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Buck: We Need to Be “As Homogeneous as Possible in the Military”

Buck: We Need to Be “As Homogeneous as Possible in the Military”

We have learned now how our senate feels when it comes to appealing the ban on openly gay members of the military.  But we are still learning how our potential new senators stand when it comes to “don’t ask don’t tell.”

However, Colorado GOP senate nominee Ken Buck has no issues telling you gays should stay in the closet if they want to be in the military.  According to him, the military needs to be “homogeneous.”

Via Talking Points Memo:

Before a rowdy crowd on Friday, Colorado Sen. Michael Bennet (D) and Republican Senate nominee Ken Buck squared off in a debate that touched on the economy, health care, abortion, ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell,’ and other issues.

One of the moments of starkest contrast occurred after the candidates were asked about gays in the military. Bennet said he thought ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ should be repealed, and said the policy was based on “outdated views of our society.”

Buck argued for maintaining the status quo. “I think it is a policy that makes a lot of sense,” he said.

It’s not whether an individual who is gay can serve in the military, the question is whether that individual can be openly gay in the military. It’s one thing to deny someone access to the military and to a career in the military, it’s another thing to — for morale purposes and other purposes — make sure that we are as homogeneous as possible in the military in moving towards the common goal of the security and military actions, as opposed to the distractions that are caused by allowing lifestyle choices to become part of the discussion.

As The Colorado Independent reports, Colorado senator Mark Udall has been a key force behind trying to repeal DADT, despite the misgivings of Republicans like Ken Buck.

Some Republicans have suggested the repeal of DADT smacks of social engineering and for that reason has no place in vital national security legislation. Others simply object to the politics Democrats are playing by attaching these controversial provisions to the normally uncontroversial defense bill.

Gay soldiers serve openly in many other countries. The military is currently conducting a study on how best to repeal DADT but there is no time line attached to that effort.

“More than 14,000 service members have been discharged in the last decade,” Udall said about Don’t Ask Don’t Tell this spring. “These are jet pilots, translators of Arabic, Farsi, Pashtun– languages so important in the War on Terror. All the skill sets needed in the military are met by gay Americans.”

Government accountants have estimated that the policy has cost the country more than $200 million since its implementation in legal fees, investigations and discharges.

“We train these men and women and prepare them for duty,” Udall said. “It’s a major investment in time and energy and money. Then we spend all this time and energy and money discharging them.”

Still, Buck believes that a “homogeneous” military is best for security and moral?  Does that mean that women should be removed, or perhaps soldiers of different ethnicity?  Exactly how far would Buck be willing to go in an effort to make the people serving in the military the same?

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2:38PM PDT on Nov 2, 2010

What they want is for the military to be all white, male, and heterosexual, which it isn't now and it seems to be working. Adding racist and sexist to the mix promises nothing better.

11:32PM PDT on Sep 26, 2010

We can't even treat our disabled veterans properly. And they came home from defending our country being disabled. We used to not treat minority military well. Women still get discriminated or harassed. Now we want to hate the gay military.

If we can't even protect our own, (military can't protect fellow military) how is the military supposed to protect civilians? So when our constitution is being defended, are you only protecting it for some people? Only part of it?

11:13AM PDT on Sep 25, 2010

And James Stewart, I responded to the exact same thing you say on another thread about this. I should have copied it, but here goes:
I'm sorry you find the struggle of gay people to be treated fairly and equally to be so tiresome. I'm sorry that us being kicked out of our professions and denied so many of the things you take for granted bothers you so. The struggle for rights of people other than yourself can be so tedious.

Well, as soon as gay people begin to be treated fairly at the insitutional level--- as I know people like George and Eric will never treat 'other' people fairly on an individual basis-- then you might no longer have to be bothered by us whiny people who for some strange reason want to live like you do. Get over yourself and look up the words empathy and compassion. Find out what they mean and contemplate whether you could ever feel anything like that. It's hard for a self centered, uncaring man, but it can be done! Yes, Jimmy boy, you too can imagine yourself in another's shoes if you really try hard! You too can begin to feel a sense of humanity and connection to your fellow man! But it's not easy! You have to try to care about someone other than yourself, and that's hard!

10:51AM PDT on Sep 25, 2010

Dennis Cooney, what a ridiculous thing to say! You bemoan the system that disappeared soldiers and prevented anyone from talking about it, but you call witchhunts that you can all actively participate in a good things that works. What a great sense of justice and fairness. You are pathetic. I've read and listened to the stories of gay soldiers telling how their emails were hacked and used against them to kick them out, how fellow soldiers who disliked them for some reason sent letters or called anonymously to the command and "implied" they were gay so the command actively investigated them and kicked them out, even though they never even hinted that they were gay, which was what was SUPPOSED to be the rule of the law.

And Eric Threewolves, attacking someone for their spelling is the province of the weakminded who have no reasonable argument, not to mention you mispelled bullying. You have nothing to say about the issue so you obfuscate with a non sequitur about the bible and Jesus, who if you believe what the bible says actually DID come to change everything, including laws, you petty bootheel sniping coward.

And Mary I, what a stupid story-- that you may believe-- but gimme a break! It is beyond fantasy to imagine a female recruit standing and staring at other soldiers in showers with lust and not getting instantly discharged. Your story is simply not at all believable.

And Brian M, thanks for pointing up the obvious to these fearmongers. I get tired of doing it.

4:47PM PDT on Sep 24, 2010

By homogeneous, I take it to be as "white" as milk.

I like that. Let the men and women of color (and any gay) come back to the US and work in the Armed Forces on friendly ground.

Leave the white men and women to bear the brunt of combat.

Yeah, I like that

10:15AM PDT on Sep 24, 2010

What any of us do in our bedrooms is strictly Personal and Private, and should Never be discussed in public. It's nobody else's business. Just shut up about it and keep it private. Shut up. It's not a political issue. It's a private issue, and I really don't want to hear about it.

8:23PM PDT on Sep 23, 2010

For starters Broyny I DO HAVE A LIFE and a GOOD ONE at that. Second I have NO Phobias toward ANY HOMOS. The DISTRACTION WILL COME by TRYING to bring NORMAL and lgbt soldiers together. I also think you an illiterate moron. Somehow is not spelled "sumhow",and tht doesn't spell anything neither does "disdtracted"you REALLY should think about returning to first grade and paying attention this time. Also you should have your mommy READ the Bible to you. And by the way Christ DID NOT come to change LAW he came to fulfill prophesy. And to save those who CHANGE THEIR WICKED WAYS. Check it out you pathetic scared"NORMOPHOBE". America has lost face in most the world's eyes. There are no MORAL VALUES here anymore! What's moral about two men or women trying to have sex? They can't procreate NOT NORMAL.

7:48PM PDT on Sep 23, 2010

For starters Broyny I DO HAVE A LIFE and a GOOD ONE at that. Second I have NO Phobias toward ANY HOMOS. The DISTRACTION WILL COME by TRYING to bring NORMAL and lgbt soldiers together. I also think you an illiterate moron. Somehow is not spelled "sumhow",and tht doesn't spell anything neither does "disdtracted"you REALLY should think about returning to first grade and paying attention this time. Also you should have your mommy READ the Bible to you. And by the way Christ DID NOT come to change LAW he came to fulfill prophesy. And to save those who CHANGE THEIR WICKED WAYS. Check it out you "NORMOPHOBE". America has lost face in the world's eyes. There are no MORAL VALUES here anymore! What's normal about two men or women trying to have sex? They can't procreate? NOT NORMAL.

11:24AM PDT on Sep 23, 2010

Buck must also want to eliminate women in the military. Women certainly are not homogeneous with men - thank God.

10:25AM PDT on Sep 23, 2010

"You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you just have to be able to shoot straight."

--Barry Goldwater

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