Excerpt: "Every disease, every calamity, every failure, every neurosis has its symbolic content. The symbolic content enters the soul through the locus of misfortune or the wound of the body, and then it becomes the task of the soul to make friends with this stranger in its midst. There may be a struggle, but ultimately it is not a struggle but an expansive process with a releasing effect as if one grows beyond one's former boundaries and the whole psychic system reaches toward infinity. The crisis actually made the process possible. It was the calamity that befell that gave us a glimpse of the void. It opened a slit to another world and we saw into that which lies beyond. The trauma weakens the boundaries between man and the archetypal world. As a result, when the healing finally takes place, he is not merely restored to his former self. He is recreated and is now a larger person than he was before. (7)
Inner life begins to open up: when one looks inside, there is no longer the opaque blackness, but a rich field of experience filled with entities who long for attention or worship. This does much to alleviate feelings of isolation and despair, providing that one has proper guidance in this realm. This guiding force also emerges from the unconscious:
The unconscious, through dreams and through its manifestations in everyday life, provides all the information we need to know. The unconscious, with its ingenious way of symbolizing, sets the picture before us: this is how it is, there are these and these obstacles, but there is a chance of breaking through to a new position with a wider perspective. Or the unconscious may place violent objections in the path, warning of disaster if the stirring up of archetypal material is encouraged to continue.(8)
Individuation requires the balancing, objective viewpoint of another who not only cares for your soul, but is intimately familiar with the recurrent themes of archetypal processes. This helps the ego to avoid becoming possessed by any given pattern. Both commitment and will are required in the process, for once begun, it must be followed through to its goal, lest one be lost forever in the abyss of the transcendent imagination. New discoveries must not only be made, but assimilated. As in Magic, there must be concurrent experience, and psychological insight concerning the meaning of the experience. The individual meaningfulness of an experience is what creates the unique personality of those with an awareness of the self. The instinctive feeling of significance is expanded upon by rooting experiences in their mythical patterns.
The ego must never presume to wield power over the unconscious lest it provoke a reactionary attack for this spiritual pride. This inflation disturbs the progress of the work by returning the ego to the unconscious state of identifying itself with the powers and potency of the unconscious. This control fantasy is the basis of many neuroses. Some might call it "black magic." "
This topic interest me immensely!! February 26, 2007 3:14 PM
Can this apply to dream symbology too? I have been having the deepest dreams and thoroughly symbolic in terms of archatypes - hmmmmmm - just since joining this group and being able to relate the Goddesses that I am one with.
Right now I am chillin in the deep seat of the root chakra sort of celebrating 'the way we get to talk here'... gulp, and every time I ride on down looking at all the welcomes thread and see the images there - there is always one that utterly SPEAKS TO ME like today it was the goddess in potery with the infinity symbol as her womb/lower chakras!!
gotta go right now - will be back to this thread soon!!
NAMASTE,
Brenda - Virgo Earth ~ Welsh Fire Keeper ~ Idaho red-neck scarf ~ well I don't know maybe we should just skip the USA part although I am one with a Goddess of Justice in my dreams... and beyond (where I am most unlimitd and therefore comfortable...) whom I call the Cosmic Femi9 the very harbor of all that is...
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although i disagree with him on a few points, he basically saved my life.
it all started with a recurring dream of being bitten by a snake... i would never now what kundalini was if it were not for him. if you have not read his autobiography, it is truly great.
i work primarily with primoridial goddesses and mainly Inanna/Ishtar. I you study their mythology and the decent via the seven gates and the stripping of the layers of persona, etc. we wear, you will come face to face with the personal subconscious in order to get to the collective unconscious. this is to enter the gate of the other worlds, including the underworld where the magic happens--the path of the shaman. that is why i use the analogy of the sumerians myths and that image on my profile now is Inanna after she has gone through the seven steps of the initiation facing her dark sister, Ereshkigal and about to enter the subconcious and pay her karmic debt... whew! yep, that's me about right now!
if you feel deeply attached to an archetype you will invoke it and it will envelope you and your life will become a parallel with that myth... this I CAN SAY FROM EXPERIENCE!
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The path of Individuation is the psychological equivalent of initiation. The goal of individuation is self-realization through increasing conscious relationship with the Self, archetype of wholeness. This Self includes both positive and negative traits of an individual which, in the beginning of analysis, are generally projected out, or attributed to, the environment. As the ego continues its heroic journey through the labyrinthine psyche, it comes into confrontation with personifications of various archetypal characters. During the maturing process, these characters emerge from the undifferentiated mass of unconscious contents. Though their presence in the psyche was implied from the beginning, they begin to unfold in unique patterns in the life of the individual.
One meets such intriguing archetypal figures (complexes) as the shadow, persona, hero, anima/animus, puer, wise old man, trickster, great mother, healer, divine child, self, etc. When these figures, and their behavior patterns, remain unconscious, they are projected onto other people, as "my enemy," "my great love," "my wise teacher," etc. In time the analysist learns to distinguish these recurrent patterns from the personalities of the people with whom he is involved. Another way these patterns lay claim to an individual and exert their influence is through the identification of the ego with the archetype. Then we have cases of "I am the great lover," "I am the great teacher of wisdom," or "I am especially gifted and prodigious."
Using Tree of Life pathworking techniques as a mode of creative imagination, personified forms are encountered as gods or goddesses, and the aspirant comes to a conscious relationship with them, both internal and external. He learns to recognize them when he sees them. Most importantly, he has a framework for experiencing these internal personalities as distinct from his individuality; they are, after all, collective patterns which can manifest in anyone under the proper circumstances. This attempt leads to self-realization through the transcendent function, which is a symbol of the union of opposites. In Magick, it is known as the Holy Guardian Angel.
We are not alone. We are not totally encased in our ego-selves. There is a companion, a comrade, a guardian angel, a greater self who is always with us. When looked at in this way, it is seen at once that individuation is more than behavior modifying oneself out of bad habits. Individuation is a religious endeavor. (5)
This is no way to finally dispose of undesirable qualities or weaknesses. Rather it is a method of coming to conscious knowledge of the gamut of motivations and possible behavior of which one is capable. It is a process of rebalancing psychic functioning, integrating the fragments of archetypal patterns which underlie human existence.
It is not the road for all. Frequently those who choose to pursue it are impelled by depression, illness, breakdown of current adaptation to reality, or stagnation. The unconscious manifestations demand attention in a form the ego cannot ignore indefinitely. One does not choose the path of individuation, but rather is chosen by it. If the ego can withstand the temptations, ordeals, and peril at the hands of the unknown, it is eventually rewarded with an expanded experience of self and a rejuvenation, or rebirth.
Wonderful article!
Actually I was just thinking: Our ability to plan for the future rests in the present; the present is clouded by the past...Thus,the need to breakout of the cycle. Not an easy feat!
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These are Jungian terms used to describe parts of the psyche. They are etymologically related to words like "animated" and "animous" and "animosity".
The word animus in Latin means soul, spirit or courage. You can see that if we use the word "animosity" to mean "bitter hostility or open enmity; active hatred", as according to the dictionary, then the "courage" aspect of the animus or soul is being emphasized and has "gone wrong". This is a key to understanding the woman's animus, her inner male.
The word anima is more lately derived and may be the matter of going back and adding a feminine Latin ending to animus, to become anima. This represents the inner female found within the psyche of a male.
Jung himself did not expect everyone to understand his concepts of the animus and the anima, and particularly not men, I think, but we can explore this concept and gain much self knowledge as we endeavor to understand it to the best of our abilities.
one of the few things I disagree with Jung on is that I believe a woman also has an anima and a man has an animus, just me... this is a pretty good link even though she is straight Jung...
Excerpt from a very good but very long article... April 08, 2008 10:39 AM
The Prima Materia
The reverent artifex began with the prima materia, the "first matter," the "orphan," the chaotic source substance, "found in filth," out of which all creation supposedly formed. And this material was what? No one knows. Probably not even the alchemists knew. But their descriptions of it match those of an unconscious content ready to enter awareness--a "point at issue," as M. Ester Harding put it. They intuited in fantasy what they couldn't locate chemically.
Because four elements - earth, air, fire, and water - composed the prima materia, purifying any metal amounted to changing the relative proportions of those elements until they matched those of silver, a noble substance, or gold, the noblest (and, in psychological symbolism, the most conscious or transformed). According to the sulphur-mercury theory, built on that of the four elements, purified sulphur mixed with purified mercury made gold, the perfect metal. But the "true imagination" of the reflective alchemist provided the key ingredient - and welded the psyche's activities to the sparks and gasses of the work in the laboratory. Metal and alchemist suffered purification together.
Into an egg-shaped retort, the unum vas, vas bene clausum ("well-sealed vessel"), or vas Hermeticum (also called the "uterus"), went the prima materia, there to cook on a low flame. This corresponds to holding the rising unconscious experience or set of experiences firmly in awareness and "heating" or "cooking" it with meditation (meditatio) and fantasy (or with Jung's active imagination). Containment also includes grasping the process with the help of concepts (theoria). Meditatio senses the material, theoria grasps it.
According to the legendary Maria Prophetissa, a Neoplatonist alchemist of the third century, the whole secret is in knowing the vessel. It must be thick so its boiling contents won't get away (projection, symptoms, psychosis). It must focus its heat on its center, aided by reflux condensers and the retort called the pelican, in which the distillate runs back into the belly. Put psychologically: in the sturdy vessel of an ego purged of personal issues, the contained nonego self can undergo transformation. Properly heated, the prima materia split into its four constituting elements (divisio elementorum). As the Axiom of Maria tells us, "One becomes two, two becomes three, and out of the third comes the one as the fourth." Concentrating on a surfacing experience separates the mutual contamination of its components into the categories imposed by consciousness: here/there, up/down, left/right, light/dark. The four elements also recall Jung's four orienting functions of the ego: thinking, feeling, sensation, and intuition.
But fire and meditation soon bring about the first coniunctio oppositorum, or the reunification of prima materia split into its opposites: Sol (consciousness) with Luna (the unconscious, as personified by the anima), ego with id (body), male with female, sulphur and salt, spirit and nature, heaven and earth, Logos and Eros, son and mother. The increasing heat of awareness fuses the unconscious content, divided and differentiated by a conceptualizing consciousness, into a new, partly conscious substance. King and queen join incestuously (which can symbolize self-union) and thereby give birth to something new.
Jungian definitions: Alchemy: The chemistry from prehistory until the 17th century, in which laboratory experiments were combined with intuitive, pictorial, partly religious experiences about nature and man. Many symbols which we recognize today as contents of the unconscious were project onto matter, onto the prima materia. The alchemist sought the "secret of God" in the primary material and, in doing so, developed methods and process which resemble those of modern depth psychology.
Prima materia: In alchemy the primary matter which has not yet been transformed.
"what you resist persist" Does this happen because we fail to understand we are resisting a part of oneself? it is our certain behavior cause things happen the way we do not like. To take full responsibility in life. How do others think
That's a good question Cherry April 09, 2008 9:31 AM
The answer is probably different for each person. It is an idea to think about. I find in my life I continually try to resist chaos while at the same time undertanding that it is a part of life.
While I don't recommend allowing chaos to conquer I am learning to embrace the element of chaos and trust the divine energy behind it rather than trying to always maneuver and control my life's circumstances.
It could apply to a variety of things and I am not a psychiatrist but I have tried to find shamanic ways of dealing with things like grief, depression, anger and all of those tabu things that we aren't 'supposed to' admit that we have in this society... I posted a related article here KHAOS.
A Jungian perspective would be to go inside that feeling and explore it rather than try to sweep it under the carpet or cover it up with Prozac or whatever the latest drug is they are shoving down people's throats... In Jung's autobiography he talks about how his depression led to some of his greatest insights and profound creativty because he dove into it... I believe that some of our feelings of depression are God/Higher Self telling us to changes. Communicating with the subconscious takes time and focused intentional energy--it is an investment.
This could apply to us as individuals and as a society. The video mentioned terrorism, that we continue to feed and create it by having a war against it. The same could be said for our attitudes toward nudity in that perhaps it has created the pornography industry... as mentioned in this thread Wholesome Bodily Attitudes
Perhaps men in general resist their own femininity... their anima or vice versa...
The intent here is to show that there are other ways of dealing with our problems in a more feminine way as opposed to. I believe in general unless people know there is an alternative way from the status quo to approach these issues they don't use them, thus this thread. Outside of that, the subconscious mind develops patterns that are difficult to break. I hope I answsered your questions to some degree...
thanks for the answer and for the info here It is nice to meet people have same interest. for me I feel i was dragged by fate rather than being chosed to do self discover work. Psychology work is hard for it require to look the dark side. Spiritual work is delight , it is light work. In the end the 2 work might meet in a place called self ^_^
There are a lot of folks who believe the subconscious is the doorway to the higher dimensions. I am one of them. I think the original reason I posted that one video is because our society has a fear of "chaos" which is a natural law and is associated with the Goddess. I sense we are moving into chaos on the planet and believe we need to learn how to flow with it and get spiritual guidance from within during these times rather than fearing it so much. That's all...
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"Crying from the depths of the chaos of this world, the wisdom-woman Sophia calls out to the alchemists of our age. Depth-psychology has indeed served as one of the principal avenues through which this redemptive project has been made known. The time may be approaching, and may in fact have come already, when potential alchemists in various disciplines and spiritual traditions may address themselves to this universal task of alchemical liberation. In 1950 Jung was greatly encouraged when Pope Pius XII used several manifestly alchemical allusions, such as "heavenly marriage", in Apostolic Constitution, "Munificentissimus Deus", the official document declaring the dogma of the assumption of the Virgin Mary, (the Catholic Sophia). In our time alchemy has come into its own, and beginning with the most recent two decades Gnosticism has begun its return journey also. The stone that the builders rejected is moving ever closer to the structure of Western culture.
In the garden of Jung's country home in Bollingen stands a large cube-shaped stone inscribed by his own hand with magical and alchemical symbols. In his last revelatory dream prior to his death, Jung saw a huge round stone engraved with the words "And this shall be a sign unto you of Wholeness and Oneness". Perhaps these signs of the wondrous stone of the great work will serve to remind the many whose lives and souls were touched by the Swiss Wizard, of the great work to be done, the great miracle to be accomplished. It is to be hoped that such an awakening of mindfulness will please Carl Gustav Jung in the far land to which he journeyed, and that it will assist those who are still in this sub-lunar world in their search for the quintessence, the stone of the philosophers and the supreme good."
Carl Jung - "Matter of Heart" - 145 min April 30, 2008 9:11 AM
Documentary on the famous
Swiss psychoanalyst, Carl Gustav Jung, featuring interviews with those
who knew him and archive footage of Jung. Discusses some of this
perspectives and how he was marginalized by history.
The C.G. Jung institute of Lost Angeles.
If you can hang with it this is a phenomenal film which delves into all of Jungs principles and explains it it ways we can relate... ~D
"Both
of us [Pauli and Jung] seem to agree that the future of Jung's ideas is
not with psychotherapy ... but with a unitarian, holistic concept of
nature and the position of man in it."
Jung observed that Philemon and other figures of his fantasies gave him
crucial insights. To this end he referred to things in the psyche,
which he could produce, but which could produce themselves, as having
their own life. Philemon represented a force that was other than
himself, much like a channeler or medium in today's world gets
information from allegedly a source from the other side. he greatly
enjoyed these conversations as a learning tool.
Psychologically, Philemon represents superior insight to Jung.
To those who do not study metaphysics, Philemon might be perceived as a
figment of Jung's imagination, or a reflection of a mental illness.
Jung did not consider himself insane. He believed that Philemon was a
source of legitimate information, whose validity could be tested in
fact. This opened the door to his theory of a collective
unconsciousness, a type of library, if you will, containing everything
ever known and recorded, replete with archetypes and active principles
that interacted between that source and human consciousness.
Jung's book Thus Spoke Zarathustra (Also Sprach Zarathustra) chronicles the wanderings and teachings of Zarathustra, Zoroaster, the ancient Persian prophet who founded Zoroastrianism.
Zarathustra
Jung believed that the cosmos contained the divine light or life, but
this essence was enmeshed in a mathematical trap, presided over by a demiurge,
Lucifer, the Bringer of Light. Lucifer contained the light inside this
reality, until a time when it would be set free. The first operation of
alchemy therefore addressed itself to the dismemberment of this
confining structure, reducing it to the condition of creative chaos.
From this, in the process of transformation, the true, creative
binaries emerge and begin their interaction designed to bring the
alchemical union. In this ultimate union, says Jung, the previously
confined light is redeemed and brought to the point of its ultimate and
redemptive fulfillment.
It's interesting that Carl Jung said he had a spirit guide, I also could "feel" my spirit guide, about a few years ago,a woman tell me she saw my spirit guide, an old wise man, very much looks like the picture above... at that time I am very much into my illusion of my ego wants... But I feel she didn't tell me the lie...
In these few years,I feel there is one among the stars guide my journey, and he is much wiser than many earthly masters/authority figures...for example when I study Buddhism and listen to some famous masters but soon I feel I grow out of their scope I start believe that inside me there a voice either from my true self which is pure light or from a very wise guide
I am definitly know I am not insane, for this guide bring me to a new horizon of myself, I am much more mature and peace than a few years before....This remains my sweet secret for a few years.