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'big business' April 30, 2005 12:11 AM

I've often wondered why 'big business' attracts so much hostility from activists. I had always thought that it was an inevitable result of capitalism and that it benefitted society overall. However, while it may make sense to concentrate strategic business decisions in the hands of fewer, more dedicated people, it does not make sense to concentrate ethical and moral decisions in the hands of those same people. They essentially operate in a moral vaccuum, as you only get in that sort of position by putting the bottom line above all else. They also appear to operate in a legal vaccuum, and break laws to the extent that they can get away with.

Is this the main reason, or is it more to do with their actions in foreign countries?

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Hostility? April 30, 2005 3:12 PM

Maybe big business attracts hostility because it doesn't give a xxxx about anything except profit  for shareholders (any poor people among them you think?) and the annual bonuses of the big bugs who get rich at the expense of the workers who actually produce the goods.  Just a notion.  Could be wrong.   [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 April 30, 2005 4:41 PM

That's what I have most trouble understanding, because they're not supposed to care. They are required by law to put shareholder profits first. While we can try to stop them gaining too much power in society and punish them if they step over the line, we will only frustrate ourselves if we try to get them to care.  [ send green star]
 
 May 01, 2005 4:41 PM

Corporations are required by law to put shareholder interests first. Shareholders vote upon those interests, although most sign over their proxie or simply fail to participate. Boycotts can make an impact on large corporations in a number of ways.

  • Negative press can lead to lowered new investment $$ or reduced shareholder confidence.
  • Boycotts get the attention of shareholders. Direct correspondence from shareholders supporting the aim of the boycott, in turn, gets the attention of the company.
  • Pressure on fund managers to divest unless Company X complies with Request Y can yield positive results, as well.

Many of us have pension or 401K plans which are invested in managed funds, rather than individual stock portfolios. I would suggest that you read carefully the most recent prospectus for the fund(s) your money is in. A well-reasoned letter to your fund managers indicating your disapproval of a company in the portfolio can do a lot of good, especially if you courtesy copy the offending company. (As an investor in the fund, you elevate yourself to the level of stakeholder, even though you may hold no shares as an individual.)
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 May 01, 2005 4:47 PM

The strategy is not to get corporations to care, but getting people to care, since people are shareholders are boards are corporations are strategies are effects etc. 

Large corporations are less trustworhty b/c they have more clout, more political influence, mroe ability to get away with bad behavior, etc.  Corporations are more dangerous than government b/c if they go bad, they are far more efficient and less accountable (we don't elect shareholders).  I'm all in favor of large corporations that are good and very scared of those that aren't. 

 

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Getting Big Business to care May 03, 2005 1:50 PM

If Big business was only in business to make money doing what they do best, they would be reasonable, and you could do something useful by boycotting them.  Unfortunately, they let politicians on their boards of governors, as vice presidents etc.  (see Michael Moore's film "Fahrenheit 9/11")

This means that big companies can go to war on their own account, to get oil, to get big contracts in putting back together what they destroyed themselves.  They can ruin our homes and the air we breathe by bribing our politicians to legislate against us.  The drug companies outlawed vitamin B12 as a drug anywhere in the US.  It doesn't do any harm to anyone much, except that it cures cancer, and the chemotherapy profiteers won't have that!

They can pay PR companies to lie about dioxins, fluoride and pcb's being good for you; that the tobacco companies didn't know that cigarettes give you cancer; that manipulating genes beyond the point of no return is perfectly safe.  They hire smart patent lawyers to steal your right to live normally.  I have no doubt that their next move is to sue you for giving birth naturally to a child that is healthy.

So, make what you can for yourself, buy only from your neighbour, work in cooperatives, swop services like letter writing in exchange for childminding, cooking for hairdressing, etc etc.  Barter what you have for what you want.  Give away what you don't need to someone who does.  Don't vote Republican for 10 years.  Think Green,  Love thy neighbour as thyself.

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B12? May 03, 2005 3:14 PM

That's crazy. I need it for help with ciguatera poisoning, and it is used by chronic fatigue sufferers. It is also used in hangover 'cures' and is given to recovering alcoholics because they are also very deficient in it. I often take one before a big night out just to be on the safe side.  [ send green star]
 
News worth noting: Congress and Excessive CEO Pay March 06, 2007 1:11 PM

Congress and Excessive CEO Pay US Politics & Gov't  (tags: congress, ethics, business, legislation, CEO, compensation )

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- 19 minutes ago - corporatepolicy.org:80

Compensation for top executives in the United States has soared from 30 to 40 times average worker pay a generation ago to over 400 times average worker compensation today.
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 March 06, 2007 4:40 PM

They may be required to put the shareholders first.  However, that should not mean abusing employees, and the othere abuses we see. 
Personally, I object to the abuse of employees, the BoDs getting insane bonuses while the people actually doing the work are struggling to make ends meet, the ignoring of laws when they can get away with it, the money above all else attitude...  Basicly, a complete lack of ethics and morals.
I have seen it happen in small companies too.  I have heard a small business owner tell the employees that he cannot afford to pay benefits, while at the same time he owns not just a second home, but multiple houses.
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