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2 years ago

Is this man not the most hypocritical person on the face of the earth?

Is there any question it is all about the money for him now? His movie was ripped to shreds, he was pushing for legislation that would make him and his Chinese investors millions and now he sells his network to an oil backed nation.

Qatar is one of the most polluted countries in the world. You know why it is so polluted? It's because of its massive production of gas and carbon.

Amazing that people still think he cares about anything but the B's...

2 years ago

Cute Title


2 years ago

I wish I could claim it. I read it on a msg board somewhere...

2 years ago

I like it too.  Good one, even if from someone else.

2 years ago

I heard that he sold his TV station to Al-Jazeera, which is a news organization.  That's a bit different, if it is true.  

2 years ago

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/01/31/jon-stewart-quizzes-al-gore-on-sale-current-tv-to-al-jazeera/



Stewart took a break from the jokes and quizzed Gore about his choice, saying he thought the agreement was strange given that Gore is an environmental activist.

“You had an opportunity to make a statement, probably, about your principles and some people would feel—and for me as well, I thought it was an odd move-- not because some of the other things but because it is backed by fossil fuel money.”

Gore stood behind his decision, touting that Al-Jazeera has “terrific climate coverage.”

“I am very, very comfortable with it,” Gore said confidently. “I completely get the criticism but this was a good choice… I completely believe in this.”

Stewart added that viewers may find it hard to get behind Gore’s environmental platforms because Al-Jazeera is “an oil based company.”


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/01/31/jon-stewart-quizzes-al-gore-on-sale-current-tv-to-al-jazeera/#ixzz2JkiecLeT


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You can read the rest at link.  Gore is full of shyte...  It's about the green alright, which would be fine if he wasn't so full of it otherwise.  I am pretty sure that is the point.





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This post was modified from its original form on 02 Feb, 6:39
2 years ago

Good point!  Thanks, Suzanne.  It is a strange choice if Al-Jazeera is backed by fossil fuel money.  

2 years ago

Not so strange if the green you seek has a decimal point in it. 

2 years ago

Agreed.  Gore has been out of politics for many years now.  He's a wealthy businessman.  He should have sold his company to a green corporation.  I am certain he knew better, especially after writing a book about climate change.

2 years ago

It is a strange choice if Al-Jazeera is backed by fossil fuel money.  


It is, 100% without a doubt.

AJ is owned by the government of Qatar. All of Qatar's wealth is solely attributed to liquefied natural gas, oil, petrochemicals, and related industries.

It was about the money. He went with who would pay him the most. That goes against all his preaching to the common man and various countries about their responsibility as it relates to global warming, I mean Climate change, I mean climate disruption.

I have told people for a long time that this doom and gloom global warming fear mongering would crumble. It started with the CRU email scandal and it has pregessively broken down more and more every year. Met has updated their projections, There is a report from the UN stating the sun now plays a larger role in warming than they orginally thought.

All the accepted warming rates are now being downgraded. Science has not figured this out yet.

But, rest assured, This little fact will not stop Gore from trying to scare peoples money out of their pockets and into his bank account...

2 years ago


Are you absolutely sure that Al Jazeera is owned by the government of Qatar, Buck?
 



This post was modified from its original form on 04 Feb, 8:58
2 years ago

Are you absolutely sure that Al Jazeera is owned by the government of Qatar, Buck?


Well considering The Emir fronted almost all of the money to keep it running the first five years and he is still the majority investor and now his cousin and former member of the Ministry of Information is the chairman of the board, I would say, yes.

But let's hear your weak and pathetic apologetic ramblings about how this is cool with you and Gore did not become the planets biggest hypocrite.

And then let us know how you think Sheikh Hamad bin Thamer Al Thani obtained his wealth.

I am going love hearing you defend this one. This will be some classic archival material as you bend your normally unbendable morals surrounding oil, oil companies, the super wealthy owners, and how they are heartless killers of the environment.

Al Jazeera is backed by oil. Al Jazeera would not exist without oil money. And just an FYI, you will be embarrasing  CNN, the NY Times, The Gaurdian (amongst most other major news networks) by your information here. Because they all  report that is owned and financed by the Emir/Qatari government.

So let's hear it...

2 years ago



The Saudi Prince, The Mosque And Fox News
by DAVID FOLKENFLIK
September 01, 2010 4:00 PM
 

The proposed construction of an Islamic center and mosque close to ground zero in New York City has inspired intense scrutiny from news outlets this month — and few have outstripped the Fox News Channel in their interest.
 

That's especially true on Fox's opinion-driven shows in the morning and evening hours. Familiar figures including Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham have repeatedly asked where the money for the center will come from.
 

Yet the parent company of Fox News shares a financial backer with the imam who is at the center of the firestorm. The second-largest holder of voting stock in News Corp. is Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal, a nephew of the Saudi king. And through his philanthropies, Waleed has given generously to initiatives pursued by the imam, Feisal Abdul Rauf.
 

But that connection has not been spelled out by Fox to viewers. Fox's intense coverage of the Islamic center, combined with its lack of disclosure about the corporate connection to Waleed, has sparked scorn from some media critics and from liberals — including, repeatedly, from satirist Jon Stewart.
 

Former ABC News correspondent Robert Zelnick, who covered the Middle East, praised Fox News' straight reporters for their stories on what he said was a legitimate issue. But he said disclosure might have been warranted.
 

"I think in a circumstance where an apparent — or at least arguably apparent — conflict of interest is present, the better part of valor is to simply broadcast information about the person in question," Zelnick says.
 

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129584557
 



This post was modified from its original form on 04 Feb, 10:23
2 years ago

And..?

2 years ago


And ... where's your outrage at that?
 

2 years ago

Fox news sucks, what's new? I don't reference Fox news, I don't really care all that much. All major news outlets are full of shite and only there to make money. Passing along objective coverage of domestic and international activity is not in any of their playbooks...



This post was modified from its original form on 04 Feb, 10:39
2 years ago

Got anything to add to this topic of conversation..?

2 years ago


Not really. What am I supposed to add? The only thing this article proves is how pervasive oil is. As for Al Gore making money; Is this something only Al Gore does? Really?
 

2 years ago


So is Al Jazeera really owned by the government of Qatar?
 

2 years ago

From Wikipedia (with citations):

Al Jazeera (Arabic: الجزيرةal-ǧazīrah IPA: [æl dʒæˈziːrɐ], literally "The Jazeera", abbreviating "The [Arabian] Peninsula"), also known as Aljazeera and JSC (Jazeera Satellite Channel), is a broadcaster owned by the privately held Al Jazeera Media Network and headquartered in Doha, Qatar.[2] Initially launched as an Arabic news and current affairs satellite TV channel, Al Jazeera has since expanded into a network with several outlets, including the Internet and specialty TV channels in multiple languages. Al Jazeera is accessible in several world regions. Until 2011, Al Jazeera was owned by the government of Qatar.[2] Before and after the change, it has claimed editorial independence from the government of Qatar, though this has been disputed.[3]

2 years ago

As for Al Gore making money; Is this something only Al Gore does? Really?


It is not about him making money. It is about who he sold his product to and how it goes against all of what he stands for.

Hey, if you do not find it an awkward duality then fine.

The people with common sense see him for what he is...

2 years ago

Nancy,

It still is. Wikipedia is not the end all resource out there. In fact, it is quite regularly deficient or skewed. As a general rule it should only be a starting point for research...

2 years ago

I do know that which is why I pointed out that it was from wiki and had citations.  And that is exactly what I tell my students- only as a starting point. 

Sp scrolling through the citations:

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/qatar/al-jazeera-turning-into-private-media-organisation-1.837871

They say in 2011 that Al-Jazeera was THINKING of becoming private.  So someone misread or misled.

2 years ago

Cool...

2 years ago

I am just waiting for christian to reveal what he knows. Unless his line of questioning was, in fact, just assuring that I was sure...

2 years ago


What I know is that they are not owned by the government.
 

2 years ago

Well, then you know more than every major news network out there or you have altered reality with, what I assume must be, a device given to you by aliens.

So bequeath to us all this reference that ye be using to trumpeth us all...

2 years ago

On Wednesday, al-Jazeera’s owner — the emir of the oil- and natural gas-rich Persian Gulf state of Qatar — sought to change that.

Shock! Awe!

It couldn't be, christian knows it's not the case...

2 years ago


That doesn't mean the government "owns" Al Jazeera. Try again.



2 years ago

christian, you need to check your reality altering mechanism.

I don't think it is operating as advertised...

2 years ago


The Emir owns it, so that automatically means that the government of Qatar owns it? Really?



2 years ago

That doesn't mean the government "owns" Al Jazeera. Try again.


Sorry, but I can't help myself with this one:

BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh crap man, whew! This is killing me.

You know Qatar is a absolute monarchy ruled by the Emir, right?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

This is the best one ever...

2 years ago

True,  The Queen of England might own property that Great Britian does not. 

2 years ago

On the other hand, does it matter?

2 years ago

Please keep going man. This could be legendary...

2 years ago

True,  The Queen of England might own property that Great Britian does not.


GB is a constitutional monarchy. The two cannot be compared...



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2 years ago


Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliburton, so I guess that means the US government owned Halliburton.
 

2 years ago

Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliburton, so I guess that means the US government owned Halliburton.


How dumb are you?

He was not CEO while he was in office. We do not allow that kind of thing. Not only that, he did not own Haliburton. He was just, as you stated, CEO for a period of time.

This is awesome though. This thread will be used as reference for as long as you stick around.

Classic...

2 years ago


The two can totally be compared. The Royal family has vast holdings worldwide. Doesn't mean Great Britain owns those holdings.

Nice try, though.
 

2 years ago


The CBC is funded by the Canadian government. Does that mean Stephen Harper owns the CBC?

Nope.

Keep going, Buck-a-roo ...
 



This post was modified from its original form on 04 Feb, 12:19
2 years ago

The two can totally be compared.


Wow!

I never knew your delusional state would go this far!

Whoa...

2 years ago


Nor I yours.
 

2 years ago

The CBC is funded by the Canadian government. Does that mean the Canadian government owns the CBC?


Awesome!

Keep it coming LOL!!!

2 years ago


Instead of flapping around like a freshly-caught cod on the deck of a fishing boat, why not show us exactly how the government of Qatar owns Al Jazeera?
 

2 years ago

Instead of flapping around like a freshly-caught cod on the deck of a fishing boat, why not show us exactly how the government of Qatar owns Al Jazeera?


How could I possibly help it?

Have you read your posts?

I will explain for your benefit:

Qatar is an absolute monarchy. This means the Emir is the ruler not bound by silly things like a constitution. He also owns Al-Jazeera.

Which means the Emir, who is the ruler, owns Al-Jazeera. Thus Al-Jazeera is owned by the government.

Come on, man. For your sanity's sake and all your future posts sake, you should just stop this silliness...



This post was modified from its original form on 04 Feb, 12:33
2 years ago

Look, man. I have admitted I was wrong before. It's not as hard as you think. You should just let go a little and try it. It will make you feel better after the intial sting.

It does get better over time and also shows people you are not completely insane...

2 years ago


You have never admitted to being wrong, and all your little connect-the-dots speech did was to prove my point, not yours.
 

2 years ago

You have never admitted to being wrong, and all your little connect-the-dots speech did was to prove my point, not yours.


I absolutely have but that does not matter right now.

You have to do some soul searching right now and ask yourself how far are you really willing to go with this. I think this is clearly an indicator of your mental state at this point.

Every story about this be it bloggy or MSM clearly references Qatar, being ruled - in an authoritarian manner - by the Emir, owning Al-Jazeera. I don't know what you have seen that would indicate otherwise.

My only assumption is because you despise me so much and this tarnishes Gore so bad that you must defy reality just on principle. Your own distorted version of principle that is.

Because you are clearly mistaken in this situation...

2 years ago



You're still missing a big patch between the dots you were trying to connect:


"Which means the Emir, who is the ruler, owns Al-Jazeera.  --->Big patch missing here<--- Thus Al-Jazeera is owned by the government."


Keep going ...


 

2 years ago

What is the point truly of all this?  That Al Gore sold his soul for green, but it ain't the kind he preaches about all the time.







This post was modified from its original form on 04 Feb, 13:31
2 years ago

You're still missing a big patch between the dots you were trying to connect:


I guess you have made your decision, down the rabbit hole you go...



This post was modified from its original form on 04 Feb, 13:34
2 years ago

Wat is the point truly of all this?  That Al Gore sold his soul for green, but it ain't the kind he preeches about all the time.


That is the point of all of this.

Then it became the current situation where christian is trying to say somehow that Qatar does not own Al-Jazeeri. I think maybe he is trying to show somehow that this means it is not backed by oil money.

It's strange to watch but he is really trying to create some alternate reality...

2 years ago


Well, Buck, you have failed to demonstrate exactly how the government of Qatar owns Al Jazeera. Your decision.
 

2 years ago


I never said it wasn't backed by oil money. That's how it got its start, genius. I asked you to demonstrate how Al Jazeera is currently owned by the government of Qatar, but you failed to do so.
 

2 years ago

Well, Buck, you have failed to demonstrate exactly how the government of Qatar owns Al Jazeera.


That is what you say...

2 years ago


Either way, Al Jazeera's reporting is much more independent than its corporate American counterparts.
 

2 years ago

I asked you to demonstrate how Al Jazeera is currently owned by the government of Qatar, but you failed to do so.


No, I didn't fail to show you.

I told you a number of times and also every media outlet that reports this will tell you the same thing.

You are insane at this point...

2 years ago

Either way,


There is no either way.

It is only one way and that way is the way that states that Qatar owns Al-Jazeera...

2 years ago


No, Buck. Your argument is that Joe owns a car, Joe works at Walmart, Walmart owns Joe's car, and that just doesn't wash.

 

2 years ago

"What is the point truly of all this?"

I awas wondering whether the Emir versus Watar owning Al Jazeera really mattered.

Al Gore YES.

2 years ago

No, Buck. Your argument is that Joe owns a car, Joe works at Walmart, Walmart owns Joe's car, and that just doesn't wash.


You are insane, I know.

Revisit this logic above and tell me that you think it is valid...

2 years ago

I awas wondering whether the Emir versus Watar owning Al Jazeera really mattered.


Well, the Emir is the government of Qatar...

2 years ago

But there is private ownership versus public ownership.  Or maybe not is Qatar.  Got it type free this time.

2 years ago

Joe's car is his own personal property, not that of a corporation or entity he works for.  Because he is an employee does not really meet the same criteria toward ownership of anything other than that which is his.

I don't follow the logic in it Christian. 

2 years ago

I don't follow the logic in it Christian.


It's because it was not logical.

It was gibberish...

2 years ago


"Joe's car is his own personal property, not that of a corporation or entity he works for."


Bingo.


2 years ago

No not really a Bingo...

Joe doesn't have to answer to the stockholders or money people behind the entity.  What's his is his and not part of any corporation or association.

2 years ago


Oh my goodness, Suzanne. Oh my goodness. I'm going to leave that one completely alone.

 

2 years ago

The Emir is the government of Qatar therfore the government of Qatar owns Al-Jazeera.

Bingo.

If Joe was Walmart your logic could apply, but Joe is not Walmart. The Emir, however, is the government of Qatar.

They are one in the same...

2 years ago

Christian, per what you say he is an employee of Walmart.   Did Walmart buy him the car?  He is a person who works for a corporation.  How is his car anyone's but his? 

We are not talking about individual workers here.



This post was modified from its original form on 04 Feb, 14:17
2 years ago

Oh my goodness, Suzanne. Oh my goodness. I'm going to leave that one completely alone.


Don't be so quick to judge. Don't forget you said this:


Dick Cheney was CEO of Halliburton, so I guess that means the US government owned Halliburton.


That might be the most non applicable illogical statement made in a debate ever around here...

2 years ago

He has been like this for years and years and years, Suzanne...

2 years ago

Obviously, I must be missing something. 

2 years ago

No, he is missing something, a lot of SOMEthing. Most call it common sense...

2 years ago


Yes, Suzanne is definitely missing SOMEthing ...
 

2 years ago

  Christian, for some reason that opinion coming from you will not make me lose sleep tonight.








This post was modified from its original form on 04 Feb, 15:43
2 years ago


It's amazing that even when something is explained very simply, it is still misunderstood.

Welcome to American Politics as hosted by the Buckmeister.
 

2 years ago

Yes, Suzanne is definitely missing SOMEthing ...


You are toally stealing my line...

2 years ago

Christian what you said does not apply.  If you feel it does, please explain. 

2 years ago


What I said does apply. Please re-read it.
 

2 years ago

It's amazing that even when something is explained very simply, it is still misunderstood.


Well, get some other people in here to read through this and then we will see who is misunderstood. Until then why don't you write all the major news networks and explain to them why they are misunderstood.

You should set them straight using your infallible logic.

Be sure to use the Cheney one for sure. That should set them straight and line up the retractions...



This post was modified from its original form on 04 Feb, 15:47
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