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looking out for one's species April 10, 2006 2:12 PM

I don't think it has ever really been humans vs. animals.  I believe it is natural for all species to co-exist.  Each species needs to co-exist and take care of themselves before caring about another species.

Also, the ecosystem calls for the co-existence of all species.  it would be ludicrous for any species to want to make another extinct. 

Finally, would a lion take care of you before it took care of another lion?  Also, should we stop carnivores or omnivores from eating meat so you can set your agenda?

If so, then we would have to make vegetarians out of carnivores which would probabbly kill them.

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Yep! April 10, 2006 3:10 PM

Even vegetarianism is causing ecological problems, you have to grow more vegetables, and thus cut down more forests. This also kills animals. , they want everyone to be vegetarians, which would Ironically call for massive fields, destroying the habitats of many animals.

Also, many people cannot afford to be vegetarians. And, I support native rights, but why should they be allowed to eat meat when we arent supposed to?  Isn't that discrimination? The arguements just dont seem logical to me.

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 April 11, 2006 2:28 PM

Even vegetarianism is causing ecological problems, you have to grow more vegetables, and thus cut down more forests.

where do you get your info from!!!?????????? LMAO!!!

dont blame the vegetarians for cutting down the forests..dont blame the meat eaters either..

the number one culprit is KLEENEX!!!

THIS GROUP IS HILARIOUS!! This is a whole new arguement against vegetarians , I truly feel like I am reading comic excerpts from BIZARO WORLD!

PLEASE PLEASE DO SOME RESEARCH!!

 they are not cutting down trees for vegetable gardens..trust me, no worries there!

save a tree, boycott toilet paper..OMG!! ROTFL!

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 April 11, 2006 2:56 PM

Im just saying, if everyone in this world was a vegetarian, where would the vegetables grow? There would have to be big fields to grow crops right? Last I checked vegetables did grow in the ground...  [ send green star]
 
Jan, do your research!!!! April 11, 2006 3:17 PM

Vegetarism and environment

The food you eat has the greatest impact on the environment and meat production is one of its greatest threats.

Deforestation and species extinction
In order to produce meat we need land. When no more land is available to grow the cereals needed to feed the livestock, we have to make land. How do we make land? We destroy our forests by cuting down and we are losing our forest. This means we are losing wildlife species (animal and plant) too. A large part of the Central American rainforest has already been cleared to create pastureland for cattle. Approximately 1,000 species a year become extinct because of the destruction of the rainforests.
It is same problem with fishes, advances in fishing methods is bringing ocean species, one after another, to the brink of extinction.

When we eat meat we ignore that we are also harming the earth and its ecosystem in a way that is not reparable.

Water
It takes 15 more time of fresh water to produce 100 g of beef than 100 g of cereals. The meat production requires more pesticides and other chemical products than the production of cereals.
We want to think that water is not a problem since we are surrounded by it. It is not true. All the chemicals we use are spoiling the water.Water is treated and can be used again but unfortunately it is not 100% efficient and there is water we will not be able to use again.

"It takes less water to produce the food that a pure vegetarian needs for one year than to produce the food that a meat eater needs for a month." ("Becoming Vegetarian" Melina, Davis and Harrison.)

Fuel
It takes a lot more calories of fossil fuel to produce one calorie of meat than 1 calorie of cereals.
Three times more fossil fuels must be burned to produce a meat-centered diet than for a meat-free diet.

Erosion
To produce 100 g of beef, 3500 g of topsoil is eroded and the nature needs many years to produce a few centimeters of topsoil. It is depleted more quickly than it is formed.
In America the topsoil is becoming thinner and thinner and once again we are destroying our ecosystem.

Pollution
The pesticides, herbicides and fertilizers used in large amount to produce the animal's food go into the soil and reaches our water supply, and the animals which live underground.

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 April 11, 2006 3:26 PM

Maybe Jan would like to be enlightened to the pollution factory farming causes?? can anyone figure out where all the MANURE GOES??
LMAO!!!

oooh  the evil vegetarians for ruining the environment..LMAO!

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Sylvie April 11, 2006 9:49 PM

Please attack the idea not the postor.

Thank you.

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