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 Welcome and introductions February 26, 2006 1:54 AM

Welcome to the group. Please introduce yourself to the group. Remember, we cannot be effective wothout your active participation - say sdomething!  [ send green star]
 
 February 26, 2006 2:12 AM

George, good idea for a group!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 February 26, 2006 2:27 AM

Thanks.

My intention is for this to be much more than a group - this is the launch of a brand new international campaign. It will take us time, but ultimately I hope we will deliver a huge slice of awareness for all the individual weapon campaigns.

I want us to create a Hate-Weapon Charter. Specifically listing every type of hate weapon. I then want every government to sign up to that charter.

But, we are starting small - any help/suggestions you can give regarding the look and feel of the group - our wording and phrases etc. please comment.
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I'm here! February 26, 2006 8:15 AM

Thanks for the invite.

1st off the term hate weapons.

If we aim to win over others who are not informed, can this be possible by using terms that polarize?

The military uses dispassionate terms such as "colatteral damage". That's code for "oops"!

What I suggest is that instead of using terms that will propel others into emotional debate, we instead use a glossary of terms that is used by those who leave these weapons behind, and redefine them in more understandable language.

Depleted Uranium: No Child left behind.

I don't believe that these weapons are left behind by people that hate. They are instead inconsiderate and uncompassionate. We should show them for what they are, and how that impacts the lives of those who must stay there after the conflict has passed through.

Thoughts?

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 February 26, 2006 12:58 PM

Thanks for the feedback John. I generally agree with what you say.

I'm very keen to have a simple self explanitory collective term for weapons of this ilk. Hate weapons is punchy and new, which is going to be a particular aspect of our message - we will be inventing our own terminology. So.... Feel free to suggest alternatives, Hate Weapons is a place holder and as soon as we come up with something suitable it can be replaced or may used for some particular examples such as those cluster bombs designed to look like childrens toys, which, I would suggest are used by people who hate.  [ send green star]
 
anonymous Hehh count me in George March 02, 2006 3:25 PM

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 March 02, 2006 4:10 PM

Welcome aboard Agnes.

As I see it, right now we are an "upstart" group. We can therefore afford to be controversial which is why I like the term "Hate-Weapons" - it should stimulate debate.

My premise is that these are weapons whose design lends them to being used, even inadvertently in a hateful way.

I realise that this may cause some people to pull back from supporting us, but I reckon later in the game we will have developed a more subtle form of terminology.

So long as we remember that it is the weapons, not the people that we are against and wish to see banned. Of course, any campaign of this nature is going to attract some pretty nasty enemies, we must accept that and refuse to allow them to distract us.

Before I start recruitment, I think its important that we have some content that illustrates what we mean and for that I would like to ask for your help - Could I ask for you early joiners to scan the web for news stories that illustrate our point.

This is all going to get very political I'm sure, and I'm keen for it not to be an opportunity to bash particular targets. I reckon every nation in the world uses these weapons and we need to remind them of the impact.

For example, most nuclear weapons are designed to take out huge civilian targets, we only have to look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki as examples of that. For chemical weapons I think about the way Sadam poisoned the kurds in order to solve a troublesome civilian problem. We all know the problems with land mines and cluster bombs - especially those designed to look like childrens toys.

Maybe we can track down some recent news stories to illustrate these issues?

A also welcome full debate with people committed to ridding this world of this sort of weapon - thats you guys! This is new ground for me, I have a strategy that will take us beyond first base but there's loads I'm sure I've not thought of.
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anonymous  March 03, 2006 10:26 AM

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 March 08, 2006 2:22 AM

Hello everybody!

Thanks for inviting me, George!

I agree with John that the term "hate weapons" may be misleading, however, I can well understand your idea behind it, George.

Those weapons are left behind out of negligence or devil-may-care attitude. Perhaps we should call these things "Weapons of Mass Indifference" or the like...

I hope, I can add my little share of voice and effort into fighting these nasty things!

Great group!

Cheers,
Andy
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Oops: correction March 08, 2006 2:27 AM

I just seen the list (should have read that first).
Landmines & DU residues fit into the scheme I mentioned, but not the rest.

The rest is just human-despising.

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 March 10, 2006 10:50 AM

George, thank you for the invitation.
It is good to see gender balanced hosting!
I hope this group will grow, develop and relate to other groups at care2, local groups and organisations where we live, national and international.

Best!!!

Jouni

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 March 11, 2006 4:32 AM

I like the term "Hate Weapons". It is punchy and to-the-point.

There is NO WAY we are going to avoid controversy. Especially from the "U.S. cannot possibly do any wrong" crowd. {Or the UK, or any other country -- but they are especially vocal in the U.S.  Hmmmmmm, wonder why? Is anyone behind that?}

I suppose in Orwellian newspeak, that crowd is going to call them "Love Weapons". Intended to do good. They are Love Weapons, they don't hurt anyone, and, besides, the U.S. doesn't use them anyway, so why the fuss!

Thank you for inviting me, George.

Should be a different title for the group than "Aftermath", tho. I thot it was a punning title having something to do with mathematics!!!

That will take some thinking about. I think the name is misleading -- after what? "After" something -- that's good -- too late at night to think about that now.

This is a needed group and concept.

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 March 11, 2006 4:43 AM

Thanks Barbara, this is why you have been invited at this early stage - all is open for discussion - it is important that when we launch our campaign proper that we have a clear vision that has a very speicific outcome in mind - we have all seen campaigns deteriorate to nothing because they got side-tracked distracted by irrelevence.

We are still open for alternative group name suggestions - I've not set up the website yet and therefore little is set in concrete.

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 March 11, 2006 5:15 AM

How about "AFTERMATH OF GRIEF".

Think of it as a film or book title.

It is to-the-point, and alliterative, with "f's".

And, it can't be confused with anything else!

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Great subject March 11, 2006 10:48 AM


Congratulations George on the creation of this group. It was certainly needed.

All war weapons are evil, but “Hate Weapons” mentioned in this group (Land mines, DU residues, etc.) are particularly heinous because:

a) They mainly harm innocent civilians of all genders and ages.

b) The dastardly effect of these weapons lasts for years, decades and in the case of DU for centuries.

c) Hate Weapons (as currently called here) being mostly hidden or unknown, make it very difficult for people to protect themselves from them.

Thus yes, this group does have a worthwhile mission. In my opinion a two pronged one:

1)To definitely ban worldwide, once and for all, the totality of Hate Weapons.
2)To expose and bring to justice the criminals who use them.

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Note: I like Barbara's proposed title for this group "AFTERMATH OF GRIEF”. It's short, descriptive and catchy.


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 March 11, 2006 7:13 PM

Unfortunately, I have great difficulty in pronouncing Afermath of Grief when I'm tipsy!

However, I also agree that Aftermath may be wrong too.

Welcome to the group Carlos, I welcome your passion, I hope you will remind us of it time and time again.

Lets get our thinking caps on for a new name. This is the worst decision to make for a group, so I'm going to set a deadline. We must decide on a new name a week today or else we plump for Aftermath.

The last time I went through this process, we ended up choosing the name TimeWatch; This is a heritage campaign and it turned out that the BBC was running a history series called Timewatch! I'm very fortunate the BBC support the TimeWatch campaign otherwise they would sue me.


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 March 11, 2006 7:28 PM

Hi Carlos,

I do not think that we should seek to bring those that use them to court. My reasoning is that this brings in a whole different can of worms that we do not need to address at this time.

Let's focus on the single issue of getting them banned and lets make it as easy as possible for countries to sign up to it.

This is why we need to spread the mesh of hate weapons wide and that is also why we should not look for justice. Some weapons in our list will definately be completely abhorent but others right now may be generally acceptable. Like all good campaigns, this one seeks to change a global mindset.

Right now, we have a number of campaigns aiming to ban individual weapons.

The effect of this is that only specific weapons are banned.

What I want to do is create a list wherebye all weapons, except those a country opts out of, are banned.

Although this approach may seem like a bit of a soft one - allowing couties only to sign ut to certain bits of the agreement, I think it would emphasise the bits they had not agreed to and give us something to focus on for each country.

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 March 12, 2006 2:34 AM

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 March 14, 2006 11:25 PM

I would like to express the idea of Costa Rica as an example here. How many countries in the world don't have the official army and all hierarchical and political structures pertained to it. All modern weapons have been dreamed/intended/designed by men, companies leaded by men, used armies leaded by men (if you know exceptional women in this matter it is of curiosity). If one think honestly the idea and existence of Costa Rica without army without all hate weapons named here we know it is a realistic possibility for all other countries to obtain, to take steps towards that direction. Thus i would like to suggest name for this group After Army, abbreviation come close to AA-movement but, aren't guns about addiction too that men suffer...    [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 March 17, 2006 7:40 AM

Thanks for the invite, George

        

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 March 17, 2006 9:03 AM

Hi George

Thank you for the invitation 

Is good to be here and i hope i can be active always..with my participation.

Good that our dear Elle be the other host here

Hugs

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Hiya March 23, 2006 2:33 PM

Hi guys, just popping by to check out the group, Thanks for the Invite George!

Now I'm off to read the threads!

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 March 23, 2006 2:59 PM

Welcome aboard folks.

We are still very much in startup mode at the moment. Doing initial research and working out what it is exactly that we are trying to ban!

The basic idea is to have a long term strategy aimed at getting an international convention on the banning of what we are calling for the moment "hate-weapons".

This treaty would be an umbrella agreement that allowed countries to buy into it and be selective about which elements that ratified.

Whilst I can see that this approach could be labelled as "letting countries off lightly", I think it has the following advantanges:

1. By including a wide range of weapons, we should be able to combine the focus of what is currently a disparate set of campaign groups. This should allow the issue to be pushed up the agenda.

2. Once a country signs up to the convention, it will be clear what weapons they currently condone by the failure to ratify that section.

3. This should allow us to create and evolve a long term strategy against hate-weapons, which come in many guises and many are yet to be invented - by creating a broad understanding of what we consider to be hate weapons, there is potential for society to avoid their development. The surrent situation is that we wait until the ill effects are demonstrated before trying to ban that specific type of weapon.

I reckon it is going to take upwards of ten years to make this thing fly, so don't expect any miracles. But in the mean time, we have a group that can focus on a range of campaigns related to hate-weapons.

We should look for specific causes that we can use our group to make a difference with as initial training before we launch our own "Hate-Weapon Manifesto".

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Estrellita from kissimmee, Fla! Hello! March 27, 2006 2:48 PM

Thanks For inviting me George!Essie  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Salaam March 27, 2006 2:50 PM

Thank you Sid for inviting me to this most important group.  Looking forward to learning, sharing, and making a difference.

love & blessings, A'isha

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 March 27, 2006 3:20 PM

Welcome everyone!


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Great group!!! March 27, 2006 8:53 PM

Hi there! Sid thanks so much for the invite.

The group goal is amazing, I totally support it.

..Sorry for the language problem but I don´t understand what 'aftermath' means. Hope you can clear it for me.

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anonymous  March 27, 2006 8:55 PM

Hello group. New member here and I am looking forward to being here. Hope everyone is doing great and life is better today than it was yesterday.  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
 March 28, 2006 3:02 AM

Aftermath is an english word that means "as a result of" and is very often applied in a negative context in situations where large scale devastation has occured. For example, "the aftermath of the storm resulted in thousands of homeless people". it is also used a lot when describing the negative effects of wars.
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 March 28, 2006 12:04 PM

Hi George .. thanks for the invite.    [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Thanks March 28, 2006 12:41 PM

Thanks for the invitation.

This is great idea. I hope I could be useful around here.

Abdullah Ayyash
Saudi Arabia

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 March 28, 2006 12:44 PM

Thanks for the invitation Barbara. Hard stuff to admit or have to look at but there it is.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 March 28, 2006 12:49 PM

How much does it cost to manufacture munitions and how much is the profit? Obscene beyond belief. Tax payer is paying, all is fair in love and war, devil take the hindmost and everyone is seeing terrorists behind every tree. You want to make huge amounts of money super fast? Position yourself properly for any major war and you stand to win a big paycheck. Slaughter of humans: The most lucrative business on the planet. What's really going on? Follow the money, that will tell you.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 March 28, 2006 1:36 PM

Thank you so much for the invitation Barbara.  I am so glad to be part of this worthwhile group.

I like the name 'Aftermath of War'.  Much more to the point than just 'Aftermath'

As for 'Hate Weapons', I'm not sure.  I'll have to have a think about it.  I'm sure you will all solve the naming problem before I am done, but that's ok. LOL

We have a fantastic group visible here and I'm sure invisible as well.  My sleeves are rolled up, let's get to work.

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 March 28, 2006 1:38 PM

Thank you for the invite George.  Sorry it took me a while to write something, been overloaded with work

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 March 28, 2006 2:03 PM

HI

Thanks for the invitation. I think this is a great idea. I would be honor to be a menber of this group 

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Great Group.. March 28, 2006 2:25 PM

Hello, George, thanks. I am having lots of trouble staying online, but I have a passion for this particular subject, and hope I can learn and offer something, everyone is so busy these days, but to take the time and start this necessary discussion is honorable, and important. Good to see Jouni here, he is so knowledgeable about these things, and Paola, and you others, glad to meet you. Hope I can come back soon, and will check in as much as I possibly can, good name, I think "Hate Weapons" for that is what they are!! It is total insanity to put up with this culture that supports these military industrial complexes, and their non-purpose! Aftermath is a problem, and it must stop. Thanks for your dedication...hosts...  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Let's work to ban all War !!!!! March 28, 2006 5:17 PM

We are at a point where we can impliment a global proposal, that is once the Bushites no longer have a stranglehold over all of us, to empower the U.N. with enough military power to control areas that are in dispute.

Thanks for starting this group this area can never get enough attention! 

 

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 March 28, 2006 5:30 PM

Wecome aboard.

I tend to agree with Sarvo - look to the moneymen, not the politicians.

I feel strongly that we need to keep politics out of this - doing the right thing is a question of moral ethics, not political bias.
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hi March 28, 2006 5:38 PM

george, i agree with the term 'hate weapons'. how else can you describe them?? the reason there's so much profit to be made from these weapons is that we ,the taxpayer,pay for the research + development of them,then private companies get the contracts to build them + sell them off worldwide. no financial risk,just lots of profits from maiming + killing. can anyone remember new labours election promise of an 'ethical foreign policy' back in 1997??!!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 March 28, 2006 7:24 PM

Hello George and all! Thanks for the invite Barbara. I think this is a very worthy cause. We just gotta get our azzes out of Iraq first!  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous  March 29, 2006 2:19 AM

Hello everyone - thank you for the invite Sam   [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous hi March 29, 2006 4:30 AM

Although I'm too lazy to read all the "welcomes", I think it's a very interesting and urgent topic.  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
 March 29, 2006 5:13 AM

Thanks for asking me to join, George. Wonderful and much needed itdea.

The trick will be get some of the governments to actually give a damn and make an effort to do something. It's one of those "out of sight, out of mind' things.    [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 March 29, 2006 5:20 AM

You are very right Jan. That is why we will need to do a lot more than just sign petitions for this campaign.
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 March 29, 2006 5:21 AM

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 March 29, 2006 6:12 AM

Hi George! Thanks so much for the invite. I am glad to be here. Here's how I feel about all types of today's weapons-de-jour:

I feel that all forms of hate-weapons, cluster bombs, landmines, depleted uranium, WMD's, MOAB's, etc, should be unilaterally dismantled and disposed of-FOREVER. As long as this world and all its peoples remain in a 'war mentality' we are little more than children playing with matches and the parents are not watching. That is scary. Until we stop production, dismantle what we now have and discard any future plans to create any hate-weapons, there can be no hope for the future. All nations must stop creating weapons of death and destruction or we will have no world left that is not contaminated and unlivable. Humanity must rise above itself or be doomed. I hope we can rise above ourselves.

George, I like the term 'hate-weapons'. I think it almost sums up what weapons are--instruments of hate. But I will take it one step further and maybe you and others will agree or disagree with me, but, I feel they are also greed-weapons. Think about it. Why do nations go to war in the first place? Greed. One has what the other one wants. If one nation cannot get whatever it is that it wants and 'talking/negotiating' fails--they go to war. If one nation cannot buy the other nation's commodity--or steal it through 'treaties'--they go to war. If one nation doesn't like the people's of another nation--they go to war. If one nation doesn't like or agree with another nation's religion or politics--they go to war. GREED AND HATE. It is the fodder on which little men with little minds and little character feed.

It is these men that hate and lust for their neighbor's 'gold'. They infect others. That is also the sickness we must root out and 'vaccinate' against. Their hate is what creates the weapons. They have no love for their fellow man. So, their weapons are a 'gift' that keeps on giving long after their wars are over--because they do not care.

Just my rambling 2/100ths of a dollar.

T

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anonymous  March 29, 2006 1:54 PM

Hello to everyone! Many thanks for the invitation George! What a fantastic idea for a group......looking forward to reading everyones ideas, and learning what we, as individuals can do to make real change on this issue!

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hey March 29, 2006 2:57 PM

thanks for the invite, and hello everyone.
this seems like a really interesting idea for a group...
 peace,
Carmina
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 March 29, 2006 3:51 PM

Welcome to the group people!

Thanks for joining.
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I'm so in April 03, 2006 3:03 AM

Thank you for inviting me. My attitude toward this topic goes beyond social activism, to being very personal. A man I came to love was destroyed by an anti tank mine while serving in Iraq last year (I met him after his return...a maimed and broken man...working towards recovery). I had never known a soldier, never met someone and heard the stories, only read them or heard people talk about how horrible soldiers were and how bad war was...though it was some distant thing to me and I questioned people who protested because I wondered if they really had any first-hand knowledge...well, in my limited way I now do and my emotions toward this subject are very strong.

Below are a few thoughts to share by way of introduction (written some time after the two of us decided to break up because his emotional stability was at stake and after I learned that he'd become suicidal and was hospitalized because of the effects of PTSD and living in a completely different body than he'd had a couple years before):
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Our love was stolen. Stolen by the poison that is Evil in the world.
I pray to God it does not ruin you, but it has burned you, scarred you and made you impotent.
I don't know how I will go on in life.
I am an empty fool--to be pitied if one wanted...and yet, I cannot wallow in the pit I wish to sink into. No, I must perform my duty and serve the life before me by earning what little I can for food and drink and shelter.
I am lost without you.
I am empty music with no instrument to play.
I am a beggar with no eyes to see where best to sit and pray that one would offer generosity.
I am full of lice and my skin is all filth and cracked.
I have no beauty with none to behold it.
I am bitterness and sorrow. I am all the lovely things that have died and withered and my Spring will never come.
One day I will join the flowers in their grave and the cold, hard earth will surround my flesh and consume me.
Oh may my soul rise to heaven and there greet you who have gone before me.
Together we will embrace and see the truest beauty that ever was intended for all mankind when the Lord said, "It was good".
Oh God, give me strength to live, to stand, to breath without my love.
His words lifted me, his eyes beheld me, his hands caressed my heart and now that he is gone I am forever a widow.
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Admittedly, these words are dark, and there is good news, he is getting help and doing better. I guess I just wanted to let you know this is a passionate field of interest as I hate the evil of warfare, and too have mixed feelings about how soldiers are treated on their return (alas, most likely a whole nother group


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 April 03, 2006 3:10 AM

Welcome to the group Jessica, we are going to need passionate and articulate people like yourself.  [ send green star]
 
the name... April 03, 2006 3:16 AM

Just a thought as we all toss out ideas of how to name the group/effort. Aftermath of Grief is good, as it expresses what we're trying to avoid, Hate-Weapons is provocative, as is our topic...and I wonder what you might think of something that says something about the future, like "Consider our Children" or something like that...since one of the main thrusts is how innocents are destroyed by one group's machismo and defense plan and ironically, the people who use these devices likely care most about the ones they wind up destroying.
(I'm not denying that many are self-centered and don't care about others, but most who are fighting for a cause are also thinking of their families and the future their children will have...this may be a powerful angle that should be considered in the name)

Just a thought!
Jess
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 April 03, 2006 3:37 AM

I'm kind of settled on Aftermath of War for now, with a campaign image (not done yet) of a child holding a cluster bomb.

Ultimately, there are quite a large number of issues that will need to be aired regarding this campaign so all ideas are welcome but also we need to be careful not to cloud the message by trying to incorporate all of them in a single message.

Better to end up with several distinct messages that can be focussed towards specific target audiences. eg.

The impact on children
The impact on the environment
The impact on our soldiers
The impact on our morality etc.
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George C April 03, 2006 7:15 PM

THANKS FOR THE INVITE  MIKE OWENS  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous  April 04, 2006 11:32 PM

Thank you for your invite George.i am interested with group's subjects. thank you.

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Thank You April 04, 2006 11:52 PM

Barbara for inviting me to this very interesting group. I have long been interested in this topic and the affect war has on people, especially children! I don't know if any of you would consider chemical defoliants such as Agent Orange a hate weapon. I believe they are because of the disasterous effects on the environment and the people who are exposed to them. Hugs, Elainna  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Link April 04, 2006 11:59 PM

Some of you might be interested in this article on the long term effects of Agent Orange. http://www.salemstate.edu/imc/vietnam/agent_orange.html  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 April 05, 2006 1:01 AM

Welcome to all.

Elainna, I definately agree with you, defoliants I wouls include in the list, probably under chemical weapons, in fact it is odd that they do not appear to be banned is it not? How many other chemical weapons are in use even though we have a supposed worldwide ban?
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Hello George and Others April 06, 2006 5:37 PM

Just signing in.

Keep up the GOOD work...

These "weapons" need to be banned completely and anyone using them should be treated as "war criminals" - The weapons affect the innocent and civilians.....

Myke
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 April 09, 2006 8:55 PM

Thanks for inviting me to this group George. I dispise all weapons and wish they all could be depleted and buried somewhere. I don't understand alot about disposing of weapons in any safe manner. I hope tp learn alot from this group.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 April 10, 2006 8:16 AM

Hello George and everyone, I agree completely with the objectives of this group,glad to be here.

"War is not healthy for children and all other living things"

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HELLO FROM COLORFUL COLORADO! April 12, 2006 7:19 PM

HELLO EVERYONE,

THANKS FOR THE IVITATION GEORGE.  I'M ANGELDUST.  I'M THE MOTHER OF 4 AWESOMELY ROWDY LITTLE BOYS.  THIS IS AN AWESOME IDEA FOR A GROUP.  GLAD TO BE HERE. 

               PEACE & BLESSINGS

                ANGELDUST

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 April 13, 2006 8:38 PM

Hello to all,

Thankyou for the invitation Barbara, and thank you for the group George. Glad to be here, eager to be of whatever assistance I can.

Peace and blessings,

Karimah

  

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anonymous sdomthing sdaid April 13, 2006 8:48 PM

Thanks for the invite! I'm always glad for the knowledge that there are more that believe that war is an atrocity, and the fact that when it's over, the effects linger on... Almost makes one think that human kind is naturally destructive.

Power on! United we stand! NO MORE WAR!
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 April 23, 2006 12:11 AM

Thanks for the invite George! Can't guarantee how much time I will have to contribute, but this is a subject near and dear to my heart, so will try! Thanks for all you do!!

Pax, Lyn

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Thanks for the invite April 25, 2006 2:01 AM

Weapons itself means some sort of hatred. Senseless insensitive hazardous left behinds could be one more term.

Looking forward to awareness campaigns or activities.

The world should be cleared of all such things.

Good to be in this group.

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 April 25, 2006 3:37 AM

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THANKS FOR HAVING ME HERE April 25, 2006 6:43 AM

Thank you George for inviting me to be part of the group and this big worldwide network of people against war, weapons and everything related to violence.......

hope to be present when I can....

love to you all

Jenny

 

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Hello everyone April 30, 2006 5:02 AM

I was really pleased to find this group here. It is truely a cause worth fighting for, and it brings a smile to my face to see all the enthusiasm that is shining through in the postings in this forum. If I may, then count me in!

Petra
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Hi everyone May 03, 2006 6:31 AM

Thanks for the invite George.  Looks like a great group.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous Hello all May 04, 2006 5:57 AM

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 May 05, 2006 9:33 AM

Hello. I'm Andrea. Thanks for the invite....I like it.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
anonymous Hello !!!!! May 06, 2006 10:36 AM

Thanks George for inviting me to this important group! I am not very strong in English, but I am looking forward to reading everyones ideas, and learning what we, as individuals can to do ! 

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Hello All! May 09, 2006 8:54 PM

Thank you for the invitation, George, to this important group. I am honored to join! I live in Huntsville, Alabama, US, and am active in many human rights/ peace & anti-war groups. Lark  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 May 10, 2006 1:09 AM

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Hi Everyone May 12, 2006 12:22 PM

Thank you for the Invitation George.  I can see that this group is energetic enough to get this started for this important mission.  It will take a lot of work.  One of my greatest horror thoughts, are those of all the innocent children and people struck by the thousands of land mines left behind, long after the fighting has stopped.  It's such a tragedy.

I like the name Aftermath of war, or something like Implications of War.  And Hate weapons definately says what they are.    I look forward to helping and speaking out on this behalf.

Ursel
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PS May 12, 2006 12:24 PM

Maybe we can wet up a click to donate site, for banning and ridding of these weapons, much in the same way as we click to donate to save the animals, and others here on care 2?  Any thoughts on this?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 May 17, 2006 2:25 PM

Thanks for the invitation, George.  I  despise war itself and believe that as humans we surely can find a better way od resolving our differences.  I also despise the manufacture and use of the weapons you aptly call "hate weapons" - weapons that continue to inflict pain, suffering and death long after the war has ended. I am with you all the way  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
 May 18, 2006 5:07 AM

Welcome aboard folks.  [ send green star]
 
Hi Fol May 22, 2006 2:02 AM

Hi Group,thanks for the invite George.
I think I'm going to enjoy being part of such a passionate and active group. Count me in.
Its time to put an end to this destruction.
LOL x
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 May 22, 2006 2:06 AM

I'm very excited about this group. This is a much needed wakeup call. Thanks.

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thank you May 29, 2006 5:46 AM

hi george thanks for the invite  . liz

 

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 May 29, 2006 9:28 AM

Thanks Liz,

Welcome.
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 May 30, 2006 2:34 PM

thanks George for the invitation
i think its a good group
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 May 30, 2006 4:15 PM

Welcome aboard.

You have just inspired me to write the first draft of our petition, well done!





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 June 02, 2006 12:40 AM

Thanks for the invite, look forward to it.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 
Hello! June 19, 2006 2:39 AM

Thank you for the invitation to join George.I hadn't thought about it until I read about the group, that there isnt a well supported 'group' except perhaps the Red cross, that actually receives media coverage or is in the 'public arena, re weapons of hate( not sure about that name but people have made some excellent points...pondering on that lol) What a wonderful idea you've got going on Care 2.I've just heard from a wonderful lady (from Women for Peace in the UK)who has just returned from helping the Palestinians with their olive crops and it broke my heart.The'weapons of hate' and the equipment used to bulldoze the homes should all come under the same 'umbrella' in my eyes.Caterpillar equipment is used in this case and I do not buy any 'brand names'  that support this activity.Anyway that is slightly off the subject...Thank you and i will pop in to keep abreast of group activity and shareany info I fel relevant.With love ..Namaste

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introduction "Hello" June 22, 2006 9:23 PM

No - anything I say will be preaching to the choir. I'm glad to be here

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 June 23, 2006 1:21 AM

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 September 18, 2006 1:50 PM

Hello. I just came across this site today after seeing it on a Dutchman's profile. My father spent 4 years in concentration camps, which affected the way I was brought up, and so I was interested to see what "Aftermath of War" was about. I see it encompasses much more than the emotional aftermath.

Leaving hate weapons behind to terrorize the country's already traumatized people is inhumane cruelty. I can't imagine living with that kind of fear, wondering if my children's lives are endangered every time they play outside, even many years after the war. 

I am learning more about this horrendous situation as I read through the threads, and am interested in finding out what we can do to create this much needed change in a money hungry world.

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anonymous Hello March 01, 2007 6:22 PM

Hello to you all. I am here to listen, learn and contribute, if I can.  [report anonymous abuse]  [ accepted]
 
 March 02, 2007 1:13 AM

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 January 21, 2008 4:20 PM

Hi, my name is Stuart.

I have developed a passion for peace.

Having learned about this group only this afternoon, I wanted to join and learn more about this aspect of the subject.

Thank you, George, for Hosting this group.

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 January 21, 2008 5:28 PM

Welcome to the group Stuart. I've not been so active lately, you could say I've been finding my own inner peace.
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 January 22, 2008 6:42 AM

You are not alone.

What happens out there is up to the people out there... all 6 billion of them.

Our strength grows from the thoughts building, here, in the peace and silence of our internal tranquility.

Once the words are form there is hope to help others form the thoughts we have found in our PEACE.

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