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Former London mayor blames U.S. for Boston jihad bombings
1 year ago

Once again a Western leader displays the unconscious paternalism and ethnocentrism that mars so much of the West's response to Islamic jihad: their assumption is that Muslims are passive, helpless people who can do nothing but react to what the West does or does not do. The idea that Muslims may have ideas of their own, and that some of them may hate us for reasons of their own that are derived from Islamic texts and teachings, and that that hatred cannot be dislodged by any amount of "respect" from non-Muslims, never enters their minds.

 

"Former London Mayor Ken Livingstone: Boston Bombers' Anger Triggered by US Conduct," from MEMRI, April 26:

 

Following are excerpts from statements made by former mayor of London Ken Livingstone, which aired on Press TV and were posted on the Internet on April 26, 2013:

 

Voice of Muhammad, a caller from the UK: How [come the Boston bombers] enjoyed all these pleasures there, and yet, they ended up blowing themselves up [sic] like that?

 

Ken Livingstone: Well, I think there is a problem… Very often people get incredibly angry about injustices that they see. They would have been reading about the torture at Guantanamo Bay, at Baghram airbase. They would have read stuff about how, I think it is 54 different countries secretly collaborated with America for this rendition – people being snatched off streets taken to be tortured, because the Bush regime believed that they were all potential terrorists. There was such ignorance in the Bush White House about Islam and about the history of so many disputes that exist in the Middle East. People get angry – they lash out.

 

[...]

 

It's the whole squalid intervention that has disfigured the record of the Western democracies. I think this fuels the anger of the young men, who – as we saw in Boston– went out, and, out of anger and demand for revenge, claimed lives in the West.

 

 

Video at:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/04/former-london-mayor-blames-us-for-boston-jihad-bombings.html



This post was modified from its original form on 30 Apr, 6:52
1 year ago

I am not going to debate with this person regarding the opinion other Countries have of the U.S. and whether they are justified or not.  I am simply going to remind that people living in a glass house should not throw stones.  The overall history of the the UK in the world is certainly not stellar and there are those that hate the UK.  They demonstrated imperialism much has Russia.  The criticism of the U.S. is that they involve themselves in helping a country but do not go all  the way and demonstrate imperialism; they don't just take over the County and administer the government functions there.  We prefer to help them learn to govern themselves which the UK does not have a history of doing.  So for me it is a little hypocritical to hear a past official of the UK criticize the U.S., ignoring their Country's own history.

1 year ago

 We all cannot ignore the fact that ALL our security agencies dropped the ball........Not one but ALL

A trip to Russia by Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of two brothers accused in the Boston Marathon bombings, escaped notice because U.S. agencies failed to share information, members of Congress said yesterday

Representative Mike McCaul, a Texas Republican and head of the House Homeland Security Committee, said he wanted to know why agencies including the Department of Homeland Security that got information from Russian intelligence in 2011 didn’t coordinate when Tsarnaev traveled to Russia last year.

CIA gets this information, the CIA’s got it, FBI’s got it, then DHS has it. The FBI puts up a flag so does DHS, the FBI flag does not go up when he travels to Russia, so they don’t know that he went to Russia,” McCaul said on the “Fox News Sunday” broadcast. “When he comes back from Russia he is clearly radicalized.”

How many more incompetent security agencies do we need before they get it right and do their job CORRECTLY

"STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES" and our tax blood money pays these incompetent clowns

1 year ago

But Frank, that is not what this man is stating.  He is saying that it is due to the anger that Muslims feel because of inequities they feel they have suffered from the U.S.  That is ridiculous.  This started long before 9/11.  We have proof that there have been terrorist attempts (al Qaeda involved for one) for many years before 9/11 or our involvement in any Middle Eastern Country.  The reason that we are hated is our support of Israel pure and simple.  

I understand that you are saying we made mistakes and yes, we did, but that is a separate issue from what this man is trying to make.  What are your thoughts on what he is saying?  Do you feel that the terrorists zeroed in on the U.S. because of the Gulf Wars?  Do you think it had to do with anything else that we have done wrong?   What had we done other than to support Israel to cause all the past issues:  Attack on Marine barracks in Beirut, Lebanon in 1983, our support of Israel during the Munich terrorist attack, terrorist attack on the U.S.S. Cole while refueling in Yemen, etc.  There have been attacks on the U.S. soil prior to 9/11, as well, but not revealed to the public to avoid fear.  However, 9/11 pretty much changed that and now we are hearing of more of these situations.

None of the previous are on Bush's watch until 9/11.  In fact, they have been on Democratic President's watch; so we can't blame the GOP.  

Might I remind you, respectfully, Frank, that all these agencies are not allowed to work independently any longer; any information they get is to be turned over to Homeland Security and they make the decisions.  Therefore, the one that dropped the ball is not the CIA nor the FBI, not even National Security Administration; it all falls on Homeland Security and gool 'ole Janet, again.  She takes her orders from Obama, so what does that tell you?

He sets the procedure she is to follow; she makes no move without his approval.  So, where then do we place the blame, seriously.  I say on the President and Homeland Security and based on their efforts, using the DOJ, it is apparent that they are our worst enemy in areas of terrorism; they do not think it is a real threat, they don't want to name it for what it is and they hamstring the agencies that could do something and you have to ask, WHY?

1 year ago

Here we go again.  Moslems are engaging in terror because we are picking on the poor little darlings.  It is amazing how effective a person motivated to deny truth can be at failing to see it.

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