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My Life "Water" as Sacred January 12, 2006 9:01 AM

MiNi “My Life” Water

 

 

Sacred MiNi

 

The Nakota (misnomer “Sioux”) word “Mi Ni” or “water” in english translates literally into “My Life”, with “Ni” meaning “Life.” It is an ancient word – millions of years old, although this understanding of human existence dispels western “history” theories and misconceptions of “time” based largely upon “christian religious occurrence.”

 

Within the four language groups of the Nakota Nation (the Nakota, DaNakota, Dakota, and Lakota) the sound and letter “n” in the word MiNi does not change to MiDi for the Dakota language speakers, nor MiLi in the Lakota language. Just as the change does not occur in the ancient and sacred word “Canunpa” (misnomer “pipe” or “peace pipe”). This language sound similarity implies the most ancient and sacred aspects of the word. It also signifies the reverence with which the people had for this most sacred, precious, and needed Life Form for human existence.

 

(See www.canunpa.org for more info on this subject)

 

Today, MiNi is contaminated by greedy corporate and government policies and misguided ideas, based upon ignorance. The health and well being of individuals and communities is sacrificed for the corporate bottom line. Farmers and ranchers employ toxic chemicals and fertilizers in order to squeeze out the maximum profits – creating cancer and disease in their wake.

 

Mainstream americans have become numb and ignorant to this fact, ignoring it completely as they struggle through their stressful lives in the “Wal-Mart-era” of cheap, slave-type labor where they do not question the nefarious actions of the genocidal companies controlling their political leaders and society as a whole.

 

The two-legged must return to their old ways when water was held precious and sacred.

 

 

The Importance and Truth of Pure Language

 

The Nakota have a very beautiful language. It is very pleasant to hear a person speaking this language. Many words are very significant and explain their true meaning and the meaning of life. It is not a conglomerate of other languages - not a confused, “bastardization” such as is the case with the “english” language.

 

Sunka Wakan (“Mysterious Dog”; horse) is another significant word in the Nakota language. Tens of millions of years ago, the “Dog on the Prairie” was small with three toes and roamed the plains in herds. Millions of years later, the “Dog” mysteriously grew taller and needed only two toes. Later (today) Sunka Wakan is tall and has one “hoof”. The importance of the word Sunka Wakan is that it reveals factual evidence that the Nakota are indigenous and were always from Great Turtle Island (not from Asia; bering strait theory lie).

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 January 13, 2006 1:22 AM

This is very informative.  I love the sound of the Lakhota language when my Lakhota friend "Hoss" or Koda speak it to me.  I must admit I do not understand what they are saying, and they have to translate for me, but I am trying to grasp some of the language as I have grasped Hau MiKola to greet my friend Hoss when he comes to chat with me.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 January 13, 2006 6:10 AM

Laurie.... women don't say Hau! that is a man's word! you can Han (huh with a nasalized a)... kola is another man's word... women don't say that... we ussually say something like Han, nitaku he? then start in the conversation right away, giggling and laughing... now if you were REALLY vish tradish..lol... you wouldn't talk to a man at ALL... your brother would speak for you... and your male relatives wouldn't even speak directly to you except to your husband... but of course that is not really possible in today's world...  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 January 13, 2006 7:20 AM

We hold living water sacred.........  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Pureness January 13, 2006 7:31 AM

Before the "columbus era" (and the xtian teachings) men and women could converse freely and the water was pure and clean. People could swim naked and not look at it as "sex". That is why we need n=more nude beaches in the midwest!!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 January 13, 2006 8:29 AM

This is what I was taught Scott... from my mom, dad, grandma, great grandparent's and other relatives... that long time ago.. and yes way before the christian era and columbus, way long ago that there was so much respect for women that men did not talk to her directly, even fathers, and brothers, they did in the privacy of the tipi... I know that even today if I am asked to speak up in a traditional circle... like the wacipi or someplace like that, a give away or other event, I had my brother speak for me.. now I am married and my husband can do that. My husband doesn't talk directly to my mom and my mom doesn't talk directly to my husband either, they speak through me, they could be sitting at the same table and they speak through me... there's cultural variances according to which tribe people belong to of course! So this is NOT the only way... and even with other family members this is not always the case,... it just depends on what people want to carry on. But not talking directly to a woman had NOTHING to do with her being inferior in any way shape or form. It was respect, and as a Lakota young lady when I became a woman I was told what was expected of me by my female relatives, and if I chose another path what people would think of me.. anyway to lay "blame" on the Christians for not allowing women to be spoken to, is an entirely false misnomer in traditional Lakota, Nakota, and Dakota societies...NOW, if you want to say that there has been a paradigm shift in the way women are thought of today and that Christian idelogy is at the root of that shift... then yes I will agree whole heartingly with you on that.. because that is the truth.. women are not treated with the respect they deserve in our societies today, they are not treated with repsect and equality, nor as the lifegivers they are, the heart of the Nations, the heart of the family.. of course we as women have to earn that too! We can't say all that then go out and do drugs, drink, and sleep around and have tona kids from tona men! Nor can we sit around and gossip about so and so and who they snagged last weekend or who got a car they couldn't afford, or what that one did to get a job!... so there is a lot of learning that has to be done, or rather relearning...  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Good ole memories January 13, 2006 9:34 AM

Siyo Joye,

I nearly became educated the same way. My Grandfather was the one who talked, my Grandma stayed quiet. We got permission to speak, when they thought it would be right. When the family came together for a celebration, we ate together, the women served the food, first got the Elders, then the men, then the children and at least the women. After meal the crowd separated, the men stayed in one room and the women in another room. There was a separation so to say. I remember my dad once tried to just look in the room with all the women inside, , you should have seen my Grandma then, my dad never did it again.

And there was a big difference between inside the house and outside the house. My Grandma was the boss inside the house and my Grandfather outside, so to say.

My Brother and me became educated in different ways. He had more freedom, was able to run free outside, while I had to help my Grandmother, but Im glad about all the things she taught me. I realized that a lot of young woman are not able anymore to sew, to cook and whatever.

Sometimes, when I was ready with my work, my Grandfather took me with him for fishing or hunting or just to the fields and he shared his knowledge with me. That were really precious times for me.

As a child I thought it was unfair, huh. But nowadays I think its ok. There would be more respect between men and women.

About the language I have to say, I believe that a language carries the Spirit of a Nation. Its alive. To learn a language just with books and cassettes seems not the right way to do for me. Over here a lot of People learning the Lakota language from books, written from white authors, hehehe. Im sorry, but I have hard times not start laughing, when they start to talk it. I never learned it, I denied it to learn, cause I think the right way is to learn it from listening to the people who really speak it. That means to live with a Nation and then to learn the language. A language is not just a summary of vocals and consonants, its much more, its a big part of the roots from a Nation. I think we also should respect that.

I have hard times to learn the Cherokee language. The words and expressions I use, is what I learned til now directly from the people. I heard them!

Dohi

Kerrin

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 January 13, 2006 9:35 AM

Yes Dian,

living water is sacred! Wado

Dohi

Kerrin

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 January 13, 2006 12:52 PM

My husband doesn't talk directly to my mom and my mom doesn't talk directly to my husband either, they speak through me, they could be sitting at the same table and they speak through me...

This part is same with DaNakota! But women could always speak in public - especially the Grandmas!! (and you didnt want to get on their wrong side!!).

Also the Ho Cank (misnomer "Winnebago") are similar to DaNakota in their ways and sometimes women are Principal Spokesperson (misnomer "chief" [latin word for dictator]) for nation.

Oyate Omniciye includes all men and women alike in true balance (they desperately need to get back to this).

In the Life Renewal Lodge and Sun Dance, these aspects become clear if you have an open mind and embrace the Circle.

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 January 13, 2006 2:51 PM

You know.... I can speak in public... other women too,... I said when asked to talk like at a wacipi like a giveaway, or something like that in a formal setting in the circle and out of respect for me and my family... growing up you just kinda learn where and when.. don't mix up a social gathering with tribal council... I have spoken up at council, and believe me, those unci's speak up as well, and women have never been denied being on council if they wanted.. my mom was in the 70's, my aunts have been,,, You know I have been to meetings, traditional meetings (not tribal council, elder councils if you will and other meetings of spititual leaders), and the women weren't in the front and center speaking, we stay in the back, when we need to say something, we do... I think you may be confusing what is generally accepted as equality and defined as equality from a western standpoint... equality among our people did not mean doing the same tasks or being in the same place on council, or being leaders.. heck we always had women leaders, white historians never wrote that down true but doesn't make it any less true... I am curious, you are the first person I have met who uses the word DaNakota... I am Lakota, from Cheyenne River ( in SD, now I live in WA of course because this is where my husband lives), but I have traveled to every reservation in North and South Dakota, I used to live in MN and traveled to almost reservation there, been to NE... I was born there, and I know some of the Hochunk people there (I was born at Winnebago)... I know Potowatomi, Omaha, and many others from around NE... but this is the first time I met someone who says DaNakota... I am just curious that is all....  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
DaNakota January 13, 2006 4:00 PM

Ho Cank and DaNakota are my mom and dad's Indigenous Red Nation ancestry. Ihanktunwan DaNakota are sometimes referred to by some uneducated or unwilling to let the "white man's lingo" go as "Yankton Sioux." Of the four langauge groupings comprising the Nakota (misnomer "Sioux") Nation, Ihanktunwan speak with the "n" and "d" (where a Lakota would pronounce an "L"). This info has been left out of "history" (as we all know who wrote that!!!) and because we were one of the first to take the brunt of initial imperialism of america into what is now called "Iowa" and "Minnesota" and refugeed to southeastern SD (and because we are the caretakers of the Sacred Canunpa Red Stone Quarries), our "history" has been "governmentally erased" so to speak. But yeah, you can always tell where a Nakota, DaNakota, Dakota, or Lakota stems primarily from (although there were no fences, forts, or "property to possess" before the columbus era [you like my columbus era syaing, ehh!?!?])  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
DANAKOTA January 13, 2006 4:02 PM

Hmm well, I am Lakota,been on several Rezs,Raised on an around Pine Ridge and Rapid City,Traveled a lot over the years,friends on many different Rez's among many different peoples and other than on-line, I too have never heard it other than  as one of the four dialects of our Nation so.........

Joelle

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no "leaders" January 13, 2006 4:03 PM

Also, we have highly skilled individuals (both male and female) in all aspects of community and there really was no "leaders" concept - that is also male dominating europen "belief" (and no "chiefs") - everyone was free then. (Ihanktunwan are only language grouping to maintain their Oyate Omniciye versus the force-accepted "1934 act ira tribal council" thing debilitating the nations now.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Timing January 13, 2006 4:06 PM

Well you have to be at the right place at the right time (or just lucky I guess!!!)

(see 1851Treaty.com and also read Vine Deloria and "Noble Red Man")

Also good resource is Arvol Looking  Horse.

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Origin January 13, 2006 4:07 PM

Does anyone in the group know what the original language of all humans is?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 January 13, 2006 4:10 PM

CRYING!!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 January 13, 2006 5:11 PM

I am so embarrassed, this is how I was taught to say hello by 2 Males? lol  Maybe they dont respect me? huh?  lol  I am such a twinky why do I even bother.... well I know why, because I wish to learn from you.  Again TwinkyCrow puts her foot in her mouth.  And you say you can't speak to men, or they to you, what if you have no men to speak for you?  And this forum is direct male/female too so I see that its not a matter of taboo, simply a way of life.  I will learn the female hello and spring it on them.  Maybe I will get a gold star for the day, who knows?   Thank you for sharing your knowledge with me.  Maybe I should just go back to "Hey Buddy!"  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Hello Laurie, January 13, 2006 10:36 PM

Hey, don`t worry!!!!!! Sure you are allowed to speak, hehehehe. And as a single woman, or like me single mum, you have to do. And its a big difference if you are in a circle of Elders, I never would speak without becoming asked for it, with respect to them. Well, apart from that, one should try to forbid me talking, that should become fun. Once a Lakota man, who came to a PowWow over here told me, I would have to look down to the floor while talking with him. he said that would be tradition?! I don`t know if it is, really not, I just faced him and said, I just bend my head before the Great Spirit and went. Beside that, how can I see if someone is a liar when I can`t see his eyes, huh.

I know from the Comanche tradition, that as a single women or mum, you become seen as a Warrior, cause you are fighting for yourself or your kids. A friend of mine told me about.

The Cherokees are traditional matriarchal. But hmmmmm..... a lot of them have forgotten that. We had ClanMothers who ruled the Clans and sat in Council, one from every Clan. No decision for the tribe was made without them. We had two Chiefs, the War- and the Peacechief, who worked together with the Clanmothers. Wilma Mankiller was a famous Chief too. Nowadays men rule the Nations and you will find women just on the grassroots. Its my personal opinion that christian influences are a big reason for the opression of our ClanMothers and women.

Many hugs to you Sister and be proud on what you are!

Dohi

Kerrin

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 January 13, 2006 11:19 PM

Laurie- you are NOT a twinkie..lol... a twinkie is one of those people who THINK they know everything then goes around and preaches it as fact when they don't really know very much of anything..like some of my sisters have said before... I would love for them twinkies and wannabees to come and live on the real rez with little heat, run out of food, car breaks down and you are 50 or more miles away from the store or anything else... in the middle of winter...lol.. yeah I don't think they would last. that's why so many do gooder teachers and doctors don't ever last that long on the rez, it never lives up to their idealistic fantasy, especially when the politicing starts and people start to test their sincerity about staying through gossip and trying to take them for a ride.. hey you need to do this, or buy this, or give me a ride here... ya know what I mean? anyway, you are not a twinkie cause you are seeking knowledge from the source, not through just books written by the wasicu archeologists who just want to make a name for themselves in some academic journal... nope you've come to the source... now as far as speaking with men... I said all that to show what used to be, what sometimes still is, and so when you run into it when you come over here (heh heh heh..lol) you won't be suprised... You of course can speak to men as you wish. I would tell them now that you are learning, they need to speak up for you as well, but not without your consent..LOL... that would get them.. lol... anyway... don't ever feel bad for seeking answers to your questions! Yes I believe in cultivating and preserving our language and culture, but I don't believe in ethnocentrism.. the world needs diversity of culture, it demands it and someday we will realize that without this diversity and celebrating our diversity then we cannot ever find peace among all the peoples...

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 January 13, 2006 11:22 PM

Scott- I know Arvol... yes he is a valuable resource. I also am friends with some of his sisters and other relatives... My original home is Cheyenne River...  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 January 15, 2006 6:14 PM

Thank you so much.  I was really feeling like a overly-sweet snack cake.  We call them Fluffers, thats what new-age Wiccans who call them selves witches are called.  Fluffers.  they all come down to Wannbees. 

Thank you I appreciate this forum it has really helped me understand your ways much more deeply.  I would never wish to offend my hosts (when in Rome...), so this is really good information to know.  I certainly would not want to forget my place anywhere. 

I would certainly look to a man gratefully to speak for me (seeing as I don't know the language, lol), of course I would have to trust him to speak my words.  I guess thats a biggie.  But what could I possible say to a proud people that would honor them if I know nothing of their culture or beliefs.  I thank you for this opportunity and your patience with me. 

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 January 15, 2006 6:46 PM

My Lokhota friend says I am his equal.  He is over 6ft tall and I am a mere 5'3.  I said to him one day "you are so much taller than I am but you dont seem to be when I am with you."  He replied, "That is because I am no more than you are."  His nic name is Hoss and he told me how the horse does not have the ability to differenciate size between objects.  How his spirit is like horse.  To see me as his equal in size although I am really no where near his stature.  Hoss is a very dear friend to me and has never told me to cast my eyes downward when with him, that sounds more like a Dominant/sub kind of dynamic.  But who am I to say it is not the way of the people?  I can only judge as I have experienced, and that is my Lokhota friend.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
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