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Installing Linux October 04, 2005 2:22 PM

Hi all, we dont have this topic with a blue push pin !!

I just found an intersting article on installing Linux from a network while you are still booted in XP.  It also has information on the Grub booting system, or boot loader for XP NTFS:


http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html#grub-for-nt

About Grub from the GNU pages:

GNU GRUB is a Multiboot boot loader. It was derived from GRUB, GRand Unified Bootloader, which was originally designed and implemented by Erich Stefan Boleyn.

Briefly, boot loader is the first software program that runs when a computer starts. It is responsible for loading and transferring control to the operating system kernel software (such as the Hurd or the Linux). The kernel, in turn, initializes the rest of the operating system (e.g. GNU).


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 October 06, 2005 2:56 PM

need help with video. I remember I had the problems with Knoppix. I may go to the expert option on the install to see  if I can check everything goes right, if I can configure it and run the GUI. I read 128 MB RAM is needed for it, but Knoppix run perfectly on mine. Any help (again) there whould be very appreciated.

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 October 07, 2005 7:27 AM



Pls tell us more about your setup, I havent personally had video problems for a while.

It could be that the video card makers have not cooperated w/ the e-mutualist community in providind data bout their chip.

I am a text person, so if video doesnt work, so be it.. lol
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 October 07, 2005 7:58 AM

I bend for the RAM thing...But anyway, I will use the base, it will be of most use anyway. If Knoppix worked, it was an older version. I will try to find an older distro of Linux... for my old computer. If I get Ubuntu to work, it will be slow for my taste.

By the way, I need feedback before I install Ubuntu on another computer with one HD, no partition (was in a hurry ), and Win 98 installed (and on that one I know will install "everything"). I plan to install next weekend (oct. 14-16).

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 October 07, 2005 8:14 AM

I don't quite understand, Rafael - are you having problems configuring your video card, or is it a software issue?

As John says, the more detail you can provide the more easily we can help you. Important details include: the make and model of your video card, and/or what Linux identifies it as; how much RAM you actually have; steps you've already tried.

Cheers!

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 October 07, 2005 9:15 AM

I was generalizing... sorry, I want as much help as I can, so I can learn, and if not useable now, maybe at some other moment . I believe I may have a few problems with the other computer, but with what I read from your links, threads there, what I not-hardly-at-all found on Ubuntu forums, and any help I get later, I may get it to work (I will ike to work with text, but also want to use GIMP, on Linux, and that's why I will like the GUI working

Eh.. to explain about your question, Sarah, and of John, I do not think it was the card, but the resolution's configuration (and other things related to video configuration), and the RAM (the comp. is 166mhz AMD, 49mb RAM, 2gb HD... yeah, I am extremely optimistic... ) The other is Pentium MMX 266mhz, 8 gb HD (2 used, want to partition 4gb), 256 mb RAM. about the cards, I may not have problems, I can solve that. Anyway, I don't want you to solve the problem, I just want feedback, links, etc, so I then continue by myself (so you can keep using your time with more things you may like, and I to learn), so I don't want to abuse your time with me.

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 October 07, 2005 9:51 AM

No problem, my friend. But there's so much information out there, it's difficult to find good links unless there's a specific question to answer.

When I need technical support for a distro, the first place I look is the official forum. You can search messages there to see if someone else has had the same problem, and perhaps the answer.

For Ubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php
For Knoppix: http://www.knoppix.net/forum/

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 October 07, 2005 10:33 AM

ook... I got you. About refferences, I meant ones that are clear, where people participates a lot (so one can get a response "fast"), like to "official" forums as you said. In one of them I found some help, but as I said, with my old one not much (productive) can be done I am so much optimistic, but what can I do...

Have a good weekend.

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 October 18, 2005 8:04 AM

Well... I can not learn as faster as I can if not by trial and error Soooo... (I do not know the phrase in english) my vain itched (the analogy of the feeling like a drug adict in need of the dosis), and decided to install Ubuntu without all the knowledge.

After the problems with my oldcomputer (which I may retly to install now ), I changed that one's HD to the other one, and when it began installing  the GUI, it stoiped 'cause no more free space on HD , then last weekend decided to install on the HD with no partition, which I could work it out very nice.

I got to know today (which I suspected) that the grub does not work... anyway, I installed the LILO, and boot from a floppy. Last night finally could install Ubuntu completly... BUT!! Did not configured the mouse...

Now I really need help with that... How can I manually configure everything related to the mouse (port, type, etc.) when everything else is well installed?

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 October 18, 2005 12:58 PM

Hey, slow down! We need more details again.

Have you changed the mouse since you installed Ubuntu, or is it that the same mouse isn't working now?

Have you got another mouse that does work (e.g. a USB one instead of PS/2) - and what kind of mouse do you want to configure?

It might be easiest to reinstall, ensuring that the mouse is recognised during the installation process. If you don't have a working mouse to navigate with, it's difficult to access the 'settings' menu.

Hope this makes sense - and remember, patience is a virtue. That's why I never make mistakes.


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 October 18, 2005 1:09 PM

I know, I have patience, and that's why I got to partition the disk without damaging Windows, and (FINALLY!!!) install Ubuntu. But right now I am tired, can'tthink of tecnical issues right now, so I may keep my work (at job and home) with graphics (BTW, expect soon a pair of drawings of the full moon in Hormigueros... I can't tell more, no words to describe them)

The mouse (IBM, two buttons and wheel, PS/2)was installed always, it is connected on serial port (the comp has two serial ports), connected with the converter to serial  it came with. I know about the problem to access the menu as you say, but my perception of what you wrote is, can't I do something from the command line?

...I have another regular mouse (serial, two buttons)...

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PS: October 18, 2005 1:19 PM

The mouse works, it is not the problem, I know it is the configuration... (I may needed to select "serial" from the instalation menu right? I just missed it, and did not wanted to go "back" during installation) but still I am told from a friend anyway it should have needed to recognize it automatically, the comp do not have a PS/2 port)

Moral:

Do not overwork 'til late at night, do something else at late hours (watch TV, read, play videogames)

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 October 19, 2005 12:36 AM

Sorry, I meant a mouse that "worked with Ubuntu" rather than "worked at all". But now you've said it's a serial mouse (at least for detection purposes), I think I can see what's up.

You could try pressing 'i' during start-up, to enter interactive mode. Then read the messages as they come up, and see if it detects your mouse.

Or open a terminal with Alt+F1, and edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf manually:

sudo
gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf

It requires only minor changes from

Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"


to

Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option "Protocol" "Auto"


And if that doesn't do it, try again with "dev/ttyS1".

Serial mice can be tricky, though. I once had to open the computer and physically change the port inside before it would work ...

I hate to say this after you've gone to so much trouble with Ubuntu, but if you can't get the mouse working at all: you might have to (a) buy a USB mouse, and USB card if you don't have a port; or (b) try another distro. Knoppix should work OK, or Vector (my current favourite).

Hope all that's clear enough, anyway. Good luck!

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 October 19, 2005 8:57 AM

USB... I don't have one

I let you know how things goes... thanks

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do I need to say more? October 20, 2005 7:50 AM

after a second reboot (as I say, I am extremlly optimistic...) it worked after the edition you told me.

It is now more comfortable with the GUI to learn Linux, as well as I will focus a great time on command line too.

now that I notice... the onlyhelp I needed was to configure the mouse!!! I may not be as as I thought Really, that means a lot to me... thanks both of you.

PS:

  Last night I was watching the baseball game at my cousin's bar, drinking Heineken and when I arrived at home worked with the mouse config... worked with some utilities (to familiarize) for half an hour, the booted Windows (for the alarm... it playsmy CDs/MP3s to wake me up and had the most pleasant night of the week)

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 October 20, 2005 8:41 AM

Well done, Rafael!!!

Really satisfying when it works out, isn't it?

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 October 20, 2005 1:50 PM

now I will start "playing" with installations , OpenOffice.org 2.0... first need to download 100mb...  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 June 08, 2006 5:43 PM

OK.  Let me read this again....  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
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