June 07, 2005 2:06 PM Vicki L. Hi there April 04, 2005 1:16 PM
Hi there, I have for the past few months been getting daily headaches which are extremely painful at forst I thought they were just tension headaches but when I had them for about 3 weeks constantly I decided to go to my GP for some advice. I was referred to a medical clinic and then for a CT Scan which was clear, so I was referred to a neurologist who thought she saw some swelling in the nerves behind my eye and suggested it might be Binign Intercranial Hypertension - I have never heard of this before so have been trying to find out as much about it as possible since then - I had a lumbar puncture last week (not the most enjoyable experience I have ever had) which showed the pressure to be elevated. I am now waiting on an appointment for an MRI and another appointment with the neurologist for an outcome on the lumbar puncture results.
It is good to have found a site like this to give more more information.
June 07, 2005 2:11 PM Maeve L. HI EVERYONE May 14, 2005 5:12 AM
Hi all and thabks to rain for sending me an invite to meet you all! This is a fantastic facility, it's so good to meet others who are going through or have been through the same thing. Rain, I hope you're keeping really well, I'll be thinking of you on the 18th.
June 07, 2005 2:14 PM Rebecca J. was diagnosed 12 years ago May 28, 2005 10:00 AM
hi there
I thought everything was ok, but the last couple of months headaches and stars have come back, eventually went to gp who said it has come back, so waiting to hear from consultant that was a month ago and still waiting, i was informed that it could be six months before i can see him, having good days , only a dull ache but mostly bad days where it worse when you move but when you are a single parent you just have to get on with it.
thanks for your interesting accounts of what you have gone through
Thanks Rain for e-mailing me this site. I was diagonosed 3 1/2 years ago although they reckon I have had the condition for a lot longer. Recently had a shunt and am doing really well at the moment.
Glad you accepted my invitation to join. BIH is such a relatively unknown disease that it's so good to talk with others that have it....you can go mad otherwise (well that's my excuse...lol).
Trying to encourage members to use a minimum font size of 3 when posting as we have some group members that have difficulty with their vision.
Would be great if you'd take the time sometime to share with us some of your first hand experiences of BIH.
PS. Hope you're enjoying finding your way around Care2!
HI, my names tracy. i was diagnosed with BIH 8 yrs ago. through getting pregnant twice within a short time. i was discharged from my neurologist 3 yrs ago, i suffer bad headaches still which lead to bad migraines. i feel that my doctor does not support me in anyway. he thinks its psychological. i still suffer in silence. when i ask for pain relief and all i get is buy paracetamol. someone help please.. xx
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Hi Tracey! Please don't suffer in silence....shout out your problems and your pain from the roof tops...insist that your dr listens to you and gives you the right help and medication. Or change your dr!
It really annoys me how the medical profession (with a few exceptions) treat this disease as headaches - if ever that was a term to undersell an illness that has to be it! Headaches - head pains more like!!!
Just a q? How do you know you contracted it (if that's the right word to use) by having two pregnancies close together? Curious as I've never heard of this.
Please hang on in there and get the help you need and deserve. I'm here for you if you need a friend.
I was just last week diagnosed with BIH. I'm a ninteen year old female college student. I was attending UC Santa Cruz. I had jsut moved out to attend that school and in the first week I started getting this bad headache. I waited a week with this headache, but when I got double vision I knew I had to go to the hospital. I was crazy finished that day of school seeing double and dying in pain. I went to the ER and the doc told me it was a migraine and sent me home. I came back that next day dying in pain, and luckily they had a neurologist look at me. I had a ct scan, then a mri, and the doc finally thought that it might be bih. He did a spinal tap and gave me a diagnosis Sep. 28. I'm scared and a little nervous. This is a scary disorder. I had to drop out of UCSC because I missed class while i was in the hospital. I want to know if most people have a lot of problems with this or if it is managable for some. I hear a lot of really sad stories and hope there are some happy ones. Thanks everyone for the hopeful words.
Firstly I'd like to welcome you to the group Emma!
So sorry to hear that you have just been diagnosed with BIH. I've been offline for a while as I've moved country so I apologise that I've not replied to your post sooner.
How are you doing now? Have you been put on medication? Are you having LPs?
I hope a lot of your questions have been answered and you are beginning to manage your BIH. Believe me it can get better. I was diagnosed in Feb 2005 and have been off medication since Jan 2006 and off LPs since Sept 2005. I'm now in what I call remission. I hope to stay this way but know that it's always one day at a time. But it is important to know that it's not all doom and gloom.
I have had BIH for a year now, i have a great consultant who understands me, but my GP is hopeless. every time i go to see him he says he does not know much about BIH and calls my consultant, which is no use to me when i have questions to ask him and he can not answer them. over the past two months my BIH has got worse ( i thought i was going mad at one point as i was hearing thing but my consultant says this is normal??????. i have had Lumber P, done 6 times now and it gets worse every time i have to have it. now i have to have a shunt put in.(has any one had a shunt put in and do they work)
some times i feel like im by myself and know one understands the pains in my head. i some times end up crying myself to sleep.does it get better or is this what its going to be like for life.
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Joyce I got the tinnitus too at one stage...there are so many different symptoms of BIH...almost a whole dictionary I think!
What pressure readings are you getting with your lumbar punctures?
I've not personally had a shunt but many do. I've heard different stories regarding shunts...it's a really individual thing...and there are I think a couple of different types of shunts too. Ask your consultant to explain the different types to you...get as much knowledge and information that you can so you can make an informed decision.
Finally, thank goodness you have a wonderful consultant! I was diagnosed when I was still living in Ireland and my consultant was pretty.....*hit! I wonder if you're seeing the same one that I saw back in November.....Dr Hilton-Jones.... if so then I have to agree, he's fantastic! It's not uncommon for GPs (and even consultants) to know next to nothing about BIH as its such a rare disease; so have patience with your GP and feel blessed for having such a wonderful consultant!
Just registered with this site a few moments ago .Can anyone else confirm that stressfull situations aggreviate their symptons ?
I was diagnosed with BIH, some 10 years ago. Scary time back then as i had just lost my father in law to a Brain Tumour, so you can imagine the thoughts running through my head. Had severe headaches for several weeks and nothing would clear them, saw the doctors, who after numerous tests said they couldnt find anything wrong, So went to my optician, who was excellent. The care he gave was amazing, he drove me home and within an hr i was admitted to hospital.2 weeks later I had an MRI scan, and which point they confirmed Shadows had been seen around the brain , to each side. BIH was confirmed diagnosis. Every 6 mths was seen in hospital,taken off all contraceptive and lost weight, still with no change. when i woke one morning to find I had lost some vision, and with what vision i did have left was blurred, I was treated with Diamox. After 18mths, i was told i could just see my optician on a regular basis as my optic nerves had returned more or less flat and the pressures were down. After 2 years of headache free times, it has returned,both sides affected. confirmed by my optician, just waiting now to be seen again by the hospital. All I can say to those experiencing this for a short while, hang in there, it does get easier if treatment is regular. Keep on top of all your checks and best wishes to you all.
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My pressure readings for my lumbar punctures IS BETWEEN 35 & 45
i went through all the different kinds of shunts yesterday with my consultant and im having one that runs from the bottom of my spinal cord in to my belly. so it will act as a full time lumber P,
aT THE MOMENT I'M HAVING LUMBER P DONE EVERY 2 WEEKS, WHICH ALL OF YOU KNOW IS NOT NICE. THE MORE I HAVE IT DONE THE MORE SCARED I BECOME. (HOW SILLY IS THAT)
my consultants name is Dr Lansbury, HE IS GREAT HE UNDERSTANDS ME AND PUT MY MIND AT REST. he also takes time to explain thing to my husband.
and thank you for your advise i sat down mith my husband and told him how i was felling and he told me how he was felling. He said he feels useless as he cant do any thing for me, i advised him just to be their is all i want.
so thanks
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Hi I am Sarah, am 27 and was diagnosed with BIH on 15th July 2006. I have been a member of this group for a few months but thought it was time to tell my story. Its not as horrific as some of the stories I have read so in that respect I am quite grateful.
In June/July I had experienced a couple of dizzy spells and some blurred vision. I thought that when I couldn't read the teletext with my glasses on that I needed some new specs so made an appointment with my optician.
The optician was great. She suspected straight away that it wasn't a problem with my sight at all but with my brain and immediately made arrangements for me to be admitted to Hallamshire Hopsital which is actually the Sheffield Teaching Hospital.
The treatment I received was fantastic considering it was a Saturday. The hospital were expecting me and within one hour of arriving I had my first CT scan. The doctors explained all of the possibilities and the likelihood that it was BIH and not a tumor.
After receiving confirmation that the CT Scan was clear I was told I would be staying at least until Monday for my MRI Scan. In the meantime I would have my first lumbar puncture. Opening pressure was 36.(Not much compared to others I now know)
Now this didn't go too well. Had to have four needles before they were able to draw the fluid. Each time the needle was longer and thicker. Unfortunately it was 10pm at night before they finished this after which it was time to go to bed. They explained the importance of drinking plenty of water and lying completely flat for the next few hours.
I drank all of the water supplied and laid completely flat. After about four hours however I developed a horrendous low pressure headache. I had this for the next six days. The only way in which I can describe the feeling is that every time I sat up or tried to walk about I thought my head was going to explode. The pain was so bad that it made me violently throw up. After lying down again though it settled again so I dreaded each moment that I had to sit up.
After a week of hospitalisation and numerous consultants and students asking me questions and assessing me I was allowed home. I couldn't believe how much strength I had lost by just lying on my back for a week.
When I was asked how I felt it was difficult to describe. I didn't look ill but I certainly didn't feel right, the whooshing sensation in my head everytime I stood up and the feeling that something is just pushing your on your head and it feels like your eyes are going to bulge out. Explain that to someone who doesn't know or understand and you just get a strange look as if to say 'she's wierd'!
Anyway after 4 weeks I went back to work and I am able to cope with the side effects.
I have so far lost 1 and half stone which is more than the 5% recommended by the doctors and have been taken off my contraceptive pill. Unfortunately my pressure readings are higher than ever so the docs are a little disappointed. The last one was 44. I am sure they were convinced that it was my weight causing the problems.
I now attend the hospital every three months for lumbar punctures and eye checks. I am also signed up to be involved in various studies investigating the disease. Hopefully taking part in these will help someone in the future.
My next step is to go on the drugs trial. Not quite sure which ones yet but the doctors are going to review the situation in July. My next LP is in three weeks. Not looking forward to it but its essential they tell me.
I can only say that thanks to this website I have read reassurances that life does go on and there is hope that it may one day be able to be successfully treated.
It makes a difference just being able to talk to people who understand what I am going through.
Hi there!I have already told my story to everyone and would like to praise everyone for their help and support. I just have a new question and I help someone may be able to help. After being diagnosed with BIH in 2003 I lost quite alot of weight but recently started getting worse and could hardly move for about 4 months and so my new exercise regime went out the window. I got serverly depressed as I couldn't do anything for myself and was alone (I couldn't manage to focus on a computer long enough to pop back here) anyway not being able to do anything with my children or even go christmas shopping for their presents made my depression worsen. I have had 2 more LP's since christmas and am much better now but my healthy eating and exercise plan isn't working anymore an I have gained nearly 3stone by comfort eating during that time. I have pulled myself together and would be very grateful for anytips on successful dieting for people with BIH as I have found alot of diets irritate my migraines. Also I am curious to know if BIH has caused any sort of depression for anyone else? Thanks, just writing this stuff down has made me feel loads better.
Hi there, not been here for a while, been far too busy trying to cope with headaches, uni work and making sure I attend placements (which I haven't for last 5 weeks) So sorry to read about some of your experiences, and I know compared to some of you, my experiences are mild, however debilitating nonetheless.
Well I had my latest outpatient appointment with my neurologist, who decided rather than repeat another LP (phew) he would try me on Diamox, so this started on Tuesday, and I feel like I am peeing for Britain!!!
Rain, I know you were on this at a point, and I am so happy for you to read that you have recovered, that is excellent news!!! How long does the diamox take to kick in? I am on 250mg once dailly at 6pm, so of course I have been awake overnight needing to whizz also lol.
I have my fingers crossed, get a result from this so I don't need to have a repeat lumbar puncture.
I have BIH and nearly every time I stand up I have the sensation of my brain swelling, my vision blurrs and my ears pop. After approx 40-60secs later it fades away.
Now I haven't been on a aeroplane for approx 5 years which was also previous to me being diagnosed with BIH.
Does anyone know whether the pressure change in the aircraft will affect the pressure in my head? Has it happened to you?
It surprises me to read the different treatment types, depending on where you live geographically. In the US, the standard treatment after confirmed dx is Diamox and sometimes furosemide. Repeated lumbar punctures are thought to be too dangerous, and can cause some nerve damage. I take 500 mg 2 times a day, with 40 mg of furosemide 1 time a day. I know other people who are on as much as 3000-45000 mg of Diamox. While it can have some nasty side effects, such as tingling hands and feet, and it makes carbonated beverages taste bad, AND it can make you tired and prone to depression, it is still one of the few meds out there. I notice that in UK, it seems that repeated LP are standard, and Diamox isn't used until much later, if at all. That would concern me as you are so at risk for losing vision.
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When it was confirmed that I had BIH I was put onto Diamox (can't recall the dosage) and also had Lumbar Punctures approx every month. I was in Ireland at the time.
But I know what you mean....different places treat us very differently.
Yes, it is interesting. I've also heard that in some areas they are doing cranial expansion surgeries. It seems that if more effort were placed on figuring out WHY we get it, there would be more reasonable treatments. I know some have had luck with shunts, but I also know many that have had such a bad time with them; infections, kinks in the line, clogging etc, AND they still have headaches. It is just so frustrating. It is 3:00 am where I am, and I'm sitting up because my head was throbbing earlier, and it feels better up than down.
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Nicola, depression goes along with IH for quite a few people. Whether it is the side effect of Diamox, or an effect of the pressure on the cranial nerves, I don't know, but I take Cymbalta for depression, and many of the people on the board where I am asst manager are on anti-depressents as well.
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Hi everyone, my name is John, IM 32 years old, I recently joined daily strength, as my cousin is a member and our uncle has ms and we both have had pain in past year or 2. One of the people on thier who i been chatting with and is freinds with my cousin on thier read my profile about my pains lately and stated that she has bih and some of the pains i listed were similar, she stated "as looking at your page and saw that you said you have been getting a
lot of headaches and pain in your left eye. That is some of the
symptoms from BIH (increased spinal fluid which presses on the brain
and eyes) I have it, they have to check the pressure in your spinal
fluid to find out if you have it. which doesnt not feel good :/ But you
might want to look up BIH sometime" so i checked it out and did some research and came across this site, alot of what i read are some of what i have experienced. I have been having pains in the left side and back of my head since Feb 2006, and the pains are pretty seveer at times, they last anywhere from a few mins to a few hrs at a time, and within the past month and a hf i have been getting headaches alot, pain in my left eye, pain spreading to my right side of head, and tingling in feet, and sometimes rapid heart beet and trouble speaking or chest pains. I had a cat scan on wed and see doctor this wed to hopefully get more tests done, such as an mri and get tested for phiochromocytoma which my mother had about 7 yrs ago. I have been telling my doctor about the pains for a while and they been getting worse, tellls me to take asprin which doesnt help the pain much. I am hoping he will set me up to get more tests done, i have also been having memory trouble simetimes and more tired then usual, plus occasional stomach pains and hot flashes. Any advice or ideas what i may have or what it could be would be good, so i know what tests to have done
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hi i was readding more on BIH here, and seen it affects mostly woman, any cases of men being affected as well. My new friend mentioned it to me as of the pains i have been having, any known cases, do some of the pains i mentioned sound like a possibility of this or something else anyone might know of my uncle has ms, grandma had cancer and diabetes and mother had pheo, any ideas?
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To diagnose IH, you have to have an MRI/MRV to rule out lesions or tumors etc, you should also see an opthalmologist, who will look at the optic nerve to determine if there is any swelling (papilledma). I would contact your primary physician to let them know what symptoms that you are experiencing. The next step is to see a neurologist, and they would typically order a lumbar puncture. They would be checking for increase CSF pressure, but they also check the fluids for other abnormalities.
As far as the symptoms, the main ones are headache, usually worse in the middle of the night, or when bending over, that doesn't respond to pain meds, dimming or graying out of vision, ringing or whooshing sounds in your ears, neck and/or shoulder pain and at times, pain in the eye itself and papilledma. A person can have all or maybe just one or a few of these symptoms. IH is a very individualized disease.
You are correct, it does affect mainly women, usually with weight issues, but not always. I know of other men that have this, and I myself had recently lost weight when my symptoms started, and I was 45 years old at the time of diagnosis, where the typical female is 20-40.
IH can be brought on by certain outside influences, such as medicines, etc, but it can also strike for no apparent reason, which is why the preferred term is Idiopathic Intracranial Hypertension, or just Intracranial Hypertension, or IH.
I'm not a doctor, but your symptoms could be indicative of many other medical conditions, and the most important thing for you is to be seen by a doctor to get started on testing.
This is just a high level overview and what I know of IH. Good luck, and please contact your doctor soon. If it is IH, your vision is at risk, and the sooner you get the dx and get on meds, the less likely it is that you will suffer lasting vision issues.
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NEWLY DIAGNOSED WITH BIJ November 24, 2007 8:38 PM
I have been diagnosed with BIH in the last 2 weeks. i am quite scared about how it is goingto affect me and my young family.
I am 36 years of age married with 3 young boys and explaining things to them is quite hard especially when you are unsure yourself of what is happening.
I have had repeated LP's but have been lucky in the fact that the last one the pressure was nt elevated but once again I am unsure of how long this will continue. I take 500mg of DIAMOX twice a day and I have placed myself on a strict diet which may or may not help.
Has anyone tried using a naturopath?? I was thinking of this but the unknown is overtaking my thoughts at the moment.
Any suggestions from anyone how to get through the uncertainty?
hi and welcome John and Kelly December 02, 2007 6:50 PM
Firstly welcome to the group, i hope it will help you both by sharing with others who know what you are going through.
Firstly John a lot of your symptoms definately could be indicative of BIH but you'd really need an MRI scan to help rule out other possibilities. BIH does affect men and children too but mainly, according to research I've done, affects overweight women of child bearing years. Have to agree with Babby too...a good opticion will be able to tell you if your optic nerves are ok, this is another sign that it could be BIH.
Kelly i know you're going through a scary time honey. I must have been abut your age when i got BIH. In a way it was a relief that i'd been diagnosed cos my partner and daughter didn't believe me when i was ill in bed all the time, used to think i was being lazy.
If either of you need to talk to someone please feel free to send me a private message through here.
I am new to this, i am just looking for others with my condition that i can speak to, and understand what i am going through. I was diagonsed in Sept 2007 and have 3 LP's already with two more booked in over the xmas period. also i now have detachment in my left eye, so which is causing flashin lights, floaters etc...
my family have been great but dont understand what i'm going through.
Hi Jen, I know this is scary, and it is hard for family to understand, when there is so little known about even the cause of IH.
Do the doctors have you on Diamox or Lasix or any other meds? Why are they scheduling repeated lumbar punctures? I ask because repeated LPs have risk too, such as scar tissue, and leaks that can cause low pressure headaches. The problem also with LPs, is that your CSF replaces itself very quickly, so you are usually just getting temporary relief.
I'm not a doctor, but I do have IH and am coming up on my 3 year anniversary of diagnosis. Not much to celebrate in that is there?
I'm not saying that the repeated LPs are wrong, and they may have determined it is your best course based on your situation, but typically you would be treated with meds, and if you are looking at repeated LPs, have they discussed a shunt?
Good luck honey, I know it is scary, but I do know what you are feeling.
They tried Med's and they made me so sick, i couldnt walk where my feet hurt, i was sick and just so tried, was only out of bed for 5 hours a day. Because my pressure was so high last time (2 weeks ago) (over 80) they need to keep the pressure low and this is the only other way. i'm going to have LP's every month after the next two this month. They have discussed the shunt but my neuogloist doesnt like doing shunts because of all the thins can go wrong so she wants to try this. She does this with two other patients that have the same condition. They are going to review it in 4 months and see how fast my pressure rises. At the moment my pressure is rising fast so the headaches get so bad and i just get over having an LP before i get another one. also i get the LP low pressure headaches after, they said its because they have to drain so much. I have my LP's done with X-Ray guildon as they cant get the needle right in without hitting my neves (they have tried over 8 times to do this).
3 years? i dont know how u have coped! i'm finding it so hard already. My wedding has been put on hold and my parner as well as my mum are finding it so hard, they i dont tell them everything i'm feeling as they get upset. thats why i'm so greatful for your reply x
have u losted weight? did u find losing weight helped? i have been advised i'm a size 18 and have lost nearly a stone and it doesnt seen to be helping but i will keep on.
Well, I am fortunate that my eyesight has been stable. I suffer mostly from the chronic head, neck and shoulder pain, and am working with my MD on pain management meds. We just switched to oxycontin, with vicodin for breakthrough, and I also take Cymbalta, at 90 mg. I take 1000 mg of Diamox and 40-80 mg of Lasix.
I don't know how long you were on Diamox, but it does take awhile to get used to. Some have to take Zantac or other stomach meds with it, but the only real problems I've had with it, are the tingling of hands and feet, and the lethargy, and the fact that I can't drink anything carbonated anymore!
Weight loss is an interesting thing. I had lost 70 lbs before I was diagnosed. I know many that have lost weight, and while it makes them healthier overall, it didn't have an effect on their IH. Some have had success with it. This is such an individualized disease, that each person really responds so differently.
so, if you would also like to join there, you will find many others that can also offer some guidance to you. Their stories range from the mild to the severe, some have shunts and have had success, some have shunts and are living a nightmare. But, the best thing is, it is very interactive and I think it is good to belong to more than one support group, and share the information wherever you can. We are afterall, people with the same condition looking for answers and someone to lift us up when we feel at our lowest.
We also have members from UK, Australia, USA, Ireland, and it is wonderful to make connections with people who are getting different treatments that may not be known where you currently live.
One can only pray for remission to this stuff, but, while we wait for that or a cure, we just keep plugging along, and helpin each other!