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Hot Dogs, Salami & Bacon-Why not to eat them!
7 years ago

I would never even if I was very hungry eat a normal hot dog; I have eaten vege ones on occasion that come from the health food store but even these are not something I am very interested in as they are still highly processed.

OK here are some interesting facts about the hot dog.

This first one is from http://www.news-medical.net/?id=9375 

Eating hot dogs increases risk of pancreatic cancer

Medical Studies/Trials  Published: Wednesday, 20-Apr-2005

Heavy consumption of hot dogs, sausages and luncheon meats, along with other forms of processed meat, was associated with the greatest risk of pancreatic cancer in a large multiethnic study reported today at the 96th Annual Meeting of the American Association for Cancer Research.

The researchers found that the heavy consumption of processed meats resulted in the highest risk for pancreatic cancer, after adjusting for age, smoking status, history of diabetes, familial history of pancreatic cancer and ethnicity. Those who consumed the greatest amount of processed meats had a 67 percent increase in risk over those participants with the lowest intake of this food category. A diet rich in pork and red meat also increased pancreatic cancer risk by about 50 percent, compared to their counterparts who ate less meat.

This next one is from and has the full article: http://www.preventcancer.com/patients/children/hotdogs.htm

Childhood Cancer Risk

Q. What's wrong with hot dogs?

A. Nitrite additives in hotdogs form carcinogens.
Petition to ban nitrites Three different studies have come out in the past year, finding that the consumption of hot dogs can be a risk factor for childhood cancer.

Researchers Sarusua and Savitz studied childhood cancer cases in Denver and found that children born to mothers who consumed hot dogs one or more times per week during pregnancy has approximately double the risk of developing brain tumors. Children who ate hot dogs one or more times per week were also at higher risk of brain cancer.

Bunin et al, also found that maternal consumption of hot dogs during pregnancy was associated with an excess risk of childhood brain tumors.

Q. How could hot dogs cause cancer?

A.
Hot dogs contain nitrites which are used as preservatives, primarily to combat botulism. During the cooking process, nitrites combine with amines naturally present in meat to form carcinogenic N-nitroso compounds. It is also suspected that nitrites can combine with amines in the human stomach to form N-nitroso compounds. These compounds are known carcinogens and have been associated with cancer of the oral cavity, urinary bladder, esophagus, stomach and brain.

7 years ago

Now here are some photos that may make you think about eating hot dogs.

This is from: http://www.newstarget.com/PhotoTour_Mystery_Meat_13.html

Oscar Mayer Smokies Coarse Ground Wieners ingredients

(Front label claims "Quality Meat, No Fillers")
Pork
Water
Beef
Contains less than 2% of:
Corn syrup
Salt
Sodium lactate
Flavor
Sodium phosphates
Monosodium glutamate
Sodium diacetate
Sodium erythorbate (made from sugar)
Sodium nitrite
Soy lecithin

".......we're going to take a close look at Oscar Mayer Smokies (coarse ground wieners). These are common hot dogs I purchased at Wal-Mart for the purpose of taking these photos. They filled my kitchen with processed meat odors, and I found it hard to do this photography without gagging, but that's probably because I don't eat processed meats.

Here's a 1x magnification showing some of the texture inside the Oscar Mayer Smokies. To take this photo, I simply tore open one of the wieners and pointed the camera at it."

A NewsTarget PhotoTour by Mike Adams



Here's a 3x magnification photo showing some of the detail inside the Oscar Mayer wiener. It's not exactly appetizing to me, but who knows? Maybe some folks get really hungry seeing this stuff. I personally find it disgusting.


This is a 2x magnification photo showing the various "caves" and textures inside the Oscar Mayer wiener. It's basically just ground up pork bits. I call it "Mystery Meat" because it's a mystery to me why anyone would want to eat it...This photo is a 4x magnification of a particular visual element I found fascinating. There's some sort of dark red speckle of meat parts surrounded by stringy fat blobs. Time for lunch!

This photo shows a close-up of a pair of sharp tweezers grasping a blob of fat (or something else I cannot readily identify) found inside the Oscar Mayer wiener. Looks delicious, huh? Run down to your local Wal-Mart and you, too, can buy this stuff!

7 years ago

The below is from: http://www.ralphmoss.com/hotdog.html 

CANCER RISKS LURK IN HOT DOGS AND BURGERS

From The Cancer Chronicles #22 © July 1994 by Ralph W. Moss, Ph.D.

Sara Sarasua and David A. Savitz of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill studied the eating habits of 440 children, 234 of whom had cancer, as well as of their mothers during pregnancy. These facts "jumped out":

  • Children who ate 12 hot dogs per month had a 9.5 times increased risk of leukemia.
  • Children who ate hot dogs once a week doubled their chances of brain tumors; twice a week, they tripled it.
  • The children of men who ate franks often had an 11 times greater risk of leukemia than normal.
  • Women who ate hot dogs during pregnancy doubled their offsprings chances of developing brain cancer

    And from: http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/68058.php

    Eating Bacon And Hot Dogs Linked To Higher Risk Of Lung Disease  17 Apr 2007   

    A US study has linked eating cured meat like bacon and hot dogs with increased risk of lung disease.

    The study is published in the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine and examines the link between frequent consumption of cured meats and impaired lung function in terms of the increased odds of chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD).
  • 7 years ago
     Spooky C. StarsButterfliesGold Notes Yes Indeed! 

    Hot dogs are one of the very worst things you can eat! Along w/doughnuts and soda pop.

    I wish I had the article now, and I will look for it, but those 3 along with some others were linked to cancer. The article said the sugar and fat content in tose food items were things even potential cancer cells love to feed of of!

    http://ezinearticles.com/?The-Five-Worst-Foods-to-Ever-Eat-and-Why!&id=807069

      [ send green star]

    7 years ago
    Oh wow! Thanks for the detailed info on hotdogs Diana! Sure is a BIG eye opening topic for me since I'm a HOT DOG lover. Gee! To think I have to give it up...now what am I going to do with the 5 packets of delicious looking with different flavor of hotdogs thats in the fridge. Sob! Sob! For a bachelor to lose his fast cooking meat...sure is tough! But for health wise, better to be wiser!
    Anonymous
    7 years ago
    My husband eats hotdogs and proccessed meats   and knows all that they contain / how they are made and just doesn't care. So gross!
    7 years ago

    I've seen those pictures below.  I have not touched hot dogs in years!

    6 years ago
    As summer is approaching it is for some hot dog roasting time and so I have brought this out of the archives to educate.
    Sodium Nitrite
    6 years ago

    Have not eaten hot dogs as well as bacons, lunch meats, salami, pepperoni and whatever containing sodium nitrite in several years due to the fact I learned that sodium nitrite is carcinogenic. Here's a link at http://www.naturalnews.com/007024.html that emphasizes more about sodium nitrite. Yet, there are some natural chicken as well as turkey sausages that does not have this dangerous chemical or preservative and are delicious. For me, it's well worth taking my time reading the labels and I avoid buying anything containing unsafe chemicals and preservatives. Here's another link you can read at http://recipes.howstuffworks.com/question233.htm

    There is a book called, "Grocery Warning" (http://www.TruthPublishing.com/GroceryWarning.html) though I've not yet read it ,however, in the early 70's I did read a book called, Consumer Beware! Your Food and What's Been Done to It by Beatrice Trum Hunter (Paperback - Mar 1972)that gave me great insight.
    Bacon
    5 years ago

    Thank you Pam; yes I too never consume any of those what I call non-foods.

    I was inspired by a post by Tom in Staying Healthy Over 40 - Discuss to find some information that may inspire him to change breakfast.

    Here is wome food for thought about bacon:

    Bacon link to bladder cancer risk
     
    A potential health hazard?
    Getting too hooked on a daily bacon sandwich may increase the risk of bladder cancer, research suggests.

    Harvard scientists found people who ate bacon at least five times a week were 59% more likely to develop the disease than those who never did.

    ....Nitrosamines, chemicals which are often found in processed meats and in particularly high levels in bacon, are known to be carcinogenic in high quantities.

    Heterocyclic amines, also known carcinogens, form when meat is cooked at high temperatures.

    For the full article go to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/6194502.stm

    Could eating sausages and bacon cause bowel cancer? 10-Apr-08
    Eating just one sausage or three rashers of bacon a day can increase your risk of bowel cancer by a fifth, newspapers reported last week.

    Consuming just 50g (1.8oz) of processed meat on a daily basis can increase risk of the deadly cancer by 20 per cent, but much of the population is unaware of the link.

    The link could be caused by the nitrite added to processed meats to kill off bacteria. Nitrite can react with the degradation products of amino acids in the meat, to form nitrosamines or nitrosamides, collectively known as N-nitroso compounds, said the WCRF. These can form in the meat during curing or while in the stomach. N-nitroso compounds have been shown to be carcinogenic. from: http://www.healthcarerepublic.com/news/GP/801144/eating-sausages-bacon-cause-bowel-cancer/

    Processed Meat Increases Colonic Cancer RiskAugust 26th, 2008 · No Comments yet, your thoughts are welcome

    The traditional English breakfast, the fry up, has yet more bad press. In addition to the problems of its high salt, high fat, high cholesterol and it generally being very bad for you - it is commonly referred to as being a “heart attack on a plate”, researchers have discovered that eating too much processed meat, which includes sausages and bacon, causes a 63 per cent higher risk of developing bowel cancer. Bowel cancer is on of the biggest cancer killers in the UK and USA, but it is often overlooked, with lung cancer and breast cancer receiving most attention.

    The evidence is so strong the World Cancer Research Fund suggests that we should pretty much give up processed meats completely. The WCRF warned that eating 150g of processed meat a day  -  equivalent to about two sausages and three rashers of bacon  -  increases bowel cancer risk by 63 per cent.

    Medical and scientific expert for the World Cancer Research Fund, Professor Martin Wiseman, said:

    “For some people, having a fry-up with bacon and sausages might seem like a good way to start the day. But if you are doing this regularly, then you are significantly increasing your risk of bowel cancer, which is one of the most common cancers in the UK. Only a third of people are aware of the link between processed meat and cancer. This means two-thirds are not in a position to make an informed choice about how much of it they eat.” Professor Martin Wiseman, 2008

    For the full article go to: http://www.motleyhealth.com/articles/2008/08/daily-sausage-and-bacon-causes-colonic-cancer.html

    Anonymous
    5 years ago

    I've had my fill of hotdogs and salami for a lifetime.  If I hadn't given them up on my own these articles and photos would have done it for me!  Thanks!   I'm still holding onto my bacon on my once in awhile pizza....   one out of three ain't bad! 

    3 years ago

    I cannot even eat one bite of any of these....not even on a pizza!

    3 years ago

    Thanks for this thread - valuable information.

    Processed meats
    2 years ago

    There is a lot of good information in this thread.  I agree that these products can be bad.  I would like to point out that in most of these studies the people consumed hotdogs frequently (usually weekly or more).  Many popular foods can be dangerous long term when consumed in large quantities, or too frequently.  My personal philosophy is eating in moderation, both variety and quantity.  I personally do not have a problem eating hotdogs on occasion and I currently work for Sara Lee making Ball Park hotdogs.  While I can not speak for any other brand, or even our sister facilities, I can say that our facility only uses quality meat.  Rumors about all the different things in hotdogs is completly untrue (at least in ours).  We do add nitrites to our products and they have high salts and fats so I do not suggest eating them weekly.  I am fairly new to these forums and am glad to see this kind of awareness.  I hope my comments help.

    Anonymous
    2 years ago

    I guess I'm very lucky to have a high sensitivity to nitrates, MSG, sulfates (+bi & meta) etc. I couldn't eat food additives even if I wanted to. When I was a child, I loved hot dogs and ate a lot of canned & packaged food. I had 'unexplained' problems. It wasn't until I tried vegetarianism as a young teen that the problems cleared up and I put 2&2 together. No more migraines, unreasonable fatigue, anxiety attacks, nervous breakdowns or hives. Of course maturity also helped, but even at the age of 16 it was apparent that the food additives were a danger.

    Hot Dogs, Salami & Bacon-Why not to eat them
    2 years ago

    If I wasn't already a vegetarian I think after reading this I would be, thanks for a very interesting article

    2 years ago

    The skin on the sausage or hot dog or salami can actually choke a child. This is why you can get skinless hot dogs or frankfurters. They all taste yuk. You can taste the loads of fat in the salami as well as the sausages. The hot dog doesnt even look like nutritious food. It looks manufactured and its red which sends kids prone to going hypers, do just that. I find hot dogs awful and as for sausages gosh they have to be organic and no additives or preservatives either and most of all no Nitrates.

    Nitrates are just so bad for you and can cause terrible headaches for days after eating this stuff. Nope...wouldnt miss any of it. Cant remember when I last ate a bit of Salami or a hot dog.yuk and as for sausages I can get really ill. so I dont buy any of it.

    2 years ago

    None of these non-foods have been in my diet for almost 40 years; I feel a yuk just thinking about them and do not understand why people still eat them. Sorry I am not so strong about my opinions but this one.....

    Bacon, Processed Meat Linked to Pancreatic Cancer: http://bit.ly/wSmohW

    2 years ago

    Just wondering, if you don't eat nitrates have you given up celery?

    2 years ago

    It is true that celery has nitrates but they are not full of fat, preservatives and all the other flavourings.

    "Nitrate/nitrite poisoning. Like beets, eggplant, lettuce, radish, spinach, and collard and turnip greens, celery contains nitrates that convert naturally into nitrites in your stomach and then react with the amino acids in proteins to form nitrosamines. Although some nitrosamines are known or suspected carcinogens, this natural chemical conversion presents no known problems for a healthy adult. However, when these nitrate-rich vegetables are cooked and left to stand at room temperature, bacterial enzyme action (and perhaps some enzymes in the plants) convert the nitrates to nitrites at a much faster rate than normal. These higher-nitrite foods may be hazardous for infants; several cases of "spinach poisoning" have been reported among children who ate cooked spinach that had been left standing at room temperature."

    HBP
    2 years ago

    Nitrates can also cause High Blood Pressure. They make me sick and I can't even eat them. I look for those meats that do not have nitrates in them. Deli that sliced meats have nitrates in them, so I can't eat those meats as well. I look for bacons and hot dogs that do not have nitrates in them. Chicken and turkey has to be whole in order for me to eat them. I love the taste but they make me sick, even small bites of ham, 2 strips of bacons. Not worth it.

    (My dad passed away due to colon cancer, and he was a meat person. Now I know where he got them from. )

    2 years ago

    There are some excellent vegetarian and vegan options...often tofu-based...and if you "taste test" among brands, you may find healthier substitutes for the meats you like.  Even when buying these products, be sure to read labels and do some research on the companies.

    Tofu
    2 years ago

    To be honest with you, I've never liked tofu of anything. I've tried various like cheese, meats, and tofu itself being fried and in salad. I just do not like tofu. I am still open to others offering me taste of tofu, to find any that taste good. I've had friends that likes them, my mom likes them fried. I like soymilk and I drink them regularly. I won't make them at home, cuz I end up throwing them out. I do not like wasting them.

    2 years ago

    Tofu as a substitute only works if you enjoy the taste of what you have made for sure.

    We have a whole folder full of recipes: Terrific Tofu: http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=48&pst=135470

    2 years ago

    I have been saying, for years, that salami and hot dogs are disgusting and dealt with the strange looks people give me. (I live in the south, salami and hot dogs are pretty much a part of everyone's diet). I always knew that there was something wrong with them, why else would they make me sick just thinking about them? Now I have proof! Maybe now I can get the people in my family to stop eating so many hot dogs and stop offering me one. As for bacon, I only eat it if it's been cooked right and no more than 3-4 times a year. If you really don't want to give up bacon, try baking it instead of frying it. Throw it under the broiler for extra crunch

    2 years ago

    This is some great info! Admittedly, I almost vomited from the pics...looks like some kind of jellied sludge to me lol.

    Although I love the taste of hot dogs & sausage, I am not eating them! I love my animals much more than I love the taste!

    2 years ago

    Good for you Natalie and Rachel!

    I have not eaten any of these for decades and thought makes me nauseous.

    Poor animals, us and them
    2 years ago

    If you think about it, we are animals...

    2 years ago

    Yup...we are animals. What I find funny is that most people differentiate themselves from animals...but they are no different than animals.

    When I see meat, I cannot help but see that animal alive in mind. Recently my dad went turkey hunting. Of course being me, I flipped out. I called my dad a murderer and refused to allow the carcass in my house. I tell dad all the time that if he wants meat, there's a lot of people out there sitting on death row or something... As mean as that is, giving him a proper perspective of what should be in everyone's minds (us eating another human being) is the only way he would understand my views on eating meat.

    2 years ago

    Yup...we are animals. What I find funny is that most people differentiate themselves from animals...but they are no different than animals.

    When I see meat, I cannot help but see that animal alive in mind. Recently my dad went turkey hunting. Of course being me, I flipped out. I called my dad a murderer and refused to allow the carcass in my house. I tell dad all the time that if he wants meat, there's a lot of people out there sitting on death row or something... As mean as that is, giving him a proper perspective of what should be in everyone's minds (us eating another human being) is the only way he would understand my views on eating meat.

    2 years ago

    Yup...we are animals. What I find funny is that most people differentiate themselves from animals...but they are no different than animals.

    When I see meat, I cannot help but see that animal alive in mind. Recently my dad went turkey hunting. Of course being me, I flipped out. I called my dad a murderer and refused to allow the carcass in my house. I tell dad all the time that if he wants meat, there's a lot of people out there sitting on death row or something... As mean as that is, giving him a proper perspective of what should be in everyone's minds (us eating another human being) is the only way he would understand my views on eating meat.

    1 year ago

    It is one thing to eat a little meat now and again but it is a whole other thing to eat this kind of unhealthy stuff.....makes me nauteous just thinking about pork and bacon.

    1 year ago

    Well, the other animals are our cousins, you know. Speaking only for myself I really shouldn't eat them. Those hot dog closeups really reinforce that feeling!

    1 year ago

    The thing that makes tofu gross is when you don't know how to get all the water out of it.  Put it on a rack and let it dry out for a few hours. Put a tray under it becauses there is a lot of water there.  After the tofu is reasonably dry, you can marinate it and grill it.  I have marinated it in olive oil and vinegar with sea salt.  It gets great grill marks and it's pretty edible.  

    Omnivore
    1 year ago

    I am an omnivore as all humans are. However, I never eat preserved meat. I learned, actually learned about the danger of nitrites in college. It was taught in one of my Biology Labs. We actually performed an experiment exposing epithelial tissue(tissue that lines you entire intestinal tract from mouth to anus, and skin cells) to a small amount of nitrite, incubated the tissue in a nutritional medium and walla! Cancerous lesions on the experimental tissue only, the control tissue(no nitrites) was still perfectly normal.

    That changed my mind about nitrites immediately and forever. That was more than 10 years ago.

    processed meats
    1 year ago

    OK I'm convinced!  I don't eat any red meat and VERY little other so I have never been attracted to anything in this catefory but I can see that I was just lucky!

    From my latest article
    7 months ago

    Processed meats (lunch meats, bacon, sausage, hot dogs) are high in calories, fat and sodium.


    Sixty eight percent of bacon’s calories come from fat, almost half is saturated fat and each ounce has 30 milligrams of cholesterol.


    Too much salt in your body leads to water retention and bloating.


    NO amount of processed meat is considered safe to eat, according to the American Institute for Cancer Research.



    7 months ago

    You know...I got a newsletter the other day that Ayurveda recommends limiting fermented foods @ least for those living in hotter climates (should only be used as a condiment with meals) as opposed to those cultures who live in cold climates due to the warming effects on the body.

    The whole point of preserving meats was to deal with not having refrigeration and surviving the winter months when foods were scarce. So basically not really foods that promote health but more like foods that promote survival :O) So even if you eat meat, logically it makes sense not to eat these forms of meat....we are supposed to eat seasonally and fresh for health.

    There is an "eggplant bacon" recipe out there for those in transition :O) I'll have to search for it when I have the time later.....

    7 months ago

    There's lots of controversy around nitrite use and possible health problems. Some studies show that nitrites increase the risk of cancer and they recommend reducing the amount of cured food that we eat.

    Other studies have proven that we get much more nitrite in our diet from the natural nitrates found in fresh vegetables...more than we do from any cured meat we eat.

    Anonymous
    7 months ago

    I love hot dogs. I don't eat much bacon, though.

    Anonymous
    7 months ago

    Great article, Roxana. Thanks for sharing.

    7 months ago
    Roxana S.  Now that is my kind of bacon: Eggplant Bacon

    I have the use of a dehydrator so I am feeling tempted. Have to get some eggplant. Thank you Roxana.
    7 months ago

    That does look very good. I do not like bacon at all and cannot understand why people eat it.

     

    Thank you Roxanna.

    7 months ago

    Oh Cupid :O) You are talking to a Puerto Rican gastronome here...the appeal is the play of the wonderful ratio of salt to fat on the palate as well as the texture of crispiness that if cooked in the right way will melt into your mouth. You will also get all the allure of smokey charred meat without the inconvenience of having to fire up the grill. I'm a convert and only God Himself keeps me from bacon ;O) We have sensitive souls here so I won't even go into natural pork rinds and not the artificial things that are sold in stores. Plants win out in the end for me though in most cases due to the fact that they are not only easier to digest but do more for me physically/health-wise and no religion in the world has any problems or issues with plants so it is life unrestricted when you learn to love vegetarian/vegan fare :O) :O) :O)