The grandmother of a 3-year-old girl who was viciously attacked by three dogs says she was asked to leave a KFC in Jackson, Miss., by an employee who said the girl's scars were scaring other customers.
“They just told us, ‘We have to ask you to leave because her face is disrupting our customers,’" Kelly Mullins, Victoria Wilcher's grandmother, told WAPT-TV. "She understood exactly what they said."
Mullins said she was driving her granddaughter home from the hospital in early June when they stopped at KFC for mashed potatoes.
The dog attack, Mullins explained, has made it difficult for her granddaughter to swallow.
"The right side of her face is paralyzed," Mullins said. "She's got a lot of surgeries to go through and she won't even look in the mirror anymore. When we go to a store, she doesn't even want to get out [of the car]. She's 3 years old and she's embarrassed about what she looks like."
The incident, Mullins said, left the girl in tears.
“No matter what’s wrong with a person, if a person’s different, if a person’s scarred, or is a different color or anything, people shouldn’t be discriminated against,” Mullins continued. “Her being 3 years old and already being discriminated against, it makes me mad, because I know for the rest of her life it’s going to be like that.”
KFC said it is investigating the incident.
"We take this very seriously, as we have zero tolerance for any kind of hurtful or disrespectful actions toward our guests," KFC spokesman Rick Maynard said in a statement. "Our investigation is ongoing, but we have been in touch with the family and are committed to doing something appropriate for this beautiful little girl and her family. We will also work with the franchisee to take appropriate action at the restaurant once the specifics of the incident are determined."
Not surprisingly, her story has gone viral. Facebook page launched in April to give friends updates on Victoria's recovery has garnered more than 30,000 likes, thanks in large part to a post about her experience at KFC.
KFC, it's worth noting, responded on Facebook the next day.
"Please accept our sincere apologies while we try to investigate this incident," the restaurant wrote in a comment. "If you could help provide details of the incident ... we will look into this immediately. We have zero tolerance for any kind of disrespectful behavior by our team members. Once we have further details, we will immediately investigate this and take action, and we wish nothing but the best for Victoria in her recovery."
A donation page set up to help Victoria's family pay for her medical bills has raised nearly $20,000.
According to investigators, three pit bulls attacked Victoria the backyard of her grandfather's home.According to WAPT-TV, the grandfather, Donald Mullins — Kelly Mullins' ex-husband — shot and killed two of the dogs; a third was euthanized. The grandfather and his girlfriend were later arrested on child endangerment charges.
According to Simpson County Sheriff Kenneth Lewis, Donald Mullins was keeping 10 pit bulls at his home at the time of the attack.
"This is probably the worst (pit bull attack) we've ever had," Lewis said.
The month before, a 3-year-old boy died after being mauled by two pit bulls in Holmes County, according to the (Jackson, Miss.) Clarion Ledger, "an attack that prompted Sheriff Willie March to state his support for a countywide ban on the breed."
Wow. Never underestimate the stupidity of Americans.
I hope Grandma delivered a Julia Sugarbaker style (dignified) ass-chewing before she sauntered out of the place she took her grandchild (to eat garbage).
The KFC employee asked the wrong people to leave. I would have told the "delicate" customers who complained that they are the ones who needed to leave if they were unhappy. That is exactly how that should have gone. The complainers should have been shunned, and refused any further service.
Never under estimate the power of stupid in America, especially in the deep south which, of course, is where Mississippi is located. If there is a silver lining in this, it is the story did go viral and according to the post, money is pouring in for this child and the many operations she needs. You can bet this family, more than likely, doesn't have health insurance to speak of.
I was also happy to read that the grandfather and girlfriend were arrested for child endangerment. More than likely they should have been arrested for dog fighting which is rampant in the south as well, but that wasn't even mentioned. Who keeps 10 plus pit bulls if not for dog fighting which means these dogs were trained to do exactly what they did? When training these dogs to fight, they throw in poor, helpless dog victims, many times puppies, that are unable to fight back to defend themselves. I'm sure this little 2 to 3 year old child just looked like another little victim/training tool to these dogs who have been trained to kill and destroy.
As absolutely horrible as this is for the child, we can at least hope she will get the operations she needs and perhaps, hopefully now, even a little faster. The pit bull breed though suffered a huge blow as well. They are the most hated breed now and as usual, it is the human element that trained these dogs to be vicious. Not the whole breed is vicious, but everytime there is an attack on a small child by a pit bull, there is a call to destroy and ban the entire breed.
What a bunch of sicko's. It's a child for Christ's sake. And even if it was an adult.......
Live can be hard enough without jerks making it worse.
Its true that humans created the pit bull, so humans need to take responsibility. They can Stop breeding them. Simple. Its not like there aren't 100 other breeds of dogs to choose from if someone wants a dog. Jeesh. People act like pit bulls are some "endangered species" when there are more dogs in the world than humanity knows what to do with.
I appreciate the efforts of breeders to 'breed out' their visciousness (so no, their visciousness is not soley due to training; even the 'nice ones' can and do snap and attack), but again... Lots of big/strong protective breeds out there that don't have a mean gene.
Sorry, Katii, I do not agree with you.
About anything in particular, Susan, or just in general? Either way, it's ok with me
Dogs have very adaptive genes. Overt aggression can be bred out. Just don't let the dogs with overt aggressiveness propagate.
Pit bulls scare the crap out of me. They serve no purpose other than fighting/killing. its seems like 90% of the freaking dogs at the pound are at least 1/2 pit. They are walking time bombs. They are cute and sweet until they aren't.
This is for foxes, but the same holds true.
I don't condone the cages though.
Without getting into the discussion of dogs (I am a cat person after all), I find the behaviour of the enployee to be deplorable. She herself should apologize.
I have an Irish setter, a "tame"show dog (bs, as If I would ever), and his 2 best friends are a German Shepherd and a pit bull. ..guess who is the most aggressive?
I ripped my face open 15 years ago, understand exactly what the little girl is going through, luckily I healed on my own....but her family being involved in dog fighting is the real issue, plus people being a $$ holes.
Yes, Katii, I don't believe that pit bulls are inherently vicious. They are some of the sweetest dogs ever. They used to be called the "nanny dog." If you're old enough, you might remember the series, "Spanky and Our Gang" and if you do, you'll remember that their dog, Petey, was a pit bull. It wasn't until the dog fighting craze took over that we started hearing all of these horror stories. Very small breed dogs actually bite and attack children more, it's just that they don't do the damage or can be stopped easily by an adult. Many other breeds of dogs bite people, it's just that generally those dog "attacks" almost always go unreported. They’re just not exciting enough to report.
The American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) and the American Staffordshire Terrier (AmStaff) are the true names of these dogs. Many have been decorated as heroes in our wars and in many disasters. The image of a pit bull, once was considered a symbol of unflagging bravery and reliability, representing the United States on recruiting and propaganda posters during WW1. Many famous people have owned and loved pit bulls, such as Helen Keller, Theodore Roosevelt, Gen. George Patton, Woodrow Wilson, Fred Astaire and Humphrey Bogart. They are used as therapy dogs, visiting nursing homes and hospitals; they work in search and rescue, such as those at the WTC after 9/11; many are used by US Customs as narcotics and explosives detection dogs; and by police as sentry and protection dogs. But most of all, they are great family members and just love to cuddle.
Unfortunately though, some people started using these "terriers" and many other dogs as "pit" fighters thus the name "pit bull." Any dog of any breed used for fighting is a "pit" dog. In the past, it was Shepherds, Dobermans and Rottweilers that were used for fighting and when they were, they were the subjects of dog-breed legislation. It's just that right now, today, it's the "pit bulls" being used for fighting so they are the subject of BSL now.
And Chile, the reason the shelters/pounds are half full of pit bulls is because they are practically not allowed to live anywhere anymore because of BSL. There is more and more breed specific legislation targeting pit bulls than any other breed these days. In many places, home owners are not even able to obtain home insurance if they have a certain breed of dog; and many familes who own a pit bull, who have to move for whatever reason, find more times than naught that their new apartment/home does not allow pit bulls and they have to take their family member to the shelter. Thus the shelters fill up with these dogs.
In Canada, at least in BC I think it is, if a dog even looks similar to a pit bull, it is taken by the police and put down, if not just shot on the spot. Multiple breeds are commonly mistaken for pit bulls, including the Boxer, the Presa Canario, the Cane Corso, the Dogo Argentino, the Tosa Inu, the Bullmastiff, the Dogue de Bordeaux, the Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog and the Olde English Bulldogge.
The number one killer of children is cars; second is disease; and third is parental abuse; and on down the line; dog attacks are way down on the list of things that can happen to hurt or kill a child. There has been extreme adverse attention given to pit bulls.
At any rate, I had no intention of getting into a pit bull argument with anyone in this particular group, as I doubt it is the group for such an argument and I am new to the group; it was just the story itself, that dictated I at least say something. I definitely feel for this child and what happened to her, both by the dogs that attacked her and by this idiot employee at KFC who also "attacked" her.
There's no excuse for cruelty against anyone or any animal. It was just that after going to actually read the article as to what happened and reading about the "other 10 pit bulls" taken from the property and the state involved, I will lay odds, very high odds, that this family was raising the pit bulls to fight; meaning, they have been trained and yes, bred, to fight. The smallest, sweetest little puppies in the litter would be sacrificed by these cruel people as bait dogs. From puppies, they are tormented, and made to fight. This is one of the most horrendous things happening in our country today when it comes to animal cruelty and it's practically condoned in some circles, particularly in the south. But it's spreading more and more throughout the country. That idiot congressman, Steve King (R, IA) even believes that dog fighting should be made legal.
There is a certain meaness in some people that makes them want to gather in large groups and watch people or animals tear each other apart; they get a certain amount of preverse pleasure out of watching the suffering of others. This has been going on forever and there are tons of examples going back thousands and thousands of years. Most people don't have a clue how bad the situation has become and so a child getting mauled by a dog, particularly a pit bull, is headline news, while dog fighting isn't even mentioned.
THANK YOU SUZANNE FOR THE REALITY CHECK! !!!
I watched in horror as theses peaceful dogs were training to be put into fighting rings in the Caribbean, as well as roosters (cok fighting is the biggest sport, on Sunday, after church. .of course. ...)
There are rules about breeds and sizes because liability issues. Those liability issues are frequently based on insurance premiums. If insurance actuarials are saying the dogs pose risk, then the dogs pose risk. its pretty simple.
They serve no purpose.
Insurance companies as a source? REACHING!!!!!
Math as a source. Crazy, right?
If it's math from a multitude mega rich insurance company, you bet!!!
Been to court with those liars more than once..
Plus, anyone who can say that dogs serve no purpose after reading Suzanne s history lesson is willfully blind, or didn't bother reading it, tl:dr??
Typical!!!,,, plus the insurance companies are one of the greatest evils of our time...try collecting from their math when the "experts"disagree with your claim, or worse have a deny all claims policy, like most!
"Math as a source. Crazy, right?"
How do you know you have a complete data set...or at least a representative sample?
(Oh, I said I wasn't going to get into the dog thing)
Yes! Because an insurance company recognizes the risk, and more importantly can quantify it, of allowing pit bulls in an apartment building and therefore charges the owner more for insurance, the owner has a choice of making tenants take on that increased charge or not allowing pit bulls.
Somehow because an insurance company is doing what they do, assigning a dollar value to risk, they are evil.
I had the insurance companies tell me I owed a 15% surcharge for hurricanes and after paying it was denied for hurricane damage, they aren't giving back for those high premiums, it's a scam...like most insurance is!!like death insurance, lol
This post was modified from its original form on 18 Jun, 9:05
There are rules about breeds and sizes because liability issues. Those liability issues are frequently based on insurance premiums. If insurance actuarials are saying the dogs pose risk, then the dogs pose risk. its pretty simple.
They serve no purpose."
Sorry, but my insurance company also says that Siamese cats pose a risk.
Don't believe it. It is just the insurance company trying to make more money.
This may have everything to do with why "anyone," including evil insurance companies (they may be evil, but evil rarely equals stupid) consider pit bulls a big risk factor:
Read the whole article- it is horrifying: http://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2013.php
It is a complex issue.There are many things with both dogs and people that determine what they become.Genetics is part of it ,but so are upbringing and enviorment. Insurance companies are extortionists to say the least.Bottom line is,no matter what breed you have,the owner is the one responsible for keeping the dog under control.This child's grandfather failed to do so,criminal charges are justified in this case.
From 2005 to 2013, 62.2% of all dog attack fatalies were caused by Pit Bulls:
The "reasons" do not really matter. The "Human (imperfection) Factor" is never going away. Pit Bulls having an unnatural desire to kill (dogs' ancestors kill for food and attack when made to feel threatened-self-defense) are yet another unintended consiquence of humans playing God doing unnatural things to Nature's creations. When you think about it, the whole concept of pet (domestic) dogs and cats has not worked out very well for tens of millions of them. Just sayin..
Blame trains , planes and automobiles for being dangerous machinery, so kill them..and never blame the driver?
Machines are not sentient beings. And yes, unless the car malfunctioned causing injury, or some other special circumstance, always blame the driver. Cars don't have a mind of their own. Dogs do.
I'm not advocating that we kill the existing ones. I am advocating that we stop breeding them. enforce a punishment on those that do. There is no reason to have those dogs around in society
Dogs are sentient, so why do we presume to make a certain breed extinct?? Wow how kind not to genocide them!!! Next it will be another objectionable breed, or species?? Who judges? Where does it end?
Do we kill all sharks-.because of an attack? Or do we learn how to get past them? it used to be German Shepherd, rottweiler, doberman, ...who's next,, maybe muts???
If you look at some of the writings of the KKK and of prominent people in the medical and science communities in slavery days,many of them advocating killing blacks.I know that animals are different in some ways than people,but killing or fazing out certain breeds is not the answer.I had a pit bull for 12 years,never bit any one.I have an irish setter now....fierce dog,right?Bit my husband on his butt,he needed stitches.Later,he bit me,almost the exact same place,as well as my foot.Both my butt and my foot required stitches.This is a supposedly gentle breed.I am not sure if some thing happen to him before we got him.But I think if you work with the animal,you can help it,this has to do more than the breed.
Yes! where does it end! We will have genocide against black people if we phase pit bulls out of our lives!!!! NOOOOO!!!!! Say it ain't so!!!
You are an oxymoronic aggressive pit bull yourself
Maybe we should start with Internet trolls...
I love my little Shi Tzu mutts, Coco and Jayjay (litter mates). I suspect they come from inbed stock because neither is the sharpest tool in the shed, but they are very sweet and personable, almost always mind- until you turn your back I love all dogs. I want every single dog in the world to have a family and forever home.
If there wasn't this big SAVE THE PIT BULL!!! IT'S NOT THEIR FAULT THEY ATE YOUR CHILDREN! campaign, they'd have probably lost much more favor with the public, and numbers would have been at least reduced by now in a natural way (buyer selection).
And of course there should be no genocidal campaign against any animal! Good lord. That was quite a leap LOL
Yes, because according to you, somehow dogs are going to know that we are trying to make their breed extinct, because they are sentient!
Yes, and I am the troll and oxymoronic too!
You know it's very convenient to say the pit bull or any dog, for that matter, has a mind of its own and makes its own decisions about how its going to lead its life, whether its going to be a good dog or a bad dog, whether its going to be a biter or a licker, and on and on and do you really know just how damn stupid that sounds and is.
If any of that was true, then we would have very strong laws, just as we do with people, against being cruel to them, abusing them, torturing them, eating them, and killing them, would we not? But no, in most of America, they are considered your "personal" property and anyone doing any of those heinous things usually receives no more than a slap on the wrist and perhaps a small fine. And in many other parts of the world, they are abused at the pleasure of whoever in the hell wants to abuse them and no one stops it and no ones gives a %#&!*%.
So climb down off that mighty pedastal you've decided to put yourself on and just think for two damn seconds about what you're saying. I had my say earlier and had no intention of getting into it "so to speak" with any of you about this because I really didn't think this was the forum for it, but damn, you guys just keep egging it on don't you? It is not the damn dog's fault that it is trained form birth to be agressive. The dog is not born being agressive, any more than a baby is born to have prejudice against people of a different color or a different religion. For a child to grow up and be prejudice like that, it had to be taught to be that way. It is the same for a dog. The dog is not born bad, mean or agressive, it is taught to be that way by its master. Any dog can be made to be whatever you want it to be just by teaching it to be that way; just as any child can be taught to grow up hating people of a certain color or religion.
You need to just get over yourself and your damn stupidity about these dogs. Just try to think for one second before opening your mouth with your vile ignorance!
We will know, and that's the whole point of tolerance.
AMEN.DOG BLESS YOU ,SUZANNE
BTW...( I ripped my face open in Puerto rico after a hurricane trying to avoid some homeless street cats.(as I am highly allergic)).so should I hate cats now?)
What is being advocated that is so untolerable? there have been numerous other dogs that have gone out of favor and have stopped being breed. its doesn't hurt the existing dogs. it hurts no one. Not to mention that we are currently changing breeds of other dogs. look at the freaking bulldog.
Your arguing some point that doesn't hurt anyone. The existing dogs don't give a shyte. There are many good ones, yes, but the ones that aren't are a fukking menace. THey are different than dobs/rots, shepards. They serve no purpose.
I GIVE UP.............anyone that can judge a sentient being to have no purpose,,aside from all the people who love and count on them,,,is not worth any more of my time...
I was bitten as a child by a small dog,if you look at real statistics most kids are...stop breeding poodles,chihuahas,and purse dogs.
headed out sailing,this isn't accomplishing a thing....
no one is advocating hurting dogs. But there is no reason to keep producing certain breeds either. Its not like domesticated dogs are free to breed with who they want anyway. We clip their nuts and ovaries... WTF is the difference?
Most dogs were bred for a purpose and they are very good at doing that one thing. Pit bulls are good at killing. That is what their purpose is.
But its not their fault they eat people! SAVE THE BREED! KILL THE HUMANS!
Well what is it that you think other dogs "do" that pit bulls don't? Why do you think other dogs serve a purpose, but pit bulls do not? That is the ignorance in your argument. You simply pull crap out of your a** and spew it like it proves something.
Pit bulls have been some of the most decorated dogs in history, through wars and other major disasters. Some of the most used service dogs after 9/11 were pit bulls. They are used as service dogs and yes, even as nanny dogs; that is before the public was made to fear them so. In fact, the nickname for this dog was the "nanny" dog. Try doing just a little bit of research before disparaging this particular breed of dog.
And yes, many groups do advocate on behalf of the pit bull because we have to. If we didn't, just as Chile has deemed appropriate, they might become extinct. But, let me dispell that myth too, Chile. They wouldn't become extinct. No, they would be kept by unscrupulous men in our society, here in the US and elsewhere in the world, to be used in the most heinous ways. They will be used to make money for these men and for the gratification of the most vile among us in the human race who love to sit around and bet on how fast and how bloody one dog can tear up, maim and kill another. And the horror of these dogs lives is not while they are in a ring tearing each other up, no, the real abuse these dogs experience is when they are "between" fights so to speak. So, you bet your ass people take up for them.
Sadly, it is apparent just how bloodthirsty this world has become. And the more the poor and dowtrodden get trampled upon, used and abused; and the more the human race is pitted against one another for any number of reasons, the worse things will become for the least among us. And believe me, animals are definitely, in the minds of most people, the least among us.
For some reason, the gladiator/arena type mentality rears its ugly head, not that it ever really goes away, but it becomes more accepted and people just don't seem to care as much as they do when the world is a happier place for them. Life for the poor is like living their lives in an arena where the upper middle class and the wealthy are the spectators, while the really, uber rich in the world are running the games [the world.] (I'm betting you know of whom I refer.)
I mean after all, millions of people struggle day to day just to put food in the mouths of their family, not to mention a roof over their head or clothes on their back. Do you think they really care that much whether there are dogs down the street being bred to tear each other apart? So, yes, thank goodness people stick up and advocate for pit bulls, as well as many other animal breeds and species; because whether you know it or not, animal abuse of every kind imaginable to the sick human mind is being done out there. And it's not just once in a great while, no, it is multiple times every single second of every single day.
It's a proven statistic that if you start choosing who should live , die, be born, not be born, even with animals. ..humans will soon progress to thinking it's OK to do to people, and then we have Nazis all over again..or worse..pilgrims. .
They have already started doing people.We have begun with people in the womb who are deemed unwanted/inconvenient.So,yes,this theory is already proving itself.They are already discussing euthenasia against certain others in the population.Let God be God.You do not create the life,you have no right to destroy it.I know that this statement will open another controversial conversation,but it is the truth.
This is true about taking life.It is also true about messing with life,GMO'S,making new breeds,or what have you.Same principle applies;you did not create it,don't mess with it.
What controversial conversation would that be Justice? Who is in control of one's body or the existence of god, no matter by what name the faithful of any number of religions, sects and demoninations wish to call it? You can probably tell which side I'll come down on.
I think the stats speak for themselves. It is what it is. There is zero moral obligation to preserve ANY "breed" of dog.
Because man created a breed of dog does not oblige humans to go to extra lengths to preserve the 'breed' after it becomes a hazard to those humans and other living things.
Going to chime in here and should probably not. Have been around pitbulls and the ones I've been around have been very sweet and great around people, a reason they were among other things nanny dogs. Sure they are big and strong, also don't believe there is such a thing as being born mean. Know people who have rehabilitated ones who have been used for fighting and have heard that most, like over 95% can become family dogs, even after being where they were, so it is not always the dog. Any dog can become mean or vicious, or just act out from being startled, the bigger ones get more press because they can do more damage. It's not the breed, it's either people using the dogs natural weapons against them (creating fighters out of strong big dogs) or people just not understanding or working with the dogs natural behaviors. Ok, I'll get off my soapbox now.
Holly, Justice, I really hope your comments are not directed at me because I have not ever proposed or advocated "killing" anything! I am all about protecting life, so I am really put off by your inference that I am not. Maybe ypu are not really understanding what I am saying, maybe I am unable to articulate well enough, but your responses have little to nothing to do with how I feel.
TM, surely you know there is a vast difference between being bitten by a poodle and being mawled TO DEATH, right? I have been biten by dogs too. So what? We are not talking about sewing up a wound here and there. We are talking about DEAD.
"We will know, and that's the whole point of tolerance." -TM
We will know what? That PBs are spayed & nuetered ? Do you not believe in that either? Are all dog owners considered 'intolerante' because they have their pets snipped? Or just PB owners? Or just those that don't like the PB breed because they practically stand all alone among breeds that KILL people.
Yes, tolerence is good- as long as it doesn't get someone killed. Tolerating aggression is frowned upon. Tolerating deadly mawlings by a breed responsible for just under 100% of all fatal dog attacks? Not so good.
Kati,I was not purposely referring to you,not sure why you thought that.And tolerance is good,as long as no one gets killed,you are right.Susan,I agree that women and anyone else have control of their body.But what about that unborn child.I do have Spiritual reasons for this belief,but even if you put that aside,this child ... yes,it is a child.....should have the same rights.Seperate person,seperate DNA.I am all for birth control,it is the responsible thing to do.Murder is not birth control.I know you do not agree,that is your right .I don't resort to name calling when people do not agree with me.
A zygote, a clump of cells, is not a person. I'm not for late term abortions particularly, unless it is to save the life of the mother. And yes, in my opinion, the life of the mother does trump the life of this unborn fetus.
We will know that we selected and exterminated a breed of animal, and btw, I looked at your site, it only has one sided stories...every story has two or more sides.
And they hate rottweiles just as much as pitties, who will they object to next...200 incidents in 9 years,, all dog bite incidents, I highly doubt they are that organized...they are however extremely single minded...did you also notice that the "owners" of said devil dogs had multiple dogs in many cases, in abnormal numbers for "family" dogs, something doesn't add up, I suspect fighting as in this very story that sparked thus whole thread.
There is no "we," TM. I didnt create the breed, I have never had anything to do with PBs. I have never advocated for their destruction. You may want to scold Mother Nature too, however, because She allows whole species of her creations to die off. I guess some just no longed served a purpose.
You didnt answer my questions. I'm done here.
A zygote is still a child,just as a crumb is yet bread.Anyway,why can there not be discussions and differences of opinion in this group without people getting angry.Just as I do not agree with Susan about the zygote,I am not angry,I still think she is a good person.We just have a different opinion,that is ok.Nothing to get angry at.(Not saying you are angry,Susan,just pointing out to some here that we can have differing opinions without getting nasty.)
Pit bulls to abortion. Wow
The idea that you can't get the same kind of love or affection from a different dog breed is ludicrous. PBs serve no purpose. We have no need for them. Let them go that way of the cordoba.
"Have been around pitbulls and the ones I've been around have been very sweet and great around people, a reason they were among other things nanny dogs."
This is what I have heard as well. Points mde here too about other breeds of dogs- German Shepherds, great dane, rottweiler, dobermans, that have all been viewed this way at some point in time.
The problem is WHY they were bred recently and how they are being trained. If they are trained to fight, then yeah...they certainly will.
I don't go out of my way to interact with them, BTW and would not own one since I have no experience with dogs. I am not trained for it.
Unborn Babies Feel Pain & They Dream !!!
By Rai Rojas
Editor’s note. Of all the thousands of posts we’ve published, this ranks as among the most favored by National Right to Life News Today readers. As such, I like to republish it every year or so in order that our many new readers can enjoy this powerful commentary.
When he was about six months old, my grandson and his mom came to my home for a highly-anticipated week-long visit. In the middle of one of the nights he was there, he roused and entire household out of our collective sleeps with his screams. These were not normal newborn cries – this child sounded as if he were in serious distress.
My daughter and I arrived at his crib at almost the same time. She immediately picked him up and attempted to comfort him. But he was inconsolable, he wasn’t soothed by his mom’s voice, or smell, or even her just being there.
Amid his screaming and as she rocked him back and forth, I lit a dim light in the corner of the room so we could wake him up gently. When he opened his eyes and saw familiar faces and sounds he immediately began to calm. There were a few deep sighs, an occasional quick sob, but he fell back to sleep almost immediately.
My six month old grandson had just experienced a nightmare and I couldn’t imagine what a 6 month old could have been dreaming about. I was ignorant as to what could have caused such a small baby to have a night terror. My ignorance led to a bit of research, and what I discovered was enlightening and interesting, but that knowledge in the context of what I do was sobering.
I found several articles on infant nightmares but a peer reviewed article by Dr. Alan Green, M.D. is the one who stood out and from which I will quote heavily.
Dr. Greene quoted a study by scientific research group Roffwarg and Associates who at the start of their research believed that they would find that infants do not have REM sleep because they do not dream.
But by the end of their study the researchers were startled to discover that not only do newborns dream – even on the first day of life – they actually dream more than the college students in those same studies. (Science, 1966; 152:604)
“This study has been repeated several times,” writes Dr. Greene, “confirming and expanding our knowledge. We dream more in the first 2 weeks of life than at any other time. The visual part of the brain is more active during newborn REM sleep than during adult sleep.”
Then Dr. Greene asks and answers the question that is as amazing as it is troubling:
“If children dream from the moment that they are born, might they dream before that time?”
“We now know that they [unborn children] begin to sleep at as early as 4 weeks of gestation (Electroencephalography and Clinical Neurophysiology, 1975;38:175). Dreams appear to be a kind of parallel processing by which we integrate our experience, making new connections in our brains. In the uterus, babies probably dream about the muted light they see and the sounds they hear such as heartbeats, voices and music. Shortly after birth, they dream about the explosion of new sights, sounds, tastes, smells and textures as they delight in getting to know their parents.”
Here was scientific, peer reviewed proof that unborn children dream. I read those articles over and over again and I couldn’t shake-off the thought of those children who survive late term abortions, and who dreamt as they were placed in linen or broom closets to die.
I’m sickened with the thought of an unborn child’s dream being interrupted by the slice of a curette, or the ingestion of poison, or the “snip” of her neck.
We fight, we work, we live in the trenches, so that our youngest dreamers can survive. Please join us.
What f'g bullshit!
Not b.s. just because you disagree.Maybe she forgot that you can not disagree with others in this group without someone resorting to anger,discreditation,or name calling.Not all in this group,but a few.Personally,I would take the knowledge of one who has completed 8 years of medical school,given birth to 12 children,and raised some who were not her own than special interset/anti child/pro death people. Even a "zygote" has its own dna.It is a child,as a crumb is yet bread.I can not believe how vehemently people will attack anyone who advocates against child murder(yes,it IS a child),as I know will happen because I said this.Shows how unwilling to be truly educated some are,especially when they resort to nastyness when they do not agree.Abortion is niether healthcare,nor is it birth control,both of which I advocate.No need to respond with your nastiness,should that be what you choose to do.I will not even bother reading it.
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...in addition to this,NO ONE should be forced to choose between going against their conscience or facing legal concequences,no matter how much I ,or others disagree with them.
8 years of state sanctioned medical school is not really a comfort. The American medical industry is the third biggest killer of people, trailing only heart disease and cancer- numbers for which, at the end of the day, can be attributed also to the 'medical industry' making it by far the biggest killer of people in the country. And nope, these statistics do not make me anti-doctor or medicine. I hear doctors in other countries do a much better job of not killing their patiients, and don't bankrupt them in the process.
Katii, on this I absolutely, totally agree with you.
My ex stupid, "family"doctor, almost killed me 3 times, a pharmacist actually was the first to save my life by not filling a deadly prescription, (I would have died if admistered...also a hospital in Maryland put me in toxic shock. ..aside from the bs drugs he tried to get me to take. ..I do NOT trust most American doctors. .
Well,on that note,it is the state sanctioned medical care that advocates and performs most of this child murder,so,there you go.I,myself,use this very sparingly,I feel it is one of MANY tools to use in healing and keeping well.treating a tumor I have with raw cannibis oil,and the pain has all but disappeared.so I agree that babylonian medicine is not the be all,end all.
Back to the topic....It appears that KFC never asked disfigured tot to leave store: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/06/24/kfc-disfigured-child/11299881/
Yeah....I heared that the lady scammed people.
(fewer women would have abortions if they used birth control- or stop having recreational sex
....free at almost any clinic.
This woman who sayed that this happened at this restaurant should have criminal charges against her.People like her make people unwilling to help others.
So all the health-risking anger, angst, and blood boiling was avoidable.
Yes,Kaiti.It usually is.Here is something that makes most people happy.I choose to concentrate on things like this.....
This is Mason.He is such a good baby.Only 2 months old,but already laghing and smiling at everyone.You can not be around him long and remain angry.Such a sweetheart.
Aww, Holly, Mason is just precious! What a sweet, adorable little face! I love babies so much
Look at that smile! I can not dispute that he IS adorable. Mine are all grown.Babies and children are thereputic.
Thank you. He makes me so happy...My 3rd grandson.The 4th is due in Dec. Thought that I was expecting too,but I am not. Love babies,but I will enjoy these,haha.
like I said leave it to the women and we will reach a level of tolerance. ..and work together! !!
That haz never been my experience LOL
It takes both genders, both male and female, to coexist successfully.
We all have good things to contribute.I love both.It takes both to create new life,that is a clear message from Almighty.Love you all,have a night as beautiful as all of you.
omg, Mason is too cute for words. Bless him.
Hey,I am not advocating a world without men,not by a long shot
I just was relating in a way that I believe our brains are wired differently,and have read studies proving this..
women are more intutitive,empathetic,they practice "appropriate worry",etc
while men have their own attributes of courage,strength,and no appropriate worry,aka,stubborness,lol
We definitely are made differently.This is because we each have our own purpose.One is not better than the other,just different.This is good.I can not use a hammer when I need a nail,and vice versa.I also can not use one without the other,just,as Rahab said,you need both to create life.All are good.All are needed.
"Above all, from the human mind must be erased all thoughts of war as a solution. Then and then only will war cease…
-THE EMPORER HAILE SALASSIE,KING OF ETHIOPIA-
A FuKKING Pit Bull just attacked my dog at the dog park. Almost ripped his throat out.
Of course "he has never bit another dog before".
They never do until they do. Fuckk those things
Oh God, Chile, I am so sorry to hear this ð Is your dog going to be OK? Are vet bills covered? If you need help, let us know.
Thanks Katii. He is fine and I am fine, just infuriated. They never bite until they do.
I would help too.I am happy that your dog is ok,and you too.It is the owner's responsibility to keep them under control.At least your dog is ok.What kind of dog do you have?
I have a 65 pound mutt that is tan with a white chest and paws. Black muzzle. Goofy and sweet.
Of course its the owners responsibility. Pit bulls blow.
It is the owner's responsibility, and so sorry for what happened to your dog Chile, however still don't think it's the fact that the dog was a pit bull that was the problem, can understand why you feel that way though.
Doesn't make it right at all, but have had a person at a dog park, who was on her cell phone, no where near her dog, who was trying to start something with mine, tell me I needed to control my dog. Seriously, I was within 10 feet of my dog and she was on the other side of the park on her cell phone. That behaviour I just don't get.
Of course its the dog. WHen they bite they don't release. When they decide they want to fight for dominance they just snap.
They are a menace and have no place in society.
Some dogs are certainly like that.Some people are too.Some people,even though others are being kind and sympathetic,will say and do things to provoke fighting.It is too bad.They are battling them self,I think,and deserve our pity,not our wrath,they already miserable enough.
Kaya your empathy continues to astound me, I respect you eternally.
Kaya, you are so right with that statement, just wish more people could and would hear it.
Really? we are comparing people to dogs again?
There are differences,that is sure.But there are similarities too.People are being nice,you don't need to turn every conversation into a contest or an argument,do you?Just asking......I wish you and your poor dog the best.
if only many people had the sense that dogs do......
Chile, everyone here who has posted on this has been supportive of you and what you went through with your dog. Can you not just hear that?
He's right,you cannot compare dogs to people,dogs are infinitely more forgiving..to quote Chile
" the more I know people,the more I like my dog"
having said that,I am one of the owners who has to keep my dog restrained,dog parks are the worst breeding ground for hostile and rough play,my dog learned to play rough,it gets misunderstood for agression,and people complain all the time
we carry a water pistol to spray in his face should he even lunge towards another dog, he's 85 lbs,,,
on another note, my first setter was pinned by a large mellow 200 pound newfoundland,that put a one inch hole in his neck and wouldn't let go..
not a pit bull,not even close.
Haha...you know what my dog did to me and to Lorenzo.This is not even suppose to be aggressive.We have matching scars,lol.As was sayed,there are bad and good for all breeds.The pit bull we had never bit any one.My setter has bitten 2 people.Individual basis,some one also sayed.I agree.Hugs to you all,Chile too.
looks crazy,but click the link above.it does work
I guess that family believes that dog serves a purpose.
Thanks Kaya, great story.