Any and all information is good to get out there!† More folks need to know where their "food" is coming from and what happens along the way!
I consider this topic an animal rights subject, thanks Virgil!††
I'm glad to be here, and will participate as much as possible. I've been concentrating on a few other groups, but this issue is very important. Thanks, Virgil.
† I hope all is well, I am also new here and didn't know this place was here till I got a link nice to meet you all ,and hope to know make new friends, the ones I have now don't like that I have changed and turned into a veg but I can't make them still like me.
†But it's good to know I'm not the only one HUgs Angie
Am also new to this group, but glad I found it. I am sooooo against factory farming. I was born and raised on a farm. It makes me so mad to see what farming has come to.† Family farms are dead and gone it seems, and that's sad .†It's all big business now.
Glad to meet you all.
Our membership has just passed over the 500 mark this week!† Wonderful to know that so many are actively opposed to factory farming.† It really is a terrible scourge, especially on the rural comunities like mine where they are everywhere.† I can't drive a mile in either direction from my house without coming across a chicken house.† And when they spray the fields with the old litter, it is just awful.† You can smell it long before you get to it and long after you passed the filed they were spreading it on.† You just can't hold your breath that long.†
And it wasn't that long ago that someone was doing this right in the middle of Pine Ridge on a VERY windy day.† As we were up at Laura's mother's healing center there, standing in the parking lot as she gathered up her stuff to leave, it blew everywhere - onto the neighbor's property, into the parking lot where we were standing (when we saw the clouds of it coming our way, we quickly ran around the building to put it between us and it, but it was too late), and we were sick for days.† It probably even reached the river, as that piece of property backs up to the river.† I'm sure that the tourists who had come to the Lum n' Abner museum/store had no idea why they were sick after they had left.† Probably blamed it on allergies, a cold, or the flu or something, never realizing that it was because they had breathed in all of that contaminated dust.† I truly believe that if more people were to see and smell thee places that they would no longer support them by buying and consuming their products.† What passes for "farming" today is nothing like what it was like when I was a kid.† And what you eat isn't the same, either.† If people only knew wht I know, tjhey wouldn't be able to ever pick up another piece of chicken again and eat it.† I know that I didn't just as soon as I started working for Tyson.† And that was a L-O-N-G time before I ever became an activist.† It never even occurred to me that the same probmes were going on with the other famred†animals as well.† Dont know why, but it didn't.† One I found out, that was it.† It was really a pretty easy decision to make, acrually.† Even if I didnt care about the animals and the workers in those places, I would care about my own health enough to never eat another bite of animal flesh.† The whole idea just disgusts me now.† And I still get sik to my stomach when I smell chicken frying.† It smells too much like the killing room, where all that blood spattered and cooked on the hot machinery.† Ugh.....
Anyway, didnt mean for this to be so long, but I am glad to have other people joining forces to fight this industry, for whatever reason you choose to do so.† Vegan, vegeterian, or meat-eater - we are all hurt by factory farming.† And we have to stop it before it kills us all.† We are just on the edge of a global pandemic of bird fly.† it has almost hit Eurpoe, with only the mountains blocking it.† If it makes it over the mountains, well let's just say that we won't have near as bad of an overpopulation probvlem as we do now and are likely to have to deal with in the future..........
I am new to the group as well! I was a vegetarian for 13 years before I became a vegan nearly 2 years ago. I have been an animal rights activist during the past 15 years.
This November, I will accompany three other colleagues from the Graduate Theological Union to the Annual Society of Biblical Literature/American Academy of Religion Conference in Philadelphia. Along with a small continency from around the U.S., we are using the media, specifically the movie "Peaceable Kingdom" from Tribe of Heart, to raise the issue of animal suffering in faith communities. Our hope is that religious leaders will begin to address this issue in her or his congregation, regardless of her or his faith tradition.
Anyway, that is who I am and what I am up to.
Hello and thank you for the invite Lauren**
I'm an animal rights activist for many years now, it makes me just sick to know that animals are murdered and skinned alive just for fashion, maybe we are protesting in the wrong places, maybe we should focus more on the factorys who after all are bying all those furs just to make money, and what about the designers for fashion? why are they designing fashion with Fur?
here is a link with some great articles
Nice to meet you all!†My family†went vegetarian in May of 2004, about a week or two later†my kids and I†went vegan after learning what happens to the baby chicks of egglaying hens, and the fate of the male calves of dairy cows. My hubby is basically vegan, but if he will still buy things with small amts of dairy in them if he likes it.
I'm sure you have all seen it, but I think www.themeatrix.com is a great site to share with people, as it talks about the evils of factory farming without getting too gross (which makes some people turn away instead of turning against the farming).
What a great group here, I'm glad to be a member and learn ways to fight against factory farming!
I LOVE what's going on in this group!† This is SUCH an important topic to me!† I've been a vegetarian since I was a little girl...Couldn't imagine anything like eating animals made sense.† I stopped it all on my own, as soon as I found out I could live.
Isn't that something?† Some people STILL think they can't LIVE without meat!!!† WE'RE not going to die if we stop, but THEY will die if we DON'T!†
("They" meaning the animals, of course...not the people who think they will die...Hahaha!)† (Come to think of it... with the health ramifications that come from eating meat... especially factory farmed... Hmmmm....Something†people should think about , no?)
At any rate, I think it's horrid what the animals go through.† I realize everyone is not a vegetarian, but I at least think the animals should be allowed a good life and a humane and dignifed death.
I also think it's horrid what people (and pets) are being subjected to in the way of "food" which comes from these "farms," be it meat, poultry, fish, or even produce!† Big corporations and men behind desks are not farmers, and these folks are ruining our food, all in the name of a BUCK!† (Speaking of bucks, IF I ate meat, I think it might be better to hunt!)
This whole entire†business is very upsetting to me, and I'm glad to be part of this group!
Thanks for the all work that you do!
Welcome Vibraceous to this group.† We are very glad to have a committed concerned activist like you with us.† We look forward to sharing with you and I am sure that we can learn a lot from you.† Your commitment to not eat animals is admirable.† I don't know about the RSS feed but I will†inform Virgil about your request.† Have a great day!†† Mike
Glad to have you here!† My RSS feed for my blog is http://feeds.feedburner.com/TheCyberactivist, however it has not been working here at Care2, for some reason.† I have no idea why.† I have resorted to posting on my regular blog at http://cyberactivist.blogspot.com/†and then coming here and copy/pasting what I have written there to get around the problem until they figure it out and fix it, though that didn't even work the other day for some reason, even though we tried doing it three times.† Be sure and let me know if you have any problems with this feed, and I will try and find another feedburner or something to see if I can get it to work.† You can email me at email@example.com†or even at cyberactivist@EcologyFund.net†- either way I will get the message.† I check there more frequently than I do here lately because of my latest injuries and the additional time contraints placed upon Laura and I because of it.† We just haven't had enough time to do as much online as before.† She is taking care of†just about everything - me,†the online work, the animals, plus 10 new puppies we have here now in our little 28' travel trailer.† Not much room, naturally, but it is too cold outside for newborn babies.† Besides, Laura likes to have them close where she can see and hear them and respond at the first sign of trouble.† She also likes to hear the sweet little puppy noises, too.††Needless to say, she hasn't been able to get everything done, especially as she had to do a lot of resting once the crisis was over, as she had been keeping watch over me night and day, having only 6 hours of sleep in 3 days.†
We had intended to update the blogyesterday to let everyone know I was okay, but didn't get around to it, as our "spayed female" foster dog turned out not to be spayed at all (the people who dropped her off at the Humane Society lied - what a surprise!) and so she dropped 10 puppies on us the day the ambulance arrived to take me to the hospital Thursday.† More on that later on the blog, though.† Most of that is discussed, just not my recovery and the fact that I will live!!!!† † I do want to assure everyone that I AM okay now!† The latest CT scan was clear - no sign of a blood clot or any sort of bleeding, though I still am dizzy and require help with a good many tasks, so just trying to do ordinary things takes 3-4 times as long as it should, like just tying my shoes or getting Laura to button my jacket since I cannot do that yet.† But, group members, I WILL BE OKAY!!!!!† so you can stop worrying.† I told you it would take more than this to stop me!† I just have a long, long road of recovery and rehab to do to regain the use of my right side, especially my right hand.† It's frustrating, but at least I won't die!!!!† At least not from this!† After everything I have been through, it would have been terrible to go out like this!† Good thing I am as hard-headed as I am!† LOL!† † It's also great that I have had so much caring support and someone who loves me so much taking care of me.† And I DO very much appreciate the comments everyone has sent.† It has made me feel better top know everyone was caring so much.† And, you never know, it may have been the very thing that tipped the balance in my favor.† Studies ahve shown that the more people that pray/sned positive energy (or whatever) really DOES help a patient recover, even miraculously.† So, whether it was the doctor and the edication, the well wishes from everyone, or a combination of both, the main thing is that it worked!† And it really did tuch my heart very much to come and read everyone everyone had to say.† Thanks, everyone.†
Virgil- So glad to hear that you are doing better.† I was hospitalized for 28 days once but that was over 20 years ago..I didn't have any medical insurance at that time but fortunately the V.A. hospital took good care of me.† Just take it one day at a time and you'll get there.††
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Anyway, my name is Atar and I'm from Israel. I went vegan straight from being a meat eater 2 years ago. Didn't take much to make me realize the right way, but it did take a long time... I was 22 at the time
Anyway... hello to you all!
And I completely agree that there are many, MANY animal groups, but unfortunately farmed animals make up only a small part of what they work on and frequently get lost in the shuffle (many animal groups even only focus on companion animals or what they believe to be "certified humanely raised†meat" and still eat meat, but they are STILL killed in the same slaughterhouses, no matter how they are raised, and it is STILL abuse and exploitation!)†- but, frmed animals certainly do NOT given the attention they so richly deserve especially as MORE of them suffer (BILLIONS!) as opposed to millions when it comes to other forms of animal abuse.† Don't get me wrong here, I am not†saying we shouldn't do anything about other forms of animals abuse - goodness knows I subscribe to quite a few other newsletters (even environmental ones) and belong to other animal groups and do what I can to help, but as this is what I know best because of my experience working for Tyson for so long, and where I saw the greatest need for there to be a group with the sole focus of nothing BUT factory farmed animals, I created it because 1) I could be most effective fighting this due to my experience and knowledge, and 2) I felt it needed more focus than it was getting.(Actually I created the†group at Yahoo [some members belong to both if they post a lot on their own responsibly, in which case I take them off moderation to post freely there as well] about a year before this one, but it is now more of a newsletter, as that group now has quite a few organizations signed up to receive it as such and don't want a lot of discussion getting in the way of the articles, though there is a lot more interactivity there, like photo sharing, link-sharing, file-sharing (for recipes, especially), etc.†- but, this is now the discussion group for that Yahoo one after that one got out of hand and†voted to go on moderation due to†a few bad apples messing it up for everyone†- WHOLE different sort of folks on Yahoo than on Care2, that's for sure!)†
Anyway, welcome to the group!† Glad to have you!† † Feel free to poke around our sister group as well, if you like - you don't have to join to read posts, just to post yourself.† You might find that you would like to be part of both, especially†if you intend to post a lot of articles.† You may have some that we won't see as easily over here.† I try to make sure that the same article are postd both places, so when someone from this group posts something, but not there, I copy/paste it there as well and vice versa.† Though lately, due to my accident and caring for 2-week-old puppies, we haven't had a lot of online time (and are tired from not sleeping, nodding off at the computer frequently, as puppies are not different from other newborns, needing your attention no matter the time of night!), so the groups and my bloghave suffered.† It's only thanks to my great co-host Mike that this one has run so smoothly.† I wish I could say the same for the Yahoo one, but my moderators and members there aren't doing as good of a job keeping up as Mike here is.† Thanks again, Mike!†
Oh well, I am only one person, (well, two, if you count Laura, whom I couldn't do what I do without and who took over completely for me when I was hurt the worst!), and I have had to realize that I can only do so much.† Sometimes I wish I could clone myself.........
What a great group!† I'm so glad to have found it.
I've been vegetarian (close to vegan, but some organic cheese, and occasionally eggs if I personally know the chickens and know they're well treated) for eight years.† It's hard where I live because it's a ranching area and people are very much against anything to do with animal rights.† I get to feeling pretty isolated at times, and question whether there is anyone else who "gets it."† It'll be very nice to have this group to talk to when I'm getting downcast and feeling like no one else cares!†
Thanks again for starting this group!
I also live in an area where the locals don't care much for animal rights, or even a minute amount of welfare for that matter. But that just makes life†a lot more interesting for me (and the locals††† )
Only worse - "Tyson country!"† So, we have not only ranchers and all, but lots and LOTS of chicken houses, and of course, several slaugherhouses, some of which I worked at, though I mostly and most recently worked at the one at Grannis, AR.† Needless to say, ever since I came forward, I don't have many friends (or even some family who still work there) left around here, especially not those who still work down at the plant, other than the inspectors, who will talk to me.† The inspectors†are glad for what I am doing because the plant keeps them from doing their jobs, and they hate seeing contaminated meat go out that may make some little kid sick and maybe even die.† I get quite a few pats on the back from them when I run into them, but Tyson has threatened any worker even seen talking to me with an instant firing, so most won't risk it, even if they wanted to.† I have actually had people pull up next to me in a parking lot, then realize who they pulled up next to, back their car out quickly, and move to the other side of the parking lot, just as I have seen them inside a store, turn their buggy and walk the other way as quckly as possible.†
But then, there are a few individuals just upset enough with the company that not only do they risk talking to†me, but they also feed me info, which is promptly posted on the blog, driving Tyson crazy to figure out who it is that actually dared to talk to me!† Ha ha ha!† They have fired almost everyone I worked with, so it is hard for them to know who is doing it.† And, of course, I will never tell!† Apparently, ever since I left, things got so much worse down there that many of those left got really mad and either quit or started doing things to "get even" with them.† What's funny is that it all gets blamed on innocent ol' me, who just sits here at home and does absolutely nothing but watch Tyson hang themselves, without me lifitng a finger.† They are so unscrupulous in their dealings that there is just about no one they haven't pissed off!† Yet is just HAS to be the "big, bad boogeyman, Virgil" who is sabotaging things, even though sabotage has gone on†down there for years when employees got mad at them over being screwed over.† Hell, I have even been blamed for one of their trucks having a damn flat!† They got so paranoid after I helped Paul Shapiro get in there and get footage of the killing floor that they spent a fortune on security, yet they still had so-called "Virgil sightings" for quite some time, even though I was never there!† The whole thing has been one big laugh for me!
But, I do know how you feel.† There aren't many choices in the stores, and certainly no place to eat.† And there certainly aren't too many neighbors to share your views.† They even still shoot dogs around here becasue there is no Animal Control or shelter in this county (why we have foster dogs now and take in many more dumped animals to find homes for).† That's why just about all of our friends are online, too.† So, welcome to the group!† You will fit right on in!†
Wow! Thanks to Mike, Billye, and Virgil for the warm welcome.† I hadn't checked in on this thread since I posted.
I feel like I met a celebrity now that I realize who Virgil is!† I remember when I first read your story in PETA's magazine.† After crying for the chickens and all that they go through, I remember reading that some worker named Virgil had come forward with this story.† I was amazed and thankful that someone had the decency to do that, instead of just hardening themselves to it and pretending it didn't matter. I actually wondered if there was a real Virgil, or if that was just something PETA added to the story to make it more personal, because I couldn't imagine that a real worker would have come forward. But I thought†that if Virgil was a real person, I wished I could tell†him what a good thing†he did, so it's kind of amazing to me that now I actually can!†
What a good person you must be to go through all of that, Virgil.†It's SO good to know that there really are people who care enough to make their own lives more difficult in order to help others. It's especially wonderful, to me, when it's to help someone who is so easy to ignore, like a helpless chicken. It's†easy to pretend they don't matter, because they can't ask for help or tell you they really do feel pain and fear. So it's very nice to meet you, Virgil, and thank you for all that you've done and all that you're still going through.
Hello. I' m still a work in progress when it comes to going vegetarian and have , through Care2 , become quite concerned with the†cruel and shoddy way that factory farming is carried out , particularly within the United States. My husband, who was born and raised in the United Kingdom , informed me of an organization there that is concerned with campaigning for farm animals . I'd like to see such group started here in the States , though I wonder sometimes just how much support it would get , what with this culture's apparent desire for Big Macs and chicken nuggets. In any case, here's the link :†
And glad to see a animal site where I, being only semi vegetarian(Fish and wild game only meats i eat) won't be burned at the stake.
I compleatly oppose factory farming.
One of the first groups I joined on Care2. Vegetarian-vegan in training. Active for all animals. Volunteering at the Farm Sanctuary Gala here in NYC next month! Love all animals but especially pigs! Am a comic and do some material on animal rights stuff.
I know most of you know about the walk for animals with Farm Sanctuary? If there are any of you that might live close to the Chattanooga, TN area, we are having the walk there this year. And I am looking for a good few men or women Need to make this a big event here. If you have any friends or family that live here, please ask them to email me at firstname.lastname@example.org
I just became a member today.† I'm a very busy person (like most of you, I assume), but I'll try to visit this group as often as I can.† Factory farming is a very important subject to me.†
I just dream of the day when humanity realizes that non-human animals deserve the† same respect that humans do.† Religious or not, humans must understand that ALL animals were created (by God or Mother Nature) for a purpose.
The need to eat is one thing, but the complete disregard for the humane treatment of some beings is another thing.† No animal on this Earth should suffer the pain that human animals cause on other animals.
my name is sharon carlaine and i am heavily into the issue of stopping foie gras production/slae in this country!
i am very new to the care2 network & look forward to meeting all of you!
please sign my petition to mayor daley of chicago to let the foie gras ban stand!!
Love, Light and Peace
New to this group and glad to have found it. I was raised vegetarian. I am very aware of the issues of factory farming. It is apalling, horrific. I really can't stand to watch any more videos. I am very vocal about it to meat/flesh eaters, who get REALLY PISSED off at me. They get mad because they don't want to think about what has happened to the animal they are eating and it will disrupt them eating it?! My response is, "Why would it bother you to eat it, if you think it's okay?"
†I think it is an unrealistic goal to expect or demand everyone to be vegetarian/vegan. But I do not think it is unrealistic to demand that the animal live a natural life, free to be the creature they are and free from abuse†before slaughter.
I am vegetarian 1.)for ethical reasons 2.) have eaten meat and have a disgust (ethical) and distaste (being raised vegetarian, I think) Although I have to admit that I will eat Taco Bell†meat/a†hot dog/and bacon†about twice a yr. At Thanksgiving I eat turkey too. But I still consider myself vegetarian...I have not even tried most meat/flesh. And I do eat seafood, though have cut some seafood out altogether and reduced†consumption dramatically since I learned about the seals and oceans plight. What is your opinion about my vegetarianism? I am curious. Meat eaters consider me vegetarian. But I don't know any other vegetarians personally unless they are on here. I haven't asked them.... Sorry, I will not be vegan. I do buy only free roaming organic eggs/dairy products (except cheese) but I do eat out a lot and I'm sure that is not. I would starve before I killed an animal to live, but Again, what is your opinion?
The good news. Many people that eat meat that I know won't eat veal because of how it is raised and that is especially good because it is an ethical choice. Many are cutting down dramatically on their meat consumption because of health reasons and they have been finding it makes them feel sick immediately. I find that interesting. And also because they don't want to consume the growth hormones. Factory farming is a relatively new practice and will be a short lived one too. The more people hear and see, the more disgusted they are becoming by what they are eating and what the animal had to go through to get to their plate. Again, the ethical reason, the best reason to reduce, choose free roaming, or quit. People are also becoming worried about the increasing deathly diseases from eating meat.
I also believe that you consume the energy of what you eat. So if the animal was abused etc. etc., you are consuming†that energy. (Rise in anxiety, depression in society...) Besides it is DEAD. Not very good energy to consume. I had a boyfriend that will not eat food that was made while the person was angry or in a bad mood. Same idea.
There are also very good environmental reasons for this practice to stop (methane, ozone & nitrogen, dead zones in bodies of water). There are also very good health reasons to reduce or quit; heart disease and obesity (which leads to all sorts of†social and financial problems).
One more important thing. The brain controls our body.†Some diseases are linked to anxiety, depression etc. But I believe all disease has a psychological basis. There is a†book called, "You Can Heal Your Life," by Louis L. Hay.†In the back she†lists diseases and body parts and the psychological impairment that causes them.†I think she is right on! Heart disease is caused from lacking to give love. Now doesn't that make sense?
Sorry it is so long. I just thought I needed to make a thorough introduction.
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I joined PETA after reading about the horrors of factory farming, which entails hideous cruelty to animals and creates all sorts of health and environmental issues. It sickens me. Terrible things happen when animals are regarded as commodities rather than living beings.
HOPE YOU DON'T MIND,BUT I INVITED MYSELF.FARM ANIMALS ARE IMPORTANT TO ME.I LOVE COW'S,WHEN I WAS YOUNG MY GRANPARENTS HAD A FARM WITH COW'S.I JUST LOVED THEM.
SO MANY COW'S AND OTHER ANIMALS OUT THERE ARE BEING ABUSED.THEY MATTER TO ME.SURE HOPE TO MEET NEW FRIENDS HERE.I NOTICED SOME PEOPLE HERE ARE ON MY FRIENDS LIST.
THANKYOU FOR BEING HERE.
I just wanted to introduce myself as I am new to the group. I am Vegan and really appreciate any information we can get from this group. Have a great day.
Hello there My name is Dalia E. Hettfield. I work as pre-k teacher. I'm against all kind of violence and more if this is against animals. The animals don't know how to defend themselves, well, almost. We have to be their voices and fight against those can hurt them. Thanks to James for the invitation. Be compassionate my friends because someone is watching us from above. I hope one day this world will change for the sake of animals and the humankind. Remember three graces for being completely happy or at least we have to try to do our best FAITH, HOPE, AND CHARITY, a simple rule to try to follow it.
GOD bless you all and have a beautiful evening.
Lots of Love, Respect, and Friendship,
Hi Dalia- We are very glad to have you with us. You sound like a very committed person. Feel free to share at any time...Mike
Thank you for the invitation hope that you will help with this human rights scandal in this group!
The VGT Group that i have started here in Care2 will be closed as soon as the activists are free! I hope rather today than tomorrow but we need more power!
Just like this Yahoo group just one purpose help set them free!
Click to join Freedom_for_Austrian_Activists
Sign the petition!! Click above.
We should all work together to get them free or see how the industry will keep on killing the way they like...cheap and efficient!
Hello and thank you, Patricia. Yet signed the petition a few months ago. Thank you, one more time, for this group.
The more vegetarians the better, but many people still are not which means that a few «run from the main problem» others are the main problem (those buying cheap meat...poultry meat), so is there a 3rd way, meanwhile? yes. Join the group that is not ideal but is the best we COULD REALLY DO for now. Bless you.
I'm glad to be a part of this group - but is there anyone out there?
Hello fellow activists. I am catching on old Care 2 stuff and noticed i never posted to this group. I have been Vegan since 2006 and now see myself as an Abolitionist Vegan and therefore, as the name implies, for the abolition of all exploitation of animals for any use. I am also as of today a Certified Holistic Health Coach and I focus on Vegan health and can help anyone who has difficulties with transitioning completely. Feel free to check out my website at http://www.YourVegLife.com
I hope someone still writes in this group.
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I just saw this group and joined cuz Im appalled at the factory farm situation, as you all are Im sure. Im 41 and sadly just found out LAST YEAR. Thats disturbing to me and so I am telling everyone who will listen and even those who wont.
What also bothers me is that there are no federal protections for these animals. Thats disgusting. I am on my way to go vegan, but its been hard snce where I live there is limited options to find alternate protein options. A lady from that "certified Humane' non profit told me that chickens are fed boiled up feathers..Im so angry and disgusted, Im at a loss. Anyhow, I will check out your site Veronique. Thanks.
I just found out about this group and joined today. My heart just breaks for the farm animals to the point where I cannot eat meat. I have some history with cows that makes me extremely empathetic toward them, so this is a wonderful group for me to have found. All except one time, I have given my butterfly points to farm animals, and though all the causes are good, I mean to give all my points to the farm animals for ages to come if not forever. Bless you guys.
Hello.I just joined,and I wonder if there are any current activities?
Hello.I just joined this group,and I wonder if there is any current activity?
Hi Holly. I haven't see any activity in this group in what seem like years. I had actually left it but felt compelled to rejoin to respond to you.