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Former Vegans Explain Why They Eat Meat: Are You Convinced?

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Niman writes:

Every living thing, from mammals, birds, and fish to plants, fungi, and bacteria, eats other living things. Humans are part of the food web; but for the artifices of cremation and tightly sealed caskets, all of us would eventually be recycled into other life forms. It is natural for people, like other omnivores, to participate in this web by eating animals. And it is ethically defensible — provided we refrain from causing gratuitous suffering.

Noting that “only about three percent of Americans are vegetarian and 0.5 percent are vegan” and that about three-quarters of those who try vegetarianism or veganism return to eating meat, Niman suggests that, rather than exhorting people only to eat plants, ”doesn’t it make more sense to encourage them to eat an omnivorous diet that is healthy, ethical, and ecologically sound?”‘

Eating Isn’t Always Based on Rational Arguments

I can see how these arguments make sense. We are all part of a food web, an ecosystem, fellow denizens on this planet.

But we don’t make our choices about food and eating entirely based on reason; eating is a topic that is highly emotional. Our reasons for choosing what foods we prefer to eat are very much (whether we know it or not) based on ineffables like habit, preference for taste and texture, memories and associations. We may conclude that our decision not to eat meat is based on ethical, philosophical principles and, just as much, on a squeamish feeling in our stomach in knowing that the lamb chop on our plate was once an actual lamb’s leg. Eating meat may simply neither taste nor feel right. If more than three percent of the population was vegetarian and demand for chicken and pork and such dramatically decreased, could industrial-scale animal raising be made obsolete? Is it possible that so much of the population is eating meat because it is readily available?

What do you think of Niman’s, Cerulli’s and Applestone’s arguments?

For myself, I’m looking forward to a meal that’s heavy on the vegetables and grains.

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9:16PM PDT on Jul 1, 2015

Thank you for sharing!

8:40PM PDT on May 21, 2015

No. I am not convinced and feel sorry for them.

2:09PM PDT on Apr 28, 2015

But, Kevin B, I am omnivore and love grains. Dr. Murky Mercola tells us in a few Care2 articles that grains are 'bad' for most of us, but unless one is gluten intolerant, often for most of us, no problem with grains. Then...there is always toasted harvest homemade bread, which is wonderful, love to make bread, but without highly processed white flour. There is also red quinoa, that is pretty good, but I avoid the white quinoa.

If one runs out of fridge space, one can always prepare these since vegans, omnivores and vegetarians all eat these. Thinking that I would prefer kale chips to the carrot chips, however, but can always give the carrot version a try. Wonder what curried kale tastes like?

1:49PM PDT on Apr 28, 2015

What does a vegan zombie eat?


1:25PM PDT on Apr 28, 2015

Well, Barbara D, I think that this thread is a record-setter with some 9964 or so comments so far. Do you know if there been any other thread in the long history of Care2 that has even more comments over the years than this one? If so, please point out the thread as I would like to take a look at it. This thread is not all that far away from 10,000 comments.

Of course, there is a danger that another ongoing thread with some 8270 comments is eventually going to catch up to this one, perhaps even surpassing it, so the question is, which thread will reign supreme in the number of comments? Stay tuned.

10:19AM PDT on Apr 6, 2015

long day.....

8:04AM PDT on Apr 6, 2015

Oops, my comment:

"So Douglas: You have never stated (no Veganist has) that a person can be anything like a compassionate, caring, good, decent, animal loving, evolved, etc., human. Why is that?"

Should read:

"So Douglas: You have never stated (no Veganist has) that an Omnivore can be anything like a compassionate, caring, good, decent, animal loving, evolved, etc., human. Why is that?"

5:52AM PDT on Apr 6, 2015

@ Brian: Perhaps you need to talk to your friends like Marie B.

She doesn't seem to think that over population is a problem.....

4:27AM PDT on Apr 6, 2015

So Douglas: You have never stated (no Veganist has) that a person can be anything like a compassionate, caring, good, decent, animal loving, evolved, etc., human. Why is that?

I'll tell you why. In order to keep the hate going, you must completely vilify and denigrate all that "don't act like you". Only by making "those people" so horrid and villainous could you get your hate and ire up so much.

Are you Veganists going to don sheets anytime to let us really know how hateful you are?

3:59PM PDT on Apr 5, 2015

SHHHHH....Kevin.....jello's made with the marrow from animal bones. YUMMY! :-)

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