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13 years ago


Diets in my opinion are not necessary  And it is not just women who diet - I know some very fanatical dieters who are men.  

Although I do not diet, I do my body a favour by eating good healthy food but not to the point of making a big issue about it. Also, I love chocolate brownies. Being stressful about what we are eating is not healthy – in fact it can make one gain weight as the food does not digest as well and gets stored as fat. 

What I see from vast experience in working with people on a nutritional basis is need to realize that diets do not work. 

It is about getting nourishment - in my line of work we talk about 'Healthy Slenderness'.  When one eats foods that are nourishing and balancing, then one is neither under weight nor over weight. I have seen people that I work with achieve a balanced weight through eating in a healthy way - not dieting.  There are foods that will assist in helping the cravings lessen.

13 years ago
The problem is to most people a diet is like a fad. Diet, by definition, is simply what you eat. Simply changing what you eat to be healthy should be the main issue not whether you're on Slim Fast or The South Beach Diet (or any other so-called "diets").
12 years ago

Last time I visited my country, I gained about ten pounds!.

Then on the first days on january, this year I had an EMail from Discovery Health Channel, asking me if I wanted to participate on their Challenge, it's all about getting the right habits and exercising and all that, they provide you with a personalized diet and an exercise program, you follow it, and then, once a week, you weight yourself and they put your weight-loss on a sort of national registry, since I needed to lose weight and I'm inching towards my R.D. (someday it'll happen!), I figured why not?, I need the experience, anyway.

I lost ten pounds, exactly, which is a lot for a five feet, three inches small frame!.

This particular diet, wasn't a diet, per se, it was a whole combination of good habits: smaller portions, good carb-protein-fat proportions, more fiber, less fat, more vegetables, less meat, fruit in every meal, whole grains, lower fat everything, you know, replace your mayo with mustard or plain yogurt kind of thing.

It felt like dieting, though, because I had to follow it closely or else, I wouldn't lose any weight,but, how good it was to do it, because I honed my eating habits; now I eat breakfast, now I remember how to pay attention to my stomach and eat when I'm hungry and stop when I'm full, now I can hear a little voice saying: "really?, don't you think that you are putting too much food on that plate?", now, I crave fruit after dinner, and find most sweets too sweet.

And more.

I've kept the weight off most of the year, simply, because I follow the good habits most of the time.

So, yeah, diets are a waste of time, if people struggles with weight issues, instead of going into the cabbage diet, or whatever whacky diet, they should go to a Registered Dietitian, which is covered by most insurances and get a list of good habits to follow an live by.

If you are tenacious and keep at it, eventually those good "dieting" habits, become just good eating habits; to most people around me, the fact that I eat fruit and steamed veggies, I measure my olive oil and I eat yogurt is a clear sign that I'm dieting, but for me, it's just the way things should be.

12 years ago

Many of us, when we say "diet" actually mean a "special diet" since a "diet" is anything one consumes.

  I have shown myself over the past 3 years (after I quit smoking) that consuming "just anything" is not a good "diet" to be on. Now, 65-70 hevier, I have to cut back on the fats and carbs (or I may never see my feet again! ).  When I started having trouble putting on my own socks and shoes, I knew something had to be done.

Diet is a matter of will!!!
12 years ago
Yes, diet is a matter of willingness!!  I have been taking pills of all kind of control my appetite.  Yet, try not to get addicted to it.  

Actually, I try to use these pill to reformulate my eating behaviour, mainly due to slow metabolism system.  Mine is 4-8 times slower than the others.

Now, I manage not to eat dinners, or I should say I change my dinner time to 5 PM and my dinner content to 3-5 pears with skin and one big bottle of water right after.  It worked when I don't crack! 

I lost 50 pounds in 5 months and got half of it back in 3 weeks during festival season.

The only inconvience is I have to turn down all dinner invitation, it makes me associalable.

However, now I try to set up a bioclock for my stomach.  Let  it get use to that.  And guess what, I can finally stablize my weight from running flash.  It's a good sign.

By the way, whatever diet you are taking, don't forget to get a Multi-vitamin once or twice a week... it is imortant to your health both physically and mentally.

12 years ago
I forgot to say that my gaining weight is something pathologic.  Normal nurishing concept  doesn't not fit with auto-immunity system disorder.  Anything that reinforce immunity system can only get my anti-body stronger to attack my cells and glands.  I thus have to find out other strategy to fight with slower metabolism and weird body system I am having...
12 years ago
Saw this in the Toronto Star last year.

Sep. 17, 2004. 07:39 AM

Fit or fat? BMI comes under fire
The body mass index is widely used to decide who is overweight and in danger of health problems


At 5 feet 4 inches tall and weighing 146 pounds, you think you're an average-sized woman.

And as guys go, at 5 feet 11 inches tall and 185 pounds, you think your husband is in pretty good shape, too.

Well, we hate to burst your bubble but according to the standard international benchmark for weight — the BMI or body mass index — you're both overweight and at a higher risk of a host of health problems.

Don't believe it? Neither do a growing chorus of experts who say the BMI does more harm than good because it focuses on weight and height and not physical activity as a factor in good health.

In fact, the "epidemic of obesity" linked to the BMI measurement that is supposedly wreaking havoc on the health and well-being of North Americans of all ages, is nothing but a bunch of bogus "mumbo jumbo," says Paul Campos, author of The Obesity Myth and a law professor at the University of Colorado.

"(The body mass index) is an artifact of an eating-disordered culture with a fear (of) fatness," he told a University of Toronto forum on the Politics of Obesity. "It is not based on rigorous science ... (and it is) part of a culture that worships emaciation."

The BMI was adopted in the 1970s, ostensibly to more accurately reflect a range of desirable weights and to get away from the life insurance tables that used height, weight and body frame to set healthy weights.

It is based on a mathematical formula using weight and height to derive a specific number. People with BMIs from 19 to 24.9 are considered to be at healthy weights, those with numbers from 25 to 29.9 are ranked as overweight and those who hit 30 and up are labelled obese.

However, factors such as physical activity, smoking, lifestyle and genetics affect health much more than weight, Campos says. He says there is no real correlation between overweight body mass and health risk if fitness and socio-economic levels are considered.

For Mary, a 44-year-old worker in the health care field who did not want her real name used, the BMI is very confusing. The mother of three gets up at 7 a.m. each day and is on the go until she hits the pillow about 11. She walks a lot to stay in shape and eats healthy foods. She had a thyroid condition now under control and in general thinks she is fit and healthy. But her doctor says she must lose weight because of her BMI.

"I'd like to be maybe one or two dress sizes smaller," she says. "The Barbie or model type image in the media is what we think we should be. But for many women they can't get there."

Campos says most of the studies used to calculate the relationship between BMI and health risks show people rated as overweight have lower death rates than those who are underweight or obese. And he says a fit obese person can be healthier than a normal-weight couch potato.

Study after study show the keys to health are following an active lifestyle and not smoking, he says.

Dr. Peter Katzmarzyk, a spokesperson for the Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada, agrees that, across the board, fitness levels and smoking are the most important factors in determining health.

The BMI is based on statistical population averages and should be used as a general indicator of health risk and, as such, is a useful tool, Katzmarzyk says.

However, the index is being used by doctors, dietitians and some educators to set weight goals for individuals, a practice that is dead wrong, says Margaret MacNeill, an expert in health and physical education.

The BMI rates the vast majority of Canadians as overweight, says MacNeill, director of the Centre for Girls' and Women's Health and Physical Activity Research at the University of Toronto.

"But this just means they are at a potential risk for a health problem in the future. They are not currently unhealthy. The BMI is a number (on a scale), not a fact. I don't think it is a good tool," she says.

It "tyrannizes" people, especially women, who are conditioned to strive for unrealistic and unhealthy weights, she says.

The BMI cannot factor in the vast variations in body makeup, Campos says. Some people have more muscle or more bone density, making the index misleading, he says. Katzmarzyk says weight around the abdomen indicates a much higher health risk than weight evenly distributed across the body.

To get an idea of what a BMI means, consider that actor Bruce Willis at 6 feet and 211 pounds has a BMI of 29. Tom Cruise, at 5 feet 7 inches and 201 pounds, has a BMI of 31. Sylvester Stallone, who is 5 feet 9 inches and weighs 228 pounds, has a BMI of 34 and California governor Arnold Schwarzenegger, at 6 feet 2 inches and 257 pounds, has a BMI of 33.

No one debates that being obese is bad for your health, Campos and Katzmarzyk say. The number of people with excess weight has been increasing and society must reverse this unhealthy trend, they say.

FYI part two
12 years ago
But the answer is not to target specific people who need to lose weight, MacNeill and Campos say. That's partly because studies also show that many people lose weight but most gain it back — a process that is unhealthier than being overweight in the first place, Campos says.

Heath problems caused by overweight will be fixed only by changes in society, Campos, MacNeill and Katzmarzyk say. We must all become more active and eat healthier food, they say.

Two studies published in the Journal Of The American Medical Association last week show how complex the issue can be. One studied heart health and weight and physical activity; the other looked at the role both play in adult-onset diabetes.

The findings were contradictory. The heart study found higher physical activity correlated with better heart health, and weight was not a big factor. The diabetes study found overweight correlated with increased rates of adult-onset diabetes and that increased physical activity had much less impact.

That could be because the studies did not measure subjects' fitness — for example, by putting them on a treadmill and checking their heart rates — but relied on self-reports.

Weight and height are easy to measure; physical activity is hard to assess, MacNeill says. Peter Donnelly, a professor at the faculty of physical education and health at U of T, agrees that self-reported levels of physical activity are usually off the mark. Such surveys often ignore the full range of a subject's activity.

For example, the heart health study had women with heart problems report their level of physical activity and those who reported being more active had less heart trouble.

However, Katzmarzyk says the women who reported more physical activity did so because they had better heart health. The women who reported being less active may have more serious heart conditions. Subjects in the diabetes study also reported their own activity levels.

Most people do not understand what the BMI means, experts say, or how to apply it to their own health.

The media have oversimplified how it works, MacNeill says, and there is a real need to educate the public.

So think of it this way. Suppose researchers measured the speed of cars travelling on a highway and correlated speed with the number of accidents.

They'd likely find that, statistically, driving too fast or too slowly correlates with more accidents. But they could not say driving at a specific speed caused any specific accident.

In the real world, road conditions, the type of car, its state of repair, the age and experience of the driver along with a host of other things would be a factor in causing an accident.

The debate over "fit versus fat" is raging in the medical and scientific community, according to an editorial in the Journal Of The American Medical Association last week published along with the two recent studies.

"Indisputable evidence links obesity to health problems," the editorial says.

But it goes on to say that obese people with at least moderate activity levels "have lower rates of heart disease and overall mortality than their normal-weight but unfit peers." They also have about half the death rate of unfit people with normal weights, it said.

The conclusion? Physicians, researchers, and policymakers need to spend less time debating the role of fitness and obesity in health and more time getting people active.

So get active and get off the scale.
12 years ago
diets are a wonderfull way to teach the body to time food  comes around!!!!lol..+ to get fat!...

did you know that false sugars are used to increase the weight of pigs!

nature cant be fooled!...enjoying life is the best way to keep balance!(by the way..we frenchys are mostly not fat+we have fun eating!....but...we take our time+eat from everything!)

12 years ago

I have been vegetarian 9 years, then vegan two, then tried the atkin diet from that.... could you imagine?! It didn't last too long. My weight went up and down. Finally I realized it was all about the excersise. Then you can pretty much eat whatever you want.

Now I had a baby. I gained 50 lbs!!! I still have 15 to lose. My baby is 6 months old and I am nursing. I tried that Discovery Channel thing but didn't complete it. I didn't have the energy or a baby sitter... then I moved. I thought that i would burn calories in the move, and I did a little but I ate a little less healthy too.

All in all... I think that the world has a distorted body image. Healthy is one thing.... overly healthy is another. When we are comparing ourselves to tooth picks we are in for misery. Who are we comparing ourselves too? Who are we trying to impress? Why are we listening to everyone else?

I am happy knowing I enjoy life and what I eat. I am happy knowing I sacrificed my 'good looks' for a beautiful healthy baby. I am happy getting back to my 'normal' weight one 'bite' at a time and not racing to the finish... for what? Is there a prize at the end? Fitting into my old jeans? Yes, that will be nice. But I would like to just get all new jeans...

Even as a teenager I tried to be so skinny. I had eating disorders, drank and did drugs. This all had to go for me to be healthy. Our bodies pay a price for treating it in such a way.

The best diet is like you say, no diet. Eating healthy (balanced 'diet') and exercising. I love chocolate too... so I guess live happy and eat healthy.

I agree
12 years ago
The fad diets of today are marketing schemes and not healthy ways to create good eating habits. A few years ago I went to a nutritionist to get informed on ways to eat healthier. It was a waste of time as she touted the Canada food guide which is paid for by the industries that it is recommending. Which is a suspicious conflict of interest. I have recently had to cut sugar from my diet as I have many symptoms of
12 years ago
I don't know if this was said or not, but along with fad and crash diets, "starvation" doesn't work either. I mean, for instance, skipping a meal, etc. The rhythm of the body is thrown off and any weight that comes off will be back, in a horrible rebound, leaving one worse off then they started out.
12 years ago

"Thin people" eat differently than fat people ... in case you haven't noticed ... I remember growing up in a family where this was very noticeable and my Aunt was always chided for not eating bread, or if she did eat bread it was the tiny "end" on the sliced bread my grandmother baked. My sister, several cousins and I adopted her eating habits.

Oprah's show, yesterday, explained alot about people who do NOT diet at all ... they taste most everything, deny themselves nothing, and use PORTION CONTROL ... and a littyle "trick" called the 3 bite limit ... 3 bites of anything and you've had a "good taste" of that food and you can move on.

Mireille Guiliano, author of the bestseller French Women Don't Get Fat thinks she has the answers and is ready to share!

Mireille says she distinctly remembers the moment of discovery about the path to thinness in the traditional French diet. "When I grew up in France, I was a normal size. And then I came to the United States and I gained 20 pounds." When she went back home to Paris, Mireille says she felt fat. "Our family doctor told me that I could get back to my normal weight in six months just by doing a few French tricks."

by nature it doesn´t work
12 years ago

a diet is something we force our body to accept... Again, we force !..And the body won´t bow, sealed !!! Set the body a certain period of time to take off weight ? Sure, you reach what you want, but the body is resilient and soon wants it nature B A C K  !...

the best diet, a diet the body accepts though, is a diet over one year, so the body easily gets used to...The result is just big, to put it this way.

here is one: enough liquids, do a lot of walking. Well, a lot... If you can afford   2 hours, 4 or 5 times a week, or every day, one hour, kinda striding, in the park nextdoor, or aerobics in your room , one hour a day ( to soft music, jumping, moving, all gently )..One hour goes fast by...In short, only a diet, over a long period of time, one year or so, so the body gets used to it  F O R   E V E R.. . How about cutting out a couple of things ?  You have to find out, what... 

so, whatever the kind of diet, don´t set a certain period of time within which the body has to show the  "  outcome  " .

thanks for reading.                       

A New One ....The Flavor Point Diet
12 years ago

I was just reading this in Newsweek ...

March 28, 2006 - By his own admission, Jonathan Link, 34, a systems analyst at Griffin Hospital in Derby, Conn., is "a designer kind of guy." So imagine his distress when his weight began creeping up and he found himself shopping at Wal-Mart for trousers with elastic waists. No matter how much he exercised, the extra pounds wouldn't go away. Then he volunteered for a trial of a new diet plan. Admittedly, he was skeptical when he heard that it wasn't based on counting calories, but on cooking meals with daily flavor themes—lemon one day, thyme or basil the next, walnuts or almonds the day after. Yet in 12 weeks, Link, who's just shy of 5'10", dropped from 183 pounds to 159, and his cholesterol plummeted from a scary 232 to 164—low enough that his physician stopped pestering him about going on cholesterol-lowering drugs.

Today anyone who wants to try this diet can, without joining a clinical trial. It's the subject of a new book, "The Flavor Point Diet," by Dr. David Katz, associate professor of public health at Yale and director of the Yale Prevention Research Center at Griffin Hospital. It's the first truly novel diet plan to come along in years—and one of the few that doesn't require starving yourself or eliminating entire categories of nutrients, such as fat or carbs. All you have to do is "manage flavors," says Katz.

That may sound like an improbable premise for a diet. But it's based on the science of "sensory-specific satiety." Think of it as the theory of diminishing returns applied to appetite. It explains, for example, why each successive bite of pasta is less satisfying than the previous one. That's why you don't stop at pasta, but reach for the bruschetta as well, not to mention the salami and provolone. And when the cannoli and tiramisu are offered, it's surprising how you can find room for those, too. Never mind that you're already full. Nature has programmed us to seek a variety of tastes, shapes, colors and textures in our food, so that we will consume a wide range of nutrients. Yet in the land of vending machines and all-you-can-eat buffets, this natural propensity is working against us.

The remedy, according to Katz, is to consume a healthy diet with nutritional variety, but unified by a daily flavor theme. On lemon day, for example, you would have lemon-poppy seed muffins for breakfast, lemon tabbouleh salad for lunch, pan-seared tilapia with lemon chives and capers for dinner, and fresh blueberries with lemon peel for dessert. The subtle repetition of the flavor du jour helps you reach satiety faster, he says, without making you feel deprived. The diet includes a month of these daily menus (plus two "special indulgence days"—chocolate and coconut).

there's more--->

Comments, anyone?

11 years ago
This folder is full of such good information; I thought I would have a look at it for some further inspiration for my Healthy Slenderness Classes.  Thank you to all of you!
11 years ago

Patt, I like your article very much; particularly this statement:

Nature has programmed us to seek a variety of tastes, shapes, colors and textures in our food, so that we will consume a wide range of nutrients.

In the theory of regeneration it is stated:

That we must eat a wide variety of Whole foods and herbs to assist regeneration.

When we eat this wide variety it follows that we will be getting variety of tastes, shapes, colors and textures and of course nutrients.

11 years ago

Tom W.
Tom has received 2 new, 2 total stars from Care2 members
Hydro electric power and weight loss 

From Tom Wood

Your brain can be your downfall in your quest to loss weight. Despite being only 2% of your body weight , Your brain makes massive energy demands up to 25%of all the energy you use is used by your brain.

You might be thinking great the more I work my brain the more calories I burn, let get out the chest set and loss some weight. Unfortunately it doesn’t work like this.

Due to blood circulation only 15%-20% of the energy in your food is available to the brain. So when your brain demands energy (makes you hungry) only 20% of the food intake is actually used by the brain, if your body doesn’t burn the rest it gets stored as fat.

For many of us in sedentary brain jobs with little physical activity this can cause weight gain. As the brain make huge demands for food and the 80% or so that doesn’t get to the brain isn’t totally used by the body it’s laid down as fat.

There is 1 possible solution lots of hard physical exercise .If you don’t like that idea , a recent discover many come to your rescue . It’s recently been discover your brain has a secondary energy source, hydro eclectic power.

Tiny bio hydro electrical power generators, exist in the membrane of your brain cells. As water passes though the brain cells it generates hydro electric power which the brain and nervous system can use.

This cuts down on the brain demands for food . (hunger). However the brain can only utilize this energy source if an abundance of water is available. If the brain becomes dehydrated it will demand food resulting in huger and over eating.

To keep your brain energy demands and hunger under control we advice an absolute minimum of 2 liters of water spread though out the day. If you drink drinks containing caffeine or alcohol you must drink more water as these substances dehydrated the body and brain.

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8 years ago

I see it over and over again that when a healthy way of eating is in place being the right weight is simple. 

Anyone with a story to tell about changing their eating pattern leading to weight loss?

8 years ago

When I was 14 or 15, I weighed around 156 lbs - 71 kg. I'm still about the same height - 5'3". I was in terrible shape as well - I couldn't run at all, I had no strength. This proved to be a very bad thing the day I needed to defend myself from someone.

Two things finally got me doing something: my brother's passing away, and my cousin's nagging. My brother always encouraged me to eat healthier and be more active, and when he passed away I figured the best way to honor his memory was to take care of myself. My cousin kept pestering me to join the gym he was going to, and so I did.

I'd already started losing some weight, though. I simply cut soda and chips out of my diet - my family used to drink soda as part of the main meal every day. I also refused anything fried or breaded - a huge challenge for my aunt, a fat-loving cook. I also started nagging for more veggies.

I still allowed myself the occasional chocolate, and still drank Boing - this stuff is about 13% fruit juice, and not as icky sweet as most other 'juices' out there - but with excercise, the pounds started coming off. Yay!

Later on, I took a few more things out of my diet: sugar and red meat. For the record, I still eat sweet things, and red meat once in a while (I get a craving for it when I have a heavy period) - but sugar makes my energy levels go wacky, and I realized red meat tends to make me sick, so I avoid them as much as possible.

Recently, I've also started drinking unsweetened tea - green, jasmine, white... I've found it really boosts my energy levels. My martial arts instructor confirmed this when I gave him some white tea to try - he has no lack for stamina, but with the tea, he was unstoppable! He loves the stuff, now. Actually, two months ago, I got a 30% discount on my payment in exchange for a box of white tea.

For me, it's excercise that keeps my weight stable. Actually... I've stopped worrying about my weight - I've found that I actually like being in the middle-weight category for my martial arts competitions. I used to be in light-weight, at about 119 lbs (my lowest ever) but now, I'm right on the border between both categories - 60kg or 132 lbs - and loving it!

I've decided it's better for me to worry about getting into better shape - faster, stronger, etc. - and technique than a number on a scale. As you said, it's better to be fit than skinny. At the last tournament, I won 2nd place. The girl who beat me was  17 lbs heavier, and that's my new challenge. Not the weight, mind you, but the strength, because that was her advantage (for the record, I beat two girls 13 lbs heavier than me - but those 4 pounds really made a difference).

I could've beat her, too, if I'd been in better shape - and it's what I mean to do at the next national, in July.

8 years ago

Thank you Citlalli V.

What a great true story of the way to lose weight naturally.  You knew was best to do and DID IT!!! And it worked which is no suprise.

Well done Citlalli and I appreciate you sharing with us.   Good luck on the next tournament; let us know how it goes.

Any more stories?  They can be short one.

This post was modified from its original form on 12 May, 9:48
6 years ago

It's all about eating real food which of course includes whole foods with lots of fruits and vegetables.

6 years ago
I really thank all of you for giving helpful advice on eating the right foods instead of dieting. I'm really sick of "diets." Unfortunately, I am an emotional eater rather than eating when I'm hungry. I've now found myself about 70 pounds overweight since I live on pizza, hamburgers and fries, and lots of sugar. (Time out to revive anyone who just fainted from reading my usual menu.) I'm also a couch potato. I confess I have a hard time liking vegetables. I do have a friend who likes to cook and has shown me that veggies can be good when steamed. I honestly get kind of scared when I think of having to give up sugar, carbs and fats. But I must do something pretty quick or I will die a diabetic, or from an M.I. or a stroke.
6 years ago

Thank you Debbie for sharing which is a vulnerable thing for you to do.

I agree it would be so good for you to make a start. No point trying to do it all at once.

Choose just one healthy fruit or vegetable that you would like to add to your daily food regime that is healthy would be the place to begin. It must be a food that you really do like but are not including right now. Tell us what it is.

The idea is that when you begin adding healthy foods the degenerating ones begin to fall away.

6 years ago

Yhank you everyone!! 

                 all the best

         Happy Cooking!

6 years ago
Thank you, Diana.  Adding one veggie or fruit doesn't sound so scary.  I think I can do that for starters!
6 years ago

Great! Debbie tell us which one are you going to add?

6 years ago
O.K. I think tonight I can add yellow squash for dinner. There is a place near me that I like to eat sometimes. I can eat unhealthy things there but they do have a selection of fresh vegetables.
6 years ago

Tonights dinner was Fresh Grilled Salmon, potato salad,
YELLOW SQUASH, and cornbread. A friend brought me a chocolate brownie he had made today.   He promised not to do it again.

6 years ago

That sounds really good Debbie! for you.

You know if you did not have any unhealthy foods in your cupboards and then when the occassional friend brought your something it may just be ok.

6 years ago

How's it going Debbie?

The best way forward is to simply add more fruits and vegetables rather then trying to get rid of food that does not serve the body.

The other thing to add is pure water. If you are not drinking any then simply add 2 glasses a day to begin with.

6 years ago
I have a feeling that my excuse for not drinking water is going to be shot down. I drink a lot of iced tea. Can't it be called the same thing as drinking water? Water out of the tap tastes really bad!   I did much better drinking bottled water until we were told the containers were going to kill us. Is there another alternative?
Repy To Debbie C
6 years ago

If the drinking water is unpleasant,

Use some dilute fruit juice like Ribena

This has saved us many a time, as I fine plain water unpleasant to drink most of the time, but I only drink Ribena with the real sugar. Many years ago when all this low sugar came out. The after taste came was making me ill, and our family doctor agreed that that it was not the best think to buy, so I have always make an effort to buy the High Juices or the plain Ribena, I get a stack in when it is on offer.

6 years ago

Well Debbie, you know the tea does not really count. Sorry

Unless the water is from a natural well  then if the water does not taste good that is because it full of chemicals. Is your ice tea made from this water? Chemicals become toxins in your body; toxins store themselves in fat cells.

I never drink or cook with tap water.  Our tap water has lots of fluoride in it and I am very sensitive to it.

As a friend of mine said today: "Too much fluoride in the water. Dumbing people down. I don't even give my cats tap water."

I full reccomend filtering your water. find out if there is flouride in it as the molecule is small and needs a good filter. The brita ones do not take it out.

Go to this discussion for good info:

Water...the Most Important Nutrient

6 years ago
Thank you, Diana. I guess the iced tea has to go.
I also appreciate the "Water link."  It did occur to me that if water out of the tap is bad for us due to chemicals, what do we drink if we eat out?  Take our own with us?
6 years ago

Wow Debbie, you are prepared to give up your iced tea!?! I wasn't suggesting you do that cold turkey. 

Need to add some good water in place of it. Start with 2 cups a day and increase it till you are at 6 - 8 cups. See my addition in Water...the Most Important Nutrient

6 years ago


Have any of you ever had a problem with sugar addiction? I don't mean that you love sweets and they are hard for you to resist; I mean if you go without them for a few days it results in a major blood sugar drop. This results in dizziness, shaking, ravenous hunger, blurred vision, etc. It is much like a diabetic in insulin shock. Just trying to replace the sugar with fruit doesn't help that much. Anybody ever experienced this and have some advice for all of us? 

6 years ago

Good question Debbie. Sugar is something that gets in the way of all dieting. It is addictive.  That said, make sure you have a medical check up to rule out diabetes or there could be something hormonally going on.

"Did you know that Sugar is More Addictive than Cocaine?  A study gave rats a choice between sugar water and cocaine; 94% the rats chose sugar. Even rats previously addicted to cocaine switched to the sugar when there was a choice." (from an article I wrote 'Shrink Your Belly – Reduce Sugar - Hope for Sugar Addicts')Originally I wrote it for a magazine but we will be publishing it this week:

Right here we have some good info:

You have to do what all other people with addictions have to do: wean yourself off or go cold turkey which I do not reccomend. "It takes about 7 days to get the addiction out of your system. This does not mean the craving will disappear but the intense addiction needs that amount of time." Again from my article.

4 years ago

Eating for health not weight.
4 years ago

If one eats for health and only when actually hungry(not bored, angry, etc), one will be at exactly the right weight for them.

4 years ago

I agree with Kristin. Diet fads only bevefit is the money that the author is putting in his opr her pocket.

4 years ago

I think what everyone is talking about here are what is called Weight-Loss Plans, and not diets. We are all on some type of diet. Whether that is a special diet for diabetes, or any other health condiditon, to a healthy diet to a not so healthy diet. The word diet has become a word that everyone is freaked out about and this should not be.

Many, Many Decades ago the word Diet was mis-used by the medical industry. When people became over-weight the Dr would say we need to put you on a diet to lose weight. What he really meant was a weight-loss plan to lose weight.

True, many weight-loss fads do not work. But on the other hand many do. One must find the one that works with their body and not against their body. One must first find the reason other than a poor diet, for the cause of weight gain. Many individuals prescriptions help in the weight gain dilemma, many individuals endocrine system is off balance, many individuals metabolism has slowed down, there are many medical reasons beyond what I have mentioned for weight-gain.

When an individual begins a weight-loss plan, without first finding out the cause of their weight gain, they very well could be doing more harm than good to their health. It is very important to find out the reason for their weight gain. For instance there are weight-loss plans to follow for the above conditions I have mentioned.

Diets do not work
4 years ago

Part of my post -towards the end, further below-, may be off topic, but it´s just a suggestion for whoever needs a good tip to guaranteed lose some weight...sorry therefore, if it is somewhere off topic, Diana...


Now, my post: 


" this doesn´t work for my body " , sounds like, it doesn´t work for my browser...To be honest, am sorry to say, sort " of-am"  sad to read this at times ( an opinion by the way and I doubtless respect your view too), so a diet simply cannot just cannot, because it´s something unnatural to the body that accordingly cannot make head or tail of...We talk about diets and fads like in lessons of mathematics...a bit overdone I admit, but...

So a diet cannot work because it´s something we force the body to accept and we set the body a certain period of time at the end of which it has to show or bring about a result, and if it doesn´t, we´re then disappointed with ourselves to the point that a hang-up results and in cases we think, something is not working in our body and we keep searching for better solutions, in vain, but again, because it´s un-natural...

If we didn´t reach our goal or any result, it was because we exposed the body to a certain amout of stress and by doing so i.e. asking too much of it, hindered it from performing and showing the " longed for " result; in other words it´s  a mistake to set a certain period of time to the body !!! YOUR BODY -IS in most cases in good shape apart from the fact that " we " have those couple of Kilos too many and that we need to make sure we shed... there´s no sure formula for success when we resort to all kinds of fads....


Doctors like teachers like chefs like tinkers too, are but humans and so, they differ, and depending on the case i.e. how overweight we are, some if not most sure take the issue seriously, get to the roots of things and do reach a positive result, but again, ---there´s no sure formula for success when it comes to fads --- other than to shed the kilos too many the natural way...


First we need to have a will of iron so we don´t soon give up...So to start and at the risk of sounding trite, again, we musn´t set a certain period of time to the body...


In other words and to wrap up in a nutshell, start as follows and once you reach a result that sure will show up, you no longer need to go for a walk 5 days a week ---as I described below---, 3 times suffise from the day on you reached your goal, the body having gotten used now to its new life style most thankful to you...because you went the natural path, remember ?




include the following in your diet for at least one year, -one year-  so the body has plenty of time to get used to the change, so


---how about a 2-hours walk at least 5 days a week ?! Best without kit

---how about 3 litres and more liquid -a large cup of green tea (real leaves, boil at least for 15 minutes from the boiling time unlike widely known), sweetened with honey if too bitter...I personally use honey for my bread or oats and drink my green tea unsweetened -you need to find out how much green tea you want to boil, a certain quantity over the day if you want to be sure, it´s not too bitter

---and how about 2 or 3 tablespoons of organic cloudy apple vinegar in your glass of cold water ?! personally I just gulp as it´s not sweet honey or wine

---how about eating less meat as cooked meat destroys the protein contained in other food ?...Patience is called for and you´ll make it !


thanks Diana, thanks all

(p.s.: I posted something in this thread a few years ago, but I didn´t sound quite convincing then )

4 years ago

Wow! Great points from all of you which is why you got a


When you go on a diet simply to reduce fat; often the body is starved.  This is why afterwards weight is gained.


The way I see the issue of being overweight is that the body is so hungry for deep nutrition so in an attempt to get it there is a reaching out to food of all sorts. Feed the body real food in the right combinations and the weight will naturally drop.

Exercise and Diet
4 years ago

These are great posts. There was one post that mentioned exercising and being able to eat whatever you want as long as you exercise. Exercise is a huge part of the equation to keeping fit, but diet is the second half of it No matter how much we exercise, what food we put in us can either help or hurt your health. Its not just about keeping slim, it is also about nourishing the body. Exercise will work to a certain extent, but if one is eating too much fried foods, you will break your body down eventually. Diet, as far as what we are eating daily, is very there are certain foods that strengthen the immune system and provide important nutrients that our bodies need and crave. Our bodies crave nutrients that we find in vegetables, legumes/beans, and fruits...and if that body doesn't receive them, then the body suffers health related issues or worsen in regards to those health related issues especially as we get older. This doesn't mean that we can't indulge...I love french fries, hamburgers, chocolate chip cookies and pies. A healthy lifestyle works much better if we allow ourselves to indulge, but not to overdo it.


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