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Conservatives Fume as Romney Campaign Touts Romneycare

Conservatives Fume as Romney Campaign Touts Romneycare

Presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney has been careful not to make too much of the health care reform he signed into law as governor of Massachusetts. The similarity of “Romneycare” to the “Obamacare” reforms signed by President Barack Obama has made his base extremely leery. While Romney made it through the primary by arguing that Massachusetts had the right to enact health care reform, but the federal government can’t, that argument was destroyed by the Supreme Court’s ruling in NFIB v. Sebelius, which held that the law was, in fact, constitutional.

Since the court upheld the Affordable Care Act, Romney has said he would work to reverse the law on “day one” of his presidency. But faced with a negative ad that ties the death of an uninsured woman to Bain Capital, Romney’s campaign has flip-flopped yet again, by claiming that the woman would have lived — if only she had Romneycare.

“To that point, if people had been in Massachusetts, under Gov. Romney’s health care plan, they would have had health care,” Romney spokesperson Andrea Saul said on Fox News. “There are a lot of people losing their jobs and losing their health care in President Obama’s economy.”

Romney, meanwhile, has backed away from saying he would eliminate all health care reforms, saying at a Wednesday rally, “We’ve got to do some reforms in health care, and I have some experience doing that as you know, and I know how to make a better setting than the one we have in health care.”

The abrupt change has left conservatives apoplectic. Conservative blogger and CNN contributor Erick Erickson tweeted, “This might just be the moment Mitt Romney lost the election. Wow.” He expanded his argument in a later blog post, saying, “[I]f we are not vocally on the record now that it is madness for the Romney camp to praise a failed healthcare regime in Massachusetts, between the press and Romney’s present enablers, we’ll surrender that right after the election.”

Conservative talk show host Rush Limbaugh agreed.

“Andrea Saul’s appearance on Fox was a potential gold mine for Obama supporters,” Limbaugh said. “They can say, ‘Romneycare was the basis for our health care.’”

Indeed, the plan signed by Obama is very similar to Romneycare in form and function, and had its origin in the conservative Heritage Foundation. Given that conservatives like Rep. Paul Broun, R-Ga., have called Obamacare “the greatest attack on our freedom since 1776,” Romney’s support of similar laws makes them far from sanguine about their chances of repealing the Affordable Care Act, even if Romney wins in the fall.

The pivot, calculated or not, threatens to crack Romney’s base, which has thus far been held together by a desire to defeat Obama in the fall. If Romney’s base starts to fall away, Romney’s chances of winning will evaporate.

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2:35PM PDT on Aug 19, 2012

Both Romney and Ryan lie and flip flop so much you know they stand for nothing. If he gets in you know he will not serve America's people...unless you are part of the 2%.

7:47PM PDT on Aug 15, 2012

http://www.thetimesnot.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=302&Itemid=99

Romney Denies Offshoring Campaign Function

5:33PM PDT on Aug 11, 2012

Now the Romney Disaster Campaign has alienated even MORE people with the choice of Ryan as Vice-President.
1] Ryan is a BOW-HUNTER. As if Animal lovers aren't alienated enough by Seamus the Dog riding sick and terrified on top of the Romney family car;
2] Ryan is a RABID AYN RAND FOLLOWER.
And, AYN RAND WAS A RABID ATHEIST WHO HATED CHRISTIANS AND CHRISTIANITY.
And explicitly spells it out in her writings!
[Well, I guess the Christians haven't yet glommed onto the fact that Mittens is high up in the Hierarchy of the Mormon Church -- we have NEVER had a President who was similarly high up in the Hierarchy of ANY Church!!! And, that MEANS, that Mittens has to be SUPER-ORTHODOX and believe LITERALLY EVERY WORD....
And, Mormons believe that Joseph and Mary gave birth to JESUS AND LUCIFER, TWO BROTHERS...]
Who is gonna be LEFT......???

8:02AM PDT on Aug 11, 2012

What's always missing from these discussions is the fed has no authority to mandate a purchase while Massachusetts does and did. Romney's team implied that the Mass law is good, the same as what Obama's team has claimed all along. But it's kinda' like Perry who signed Texas' in-state tuition law (for illegals) -- but only because it was supported almost unanimously by the Texas House and Senate. Similarly, Romney had little choice in Mass and simply enacted what would have become law, veto or not. Both governors lapsed into moderation and just went along. Both bad mistakes but Romney and his team refuse to simply state the facts. Perry was literally booed out of the primary because he said we have no heart when deep down, he's opposed to illegal immigration. I hope Romney isn't booed out of this race because he won't tell us how he really feels, particularly about socialized health care. He needs to come clean, briefly, only once and ignore Obama's future attempts to distract the electorate with this kind of crap.

1:54AM PDT on Aug 11, 2012

[...continued] What we all need to do, regardless, is to educate ourselves. The better educated we are, the better able we are to conduct our lives, both on the small scale of individuals and on the large scale of communities. From everything I've been able to see, though, the GOP really doesn't want anyone to increase their education. Primarily because it would realistically take them out of power. And their very human nature simply does not want to give that up, regardless of whether it is better for everyone, including themselves, for them to do so.

1:54AM PDT on Aug 11, 2012

[...continued] What we all need to do, regardless, is to educate ourselves. The better educated we are, the better able we are to conduct our lives, both on the small scale of individuals and on the large scale of communities. From everything I've been able to see, though, the GOP really doesn't want anyone to increase their education. Primarily because it would realistically take them out of power. And their very human nature simply does not want to give that up, regardless of whether it is better for everyone, including themselves, for them to do so.

1:53AM PDT on Aug 11, 2012

[...continued] The man may have started out poor, certainly. I'm not contradicting that at all. The fact remains that by the time they were nominated for the Presidency, they were wealthy men. If you really want to see REAL communism in action, you need look no further than a kibutz in Israel. Or, if you prefer something on the American continents, look to the Native Americans. While there will be a person who is designated to direct activities, the fact remains that everyone in the community works together for the common good, and everyone shares equally in the bounty. As Marx described the progression, first is capitalism. Eventually, though, the workers become tired of always being on the bottom, and they revolt. The next step is socialism, where the overall power is granted to a few in order to better the lot for everyone. Unfortunately, even Marx recognized human nature; and the catch that in order to transition to communism from socialism, those in power must in fact give up their power and join everyone else. It is human nature that once an individual is given power and/or authority, they really don't want to give it up. ("Power corrupts. Absolute power is kinda fun, though.") I'm not saying that what Marx proposed is the way we should conduct ourselves. I will grant that he certainly made sense (at least as it was translated, considering that I cannot read Russian at all) in what he was saying. What we all need to do, regardless, is to educate ourselves

1:52AM PDT on Aug 11, 2012

[...continued] The man may have started out poor, certainly. I'm not contradicting that at all. The fact remains that by the time they were nominated for the Presidency, they were wealthy men. If you really want to see REAL communism in action, you need look no further than a kibutz in Israel. Or, if you prefer something on the American continents, look to the Native Americans. While there will be a person who is designated to direct activities, the fact remains that everyone in the community works together for the common good, and everyone shares equally in the bounty. As Marx described the progression, first is capitalism. Eventually, though, the workers become tired of always being on the bottom, and they revolt. The next step is socialism, where the overall power is granted to a few in order to better the lot for everyone. Unfortunately, even Marx recognized human nature; and the catch that in order to transition to communism from socialism, those in power must in fact give up their power and join everyone else. It is human nature that once an individual is given power and/or authority, they really don't want to give it up. ("Power corrupts. Absolute power is kinda fun, though.") I'm not saying that what Marx proposed is the way we should conduct ourselves. I will grant that he certainly made sense (at least as it was translated, considering that I cannot read Russian at all) in what he was saying. What we all need to do, regardless, is to educate ourselves

1:51AM PDT on Aug 11, 2012

As Americans understand the concepts, socialism and communism are misnomers. The problem comes from the fact that political parties have used these terms to describe themselves, and most especially what they aspire to achieve. But, just because a political party, or even a country identifies itself with a certain term, a term used to describe their aspirations, that does NOT mean said country has attained it. China has called itself a Socialist country. Socialism is the ideal they wish to attain. It is also the translation for the name of the ruling political party. However, if one looks into socialism (and the best place to do so is to study the writings of Marx), you'll quickly find that China is in fact not really socialist. It's more of a bastardized version of socialism. Just as American has always tried to describe itself as a democracy (as Abraham Lincoln put it in the Gettysburg address: "A government for the people, by the people."). Democracy is the goal. The reality is that America is, and really always has been, a plutocracy: A government for the rich, by the rich. NONE of America's "Founding Fathers" were poor. Not when compared to the rest of the people in what would become America. When you get down to it, there has never been a poor man elected President of the United States. The man may have started out poor, certainly. I'm not contradicting that at all. The fact remains that by the time they were nominated for the Presidency, they were wealth

11:26PM PDT on Aug 10, 2012

I have heard an audio recording of Romney in January 2012 telling a group of voters in Florida "I want to eliminate waste in the military and use that savings to pay for Obamacare." Mitt is a major league big government communist.

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