Click! Becoming a Feminist: When Did it Happen to You? #4
FROM CINDY: Our interview with J. Courtney Sullivan about her book CLICK! evoked revealing, heartfelt and very moving comments, so we’re going to post them in groups of ten. Add yours to the post and it will be featured here too. (Full disclosure: I know and admire Courtney and we share an alma mater - many years apart though!
So curious that feminism goes through periods of being unpopular where it’s disavowed even by those who are really holding feminist beliefs and now it’s appropriated by people who are essentially antifeminist and it gets twisted around.
In any case I’m so glad that the younger generation is embracing it. Yesss!! There is a Goddess! Miriam Greenwald
So glad to hear ladies talking about feminism! As a college graduate of the early 70′s, I saw and experienced first hand how this word was used to split women politically or domestically. We were asked by men, “Are you a feminist or an anti-feminist?” I would never ask a gentleman if he was masculine or anti-masculine. Women are all feminists in their own way…. some more than others and that’s very very okay!!! Patt T
You know to me all the rhetoric just complicates the issue. We tag things then assign meaning to the tags then throw them like darts at what we want to categorize. It makes life simpler but a lot of truth falls between the gaps and in some cases people or movements get stereotyped for behavior or beliefs that do not fit.
One of the first things that red flags to me is name calling or tagging in any discussion.
I guess to some feminism simply means pro female and that can mean a lot of things. To me it means pro female human rights and pro female freedom and that pretty much covers all I need. If a woman gets married and then takes orders or abuse, mental or physical and/or has to have permission to to make choices in life that just isn’t feminism to me. Claire M.
It is wonderful to hear that feminism is not the new ‘f’ word and that women can be proud in calling themselves feminist (even if it is not clear what that means to them politically). There are so many feminist frameworks ranging from cultural feminists, eco-feminists, socialist feminists, liberal feminists, Marxist feminists and ‘conservative feminists’ that it is not fair to paint them with the same brush. That does not mean we should allow patriarchy or a misogynist society to divide and conquer – it just means that we can agree to disagree and formulate a tapestry that incorporates all the elements. Susan S.
Great article! I love having strong women to look up to and inspire me. I was raised to always be more “girly” and “feminine”, which were meant in the stereotypical ways (i.e. be graceful, etc.) There’s nothing wrong if you are that way, but that isn’t me, and I am so glad there are other women who don’t fit the stereotypical mould, nor want to. It is really annoying with all the inequality, and worse, that so many people fail (or don’t care) to realise that you cannot have true progress when you alienate half the population. I am very fortunate to have an awesome boyfriend who actually respects me for who I am and does not treat me differently simply because I am female. I hope more people get with the program and work to end this inequality. Christine T
I support for 100 % the women’s issue !!! Congratulated with your act !!! Kind greetings and take care !!! Alain De Coessemaeker says
For humanity to flourish, each generation has had to define itself. Mary Latela
Jill Zimon…yes….I agree with pretty much everything you said.
I will still state though, that I never encourage ‘groups’ for a lot of reasons.. a couple of which you and I have both mentioned.
I also have a little issue with groups because they can make people lazy about doing and being their best.
I’m not against unions…in fact, I am very much in favor of them for a variety of historical and current reasons….but sometimes l have to wonder if some of the less competent and less ambitious people just let themselves slide a little too much, knowing their union will step up and fight on their behalf.
I think we learn more from our fights and they mean more to us if we’re the one fighting our own battles and winning them ourselves.
I guess I’ve just never been a ‘follower’…and I have a bee in my bonnet about people who are lemmings and live by following the leader, no matter where that might lead.
It’s easier to be a lemming if you’re part of a group. Marilyn D.
@Marilyn D Re: Amelia E.
I agree completely – it starts with each one of us. I admire the power a group can have but as you and I have both noted, there can be and for me there have been issues I’ve had with “joining” any group. I’ve not completely reconciled that. (If you read the NYT Sunday Mag article yesterday re: Obama and the Democratic party, it was kind of about this too – maybe this rejection of “all things group” is a generational thing – not sure.)
Anyway – thanks for engaging. I think our actions all help move things in the right direction, ultimately. Jill Zimon
Just a quick follow up on something you wrote: “I think that women’s lib served its purpose to some degree. But it also gave women who wanted to excel a cartoon-like reputation for being emasculating bulldogs”
Who created that cartoon image – who wielded it and how was it wielded – for what purpose? We need to think about these questions and the answers, IMO.
Also – I think that many of us know that we have had different (i.e., better) experiences than others – but that doesn’t mean the work doesn’t need to be done – not by a long shot. In fact, those of us privileged enough, lucky enough or otherwise untouched by the sexism certainly can work to assist in its eradication. The fact that it didn’t touch you (or others) doesn’t mean it didn’t or doesn’t exist. Jill Zimon
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