Bachmann Clinic Again Caught Using Gay Cure Therapy


The Bachmann Christian counseling clinics are once again the center of controversy after a lesbian filmmaker went undercover and was allegedly given ex-gay therapy.

Last year Truth Wins Out went undercover and exposed ex-gay therapy being offered at Bachmann & Associates, the Minnesota Christian counseling clinic co-owned by Marcus & Michele Bachmann.

Now, filmmaker Kristina Lapinski, wanting footage for her forthcoming movie Gay U.S.A. the Movie, has released a verbal account of a session she had with a counselor at the clinic by the name of Sheila J. Marker after being unable to book a session with Marcus Bachmann. The account appears on a blog associated with the film. Below is an extract, but I encourage you to read the full thing:

“I went into the session using a different last name. I didn’t want to give my real last name just in case they ‘googled’ me and found out I was a gay rights activist.  I described my future husband as my best friend, my buddy. I told her about my desire to start a family and please society and my religious community.

I told her I had been with a woman, and found that to be true love. …

She asked me if I had slept with my fiancé and I told her that I had not yet and that I was not attracted him. She said “how can you know how it will be until you try?”

She asked if I believed in God, and I answered, “yes.”  She pulled out a bible, handed it to me and asked me to read a passage out loud. It was about love, and then she asked me to analyze it with her. We talked about love and commitment, and even though I have never been attracted to my fiancé, the commitment, she noted, was a form of love.


She told me to follow God’s road. “The bible says one man one woman… two great halves come together….” and then spoke to some extent about a woman’s duty to keep the man company… I found that oddly sexist.


She asked me if I could “pray for a miracle to happen and wake up in the morning and have it be true, what would I wish for?”

I said “money, success, a happy loving environment with friends and family.”

She was clearly implying that my miracle would be the getting rid of my “desire” which she referred to as ‘same sex attraction’- (notably what many on her side of the issue call SSA, as if it is a disorder.)

I told her I’d want my miracle to just be happiness and did not submit to the suggestion of my miracle being a cure for my “desire.” I refused to give in to that notion.

That led to her question — She asked “What is the worst that can happen if you do get married?”

I answered by saying, “well I would get a divorce, and it would be my fault because I was never really attracted to men to begin with.”


Given this was not a real situation it made me wonder what if I had in fact been a real patient and all of this was actually my situation, surely the therapist ought to have told me not to get married if I had these kinds of doubts and thought I was gay?

She talked a lot about submitting to God, giving my life path over to him and letting him direct the way. She told me if I wanted to be happy I could “give my problems to the Lord and he could take them away.”

We ended the session with a prayer and Sheila J. Marker asked the lord to take away my “desire” and allow me to pursue a relationship with my fiancé.

[Read the full exposé here.]

There’s so much to say about this.

First, the Christian counselor in the account above clearly believes in the lesser of two evils as she advocates for pre-marital sex if it is going to help banish “same-sex attraction.”

Second, the job of a counselor is not to impose upon a patient the counselor’s own personal bias but instead to lead the patient to a healthy outcome based on sound medical practice and treatment. Advocating the patient enter into a loveless marriage as an alternative to “same-sex attraction” is irresponsible at best and severely emotionally damaging at worst.

Third, there’s no proof that prayer cures people, and it certainly isn’t capable of curing something that doesn’t need to be cured.

Fourth, offering a counselling service in which the therapist relies on biblical accounts for standards of wellness and treatment is a violation of medical codes of conduct. This so-called treatment also transgresses a 2009 standard set by the APA that affirmation rather than reorientation is the appropriate treatment for anxiety relating to sexual orientation, not to mention that homosexuality has now long-since been depathologized.

Fifth, ex-gay therapy is dangerous: it has ruined lives and it has cost lives.

Lastly, this isn’t about freedom of religion, the old “if someone wants to seek religious counseling to change they should be able to do so” lie. Here we’re talking about medical treatment that should be backed up by objective science, not religious opinion.


Related Reading:

Author of Leading Ex-Gay Study Admits Findings Were Flawed

District Rethinks Leaflet Policy After Ex-Gay Promo Given to Kids

Kid Tells Bachmann: My Mommy is Gay, Doesn’t Need Fixing (VIDEO)

Did Bachmann Try to Pass a Law Protecting Ex-Gay Therapy?

Image used under the Creative Commons Attribution License with thanks to Gage Skidmore.


Emily Drew
Emily Drew4 years ago

This is just so wrong. That is like praying to beome a different race, it is not going to happen. Gay is not something that needs to be fixed. It is a part of who you are. And there is nothing wrong with it.

James Wilcox
James Wilcox4 years ago

@ Linda M. "Perhaps I'm [sexist] but he looks closeted himself to me. He's not exactly what I would consider a stud muffin."

So you rate men sexually by their potential for violence? Were you a cheerleader?

James Wilcox
James Wilcox4 years ago

@ Linda M. "Perhaps I'm [sexist] but he looks closeted himself to me. He's not exactly what I would consider a stud muffin."

So you rate men sexually by their potential for violence? Were you a cheerleader?

Pepe Pops
Calliope Muse4 years ago

lol! my thoughts..

Lisa Hess
Lisa Hess4 years ago

That pic of them two in my opinion shows he is deff in the closet. She just doesnt want to admit it and let him go do his thing. Sad life for him

Linda McKellar
Past Member 4 years ago

I seriously think Mr. Bachmann should look in the mirror. Perhaps I'm incorrect but he looks closeted himself to me. He's not exactly what I would consider a stud muffin. I think many homophobes are insecure about their own sexuality.
In my experience, gays that I know are very creative people who tend to be peaceful, good citizens and contribute to society. The same cannot be said for bashers.
His methods don't sound terribly scientific to me. Pray to be straight. That's like telling a dog to pray to become a cat.

Donegal Higgins
Past Member 4 years ago


Aravis O.
.4 years ago


What happens is that people find excuses do what they want to do.

So there are 3 other options. One is to simply decide that God do not exist. No God means no conscience. Second is to find a religion that suit what you want to do. So if you like eating beef, & christianity say that it is wrong to eat beef, then you find a religion that says that it is ok to eat beef. And third is to interpret the Bible to fit what you want to do. Instead of changing your lifestyle to what God wants, instead you twist around its words & find all kind of reasons to make the Bible say what you want them to say.


So what did you want to accomplish?

Aravis O.
.4 years ago


Well I do not agree with you in anything you say...but I respect your views. And this is what my entire point is about. Respect for opposing views & not saying that I MUST agree with you or else there will be hell to pay.

Firstly, I am strong & commited to my beliefs. But I never said that I will rat out my friends. What I will not do is encourage or support him in his infidelities, but I am not a snitch.

2ndly. As I said before, I do not hate. If I was to see a group of people beating or bullying a gay person you can be sure that I would be the first person to go to his assistance. And if he is harmed I would testify for him in the courtroom. You see, I separate person from lifestyle or action. I may not agree with what you do, but that do not mean that I hate you. But on the other hand, respect my views also & do not try to denigrate me because I do not agree with your actions. This as I said is not hapenning with lgbt.

Finally, I do not believe that the Bible is subject to interpretation. As I said before, God created the Bible for EVERY man WHO WANTS TO UNDERSTAND, to understand. It was not made for only the educated. It was made for everyone & everything it says is very clear. Tho it is a life lesson, it also have in many rules that God expects us to obey. This is also very clearly stated in the Bible. And it is obvious for this entire universe & everything in it was created using laws & rules. What happens is that people find

Jen Matheson
Past Member 4 years ago

@Shaan: Don't let yourself get worked up by Arvis. I kept a point going which I perhaps shouldn't've and whle I finally got an honest answer out of them, I really didn't accomplish anything.