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AP: 27 Dead, Including 18 Children, At Sandy Hook School Shooting In Newtown
2 years ago
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12:56 p.m. EST, December 14, 2012

Twenty-seven people, including 18 children, have been killed in a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School, according to the Associated Press.

The report cites an official with knowledge of the situation.

 

 

Sources told The Courant that there are at least 20 shooting victims. Many of the shootings took place in a kindergarten classroom, sources said.

 

One entire classroom is unaccounted for, sources said.

A person believed to be a shooter is dead. Earlier reports of a second shooter are unconfirmed.

 

 

 

The Associated Press is reporting that 27 people are dead, including 18 children.

Three people were brought to Danbury Hospital, but their condition is unknown. The emergency room is on lockdown.

 

 

 

Police were still searching the school at 11 a.m., and police dogs had been brought in. Around noon, the triage area was broken down, stretchers were taken away and the SWAT team left the building.

 

 

 

Shortly after 9:40 a.m., police reported that a shooter was in the main office of the school. A person in one room had “numerous gunshot wounds,” police said.

Groups of students — some crying, some holding hands — were being escorted away from the school by their teachers. Some students were still in the school at 10:30 a.m., parents said.

 

 

 

School and local emergency officials are accounting for the children, who will be released to their parents to get them home. A staging area has been set up at the Sandy Hook fire department, directly in front of the school.

 

 

 

Frustrated parents are trying to get information from officials, who are still actively searching the school.

 

 

 

Eight-year-old Alexis Wasik, a third-grader at the school, said police were checking everybody inside the school before they were escorted to the firehouse.

"We had to walk with a partner," she said.

 

 

 

One child leaving the school said that there was shattered glass everywhere. A police officer ran into the classroom and told them to run outside and keep going until the reach the firehouse.

 

 

 

Dozens of state troopers are on the scene assisting local police. Heavily armed police gathered in front of the school around 10:45 a.m., and a number of stretchers were set up.

 

 

 

Area hospitals have been alerted.

 

 

 

Andrew Doba, a spokesman for Gov. Dannel P. Malloy, said the governor is monitoring the situation and is in “constant contact” with state police, who are coordinating with federal and local officials. Malloy will travel to Newtown later today, he said.

 

 

 

Afternoon buses and kindergarten has been cancelled.

 

 

http://www.courant.com/news/breaking/hc-police-responding-to-incident-in-newtown-20121214,0,3969911.story

 

 

 

This is just horrible.  There are no words......

 

 

 

2 years ago

Following this Maui and I still wonder why people in America are allowed to buy guns that the military has access to.  I know that people kill - guns are just an extension of what them but dang it a whole classroom of innocent kids?  Will this ever stop?

2 years ago

The killer had a student in the school....and they are reporting he is 20 years old.....wth???   If that is true, he had to be a father at the age of 15!!!!!   Maybe they have this wrong.....not saying a 15 yr old couldn't father a child...but.......

2 years ago

Now they are reporting that he was 24 yrs old.  Also, that he may have killed his mother who possibly worked at the school......just so shocking!!!

2 years ago

This is pathetic!!! You know it's horrible to think of something like this but with the big push on gun control in the White House I would not put something like this past them in making something like this happen!!! I am not saying they did it...but I am saying I can see their devious minds plotting to make something HORRID happen in order to make it feasible to take some kind of gun control action!! What do you think!? The other think that could promote a person to do this is the way this President has this country in so much upheavel and desperation and continues to make matters worse for EVERYONE all the way around! More frustrations, more depression, more negative attitudes, more anger, more hatred, more mistrust.....more of everything BAD!!!!!

2 years ago

I'm not saying I'd put it past them, because clearly one cannot-Fast and Furious, & arming the enemy abroad. Do I believe he and his dem buds have intentionally caused negative attitudes, anger, hatred, mistrust, frustration - it's been in your face, clear as a bell, to all except the totally ignorant-  ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -  he and they have.  And in this way, they know they are responsible for many bad situations that have taken place under Obama's reign. Then they can turn it around and make those gullible enough, believe that guns have a mind of their own, not letting bleeding hearts know that he has no intention of ever disarming all his criminal thug, terrorist, or likes of the Panthers,  friends. 

And yes, when I heard of this, it made my stomach cringe, and my heart hurt. I wish the shooter, sorry, could have been kept alive to die a slow painful death, preferably by parents of the victims.-those who would want to. God forgive me, but, I can't get the picture of it out of my mind, and I have grandkids, and I would kill the SOB who ever did something like this, if I could. Others may, but I do not consider a person a criminal who does get the chance to get the SOB who hurt or killed their innocent child.

2 years ago

So much is coming out about the killer......he was a gamer and a tech whiz......maybe instead of looking at banning guns, maybe we should look at these violent video games that kids play....maybe the violence in movies and on TV......maybe the rap songs wanting to kill cops and degrade women!!!!!   There are many fingers that can be pointed to all this violence....not just guns....but of course....that has already become political talking points right after the shooting.  Mike Huckabee was asked yesterday by Cavuto, where is God when little children are being murdered....Huckabee answered that quite well.....God has been taken out of the schools and our society so we are politcally correct and not offend anyone....so now we ask "where was God"????  (these aren't his exact words, but he made a great point)  Quoting scriptures and questioning God is only approved during tragedies such as this.....other wise......leave God out of it!!!

2 years ago

I could agree with that Maui. There is so much in television shows and movies that show kill, kill, kill! And shoot the cop, shoot or stab the innocent victim, shoot, shoot, shoot, shoot! -  It's sickening when you think about all of them, and alot of them very popular shows to watch.  Maybe Scared Straight would be more of one to watch for young people nowdays, on that note.   People wonder why we want God and morals brought back into the families, and family promoted shows?  If they don't get it, then they are truly dense, and lost to what we have going on in our society today, and why.

2 years ago

This just breaks my heart.  Turned on the news and was watching it ~ immediately shot off an E-Mail to a friend who lives in Newtown, haven't heard back from her.

 

As far as the USA selling guys (oops GUNS), I personally don't have a issue with that as long as there is a waiting period, as well as a WELL DONE background check since all of the Crimminals will get them somehow anyway. 

 

Sadly, I have to say when you have children I would prefer that people have pepper spray and tasers around or a five iron under their bed like I do with a panic alarm.

 

This is just to horrific for words and happens way to often.  

The world is MAD!!!   We need Obama Ousted cause when he was on TV talking about it, I personally did NOT appreciate his emotion at all and when he started the choked up #!#! I changed the channel, I felt it was so fake I wanted to hurl!

 

Sherry, I agree with you on the movies, games kids play...I long for those days with a b/w tv that you could only watch with parents, then play board games, cards, dig in the yard & make mud pies for your Dad.  Shirley Temple on Walt Disney, Bozo the Clown (eek I was on that) Who was that Grandpa that always wore the Choo Choo hat???

 

Gone like so much else.

 

One Could Only Dream I Guess!!! xx Have a Blessed Weekend Guys and Praying hard for all of those that were involved with this shooting, as well as the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

2 years ago

"This is Victoria Soto, and although I didn't know her, she is my hero. I don't know too much about her, but I know a lot of people who do know her and she's amazing. Victoria was a Stratford high graduate and only 27. She was killed today after she hid her first graders in closets and cabinets and told the shooter they were in the gym. He killed her and not one of her children were harmed. I have never been more proud to be from Stratford or to be a teacher. God bless Victoria, her family and friends, and all of those who were involved today in anyway. Victoria is a true hero." Christine Nealy

2 years ago

This is so sad!! Such a beautiful girl too!!!! This whole thing of bringing up the gun control issue by the Denmocrats again is pathetic...as someone said they will use any vilolent or evil situation for political gain...now THAT is sick...that is almost more evil that the situation itself!!!

2 years ago

This has me so depressed and sad I cannot watch your American news at all.

2 years ago

There will be a bunch of Angels in heaven for Christmas for sure this year! Will the pain in this country and world ever end!?!?

FLASHBACK: Mitt Romney warns NRA against an 'unrestrained' second-term Obama... He will be coming fo
2 years ago

“In a second term, he would be unrestrained by the demands of re-election,” Romney told a crowd estimated at 6,000 in the cavernous Edward Jones Dome. “As he told the Russian president last month when he thought no one else was listening, after a re-election he’ll have a lot more, quote, 'flexibility' to do what he wants.  I’m not exactly sure what he meant by that, but looking at his first three years, I have a very good idea.”

 

 

Referring specifically to the right to bear arms, Romney said: “If we are going to safeguard our 2nd Amendment, it is time to elect a president who will defend the rights President Obama ignores or minimizes. I will.”

 

 

http://redflagnews.com/headlines/mitt-romney-warns-nra-against-an-unrestrained-second-term-obama-he-will-be-coming-for-guns

2 years ago

Even though he was kept anchored in his purposefully set up position by fraud, we still see how many voted for his and his comrades cause. Call it selfishness, greed, thinking more of their own selfish desires than what keeps our country strong and safer, and teen groupie mentality that never grew up,

2 years ago

Have you heard that it's being questioned whether there is a connection between the Colorado and Connecticut Mass Murders tied to the Libor scandal?

Libor scandal grows as the fathers of two mass murderers were ...

And how everytime Obama is in trouble, something happens?   Whether or not, I think it's worth consideration.

2 years ago

Interesting Sherry......I am finding this a little far fetched....kind of like the 9-11 conspiracy......but thank you for adding this....something I will follow up on to see if anything more is being said.  I just think they are two very troubled individuals that were really mentally disturbed to beable to kill so many people....especially young children.  They said Lanza never felt pain, even if he burned himself.....I don't know as a Mother, if I would have been able to care for someone who was so mentally challenged and knowing that I could never do it by myself and would need professional help and advice.  The letter I read yesterday from another mother experiencing the same thing kind of tells the story....on the next thread.

 

 

'I Am Adam Lanza's Mother': A Mom's Perspective On The Mental Illness Conversation In America
2 years ago

Friday’s horrific national tragedy -- the murder of 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut -- has ignited a new discussion on violence in America. In kitchens and coffee shops across the country, we tearfully debate the many faces of violence in America: gun culture, media violence, lack of mental health services, overt and covert wars abroad, religion, politics and the way we raise our children. Liza Long, a writer based in Boise, says it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness.

 

While every family's story of mental illness is different, and we may never know the whole of the Lanza's story, tales like this one need to be heard -- and families who live them deserve our help.

Three days before 20 year-old Adam Lanza killed his mother, then opened fire on a classroom full of Connecticut kindergartners, my 13-year old son Michael (name changed) missed his bus because he was wearing the wrong color pants.

“I can wear these pants,” he said, his tone increasingly belligerent, the black-hole pupils of his eyes swallowing the blue irises.

 

“They are navy blue,” I told him. “Your school’s dress code says black or khaki pants only.”

“They told me I could wear these,” he insisted. “You’re a stupid bitch. I can wear whatever pants I want to. This is America. I have rights!”

 

“You can’t wear whatever pants you want to,” I said, my tone affable, reasonable. “And you definitely cannot call me a stupid bitch. You’re grounded from electronics for the rest of the day. Now get in the car, and I will take you to school.”

 

I live with a son who is mentally ill. I love my son. But he terrifies me.

 

A few weeks ago, Michael pulled a knife and threatened to kill me and then himself after I asked him to return his overdue library books. His 7 and 9 year old siblings knew the safety plan -- they ran to the car and locked the doors before I even asked them to. I managed to get the knife from Michael, then methodically collected all the sharp objects in the house into a single Tupperware container that now travels with me. Through it all, he continued to scream insults at me and threaten to kill or hurt me.

 

That conflict ended with three burly police officers and a paramedic wrestling my son onto a gurney for an expensive ambulance ride to the local emergency room. The mental hospital didn’t have any beds that day, and Michael calmed down nicely in the ER, so they sent us home with a prescription for Zyprexa and a follow-up visit with a local pediatric psychiatrist.

 

We still don’t know what’s wrong with Michael. Autism spectrum, ADHD, Oppositional Defiant or Intermittent Explosive Disorder have all been tossed around at various meetings with probation officers and social workers and counselors and teachers and school administrators. He’s been on a slew of antipsychotic and mood altering pharmaceuticals, a Russian novel of behavioral plans. Nothing seems to work.

 

At the start of seventh grade, Michael was accepted to an accelerated program for highly gifted math and science students. His IQ is off the charts. When he’s in a good mood, he will gladly bend your ear on subjects ranging from Greek mythology to the differences between Einsteinian and Newtonian physics to Doctor Who. He’s in a good mood most of the time. But when he’s not, watch out. And it’s impossible to predict what will set him off.

 

Several weeks into his new junior high school, Michael began exhibiting increasingly odd and threatening behaviors at school. We decided to transfer him to the district’s most restrictive behavioral program, a contained school environment where children who can’t function in normal classrooms can access their right to free public babysitting from 7:30-1:50 Monday through Friday until they turn 18.

 

The morning of the pants incident, Michael continued to argue with me on the drive. He would occasionally apologize and seem remorseful. Right before we turned into his school parking lot, he said, “Look, Mom, I’m really sorry. Can I have video games back today?”

“No way,” I told him. “You cannot act the way you acted this morning and think you can get your electronic privileges back that quickly.”

 

His face turned cold, and his eyes were full of calculated rage. “Then I’m going to kill myself,” he said. “I’m going to jump out of this car right now and kill myself.”

 

That was it. After the knife incident, I told him that if he ever said those words again, I would take him straight to the mental hospital, no ifs, ands, or buts. I did not respond, except to pull the car into the opposite lane, turning left instead of right. “Where are you taking me?” he said, suddenly worried. “Where are we going?”

 

“You know where we are going,” I replied.

“No! You can’t do that to me! You’re sending me to hell! You’re sending me straight to hell!”

I pulled up in front of the hospital, frantically waiving for one of the clinicians who happened to be standing outside. “Call the police,” I said. “Hurry.”

 

Michael was in a full-blown fit by then, screaming and hitting. I hugged him close so he couldn’t escape from the car. He bit me several times and repeatedly jabbed his elbows into my rib cage. I’m still stronger than he is, but I won’t

2 years ago

At least we have health insurance now. I recently accepted a position with a local college, giving up my freelance career because when you have a kid like this, you need benefits. You’ll do anything for benefits. No individual insurance plan will cover this kind of thing.

 

 

For days, my son insisted that I was lying -- that I made the whole thing up so that I could get rid of him. The first day, when I called to check up on him, he said, “I hate you. And I’m going to get my revenge as soon as I get out of here.”

 

 

By day three, he was my calm, sweet boy again, all apologies and promises to get better. I’ve heard those promises for years. I don’t believe them anymore.

On the intake form, under the question, “What are your expectations for treatment?” I wrote, “I need help.”

 

 

And I do. This problem is too big for me to handle on my own. Sometimes there are no good options. So you just pray for grace and trust that in hindsight, it will all make sense.

 

 

I am sharing this story because I am Adam Lanza’s mother. I am Dylan Klebold’s and Eric Harris’s mother. I am James Holmes’s mother. I am Jared Loughner’s mother. I am Seung-Hui Cho’s mother. And these boys—and their mothers—need help. In the wake of another horrific national tragedy, it’s easy to talk about guns. But it’s time to talk about mental illness.

 

 

According to Mother Jones, since 1982, 61 mass murders involving firearms have occurred throughout the country. Of these, 43 of the killers were white males, and only one was a woman. Mother Jones focused on whether the killers obtained their guns legally (most did). But this highly visible sign of mental illness should lead us to consider how many people in the U.S. live in fear, like I do.

 

 

When I asked my son’s social worker about my options, he said that the only thing I could do was to get Michael charged with a crime. “If he’s back in the system, they’ll create a paper trail,” he said. “That’s the only way you’re ever going to get anything done. No one will pay attention to you unless you’ve got charges.”

 

 

I don’t believe my son belongs in jail. The chaotic environment exacerbates Michael’s sensitivity to sensory stimuli and doesn’t deal with the underlying pathology. But it seems like the United States is using prison as the solution of choice for mentally ill people. According to Human Rights Watch, the number of mentally ill inmates in U.S. prisons quadrupled from 2000 to 2006, and it continues to rise -- in fact, the rate of inmate mental illness is five times greater (56 percent) than in the non-incarcerated population.

 

 

With state-run treatment centers and hospitals shuttered, prison is now the last resort for the mentally ill -- Rikers Island, the LA County Jail and Cook County Jail in Illinois housed the nation’s largest treatment centers in 2011.

 

 

No one wants to send a 13-year old genius who loves Harry Potter and his snuggle animal collection to jail. But our society, with its stigma on mental illness and its broken healthcare system, does not provide us with other options. Then another tortured soul shoots up a fast food restaurant. A mall. A kindergarten classroom. And we wring our hands and say, “Something must be done.”

 

 

I agree that something must be done. It’s time for a meaningful, nation-wide conversation about mental health. That’s the only way our nation can ever truly heal.

God help me. God help Michael. God help us all.

 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/16/i-am-adam-lanzas-mother-mental-illness-conversation_n_2311009.html

2 years ago

What to do- ?!  I think it may be a problem too that people with different mental problems are being housed in facilities with each other, when some shouldn't be, only exasperating a problem one already has, instead of helping.  When they are in those confines 24/7, can you imagine?  

I guess with Asperbergers, that you don't really have a conscience of right and wrong, but can in a moment have enough of one, like the shooter that killed himself, as to why he shot himself?  I don't know anything about it, that's just something I heard---confusing, confusing.-and I'm just so sickened and saddened by this whole damned mess -Those beautiful beautiful children, and the adults.  It just makes me put my head in my hands, and the tears come.  And now they are once again trying to make it a gun problem issue.  Happens every time.  I can't discount how vicious Obama and his democrat buddies are, and the previous murders and deaths that have happened when there's something that would lead right back to this commie muslim about to come out. I do not believe it was an accident of the Navy Seal helicopter being ambushed either, because they did not have proper surveillance when landing that they normally would have.  I don't like to think of these 2 mass murders being connected, it seems too much to emotionally grasp.  But, the regime Obama is connected with, has no moral emotions or conscience, and they do have an agenda, which is more important to them than life.

2 years ago

Umm-believe I did misspell Aspergers.  Mental health and treatment for the various problems of, is a huge issue in this country. This guy lived at home, and whether at home or in a facility, I think drugs prescribed by doctors are sometimes helpful, but, I often think they can make a particular person, more apt to act out where they normally would not have. That's in itself where probably some doctors, instead of seeing the possible problem with certain drugs on an individual, just end up giving them something stronger, sometimes on top of the one already prescribed.



Not because of mental issues, but physical, doctors did that with my aunt, and she almost died from it, 3 different times, and it was her son, who ended up saving her life, he's a doctor,-by taking her under his care, and getting rid of her meds, replaced with natural medicine. I've never seen or heard with my own eyes and ears the miracle turnaround from western meds to natural and the HUGE HUMONGOUS difference they made, such as in my aunts case. 

It makes me wonder, if not, in a lot of mental health issues, if even though prescribed meds are required, if supplementing them with natural meds might be a help. I do not know the answer to that, but I think it will be an interesting talk with my cousin, who is an acupuncturit, Oriental Medicine Specialist, but keeps every bit on top of knowledge of western meds, as they really are of course necessary for some, depending on their case.-sometimes they are needed, sometimes not, sometimes in conjunction with a natural form instead of just more, or higher doses of western meds, which too often just causes more physical problems, or whatever,  than a person already had. 

2 years ago

My daughter just called me a few minutes ago, and asked if i heard about the bomb threats at Cambridge school here in San Antonio. I hadn't, and have the tv on now, but they're still talking about the Connecticut massacre. Cambridge school is only 6 miles from me, and my daughter's friend's child attends there. I am going crazy with worry about my own grandkids as it is, and now this so close. 

1 year ago

I would not put anything past this Obama administration in order to use an instance or several in order to promote gun control! It's just too many bad shooting situations too close together to be something of the "norm" in this country!! ESPECIALLY....when there is the issue of gun control that we KNOW has been on the table for as long as it has with Obama!!!!!!!!!!! If there is anything that can happen to further the agenda and expediate it as much as possible you better believe he will use it!!! He has no conscience...no respect for life....no care or concern about what anyone else wants done...it's all about what Obama wants done in his narcisstic life is all that counts with him and his damn fake tears in that speech thing he gave is disgusting!!! It just shows the depths that horrid person will stoop to in order to use people or an agenda to get what he wants!! That is pathetic!!

As far as some of the kids today....I think a lot of the situations with them have been handed over to them by adults in the "PC" world! Let the kids control the adults..then the kids can throw a fit, get mean and ugly, threaten, abuse, use, show disrespect so the parents can take them to a Dr. that says "Oh they have this or Oh..they have that and slap them full of damn pills and let them have their way every damn time they throw a fit or little Johnnie or Suzie-Q might get angry and hurt someone....they feed kids insecuritys so that they become worse with every instance!! By gum...when we were kids nobody knew the damn names of over half of these claims that Dr's have come up with today and we had a great remedy for all of them...we got our asses swatted big time and we were not let go to school activities and we were told we were going to stay home and if we threw a fit we got clobbered again on our butts! I am so tired of all of this pill pushing BS giving kids more pills and more pills and letting them get by with all of the BS they do and show the disrespect towards adults, parents, TEACHERS and you name it but heaven fobid...DON'T DISCIPLINE them or you will go to jail! Good Lord!!!!!!!!!!!!! God Help Us!!!!!!!!!

1 year ago

I do believe this is a good idea!! Anyone coming into a school KNOWING that ALL of the teachers are ARMED are gloing to think twice about doing something stupid when it comes to trying to kill students and teachers with guns! After all how many times does a crazy person try and break into a police station and kill cops!?!? Whenever you have an armed populice where it is advertised that it's armed you are going to see a dramatic drop in shooting incidences I think! Look at homes that have burglar alarms installed and it's adverised on all of the windows and doors!! My guess is they are pretty much left alone from being broken into or for that matter anyone with dogs!

1 year ago

Set up a training program for all teachers to learn how to shoot a gun and be prepared!Have them go through programs for this every year and maybe even have re-run courses a couple timnes a year just so the teachers will feel safe and confident with using guns in the event that they do not usually use a gun. Those who are anti gun...well..good luck to them I guess!

1 year ago

On second thought......One would not have to know which teacher was armed or not...just the fact that MOST of them were armed would be enough I think to deter most would be criminals from not wanting to take a chance at trying to make an attack on kids and teachers. Plus there could also be alarms set up in rooms at easy spots that could be used to set off to warn another teacher with a gun in the event that particular teacher didn't have a gun and needed help. They need to get away from making more damn gun laws....that is not the answer...criminals and crazy people are not going to give a rats a*s about another gun law!

1 year ago

Yep on the dogs too. There are just some dogs that would tear the holy bejeebers out of a criminal breaking into their home, or about to do their owner harm. But I think that's a great idea to have teachers trained, go through programs a couple times a year. Yet, I also think all teachers who will carry should be extensively background checked, maybe better than they are now, and have extensive psychiatric testing, evaluation, because I don't want to hear of a teacher who carries who has become disturbed about something, going off the deep end. I realize that nothing is 100% when it comes to that, but yet I believe responsible teachers and staff with guns will cut down on the crime rate in our schools. Nothing is 100%. If a teacher or staff is going to go off the deep end, and start killing, they are going to do it whether they are in the school at the time, or whether they enter the school with that purpose in mind.  Better staff and teachers be armed to stop a criminal, than not.

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