side of the Bible or the Constitution. Can't believe all the dang mistakes I have made tonight spelling!
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I wonder what the letters would look like in a bright gold!?!? What do ya think? I would like to see it like that once just to clear the picture of it in my mind...it might not look like what I think it would...but I thought it might make it look richer! More depth to it!?
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I see what you are saying on the cross Sherry....I just likes the other one because the flag for the country, the Bible for Christians and the gavel for the Justice System all seems to work together.
How about "Former Silent Majority for Faith based Christians!?" Not add 'the' into it!
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That's the one Ivy that I loved!!! it fits perfect with our country, belief in God and the Justice system we have.....or I might say the Justice system we have that is not working right now for the most part!!
Looks good with the white. Going to relax. Woke up yucky this morning, and heard lots of stuff is going around, drippy sinus to boot. Have a good night!
You know Cam....falling off of ladders can do that to you....so keep your feet planted on the ground.
I too like the wording in white.
Thanks Yvonne but all credit has to go to Blue Angel who is working on this for us. Jess made my avatar for me as well so I am really greatful to him for all his help. He is a good man and a great patriot for your country!
Thanks as well for letting me know you could see that there avatar LOL! I posted a whole other thread of them and nothing should up! It was all blank yet I could see what I had posted and nobody else! Thought I was losing me mind I did!!!!
I like number six as well but would like to see the black print in white.
I like number 6.....but then they are all fantastic......Thank you Jess for such great work for our site!!!
All nice. Something keeps bringing me back to this one-though I really like the eagle with our flag on it's widespread wings too, so either, but our crosses and name of God are being taken down and removed from everywhere haters of anything to do with faith and God can have it done. It's being rubbed in our faces, and I feel as if the cross draped in our flag, is taking a stand for what our forefathers stood for, while everywhere, it is trying to be erased from our time, and forever.
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I can see it!!!
This is the original one with the grammer corrected in it ..... We are currently using this and can stay with it if you all like ......
If someone is here can you please leave a note telling me you can see the pic?
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I screwed up the last thread on this so bad I am trying this again. I have added all the avatars here:
Wander through and pick your favorite and I will try and bring it here for us to consider.
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