START A PETITION 25,136,189 members: the world's largest community for good
START A PETITION
x
 
 
anonymous Do Animals Love? July 05, 2005 6:37 AM

The Group has addressed the emotion of Love, an emotion almost all people agree exists - even though it is difficult to define.

Most would probably agree we can have true, deep love for our companion animals, especially dogs and cats - whom we have domesticated and altered over centuries.

But what do dogs and cats experience?

Is the affection†and attachment†they show us the same or akin to the emotion of love we feel?

Do cats and dogs experience "human" love?

 [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
hmmm July 05, 2005 12:08 PM

Well, I think we can clearly state that they experience some kind of love, but is it human love?

I'm compelled to say that human love comes from our advanced (compared to other animals, it would seem) abilities to perceive and interpret meaning; we create symbols for everything and these symbols can be very ceremonial for us-
Love, for many, (I don't know if this has soley everything to do with the 'biological clock') is the primary focus or goal in life: to find someone to love and share your life with...


I'm, therefore, compelled to say that it would seem that [other] animals do not have kinships on our level, for they do not apprehend phenomena with the same understanding.

Ofcourse... other animals could be more advanced than science has even begun to realize and perhaps could be capable of things we never dreamed...
 [ send green star]
 
Do cats and dogs experience "human" love? July 05, 2005 2:22 PM

A little different from the heading. No they do not experience Human Love -†I think we put far too many expectations on the ones we love, and self keeps getting in the way.
But do they Love? Oh yes! Way too many recorded incidents to say otherwise as far as I am concerned. We as Humans seem to be having a hard time trying to even figure out what it is in our terms LOL, I do not think they worry about it at all, just have it.
 [ send green star]
 
anonymous Do animals Love? July 05, 2005 2:50 PM

Before I add my thoughts on the subject of animals and do they love, I would like to thank Gru for the invite, at times I do have an eclectic thought process but hey that is what makes the world go round.

Here is my hypothesis on animals and love.I am of the opinion that animals give unconditional love. Unconditional love is something we humans have a hard time comprehending.We have an infamous way of wanting something in return for our love and if we do not get it we tend to retaliate in one form or another.Animals on the other hand you can give them little attention or lavish them with attention and they will keep on sharing themselves with you.

I have a beautiful cat Miss Crystal Magic and one day I was trimming her toenails when she looked up at me and meowed.I did not realize until I saw blood that I had cut her! Oh I was so devastated, I hurt my companion and friend yet she continued to allow me to keep clipping her nails. She still trusts me to clip her nails and I am extra careful not to slip. She is dependant on me for her needs and in return she has taught me the true meaning of unconditional love. Being empathic I actually feel love emanate from her. If we were to go into the quantum aspects everything has vibrations even thought patters. If an animal gives off similar vibrations as humans is it not then probable that animals do feel like we do?

 [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
IMHO Yes animals love ........ July 05, 2005 4:48 PM

Unconditionally, unlike humans who hide behind false faces and then attack when not even provoked and cause more harm to a human soul then they can ever know, all the while preaching respect and love and betterment for the country.. yadda yadda, pardon me if I wretch but that may be some folks sincere wish and dream but some just climb on the proverbial band wagon to dis others and piss and moan without understanding the concept of love.

Love encompases respect and understanding, and sensitivity all thsoe things animals do without concious thou8ght since to them we are their brethren, they our comfort givers and us their caretakers. a mutual bonding blend of love and trust.

The more I know of people the better I love my animals..

Nuff said I shan't name names or lower myself to the depths of ignorance of some who insist on driving some out of a place they sincerely wished only to learn, while offering a bit of humor from time to time to lighten the mood..

Not to worry Gru, you have a heart and as such tend to run a rather tight ship smoothing over things.. No this outrage is not within this place but another where a vile vindictive person seems to have begun†gathering a pack to assault†some folks†singly for not believing in things entirely their way....

Loathsome dispirited forms of life not entirely sure of their humanity..

JMHO ~Cat~

 [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 July 06, 2005 11:37 PM

I agree Fox, animals do offer unconditional love...at a level where it teaches and nurtures. Humans tend to love, but as an extension of their ego boundaries. Although, it is certainly possible to get beyond this into a more meaningful expression which includes acceptance, and the ability to put our expectations of others in better perspective.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous  July 08, 2006 8:25 PM

I love animals, and the animal that I have always loved the most is the horse. But in my childhood, I had to transition from reading The Black Stallion to taking riding lessons on my neighbor's black Shetland pony, Dan, who used to sometimes take me under a low hanging tree branch. (I always ducked in time, but I sometimes got scratched on my face.)

The Black Stallion, if you haven't read the books, was the leader of a hidden herd of wild horses on an island. He would allow a little boy to sit on his back and to ride on him without a saddle or bridle.

I sometimes rode with a girl who lived on a neighboring farm. She was full of sentimental ideas. She could not control her horse, Midnight. When she wanted him to slow down, she tried leaning forward and speaking into his ear. Actually, all she accomplished was to cause Midnight to have no respect for her. In the long run, she did him a disservice, since his next owner may have been more inclined to punish him harshly for his bad habits.

Now, I'm not saying that my horse didn't enjoy being scratched behind his ears and under his chin. I'm not saying that he didn't nicker and come up to the fence when I got off the school bus. I'm not saying I didn't feel a bond with him. I wouldn't call the bond love; but I would call it mutual trust, respect and affection.

That's horses. All animals are different. I feel that cats are very sensitive and emotional creatures who resonate with human emotions. Their mood and attitude changes in response to mine. I don't know if my cats love me, but their eyes seem sometimes to be filled with love.

I doubt very much if any snake has ever felt affection for its owner, but maybe even a reptile can get attached to a person. I read a true story of a turtle who always came to the top of its tank when the daughter in the family came home from college to visit. Somehow, it knew she was home and wanted to see her. Maybe it wanted to be fed by her. I don't know.
 [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous OF COURSE July 09, 2006 10:50 AM

Creator would never leave out the greatest Emotion created.

Have you ever sat in the middle of a litter of puppies?

Have a Cat or wild animal choose you out of the crowd?

Just my opinion, But i believe Love exist in all that is.....

Peace Keliihananui img10.gif (38556 bytes)

 [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
animals do love July 09, 2006 11:09 AM

Our friends in the animal kingdom know the true meaning of love,we can learn so much from them, and this is the problem with the human being we have so far removed ourselves from all our friends in the animal, mineral and nature kingdoms that we (not all thankfully) have the opinion that we are superior.Animals are not ours to eat, Animals are not ours to wear, Animals are not here for our entertainment, and they are most certainly not 'ours' to abuse. Love and respect to all who read this. Muriel.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 July 11, 2006 9:25 AM

Jennifer, haha, we have so much in common, including our love for horses

Although, horses are my second favourite animals, my first being the elephant


.. I do understand the last bit of what 'Daddy' wrote, and that is that love exists within all things... mind you... just because it's not a form of love we understand, doesn't mean it isn't of the same essence.

I read something interesting† on someone's myspace the other day... this might give us a whole new glimpse into 'love':

The Fight: What does it mean and where does it come from? An Essay: Homosapien. A man. He is alone in the universe. A punker. Still a man. He is alone in the universe, but he connects. How? They hit each other. No clearer way to evaluate whether or not you're alive. Now. Complications. A reason to fight. Somebody different. Difference creates dispute. Dispute is a reason to fight. Now, to fight is a reason to feel pain. Life is pain. So to fight with reason is to be alive with reason. Final analysis: To fight, a reason to live.


This person, in a certian way, almost makes even the most revolting things seem like a part of this large dance we're all engaged in; somethings are still beyond our humanly understandings, maybe, and that is: NO MATTER WHAT, IT'S ALL OKAY.

....
hard to grasp, isn't it?



 [ send green star]
 
Horses and Cats July 11, 2006 10:41 AM

Horses and Cats are my two favorite animals. I do think that the domesticated animals especially are learning to express the divine quality of Love through devotion to "their" people. All animals follow instinct, and are not, imo, intellectually evolved, but we do connect with animals on the emotional plane. Now, my understanding is that love is not an emotion, but that it can lead to an unfolding of the individual onto the plane of Love.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous MY HORSE "THE SAINT" July 11, 2006 11:23 AM

He sits down on his hind quarters like a human lol and puts his head on my chest like a big baby,,,lips† lookin for the treat lol† 18 hands of Thoroughbred that loves me.....

Keliihananui img10.gif (38556 bytes)

 [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
 July 11, 2006 5:14 PM

Hahah, well methinx words are just words; semantics are semantics, and from my understanding of emotion, all an emotion is, is something a person or animal feels, unmitigated, and undeniably.

Love, in and of itself; for lovers, friends, family and other creatures is the single most inexplicably amazing thing I can think of feeling....
I'd say nothing else really matters, in the end
 [ send green star]
 
anonymous VERY DEEP SIS July 12, 2006 8:41 AM

Nice pool...I once sat on a Mountain in Oregon and contemplated everything without lables..Meditation got deep, and suddenly It came to me>>>I was GODS spoken word..All of it Was Gods spoken word....A language of pure action....

Your right without the words its all action...and awsome and beautiful.....

Just thought i'd Share .

YDimg10.gif (38556 bytes)

 [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
 July 12, 2006 7:14 PM

Those are the kind of moments that humble and overjoy, all at the same time.


 [ send green star]
 
Animals July 13, 2006 10:10 AM

operate on instincts.† Looking at domestic animals...they attach themselves to their chosen 'family' and will defend, fight, and attack to protect them from outsiders.

God bless, J
 [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Judy July 13, 2006 10:26 AM

Yes, animals act on instinct and instinct is a quality of the emotional nature. It's through the emotions that we connect with animals, and love is not an emotion. At the same time, everything in this solar system is colored by love, so nothing can be very far from it. I think when we treat animals with affection and take care of them carefully and lovingly, they respond and somehow move onward along the consciousness continuum. Namaste, ND  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 July 13, 2006 10:27 AM

I don`t agree that animals can feel love. they act on insticts...just to survive and look to get their genes given further in the best way to the†next generation....there are lots of animals who kill their own puppies, when it comes up to hard times....

Dogs for example are kind of attched to humans cause they think the owner to be the leader of his pack....so he tries to be†obey.. to the leader...

just some ideas...

 [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 July 15, 2006 10:33 PM

I do believe that animals feel love, but not necessarily as we humans do.
Animals have instincts, which humans have long ago given up on. Cats will eat their young if they are ill or severely deformed, but yet they feel love...they will remain loyal to those who care for it and give it shelter. Dogs are extremely loving and loyal, and if you befriend one usually they will stick with you for the long haul.
So, yes I do believe animals truly love...just a bit differently than humans.

Amber  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Hard to say... July 16, 2006 5:02 AM

but they do appear to mourn at the loss of an entity close to them...

Something is there...

 [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous No Doubt July 16, 2006 5:16 AM

MY DOG MY DOG STANDS BY ME IN PROSPERITY AND IN POVERTY, IN HEALTH AND IN SICKNESS. MY DOG WILL SLEEP ON THE COLD GROUND, WHERE THE WINTRY WINDS BLOW AND THE SNOW DRIVES FIERCELY,IF ONLY HE MAY BE NEAR MY SIDE. HE WILL KISS THE HAND THAT HAS NO FOOD TO OFFER,HE WILL LICK THE WOUNDS AND SORES THAT COME IN ENCOUNTERS WITH THE ROUGHNESS OF THE WORLD. HE GUARDS MY SLEEP AS IF I WERE A PRINCE. WHEN ALL OTHER FRIENDS DESERT, HE REMAINS . WHEN RICHES TAKE WINGS AND REPUTATION FALLS TO PIECES, HE IS AS CONSTANT IN HIS LOVE AS THE SUN IN ITS JOURNEY THROUGH THE HEAVENS, IF FORTUNE DRIVES ME FORTH AN OUTCAST IN THE WORLD,FRIENDLESS AND HOMELESS,MY FAITHFUL DOG ASK NO HIGHER PRIVILEGE THAN THAT OF ACCOMPANING ME TO GUARD AGAINST DANGER,TO FIGHT AGAINST MY ENEMIES,AND WHEN THE LAST SCENE OF ALL COMES, AND DEATH TAKES ME IN ITS EMBRACE AND MY BODY IS LAID AWAY IN THE COLD GROUND, NO MATTER IF ALL OTHER FRIENDS PURSUE THIER WAY, THERE BY MY GRAVESIDE WILL MY NOBLE DOG BE FOUND,HIS HEAD BETWEEN HIS PAWS, HIS EYES SAD BUT OPEN IN ALERT WATCHFULNESS, FAITHFUL AND TRUE EVEN IN DEATH...............

Peace Keliihananui img10.gif (38556 bytes)

 [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
 July 23, 2006 6:45 AM

Clarity may be more evident if the definition of Love were universal... it is not. not here apparently. ...and the dictionary's definition is relevant as to how the word, 'love' is used in the english language, and not neccessarily what IT is.

Do animals partake in emotional qualities? yes, I believe so... to what extent remains unclear.

The transcendant aspect of the concept of Love, is as a noun.† the common usage of the term, is as a verb... so there ya go...

OM Shanti

 [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 24, 2006 10:13 PM

It is good to see that what ever issue who is coming up. The care2-family is always tending the arguments that lead to more tolerance, rationality or universalism.

I think this is a sign of the time. The human rationality is accelerating. For 100 years ago we accepted racism and social sentiment. But the world is getting smaller and smaller. I think soon people will also stand against the unhealthy accumulation of wealth. That someone has 100 billions of dollars while other is starving from death in a world that physical wealth is limited. Our mind is bringing us more and more to oneness and understanding. The human being will become one. Our consciousness will lift up all the downtrodden people and move together.

 [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 24, 2006 10:33 PM

Has the human consciousness is accelerating, more and more people is waking realizing that the animal has been underestimated. Developed animal have deep love and care.

The fundamental different is that they donít has any universal and devotional love, and they canít rise their kundalinii. But many people to day are not using characteristic human consciousness, which make then different from human. If you are spending your life for only sleeping, eating and sex, without any spiritual effort then you are in some way lower then an animal, because the animals have no universal feeling.

 [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 September 27, 2006 3:20 AM

It is nice to see that what ever issue who is coming up, the care2-people is always tending to use the arguments that lead to more tolerance, rationality or universalism. I think this is a sign of the time that the human rationality is accelerating. For 100 years ago we accepted racism and social sentiment. So the world is getting smaller and smaller. One day we will also rise up against the unhealthy and greedy accumulation of wealth. Someone has 100 billions of dollars while other is starving from death in a world that physical wealth is limited. Our mind is bringing us more and more to oneness and understanding. The human being will become one. Our consciousness will lift up all the downtrodden people and move together. As the human consciousness is accelerating, more and more people are realizing that the animal has been underestimated. Developed animal have deep love and care. The fundamental different is that they donít has any universal and devotional love, and they canít rise their kundalinii. But many people to day are not using characteristic human consciousness, which make then different from human. If you are spending your life for only sleeping, eating and sex, without any spiritual effort then you are in some way lower then an animal, because the animals have no universal feeling. [ send green star] [ flag for review]  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Love September 29, 2006 2:54 PM

Where does love come from?† As our consciousness raises to a level beyond materialism and into a more psyche level, we will find new consciousness of many emotions and feelings.† Love is much deeper than the surface feelings.

Animals operate on intuition and that level is deeper than the surface, material level.

God bless, J
 [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Skidboot a very special dog. October 11, 2006 9:48 AM

Just wanted to share this one - not exactly for anyone on dial up, but if you have DSL or cable, well worth the watch.†The movie†is 7 1/2 minutes long

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&q=skidboot&hl=en

 [ send green star]
 
  New Topic              Back To Topics Read Code of Conduct

 

This group:
The ULTIMATE Philosophy group: Open-minded, at times abstract.
182 Members

View All Topics
New Topic

Track Topic
Mail Preferences