no hating an individual is perfectly acceptable if you hate is acceptable. you have to have a valid reason. Like I doubt there is anyone here who doesn't hate Hitler. But this group is against the rascism, fundementalism, fascism, all of the hateful ideoligies.
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Bush should be in jail like any other murderer. I would not put him to death however. I would put him in one of his prisons like Gitmo however. Or let him sit on death row like in Texas and leave him there wondering until the day he died. Since that is how he belives people should be treated, why not let him endure his own type of torture for a life time. Death would be too nice for him however. That would be showing kindness for his murderous deeds. I don't hate, I even the score. Hate consumes ones soul. Evening the score however feels pretty darn good.
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October 28, 2005 9:57 AM
I don't hate anyone. I may hate the things they do, but not the person.
Someone once said to me that hatred is like acid. It does more damage to the vessle in which it's stored than to that on which it's poured.
Evening the score means bringing people to justice. Not making you lower yourself to their standards. You have made an ssumption of me that does not exsite in my mind. Bringing the Truth to the surface is Evening the score so all know what is really happening. You obviously don't know me or how I think. Never Assume. You may find that when you assume you could be very wrong. I understand what Hate does more then you ever could imagine.
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So according to the philosophy of not hating the person, I am to assume that believers of this theory never hated Hitler, just his acts. Perhaps we sympathised with the young artist before he became a tyrrant and even when he was one because he took the wrong road.
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revenge and hate... October 28, 2005 11:38 AM
First off...I agree with Destiny regarding hate being toxic to the hater and not the hated...if I hated Bush (who by the way is now in my friend circle on care2) then I would feel it...he wouldn't even know or care so what is the point to holding on to such negative emotions...and as much as people might hate me for saying this - I don't "hate" Hitler...he is dead - what would be the point...
now revenge and hate to me are two different things...and do not underestimate the theraputic power of revenge...although I am not advocating it and not prone to it (anymore)...really a quick jab back is sometimes all some people need to not stew over an issue and wallow in hate...
Hitler fell victim to his own hate.....we should all learn a leason from that and not follow the same path!
As for hate itself....
Hate can be a very healthy emotion that can inspire one to take action- ie. going to the law about a serious wrong commited. The problem is harnessing that emotion and using it constructively and not allowing that emotion to consume the individual.
In my own life I have seen the poisoned fruits of hate that was allowed to ferment and stagnate. I was anger and hate that lead me to realize that I did not have to end up in an abusive situation simply because I was brought up in one....and to get out of the one I was in. The irony is that I now feel sorry for the individuals in question. That does not mean that I like them or condone what they did to me! I can see karma at work in their lives and I am satisfied with that....
my way is not for everyone and I hope no one thinks that I am saying that it is!
For those that may think I feel sorry for Hitler....
I do not feel sorry for Hitler- he commited truely horrific acts against many people. However, I do not feel that we should continue to hold him up as a monstrous demi-god- that eternally gives him the power he wanted all along and because of his acts does not deserve. He was human and had the same capacity for good and evil that we all have....he is a good example of what happens when we as humans choose to insanely all of the truly negative and evil things that we humans are capable of.
I did not say that and I regret the fact that you draw assumptions without asking questions of me first...considering you don't know me from a hill of beans
Is this just going to turn into a thread or group that picks on people because their oppinions don't mesh with what's popular? I was under the impression that the goal here was to get rid of hate, not to promote and foster it...
If I were alive during the second war, I most certainly would have hated him. However, I would not allow myself to be like him bystewing over what I hate and why. I would instead find a way to channel that emotion into action, which is usually more positive and healthy than allowing that emotion to fester.
Have a read....towards the bottom of the second page are a couple of interesting questions and answers
To each his own I guess- but is there action coming from your hate of Bush? You don't have to answer that here unless you just really want to....just keep it in your mind. I don't want to see you or anyone else dragged down by something so petty as a stagnated emotion....
Hittler..has an ugly infance..he was victim of the bad treat of his parents...anyhow..he was a crazy man..who just made bad things and has a hard.selfish and stupid head.He killed many innocent people ..just cuz he wanted?huh!! cuz he was so crazy!
Yeah..maybe smart..yes...smart for some things..but for the most he was very envy person..with many complejes...
hating him just makes me get up & go to concure him! I don't just Hate I get up & do something about it.
We don't need guns, War or Violence We just need a lot of fingers to take it away from him Bush & Co. Before he destroys it all.
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This is a very interesting and relevant subject – thanks for the post.
I agree with the idea that no one is evil, although his or her actions might be. I truly believe us all to do the best we can. That there are positive intentions behind all of our actions/behaviours. This doesn’t make ‘bad’ actions right but it helps me to feel love and understanding for everyone…
Hate and anger are two different things. Anger does not make a person ugly and rotten either, as is implied. There is a balance though of nonviolence, anger and respect for peoples innate humanity. Anger if practiced non-violenty is a healing force for injustices and should then be held onto with a passion. Anger is like pain, it's an internal warning that something is wrong. Anger in and of itself is not inapropriate or ugly and it does not erode a person - it guides them to stand up for what is right and creat equality.
Generaly speaking many people have been taught not to rock the boat, and have been taught through propaganda that we are ugly and toxic if we demand respect for ourselves or other's being treated unjustly. Who would want to instill that kind of propaganda into us? People THAT HAVE an invested interest in maintaining some form of opression - AND their ENABLER's. Mothers teach their children, especially female children not to upset their fathers etc. So pro-submission propaganda get's created and instilled in us, stiffeling revolutionary actions that call for change and progress. Pro-submissiom myths need to be questioned for what they are, what there real purpose is and how they come into being. Having "social skills" of respect and honor is one thing, and very important, but injustice needs to have a lot more attention placed on it than many are willing to apply.
I doubt Ted hates Bush or Hitlers innate humanity, but rather hates what they do and have done to this world and has developed a high respect for justice and the revoltionary spirit to fight against it. Nothing ugly in that, his "hate" is a precious comodity.
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wow do I wish i could get on here more often... October 30, 2005 12:25 PM
I agree that hate and anger are different...and someone said earlier (sorry I don't remember who): Hate can be a very healthy emotion that can inspire one to take action I don't think it is hate that spurs one to action - I think it is anger that does so...
As for the Bush/Hitler comparison i think that is most valid and I agree with it...in fact I freaked a lot of people out when i made that comparison early on in his first term...Am I angry at him - yes...Do I hate him and would I have hated Hitler if it were WWII - I can't say for sure on the latter...I can say that I strive not to hate since again that is all about me and does nothing to him...
my anger, on the otherhand, spurs me to action...
I've been reading a book on the Green River Killer - if you want to see what hate can do to a person if they choose to live in it all the time I suggest looking at some of these serial killers...or at mass murderers like Bush and Hitler - look where there hate has gotten the world...
I am not suggesting that any of you give up your hate cause you may need it...I am suggesting considering what it would be like if you did...really do you think you would be giving them more or less power if you did that?
(I will, however, suggest you hold on to your anger and let it spur you into action)
How can one work without the other, I mean love without hate? To me I compare it to a battery that has to have both ends connected in order for it to function.
When you bring up Bush, Hitler and other people that are and were hated, aren't they usually hated from opinions we form in our individual minds. I remember taking in a homeless woman a couple years ago and she started talking non-stop about what others did to her. Finally she says to me, "You ain't even listening to me," as she displayed how upset she was at me for that. I didn't have a problem letting her know that she bored me and if those she talked about where here to tell their side of the story, then I'd listen. I feel the same way about Bush and Hitler. Others can hate them but I've learned a long time ago the damage is already done. I can only learn from it and clean up their messes. I doubt our society will be smart enough to learn from any of what is going on so what the hell, I've got a life to life. Let those who enjoy wasting their life with hating that care of the hating part of life.
there are two kinds of hate (generally) irrational hatred of a race, creed, sex, etc, etc. and there is extreame animosity between individuals. bush know that some of us hate him and he hates us back. you can hate an individual. its when you hate a people, creed, sex, ect, ect is when the most adverse effects of hatred start to manipulate the human phyche.
And Hitler was not a victim of his own hatred he was a destroyed human (mentally and morally) Hitler was not a man. not at the point we came to know and hate him. at that point he was no more human than a rabid animal.
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I personally do not hate Bush. What good does it do? I think he is an arrogant bastard who has been handed everything in life. He is however, completely incompetent. This leads me to believe that there are other more atrociously evil people controlling him. Particularily his right-wing christian base. No offence to anybody, but I'm really starting to develop a hatred of christian fundamentalists. They say these Islamic terrorists are so bad, but the Christians are the ones perpetuating hate crimes. That and Israel. Now, nobody better flag me for being anti-semetic, because I am not by any means. Israel has been a major antagonistic force inciting violence and hatred. Ariel "the butcher" Sharon, has been killing Palestinians for years. Israels clandestine agency, the Moussad, is the next largest sponsor of terrorism in the world next to our very own CIA. I laugh when people say "the war on terror". More like the war on non-state sponsored terrorism. Oh, not to mention that Israel has more weapons of mass destruction then the whole rest of the third world. I don't like it. I start getting nervous when fundamentalist religeous groups have nuclear weapons. Call me crazy, but something isn't right here. Maybe I'm biased due to my agnosticism, but is it not considered crazy talk to say that GOD condones mass murder? Or especially that he condones our invading other countries? That totally reeks of megalomania.
When I wrote that love and hate go together and that they work together I comparte it to a battery, which has a postive and negative pole. they're opposites but do absolutely no good unless they are connected. The current flows fom one pole to another just as love flows to hate or hate flows to love.
I really don't care to get into Bush, Hitler or whatever Ted's reasoning is about anything. That is something to address Ted about. This group seems to going in a direction I'm really not into as I thought it was 'Death to Hate. From what I'm reading it seems more like the "Birth of Hate."
"Hating them, for me serves as a reminder to never forget what they have done."
I can never forget what they have done...and I don't have to hate them to do that...it takes a whole lot less time and energy for me not to hate them...I lose nothing and gain quite a bit by not hating them...
... were both elected to control their respective governments. Do we hate those who were taken in by their promises, those who turned a blind eye to the growing abuses of power around them? Do we hate those who said it's OK to go after a given type of person, as long as my group is treated alright?
On a personnal note; I did lose family in WWII Germany and that is, at least in part, why I feel it is so important to stand up against what the current US gov is doing. I will continue to witness, document, and protest what I see. At least until they carry me away...
Considering we are supposed to be against hatred this is a good one to bash it out in. I have very often thought that people who sustain that they have never hated anyone in their lives, are in denial. For me, hate is any deep dislike and even revulsion felt towards another human being - and sincerely I don't know any people who could HONESTLY say they have never felt that kind of feeling - we normally leave that to the saints and admire it in those special people who can live beyond this emotion - and here, of course, I think of heroes like Gandhi and Nelson Mandela - although I saw a wonderful documentary on Madiba (Mandela) and he can be pretty acid with people at times - especially if they keep him waiting! (great).
As I once posted on AI, emotion is a subjective feeling and we cannot remove it with reason - we can control it of course , but that is different. On an objective level, i.e. not emotional, I can reasonably say that I agree that hate is a negative emotion - but is that in itself negative? Maybe not - I don't know. I certainly don't feel guilty for the hate, total revulsion or whatever it is I feel towards people like Hitler, Pol Pot, Deng Zhioa Ping, Stalin etc.etc. But I also know that I will not allow myself to become like them - i.e. to hate somebody for WHAT THEY ARE AND NOT FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE. I think there is a difference when you feel total dislike for someone because of something they have done but I also think it is totally unacceptable to hate anybody because they are different from you by race, sexual orientation, religion etc. By another name we could call this tolerance and intolerance - I might not like you but will accept your being different and will certainly not try to physically harm you - quite another side of human nature is that which will not accept this difference and must try to physically wipe it out. For me this is valid today as it was yesterday and tomorrow - who knows?
why are you yelling at us November 02, 2005 6:52 PM
I don't know of anyone who is claiming that they have never nor will ever feel hatred...I disagree that one cannot change that feeling...
and I do not think feeling something negative is necessarily negative if it is done fleetingly or briefly...I think it is important to feel those things and to learn from them why they have arisen in the first place (And usually it tells you more about yourself then the person you hate if you truly are open to learning the meaning of the feeling)...however holding onto and dwelling in negative emotions is toxic...and only damages oneself not the person hated...
Was that meant for me? I wasn't yelling at anybody - I was rambling on about some thoughts on the subject and if you read it carefully you will see that there is absolutely no yelling and nothing negative - BTW - if the fact that I write in verdana 3 makes it look like I'm screaming - I actually have a hard time trying to read some of the posts - more so when I am very tired.
Jessie, I don't put myself in the same league as Gandhi or Mandela, but I have never hated anyone. I've felt disgust, rage, all sorts of feelings, but never one that I would term hatred.
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Sage, I have to agree. I can't say I never will feel hatred towards anyone. If anyone harmed my children I don't believe I could hold back those feelings. I'd most likely want to kill.
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I know what you mean - about the children. In fact in the post on Ai which I referred to, we were talking about justice and I maintained that justice cannot always be equated with what we would call 'right' i.e. justice is OBJECTIVE and often what we would think to be someone's 'just desserts' is SUBJECTIVE. so, yes, I'm sure that if someone harmed one of my children i would want to see him/her dead - but that is not justice - that is revenge. I think revulsion/disgust are good sinonyms for hatred, don't you?
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It seems like we are really going round in circles and saying THE SAME THINGS - if you really read my post all, you would see that I had said that nobody can be judged/disliked/'hated' for who they are but some people for WHAT THEY DO - that seems to me to be exactly what Destiny said in her last post, so there isn't even an argument here. BTW maybe I have the wong idea about hate - I don't go beyond 'dislike' so I assume that intense dislike= hate.
I dont hate Northamerican people, even when they think they're right on their way of living.
I hate Bush war's so much cuz he fooled your own people and the entire world with that ilegal invation.
I hate war. I hate religion cuz it make us fight each other, but i don't hate god.
U.S...has been messing up with everyone since Hiroshima. U.S troops, young boys living a hell on earth just beacuse GREED and POWER and CONTROL. Mexico...Texan Farmers hunting us down...we build your homes and your buildings cuz we need the money so much and our goverment sucks as well...
Seems to me like: "We must save every penny, no matter what the cost!"
A walk on the razor's blade, isn't it?
I don't hate Bush. I hate the fact he is prez. I hate to see the decisions he makes and stand there helpless. But I would also hate to see anyone taking that as reason for violent counter-measures. There is a line between disagreement and even strict opposition towards something or someone and hate.
Andreas G. well put. If one is having a Revoluation against Hatred then one can not hate. God does not hate and hitler went to heaven. People are reponsible for creating an enviroment/reality that he could have flourished in and choose to follow him.
Which begs the question again, concentrate on love, not hate? Get pretty angry thou!
I don't understand quiet well what's the point in this topic, but here i go...
Hate is a natural feeling on human behaviour i guess...nothing tells me the opposite. Saying that you don't hate, it's like saying that you don't love either. We might don't like the things that U.S goverment did and still doing. We might not like the one who is taking us all to hell. "We might don't like" It's for me, just a polite way of saying that you don't love that one person who bombs your country. and if you don't love, then you hate. I am honest with myself saying that if Mexico was called "Mejiquistan" we would be hating Bush as well or more.
It should be another hisyory, but Bush is hated. And hate exist just beacause love exists in our hearths too...
Loving your enemy is hard. I heard once a tale that says that one man did it, a long time ago. But he was special.
hate is always hate, doesnt matter who is hated...Bush is just another terrorist, and like that I believe is going to find what he is looking for, like our maximum books says "Quien a hierro mata a hierro muere", the meaning is more or less: " If you live killing, you will die killed" because "hierro" is not meaning iron exactly, is meaning weapons, in fact, knives, daggers.
Choosing not to hate is for noone but YOU! November 06, 2005 7:41 PM
Bush is not worth your hate!
Haboring hate and anger causes stress and health problems not to mention blocks the serenity of your spirit. Forgiveness is a good idea for some people, and if youre not there yet thats ok too, the one a person needs to forgive is yourself. Namaste-Tree
I don't hate people, or Bush. On occasion I may develop an immense dislike of a person, but then I come to the conclusion that someone so terrible, must really, really, be a miserable person. I mean, I think about what they do, and tell myself they must have a miserable existence to not have the consciousness to see the wrong in their acts. I allow myself to see their weaknesses, and see their strengths, it is only in doing this that I can allow myself to forgive them for what they have done wrong.
I also do not judge another persons ability to hate. I think for some people, experiencing hate as an emotion is a necessary step for them to take to move on and heal. Dwelling in hate for a long time, though, can cause long term damage and dissatisfaction. Think about it, if a person goes on everyday hating another person who lives their life unaware, how unfair is that for the hater. Allowing hatred to remain can consume a life completely, I have seen what it can do to a person. It is not healthy.
I've heard it said that the worst thing you can do to a person is to make them hate you. Think about it ... all that negative emotion swimming around in your body can't be doing you much good.
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Absolutely! To me, hate is like cancer.....I feel it's something that, if not dealt with in a constructive way early on, can eat away at the heart and soul until there is nothing left but the hate. I've seen some rather miserable people that claim they hate or dislike just about everything! That can't be a good existance.....
The idea that hate and love is connected is just a matter of opinion that people seem to like stating as fact...I disagree nor do I think one has to feel one to feel the other...
The only opposite of an intense emotion is apathy...and one cannot simultaneously hold an intense emotion for an individual and be apathetic towards them...they might alternate; they just can't happen at the same time...
And why is there so much hate on a board called the Revolution Against Hatred?
Is like in the end, sometimes we can express our thoughts, so, what is all this about then? we have to cross info, and learn, and list, and understand, and stand in the shoes of that one in front of us, pls. The hate is there, ignorance and apathy are not going to end with it.
I've avoiding jumping in on this topic because I have to say that I do hate GWB. I can't help it, no matter how hard I try I continue to hate him and everything he appears to stand for; corruption, lies, greed, ignorance, bullying, and intolerance.
Is it wrong for me to hate? Yes, I have to say it is. But as a human being I am sometimes wrong. Hate is a destructive force, but it is a very human emotion. I believe it was a sad day for the USA when he was appointed president, and I think his actions since that time have validated my hatred for him.
I think the larger issue is what do I do with my hate. Have there been positive or negative results? I was always very interested in politics and have been an activist since my youth. But I have become more active since he was named president. So, with that in mind, I think my hatred has spurred me on to more productive actions. I've sent more letters and made more phone calls to my congressional representatives than ever before. I actively campaigned against him last year and made donations to those who opposed him. I've been on street corners participating in demonstrations. I do what I am able to do.
I really believe that to deny hate is to deny human emotion. We all have the potential for enormous hatred. The bigger question is what do we do with it.
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Underneath my hatred for GWB and everything he stands for lies an enormous frustration- WHY can't he just see? Why can't he understand?
A lot of lives have been lost because of his values and his choices. The environment and the global situation is going down the tubes because of his values and his choices...his lies and his deceptions and his militant denial...
I hate what he and his cronies have done to the Constitution and the Bill of Rights... what they've done to women and children... and poor people...
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while I said what I said (and meant every word of it) I feel like adding that the energy of hatred isn't much of a solution if it is just left that way..
I've heard it said that hating someone is like giving them rent-free space in one's head..
also I've heard "hatred does not cease with hatred- hatred ceases with love"...
so I would prefer to channel my frustration/hatred into positive social action..and non-violent resistance in every way possible..
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I don't hate Bush, I hate Bush-type behaviours. To hate the man himself would be to let a whole LOT of other people off the hook--such as Cheney, Rove, DeLay, Rumsfeld, etc. I deplore the things they do, their policies, their hypocrisies, their lies, their behaviors. I deplore the fact we here in the US have allowed this to happen. Let's face it: there are a whole lot of people in the world like Bush and his cronies, and I can't focus all my time and energy hating them. We have to accept these behaviours are wrong, then set out to remedy them.
Hatred of people, after all, is what ended up killing so many millions of Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, political dissenters, and so many other groups in Nazi-occupied Europe.
it is not an act of hatred when you despise a person, due to their actions, to the level of hate. it is when you hate because they're republican or you hate them because they're democrat or because they're black or white. It is not an act of hatred to despise a single man due to his actions. but it would most likely be best if you could refrain from that. Never begin to hate someone because if you do you can never let go. how many former KKK members do you believe aren't racist anymore? they are its just not acceptable to be a member of the kkk anymore.
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In my humble opinion those who do bad and ugly things are just poor persons, somehow ridden by demons, slaves, unfree to live a real life of their own, producing death rather than life, they are dieing creatures for what they will reap is the same death they spread. You may feel sorry for them because of their weekness but to hate them would be giving them too much honor!
And those powers who conciously build up their reign on that framework of sin? They are also loosers in the final so I got no feelings to be invested on them too!!
"how many former KKK members do you believe aren't racist anymore? they are its just not acceptable to be a member of the kkk anymore."
unfortunately that really depends on where you live...
so what I don't understand is why people here believe their hate is any different then the hate of the people they are hating...if you choose to hate a racist - how are you any different from them? and why do people choose to blame their choices (choosing to hate someone) on the other person ("so-and-so's behaviour caused me to hate them")? how about if we all just took responsibility for our choices if nothing else? and if your choice is to add more hate into this world that isn't bush or hitler's fault...
I think what everyone trying to say here is that they love our Country But don't trust our government.Well folks if thats the case Then why do we keep putting them back in office.As Ben Franklin said every 200 years we need to get rid of the dead wood.Yes I agree there alot that needs don't in what and how our governmment is run.1st to help the homeless start by using our military bases that are close and open them for training the homesless, like the CCC. They could clean and fix up all of our National Parks,Plant trees,Help folks who could use the help.Plus help lower crime.Hire people who are out of work to guard our Borders.And look at our education that needs lots of help How many kids graduate from High School that can't read pass the 8th grade level .Health care needs help. I say if everyone one of us would think of ways of making our Country a better place to live, Instead of thinking of ways of hating each other. And when you go to pull that level next time you go and vote Make sure you know that person running for office.I feel we need more Ranchers and Farmers in office people who are more down to earth.
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I don't think we can fairly compare Bush and Hitler. Sure, Bush is bad, and I hope he's impeached, but his misdeeds don't approach those of Hitler's. Any suggestion that they do demeans the victims of the Holocaust.
Don't spread hate, no matter how much you dislike G:W: Bush or anyone else.
I really do think that most of us are saying the same thing in essence. It appears to be coming down to semantics. Each of us has our own definition of hate, dislike, love, etc. We are approaching the topic from our own perspective and our own experiences.
Most importantly, aren't we all here because we want the HATE to stop? I capitalize it in an attempt to indicate a global thing. There is global hatred out there. And it is damn scary! (I apologize for the language)
I may say, "I hate reality TV." I really mean it holds no interest for me, I think it is a waste of my time. I say "I hate Bu$h." And as was said before, what I am really saying is that I cannot stand/abide/approve of what his administration has done and is doing in practically every aspect of life.
We all use words with our own meaning, keeping the basics of the meaning, but also having our own emphasis based on our experiences.
Hate, or dislike can be a strong motivating factor to induce change or take action. I have disapproved of the USA action in Iraq since before we "went there/invaded," so I've protested, stood in vigils, written letters, voiced my opinion, and so on. I use my "hate/dislike" for something to motivate me to make changes.
Aren't we all after basically the same thing? Why are we bickering over words?
I would be loath to compare Bush to the Fuhrer, at least at this present time. I am not saying Bush is a good person or anything, either, for repudiating the content of that sign. Hitler is the epitome of all that we fight here, he was a master of hate, and had those he hated murdered because of who and what they were. Bush seems more inclined for self-serving reasons, not for racist ones.
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Michael N. said "I don't think we can fairly compare Bush and Hitler. Sure, Bush is bad, and I hope he's impeached, but his misdeeds don't approach those of Hitler's. Any suggestion that they do demeans the victims of the Holocaust."
In recent times I am less sure of that (and I personnally lost family in the Holocaust) than I once was.
I'm sorry but this list can go on forever, and I won't do that to this group. Even the guards/cops armed with automatic weapons, in full riot gear that I see on my commute to work everyday remind me of my WWII reading. And that is supposed to make people feel safe? They are not going after people who commit crimes, they are there to oppress the people who live here. We may not be in Hitler's germany yet, but we are well on our way to becomming just like that. It makes me wonder when they will be knocking down my door for protesting and writting my elected representives. When will we be made to 'disapear'?
As a Christian, I am supposed to be Christ Like in all ways. I CAN'T hate Anyone. To do so would be hypocrisy.Jesus Loves EVERYONE. Does he love all they do, no.Niether do I. Hate the SIN, but LOVE the sinner.I do not like the Presidents policies, nor really anything about him, but I do not hate him.I pray for him.Why waste your time hating someone. In 2 more years he'll be out of office anyway. JMO,
If you were to ask me do I hate Bush, and you meant, do I hate him in relation to other people, like comp[ared to John Lennon or Martin Luther King, I would say yeah,
but if you were to ask me, do I hate him himself, no. I dislike his deeds, but I don't really see a need for hate. It can't possible help anything.
Anger can be an effective motivator, when not overused, but not true hatred.
Whenever people ask me, "But don't you even hate Hitler?" I say that they have misunderstood- it is not that a person must be overly bad for me to hate them, like it would be for a person who is just really forgiving- there is no relation between the deeds and my feelings of the person.
Sometimes I say I hate a person, but I definitely wouldn't count that as my philosophy.
You will never get less hate in the world until you get more tolerance. We must all tolerate one another. Not hate another person because they hold differant views, or belong to a differant religion, country or race.
Hate ideas, hate actions but never ever hate people. Hatred of people is what leads us into wars as it makes as less tolerant and less able to talk to one another about our differant viewpoints and agree compromises between those with opposing views.
Less hate, more tolerance and understanding that is the message I think we should all be sending.