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 Would you dare... May 10, 2005 9:14 AM

How would you like to see our future Evolution, what are the things you would like to change first? On what part of evolutionary process you want to influence, or you think is best and easyest to influence, or it would be allowed for humans to be involved in? Would you dare to change genetic code - humans or nonhumans or maybe to change genetic structures of all living beings on the planet? Do you think it is possible to create world without pain and fear? Is genetic engineering sufficient or we need something more to be used for. Is individual transformation of only one species - humans for instance enough for becoming this planet a better place? Are conscious social changes sufficient, or we need to go deeper in genetic code or even deeper then that for benefit of all!? Do we have responsibility and duty to correct mistakes
in natural Evolution and so thus create the World without pain...Would you dare to play god..or become alike? In one word: how do you immagine our future conscious Evolution?
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 May 20, 2005 10:50 AM

I think the first and only thing human being has to learn is to live with the world as it is, not how to change it.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
This is place for change May 20, 2005 12:35 PM

but change on better, of course. World is anyway changing every day due to human activity, and so we must change the very system on the planet to avoid such harmful changes. To create one new way of exisitance in harmony with environment. Even if we have to change great part of nature, including ourselves.

Do you really want to live in world like this? With so much hate, unneccesary violance, pollution, death of inocente...All that things are not accidents or someone`s free will, they are built in the very structure of this planet. Young people very often see world with idealistic eyes, and I was like that naturally. Being realistic is to see world as it is, and this planet needs one big rearrangement. This civilization is made to pollute, it is alienated from nature, it is not predicted by natural system, connections are lost and nothing can be done to make humanity live with nature in harmony. There is only one way to get things in order and that
is radical change, revolutionary Evolution! Remember - Evolution wants to become conscious, and wants to change itself consciously.









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Hello All! May 24, 2005 5:38 AM

Hello Everyone. I'm Owen. Nice to be here.

My 2c worth: I think that human beings have got to a point in our evolution where we are realising that cities DO NOT WORK! Mankind has moved from a nomadic life to a sedentary (staying in one place, farming) life and then we needed to built cities as a place to run it all - but - every culture that has built large cities (Babylon, Ancient Egypt, Maya, Inca) has fallen and a lot them destroyed themselves. In answer to your question Super, I would like to see us evolve in the direction of sustainable communities.
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to wish, to dare, to learn.. May 25, 2005 4:59 PM

to wish, to dare, to learn and to remain scilence. These golden rules of Hermetism gives us a lead in this time of global challenge. Maybe I came up with "dare" to soon, many of you still don`t have a wish for change. I can understand that after these disasterous "changes" on Earth made by humans- people are afraid of any messing with natural process. That is quite reasonable. But that changes were made from selfish interests of one species, they were not holistic and beneficial for all and project I am talking about must be certainly holistic before anything else. Desire for structural changes comes soon after you realize that world cannot be organized to exist without hate and violance if we change only surface, only decor and engine which moves that on would still be working on a same way.

Welcome aboard Owen. You have your view about what conscious Evolution should be, Ezra has her view too, other members have their ..Conscious Evolution is still young and fast developing area, so there are many different streams in it concerning how it should benefit to the World. It is still open for new ideas, new proposals..Large cities are one of symptoms and consequences of our own alienation from nature. Yes, all civilizations with large cities have fallen, but all great civilizations have fallen! so thus this one. Question is what shall we leave behind? That`s why Evolution must become conscious. First thing is: what options do we have? In general there are two mainstreams: conservationist and revolutionist. First is concerned about how to save this beautiful planet and to live sustainble life with others, and second group beliefs that nature is not perfect and we have obligation to use our wisdom for creation of one better world. The question is: can we learn how before we dare to do it, or first we must dare to learn it?  [ send green star]
 
... May 25, 2005 10:08 PM

Do daring and learning come 'one after the other' ?
Daring -------> Learning
Learning -----> Daring
Or do we do them together, so that practice and theory are together, one and the same ?
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It would be nice, but.. May 27, 2005 9:44 AM

Trouble is we`ll never know what is going to come out before we trive.
That`s why we have experiments. Probably there are prophets who can predict everything but that kind of knowledge can not be used in general. It would be against the rules. So if we want to learn as species then we must dare to try. Somebody will sooner or later, and maybe it`s already happening somewhere in the world. We must learn from our mistakes. Only that mistakes can be sometimes so big that nobody to learn would remain or nothing would be left where we could apply our new knowledge. So conscious Evolution is one quite different process then of any known from before. People with holistic knowledge have great advantage to those who use only rationalistic way of thinking. Holistic experiments couldn`t make such damage to the Earth as those coming from modern science. My proposal would be that experiments on Evolution should be allowed only to holistic scientists and nobody else.  [ send green star]
 
Wow. May 28, 2005 3:03 AM

Can you tell me anything about holistic science Super? And are there any scientists that call themselves holistic scientists? Any links. I've never heard of that term. Thankyou. O.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
for now-nothing, but we can create it! May 28, 2005 11:47 AM


Holistic science is still on it`s begining together with Conscious Evolution. There is no officially recognized and accepted holistic method. I am working on it`s creation and hope to see many young thinkers to continue this promising work. In this moment there is only holistic medicine as one discipline deserved to be mentioned but it is not unique science, with unique method. More likely it is one mix-up of different medicine traditions from chinese and bioenergy to modern one. If you want to know more about present situation in holistic trends try with one of search engines. There is not a single link in this moment which I could recomend it as real holistic science. These are only trives or comments on how would be lovely to have one holistic science. I couldn`t be more agree but where is it? Without holistic science there can`t be conscious Evolution at all. I am using the word science instead of sciences intentionally. There can be only one holistic science. Otherwise it is not holistic. All others are disciplines or methods.

Holistic science should study interconnections among all things in the Universe. It is Meta-science, wisdom above all others. You can immagine why is so neccessary for our ruined planet. It includes all knowledges about visible and about invisible as well. It have to deal more with meanings then with numbers. For example, meaning of expression on someones face cannot be expressed in numbers so thus ordinary science cannot say nothing about it, though. But we know there is certain meaning in it, we feel things like that more then we are able to describe. Meaning of some period in history, style in architecture or music style tells us something, is understandable to us thanks to holistic connections among us and creation. So holistic science is more qualitative then quantitative. Of course it will include all numerical results from other sciences and will give that results real meaning in complete picture of the world. In one word : holistica is strategy and other sciences are tactics. Holistician is an architect and all other scientist are engineeres. For that reason holistician must be familiar with all sciences, philosophy and spirituality together! It must be one complete personality. Are they exist already? If not then they can be created.



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