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DFS May 02, 2006 6:34 AM

A letter to DFS office manager This is to inform Division of Family Services that I am requesting an Administrative Review of the Notice of Conclusions that state that the Neglect Charges were found to be substantiated against me. I am in the personal opinion that I have not done any thing wrong to be found as a negligent parent. My case was not investigated properly and there was absolutely no attempt made to keep this family together. Cindy Hiegel, Kim, and Allen Manuel started this with the intentions of (Cindy) winning custody of Vanessa Hiegel and (Allen) getting Rachel Manuel through means of using an authority figure being Division of Family Services. When Kim Manuel and then Cindy Hiegel called Guernsey police department on their own the officer that took the call refused to visit my home stating that Rachel was a very responsible girl and there was no reason for him to come to my home. Cindy and the Manuel’s then contacted DFS, which in turn had a different officer to come to my home and remove children into protective custody until she got to my home (her being Kim Dyer, Platte County Division of Family Services). Not one time was I made aware that my daughter was being taken. The only contact made by Police or DFS was a note left on my front door with the name of Mr. Hiegel, nothing directed to me personally or even as an afterthought. I furthermore, request that this incident be investigated thoroughly and not only as a one sided investigation. Kim Dyer only took the words of “the other Parent” when I tried to present my evidence, she and Katrina Price refused to look at it. My daughter was removed on April 15, 2006; I received a STATEMENT OF CHILD ABUSE/NEGLECT ALLEGATIONS on April 25, 2006 with signed date of April 20, 2006. I received NOTICE OF CONCLUSION on May 1, 2006. (That is when I picked up my mail from post office) (It arrived April 26, 2006) stating that neglect was substantiated against me. Now my name is in a Central registry showing that I am a negligent parent without proper investigation. Enclosed you will find the court documents filed by Allen Manuel (Rachel’s father) where the case in court at the time was a contempt hearing. I have recently attended that contempt hearing and it was thrown out. You will also find as proof of no contact was made to me a copy of my daughters phone bill providing dates in question Because of the inadequate investigation, my boyfriend Raymond Hiegel could possible lose his job due to not being able to keep his “high level security clearance”. Kim Dyer has continually refused o look at any possible evidence that could possibly help Ray Hiegel and me. She in no way attempted to keep my family together, she immediately sent my daughter Rachel back to Indiana. She had a police officer to place my daughter into protective custody until she arrived at my home. She then took my daughter to Wheatland and then back to Guernsey while waiting for Rachel’s father to arrive. While DFS and Police contacted the “other parents”, they made absolutely no attempt to contact custodial parents. Kim has continually stated that the police officer watched Rachel dial both mine and Ray’s phone number via Rachel’s cell phone. When I tried to provide proof that neither phone numbers were dialed, she again refused. Kim Dyer is one person that has taken my life, with respect to those that care, she is doing everything in her power to destroy my family because someone lied to her and she refuses to believe that Cindy Hiegel and Allen & Kim Manuel are the ones that lied. She refuses continually to see the truth. I am not asking that these findings be reversed because of my words I am asking that this case be thoroughly investigated from both sides instead of only one.  [ send green star]
Keep positive May 11, 2006 4:21 AM

What a story, i can tell you love your children very much, and this is a disgrace from the people involved, exactly they need only investigate properly, and see that,have you got a petition together try and raise your points with one of them also. It strikes me people that do mishandle or neglect their children get away with it, going back a few years now i left my husband but also had to leave my two boys behind, as i had nowhere to stay,but stress that i tryed to hold together in the house for as long as possible, before leaving my two boys alone. He was 13 years older then me and i thought after all these years the children would be safe with him, but i heard horrible storys about what was going on, i was about 8 hours drive away from my kids trying to settle down so i could get my kids back, my mother got wind of what was going on, and went to the social services telling them of the abuse and so forth, they told my mum there was nothing they could do. This is an outrage, and sick that on one side you know kids are being abused and nothing is done until they are left for dead, the other side is your case where there was no need for what has happened, these people in all countries need to get there acts together., and open there eyes. I will say a prayer or two for you, and hope you fight this and win. O h by the way i got custody of my boys after 11 months, of fighting. they were 3 and 5 at the time. they are now 16 and 15 and need therepy of allsorts, i still have no real idea what happened to my boys, but am trying the best i can to give them a normal loving life.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 11, 2006 7:58 AM

Tara is right, please keep positive, and if you havn't started a petition, maybe you should. This should not have happened.I wish the best for you and your family. I hope everything turns out alright. My Prayers are with you and your family, and I have faith that everything will be fine. Love and blessings to all.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 11, 2006 7:59 AM

And if there is anything I can do, please don't hesitate to tell me. And again, I hope the best for you. Love and blessings to all.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 11, 2006 9:56 AM

There is something if I may ask. How can I start a petition? What would I say. I have signed several that state my purpose. I want DFS to pay for what they have done to me and my family. Now I have finally go my Administrative Hearing but that isn't until July 11. Should I try to have an entire town standing outside in my defense. Shoot I wish I could do that.  [ send green star]
TO START A PETITION May 11, 2006 12:13 PM

Ok Lisa, i havent been a member for so long on here nor have i started my own petition, but if you look along the top where it says care2 find where it says petitions, just run your mouse over it and a drop down menu comes up it says create a petition, go there, what you would be best of writing i think is what you have already put in about what has gone on, with you and your family, and ask people to sign you do it form now till your court hearing, and then take the petition along with you.I think if there is any more help needed find someone that is already running one and just ask them for advice, im sorry i cant give no more, like i said im new to all this to, but i do feel that you will get alot of votes, i know when you have it up and running i will sign it then you just post the link in here as far as i am aware post it to all your friends and family, to sign and comment. And hopefully it will work, but what have you got to lose? just try your best, and i am with you all the way, just e-mail me should you need any help. i would also like to say thanks star for your coment, your a sweetie, and Lisa your strong and will make it honey, believe and you will succeed. All the best Tara.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
good luck May 11, 2006 12:55 PM

hi lisa, its been brought to my attention by my lovely daughter tara, about your dilemma! i am so sorry to hear about these problems you are encountering, i think it is diabolical that your not having both sides heard! the systems are totalling screwed up and its time they did something about it!!!!!! if you do decide to get a petition together i will most certainly sign it for you no problem. i wish you all the luck in the world and will be rooting for you! take care thinking of you love sue.x  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 11, 2006 1:58 PM

I sure appreciate everyone here. I thank god for places like this where I can connect and meet so many others. I believe that the issues that are arising now are due to my past. I just wish that people would let me go on with my life and let me use my past to help others and stop using it against me.  [ send green star]
stuff em Lisa May 11, 2006 3:36 PM

Hey Lisa, we are always here for you to talk to let your anger out etc... the people in your past stay where they are you are moving on, and will always be ahead of them.You are a wonderful person, and all the bad times in the past now and in the future, will only make you stronger, always remember that. Hugs Tara.%#&!*% P.S thanks for the green star.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 11, 2006 4:14 PM

I try hard to help those that don't understand and it continually gets thrown in my face. See this instance for example. I know in my heart that it is my fault because my boyfriend never went any place. He stayed at home with his two children and watched television when he wasn't at work. When I moved here from Indiana, things changed for him. See I like to go out every great once in a while and that is exactly what it is. Well since I have been here we go out about once a month sometimes once every two months. This particular time, I really wanted to do something special for his birthday. So I took him to Denver, CO. We left the night before his birthday and returned the morning after. They took our children the night of his birthday. We weren't even gone 28 hours when they stated that it wasn't right to leave a 15 year old to babysit for two days. She had a cell phone, our numbers, and numbers of several neighbors in case any thing were to happen. This story goes on forever. They sent my daughter back to Indiana (1200 miles away from me) they sent his two children to their mothers that lost custody. I can't help but to know that if I hadn't have taken him to Denver then none of this would have happened. I have ruined his life and those of the children. Now his daughter is telling serious lies, so is mine. His son was here for a visit today and Ray broke. I don't know how much more he can take. He has been both of these children's sole provider and support since each was born. I need to now get these children back to where they belong.  [ send green star]
dont stop in your cause May 12, 2006 3:16 AM

I am new to the group and am not real sure how it works. But I do know CPS is good to a point. They have literally destroyed me and my son. He is such an Angel and I hate to get off the subject, but I don't know how to stop them from terminating my rights. They admit the reason they took him is now ruled out but have made other excuses to adopt him out. His mother doesnt care like I do. Someone please tell me how to stop this. They have had him in foster care for 9 months and are determined to terminate due my past record which stopped when he was born. Where can I go to get information on how to keep this terrible tragedy from occuring. I only have till August 1st. so any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 12, 2006 3:30 AM

I personally am not sure how to stop this tragidy honestly. See several years ago I was into drugs so deep that I had a choice in my life. one was to get my paternity rights taken from me and my children be adopted out to strangers, the second was to voluntaryily sign over my paternity rights and only allow my parents to adopt. Of course I chose the later to the two. If I would have known those many years ago that I could have fought much harder I probably would have. But in all honestly I really don't know. I see my children that were adopted any time I chose, and Have actually had my oldest son living with me in Wyoming for several months. Now I am going through it again with my oldest daughter and my boyfriends children. They took my daughter and sent her back to Indiana because her father and step mother called them and told them they had a custody case pending in Indiana, which was a bold face lie, DFS refused to see my court papers proving that it wasn't custody, that it was contempt of visitation. Now I am fighting to get my daughter back and my boyfriends children were sent to their mothers which have both been proven as un-fit. As a matter of fact ten days after his daughter was sent with her mother, the daughter was removed from mom's home and sent to mom's mother. Which is totally wrong giving the fact that her house is just as bad as mom's. These people are mental and will do anything to destroy families, Ihave even read many different places that each case worker that removes a child and that child gets adopted out the case worker get paid compensation. I think we need to change laws across the world. dfs/cps are supposed to 'KEEP FAMILIES TOGETHER"  [ send green star]
My Angel May 12, 2006 3:45 AM

Thank you for replying. I go see him this morning, 3 more hours. There has to be some way to stop them from keeping him. He has never been abused in any way except to be spoiled a little. I have even bought a new place because they didnt like the neighborhood. What in the world can I do? I love him more than could ever be described by words. He is my purpose in life. I was also into drugs but stopped it all for his sake. Nearly 5 years clean when they took him. He is 5 years old, I can't bear to miss his next birthday.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
Never blame yourself May 12, 2006 3:51 AM

Lisa, never blame yourself for what is happening, nor never bring the past back, i know it has a habbit of catching up with us, but only if we let it.I think its fair to say that you gave your boyfriend a good loving relationship, he was and is happy for that, and if he didnt like it then he is his own person also and could have also said no, i love to go out when i can dont get the chance to much, but that is my story, this is yours. You see the thing is in life you cant live in the past and you cannot also live in the future, we live now for today and you both have to work together sharing all emotions and finding a plan that will work, this has happened now, life has a habbit of giving us tasks if you like, to work on and we always come through, although most of the time it isnt fair. You have been wrongly viewed in this case, and just need to get all proof together that go for you, a good lawyer, i think you will win the case, like you said you had neighbours watching for them also can you not get them to also stand for you in court. These are all things a lawyer can help you with. It was a special occasion that you went on this trip. But you know your kids, they are only looking at underage kids left alone, if you can get one of your neighbours also to say they were keeping an eye on them also i dont think you will have much of a problem.It is a very hard one that you are fighting now, and your fighting the law. I dont live in the us so i dont know the rights and rules. Just remember we are here for you and your family, and are praying for you.Just remember one thing never blame anything on your past, just think of it as another loop hole, you will come out the other side i promise you that. Stay positive and try keep a smile on your face. Hugs Tara.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 12, 2006 3:54 AM

I also have 5years in October. Please visit my web site some time w You seem to be doing every thing right. Yet so are we. Heck my boyfriend is in the military and has so many awards about integrity, honesty, leadership,management, and etc. You name it. And the case worker tells us all the time "you are doing everything right" but she is a major B&*^$. Two faced. You get three hours that is great, we get one hour and they have recently suspended his visits with his daughter. Have you got an attorney?  [ send green star]
Dan May 12, 2006 3:57 AM

Welcome Dan to the group, i know this must be very hard for you right now, first thing i see when reading what you have put is your a loving father who has given up alot for his son. Second like i said to Lisa i dont know the rules i live in Holland. But have you tryed getting a lawyer? I also think you could win this case, you have moved home you have stopped drugs you have done everything you can to prove you are a worthy father of looking after his son.You cant get much better then that, the law stinks and is getting worse, it will be a fight but never give up, never doubt yourself and above all always know you have done everything you can. I want to wish you all the luck in the world, and i hope you keep us informed of what is going on how things progress, and in the meantime i will say a few prayers for you. Hugs Tara.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 12, 2006 4:04 AM

Smiles are hard, I bite my lip when I deal with these people. I have already lost my temper and cusses them out for stealing these children and sending my daughter away. One woman, I said how would you feel if this happened to you, she said, "My kids wouldn't have gotten taken", I said, Look bitch mine shouldn't have either. and you will pay for what you have done. Let me find out where you live and the next time you and your husband go out to celebrate something I will have DFS take your kids too. And if they don't becuase you are one of them then I will file lawsuite, So what you are saying is that it is ok for some people and not others and the bitch said YES  [ send green star]
I know its hard May 12, 2006 4:12 AM

I know its hard and all your anger comes out, you really have to try keep your anger in infront of these people i dont think that is helping the kids at all, and i know its so hard, and you probably cant help screaming and shouting im the same and i get told the same. It is only natural but they dont see it like that, they see it as she has an anger problem then they will use more anno against you but saying things like your violent, you cant control your temper, i understand where your coming from Lis, i really do, just be calm you must also have places over there that are like free advice centres, your lawyers etc.. do it on a legal, calm manor, your stress level will be better, and you will have more energy to fight the case.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 12, 2006 4:16 AM

That was when it first happened. I have since then controled myself oh so much. I even told the district manager for this about what I said and how angry I was. He was supposed to be the one that looked at my review, he sent it to a review board instead. I honestly think he knows that this is wrong on the part of his office,  [ send green star]
Well that is good news May 12, 2006 4:20 AM

Well it all takes such a long time that you have to be patient, as hard as that it, i know i had the same feeling when i went through a similar case.And that is good that you have now controled it i think the kids will be back with you both in the end, just keep it up girl, you are making progress although half the time it doesnt feel like that, most of the time you feel you are a sitting duck waiting for the bomb to go off.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 12, 2006 4:27 AM

Keep praying and have lots of faith. What Tara said is good, try to get an attorney, maybe you'll find one that won't charge too much. Maybe the attorney can deal with these people. Or.. Go here to They have lots of information on all types of cases and stuff. Maybe you can find out something else there too. You, Dan and your family are in my prayers, and like I said before, I have faith that everything will be fine.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
Nice to see you again star May 12, 2006 4:32 AM

Nicely put Star, and thanks for the compliments, you are a wonderful person. And Lis i hope star info is also something for you to work on to. Good luck with all hugs Tara  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
intro May 12, 2006 4:57 AM

hi dan, welcome to care2! let me introduce myself, i am tara's mum and yes what she say's bear's a lot of truth! she is my life and i cannot imagine what you must be going through it must be the worst thing!!!!! i would like to offer you my support and will be thinking of you and wish you all the luck in the world!!!!! all the very best sue.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 12, 2006 5:00 AM

I thank god I started this group, you guys are terrific. I would like to thank everyone here for all the help and advice. It feels really nice being able to talk and getting positive feedback. Heck I wouldn't consider any feedback as positive. You guys are seriously helping me I know and Dan this is becoming a great place.  [ send green star]
response May 12, 2006 5:04 AM

hi lisa, yes you are right of course! something should be done about the system. lies and deceit are not the answers here, keeping families together is!!!!! keep your chin my lovely you are doing so well! we are all rooting for you and giving you are support and as long as that helps im happy. you take care hunny my prayers are with you all. love sue.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
thank you for your support May 12, 2006 5:08 AM

thanks mum sorry had to get ready to go see my little man  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
it is helping huh? May 12, 2006 5:10 AM

hey Lisa, I am glad you started this too. I have to go now but look forward to getting back with you guys later today. Thanks a lot.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 12, 2006 5:13 AM

Please tell us how your visit went. It excites me knowing that when we do get to see our children even if only for a very limited period. I haven't seen my daughter since this happened. I am really upset with her and my boyfriends daughter. They seriously lied on the police report. But I still love them and want them home where they belong.  [ send green star]
 May 12, 2006 5:14 AM

Just knowing that I have someplace to go to talk and get support is more help than I could have ever hoped for. God Bless all of you  [ send green star]
you guys inspire me May 12, 2006 5:17 AM

you got it. It will bee hard to leave with asking to go home with me but it is definitely the highlight of my week.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 12, 2006 8:05 AM

Ok I started a petition. I am asking that proper investigation be done for ALL cases.  [ send green star]
Praying for you both May 12, 2006 8:32 AM

A link for Lisa and Dan. just take a quick look. Dan hope your day with your son was good im sure it was and sure your feeling quite sad nowbut just look forward to the times you will wake up and see him there.hugs  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 12, 2006 8:40 AM

I got that thank you I needed that. check this site out that I am working on  [ send green star]
HOPE YOUR HAPPY May 12, 2006 10:19 AM

happy May 12, 2006 12:07 PM

hi dan, glad to hear you had a wonderful time with your little man! im sure there will be many many more times with him in the future! i wish you all the luck in the world on this major feat really i do. take care and my prayers are with you luv sue.x  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
grattitude May 12, 2006 2:55 PM

thank you Sue. He is so special I can't begin to describe how much I love the litlle monkey. This is a great place to show my true inner feelings and not have anyone think I am overdramatic. Thank you all for the support. Please talk to me some more. My day has gone so well since I found this site this morning, I now have hope instead of only despair.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
you are welcome May 13, 2006 4:42 AM

hi dan,you are very welcome, anyone thats loves their son as much as you do is a wonderful thing. i admire you for that, its not over dramatic at all. i really hope that all works out for you truly! you seem like a very loving and caring young man and i feel sure thats things will work out for the best in your favour! well have a lovely weekend and see you soon luv sue x  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 13, 2006 2:36 PM

Yes Dan i agree with my Mum Sue, you are wonderful and glad you feel you can open up to us about your feelings i just hope for you that they see that to but i dont think you will have too much hassel. lots of love from me to you Tara.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 13, 2006 2:43 PM

I apoligize for not being here. Grocery day yesterday evening, and really have been lazy today so far, getting ready now to mow the grass. I try really hard to go on with my days as if the kids are still here, sometimes it gets so hard and all I do is sit around and think about them and what can I do today to get them home. My project today is actually writing a letter to the lady that actually took our kids. I don't know if I will mail it but just writing it makes me feel better. In this letter I am telling her whst kind of homes she has sent these children into. I am not being hateful in any way but yet I am getting my point across that if she would have investigated properly she would have known that my children hadn't been home long after spending the day at a friends house with the friends MOTHER. So I am trying to get across to this hateful women that my children weren't with our parental care for two days as she tried to say. Also it turns out that my boyfriends daughter is telling everyone that he beat her and slammed her against walls and threw things at her. None of this is true in anyway, there are times I personally would have turned her over my knee but he won't and she knows it. Yes I am highly pissed at these two girls for the lies they have told, but I also feel that what they are saying and have said has been like a script written for them to read. Lisa  [ send green star]
 May 13, 2006 2:57 PM

Thats good Lisa, yes send the letter ask her to check it out properly, while she still has time, make sure you keep a copy of everything you wrote and send, as it could be usuful and acts as evidence. Cont... with your daily things is good you have to do that, i know its hard but if you let yourself go over this then there is no strength left for you to carry on. As for the two girls and all these lies have you actually spoken to the girls, how do you knw about the lies, how do you know its not the law making stories up coz they have nothing else on you, i dont think you do.I mean from what i got they were always happy with things had no problem you going away, what so ever, and responsable children, all seems strange to me, but maybe that is me. think about it look forward to hearing your response. hugs kises Tara.%#&!*%  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 14, 2006 4:41 AM

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omg May 14, 2006 8:39 AM

yes it would appear that way wouldnt it? have you tryed contacting yahoo, to try and get problem resolved, and can you trust everyone that is on your list? i wish you all the best in getting this sorted out.hugs Tara.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 15, 2006 7:08 AM

I wonder why that happened, or why anyone would do that. I really think you should go ahead and do that letter thing, and even send it. I think it's a really good idea. Maybe you'll be able to explain things better without an argument. I really hope you're doing better emotionally. I can only imagine what you're going through right now. And about the girls, again, Tara is right. Maybe they didn't say that. Maybe someone else put words in their mouth. Is there someway you can talk to them, or someone to talk to them for you.. so you can actuallly find out what's really going on. And Dan.. I'm so happy you had a good time with child. Remember guys, keep on praying and have faith. Faith is really, really important. And again, I have faith that everything will be fine. Love, healing and blessings to all.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 15, 2006 7:10 AM

Dan.. I'm so happy you had a good time with your child!! And I hope you have many more days like that to come. Love and blessings to all.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
cps sucks May 17, 2006 3:09 PM

hey anyone there? Hope so and hope to hear some good news soon. Its a race against time now. 2and 1/2 months to figure out how to stop them from terminating rights. Any ideas ? Anyone?  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
 May 17, 2006 3:37 PM

Hi Dan, I am so glad to hear your visit went so well. What all have you been offered as far as counsling/family etc. I mean from what you have said, you have went above and beyond what is needed. See my boyfriend and I are just going through this together, but I have went through the whole process before, I signed over my parental rights before because I didn't want to take the chance of forever losing three of my children and then I signed papers that only my parents could adopt. But it was either I sign on my own or they took my rights, I did have a say, but every thing I did CPS in Indiana knocked me down. Have you got an attorney? If not try to contact the Bar ASSociation where you are. They should be able to give you names of attorneys that may help you at a reduced fee. I know before this I always handled my own cases but I had an attorney to tell what I was doing wrong and right. Lisa  [ send green star]
sorry May 18, 2006 3:05 AM

hi dan, im afraid i have no idea's for you, but i would like to wish you an enormous amount of good luck with your little man! im sure all will go in your favour my prayer's are with you!!!!! take care sue. xx  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
Dan May 21, 2006 9:41 AM

Well Dan im sorry babe, the olny things i could think of would be a good lawyer, all the evidence that make you the good father you are my god anyone can see that, yeah all except the bloody dfs. write a good letter to them as Lisa did, post in here and we help and see if you should add anything, or leave anything out. The only other things to do is to try a petition, get as many signatures as you can and take it with you, also from your friends and family signing the same petition on paper and then join them together. Other then that oh never show your angry to these people even though its understandable. And get everything on paper names dates times everything till the time you have to go to court. I dont know if any of this helps you i hope so Dan because i really feel your worthy of being a dad and having your son with you. Hugs Tara.  [ send green star]  [ accepted]
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