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4 Republicans Being Honest About the Government Shutdown

4 Republicans Being Honest About the Government Shutdown

As we continue the descent into madness that is the partial government shutdown, one source of amusement, not to mention rage, is watching Republicans and their defenders try to justify it or downplay the effects. While it’s easy and cathartic to take swipes at the callousness of an extremely vocal faction of the GOP, I think it’s important recognize those that are being reasonable. At least, comparatively so.

1. Peter King gets props for being honest about the politics of all of this and about why it’s so hard for moderates to break through. From the Los Angeles Times:

“If it was a secret ballot, you’d have three-fifths, two-thirds, voting to end it all,” King said. “On this one, it was particularly hard because it looked like if you were voting no, you were voting to protect a privileged class. That’s the way it would be played in a primary, which is what Ted Cruz people want to do run primaries against Republicans.”

2. Richard Burr recognizes that this is an unwinnable battle. From the Huffington Post:

“I think some of these guys need to understand that if you shut down the federal government, you better have a specific reason to do it that’s achievable,” he said. “Defunding the Affordable Care Act is not achievable through shutting down the federal government. At some point you’re going to open the federal government back up, and Barack Obama’s going to be president, and he won’t have signed this illusion of the Affordable Care Act.”

3. Richard Hanna, seems to address the fact that repealing Obamacare would actually adversely effect women’s lives. Weird. From pressconnects:

“I continue to support repealing and replacing Obamacare with reforms that actually reduce health care costs and increase coverage for upstate New Yorkers,” Hanna said. “But as a lifelong and consistent supporter of women’s rights and health care, I do not support addressing divisive social issues such as access to birth control on a last-minute continuing resolution.”

4. Former George W. Bush speech writer Michael Gerson takes us out with with this sick burn. From The Washington Post:

We are no longer seeing a revolt against the Republican leadership, or even against the Republican “establishment”; this revolt is against anyone who accepts the constraints of political reality. Conservatives are excommunicated not for holding the wrong convictions but for rational calculations in service of those convictions.

Of course, when it comes to Republican elected officials, especially in the House, words are cheap. It’s what they do that has a real impact. The Daily Kos points out that many GOP congress people who have come out against the government shut down actually voted to do exactly that. So words are nice, but come on, Congress. We’re waiting.

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7:53PM PDT on Oct 9, 2013

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Help us avoid the Dodgers' cynical shutdown of Major League Baseball. Bring the National League pennant home to Atlanta today.

Go Braves!

Sincerely,
Paul J. Kaplan

7:51PM PDT on Oct 9, 2013

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LA's stubborn refusal to even talk to us about reversing the results of this series is un-sportsmanlike and un-American. But there is an answer. If the Dodgers won't listen to the cries of average Americans like you and me, then Congress should outlaw Major League Baseball until the Dodgers cave.

I understand this solution may sound unconventional. But we can no longer afford to play baseball as usual. This issue is too important. Americans - by which I mean Braves fans like me - overwhelmingly oppose a Dodgers win. Allowing them to impose their left-coast values on our post-season play is ruining America . And my fantasy team.

I know that some in the greater fan community and in the sportscasting elite may say that shutting down all of baseball is too drastic a step. That if this kind of hostage-taking is allowed to succeed, baseball as we know it will cease to function - that next time it will be the Dodgers demanding the pennant. That before long we'll see the Mets shutting down the league unless they get a Super Bowl ring or the Diamondbacks halting play unless they win the Stanley Cup. But you and I know that's just a bunch of California double-speak.

Just because the Dodgers had more hits, scored more runs, and won more games doesn't make them right. You can help them see that. And if that means the country will be deprived of its national pastime - well, the Dodgers will have only themselves to blame.

Help us avoid the Dodgers' cyn

7:47PM PDT on Oct 9, 2013

Has everyone seen the letter that Paul J. Kaplan wrote to his Congressman, Jack Kingston? You see Paul was upset because his baseball team, the Atlanta braves, had just lost to the Los Angeles Dodgers. Paul knew that his republican Congressman had lost his battle against the Affordable Care Act, but was fighting on, using the shutdown and the debt limit default as extortion chips.

Braves fan Paul Kaplan figured his republican congressman might be able to do something about the Braves' loss to the Dodgers:

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/10/08/applying-government-shutdown-logic-to-the-baseball-playoffs/

Maybe I'll type the whole thing to aid internet challenged trolls:

Dear Congressman Kingman:

Thank you for your courageous stand against Obamacare and in support of the government shutdown. Your bold act of statesmanship has given me an idea that I hope you'll agree to help with.

Like you, I'm sure, I am profoundly disappointed that the Atlanta Braves lost the NLDS last night. And to the Dodgers - a bunch of California liberals!

This outrage cannot be allowed to stand. But the system has failed us. W tried to resolve this issue through traditional means: In last night's game alone, we must have sent batters to the plate at least 40 times. But just because we couldn't score enough runs, the dodgers refuse to relinquish the title - and worse, they won't even discuss it.

LA's stubborn refusal to even talk to us about reversing the results of this se

7:09PM PDT on Oct 9, 2013

Paul B. "All Dems have to do is agree to postpone the individual mandate for a year,"

No we don't, Paul B. We negotiated with you for THREE AND A HALF YEARS! Negotiations are over. This is no longer the Affordable Care Act "bill". It's the LAW, and republican twits can just learn to get used to it. You see, Paul B, we here in the United States of America are a Nation of LAWS!

If you can't live under the LAWS of my country, Paul B, move.

4:45PM PDT on Oct 9, 2013

WOW Paul has swallowed hook line and sinker the Rush and Fox bullshit sandwich word for frikking word.

3:14PM PDT on Oct 9, 2013

Dan B. wrote:
"Forcing people to buy something they do not want, often backfires."
But not always. Look at the automobile insurance you are forced to buy if you want to drive on the public roads. And, though it is not a government demand, you cannot buy a home without being forced to buy insurance. The problem with people not wanting to buy health insurance is that it drives up the cost for the rest of us. Our taxes pay for those who end up in the emergency hospitals without insurance to pay for it. Do you consider that paying taxes is basically BUYING something? For example, when you pay property taxes, do you think of it as BUYING better community schools, fire departments, etc.?
So what is the difference between buying something and paying for something? And we all PAY for things we might not want, but by doing so, we create a better world.
I simply do not believe that forcing people to buy/pay for health insurance they don't want will backfire in this particular case. It will be to the benefit of all. Just my opinion.

1:30PM PDT on Oct 9, 2013

time to stop the government shutdown, lots of people are home not working...lots of kids have no headstart and lots of Women, Infant and Children have no WIC.

12:03PM PDT on Oct 9, 2013

Yeah, Paul B. is right, all the Democrats have to do is to give in to the hostage demands that the terrorists (i.e. tea party and Boehner) have insisted on and then we can move forward. That is until the NEXT time they take the nation hostage and demand more concessions in violation of the democratic process.

You see, Paul B. that is why we do not negotiate with terrorists, it simply emboldens them and they take more hostages.

Perhaps your terrorist buddies should try changing the law the way the U.S. Constitution mandates that laws be changed, rather than holding the nation hostage and demanding concessions?

11:52AM PDT on Oct 9, 2013

All Dems have to do is agree to postpone the individual mandate for a year, and agree to play by the same ACA rules and regulations as the rest of their "bosses" do as citizens of this country and all this ends... just like that, which is exactly what the majority of Americans agree with as being the "right" thing to do!

Dems have exempted their buddies in business and unions, and anyone with clout to persuade the WH for waivers, so we know where their priorities lie... with business, with cronies, but not individuals.

But the obstructionist Dems want it all... they will ONLY agree to talk if Reps bend over and capitulate to the unwavering demands of the Dems... not exactly what their constituents elected them to do. Everything Dems do is political, to increase their power, even if it means WE suffer, like closing open air memorials, banning citizens from WWII memorial while granting illegal immigrants an exemption for full access to similar space that citizens can't tread. What's wrong with that picture???

The House has EVERY RIGHT to try and negotiate a resolution, but Dems won't... period. THAT IS THEW PROBLEM with this situation.

2:50PM PDT on Oct 7, 2013

RECALL ALL REPUBLICANS! There isn't a single Republican worth a penny in politics.

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